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(The Raw Story)   Everybody in Utah hates Sen. Mike Lee now. THANKS, OBAMA   (rawstory.com) divider line 47
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2013-10-23 01:14:09 PM
"I think people admire him for sticking to his guns and principles, but I think there are growing frustrations," he said. "If things are to happen, you can't just stick to your principles. You have to make things work. You've got to be practical."

Most rational people can see the difference between principled fortitude and foolish obstinance.  Teabaggers do not.
 
2013-10-23 01:33:02 PM
The GOP civil war rages on.  The business-minded GOPers have finally pulled out the knives and I expect the TPers aren't going to know what to do now that THEY are the ones being targeted by primary challenges.
 
2013-10-23 01:34:34 PM
Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.
 
2013-10-23 01:36:18 PM
I'd be a lot more excited about this if I wasn't convinced that voter apathy and the GOP spin machine wouldn't have all this swept under the rug by November 2014.
 
2013-10-23 01:36:39 PM
It's too bad that they can't both run at the same time against a Democratic opponent instead of trying to primary each other on a Republican ticket...
 
2013-10-23 01:37:58 PM

Infernalist: The GOP civil war rages on.  The business-minded GOPers have finally pulled out the knives and I expect the TPers aren't going to know what to do now that THEY are the ones being targeted by primary challenges.


Well, while it appears the problem is somewhat self-correcting, those business-minded GOPers had a hand in creating the problem in the first place.  They funded the astroturf breeding ground from which these aberrations grew.
 
2013-10-23 01:40:53 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.


That was part of it... but this statement has a bit more impact.

President A. Scott Anderson of Utah's Zions Bank - founded by Mormonism's spiritual leader, Brigham Young - told the Post that Lee's no-compromise form of governing is bad for business.

One would think a party that governs by catchphrases, anecdotes, and bumper sticker slogans would be mindful of a concept like "don't bite the hand that feeds you."
 
2013-10-23 01:41:26 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.


That's why we need more people pushing over rocks in state parks. For the children!
 
2013-10-23 01:42:56 PM

KellyX: It's too bad that they can't both run at the same time against a Democratic opponent instead of trying to primary each other on a Republican ticket...


Maybe one will run as an "Independent" after the primary.
 
2013-10-23 01:43:57 PM
Yay we can replace him with another Republican with the last name smith, or a Democrat with the last many Young.

/Mormons, Mormons everywhere!
 
2013-10-23 01:45:19 PM
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2013-10-23 01:48:11 PM

ampoliros: KellyX: It's too bad that they can't both run at the same time against a Democratic opponent instead of trying to primary each other on a Republican ticket...

Maybe one will run as an "Independent" after the primary.


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2013-10-23 01:48:21 PM

ExcedrinHeadache: I'd be a lot more excited about this if I wasn't convinced that voter apathy and the GOP spin machine wouldn't have all this swept under the rug by November 2014.


Me too.
 
2013-10-23 01:51:18 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.


Who would have thought that the federal government does some pretty important things!
 
2013-10-23 01:54:19 PM
Wait, wait.

Being the despicable toady to a self-centered and cruel megalomaniac gets you bad reviews?

Quick, someone alert Senator Salacious B. Crumb!
 
2013-10-23 01:55:22 PM
Not everybody in Utah hates him. Lots of Mormons believe that the LDS church will be asked to pull the national government together at some future point when the "Constitution hangs by a thread" and they admire Lee and the Teabaggers for attempting to hasten that supposedly inevitable moment.

(Mind you, this belief is not official LDS doctrine; it's based from a speech Joseph Smith made. However, the belief is still talked about, and some Mormons talk about it A LOT. I'd wager that the Venn diagram of those people and Teabaggers is a perfect circle.)
 
2013-10-23 01:56:11 PM

Diogenes: "I think people admire him for sticking to his guns and principles, but I think there are growing frustrations," he said. "If things are to happen, you can't just stick to your principles. You have to make things work. You've got to be practical."

Most rational people can see the difference between principled fortitude and foolish obstinance.  Teabaggers do not.


I just wonder what sort of 'principles' involve shutting down the government and destroying the economy.
 
2013-10-23 02:02:21 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.


A lot of federal money goes into Utah also. The NSA has their "data collection" operations there, though I doubt they really got furloughed.
 
2013-10-23 02:04:14 PM

Infernalist: The GOP civil war rages on.  The business-minded GOPers have finally pulled out the knives and I expect the TPers aren't going to know what to do now that THEY are the ones being targeted by primary challenges.


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2013-10-23 02:10:47 PM
Nobody hates you, Mike. You just keep making mistakes, getting everybody in trouble.
 
2013-10-23 02:11:46 PM

Kid Lester: Nobody hates you, Mike. You just keep making mistakes, getting everybody in trouble.


So when do the towels and soap come out?
 
2013-10-23 02:12:18 PM
Interesting. The good people of Utah might send Lee packing over a legitimate grievance, but I bet Kwame Kilpatrick will be re-elected when he gets out of prison.

It's a cultural difference.
 
2013-10-23 02:15:06 PM
So he'll beat his democrat challenger by 12 points instead of the usual 15.
 
2013-10-23 02:16:35 PM
"NOW"?
 
2013-10-23 02:16:43 PM

ExcedrinHeadache: I'd be a lot more excited about this if I wasn't convinced that voter apathy and the GOP spin machine wouldn't have all this swept under the rug by November 2014.


No worries, with the ways the continuing resolution is set up, Cruz will be back at least a couple more times between now and then to remind everyone.
 
2013-10-23 02:22:01 PM
From Raw Story: "According to Talking Points Memo, both the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal carried stories on Wednesday reporting that..."

So it's an article about another article, which is itself about two other actual original articles.  Jesus H, is this the modern press?
 
2013-10-23 02:30:51 PM
Headline: Everybody in Utah hates Sen. Mike Lee now.

utahdatapoints.com

/seems somebody still likes him
//Don't Know Tea Party has a nice ring to it
 
2013-10-23 02:33:24 PM

mercator_psi: Not everybody in Utah hates him. Lots of Mormons believe that the LDS church will be asked to pull the national government together at some future point when the "Constitution hangs by a thread" and they admire Lee and the Teabaggers for attempting to hasten that supposedly inevitable moment.

(Mind you, this belief is not official LDS doctrine; it's based from a speech Joseph Smith made. However, the belief is still talked about, and some Mormons talk about it A LOT. I'd wager that the Venn diagram of those people and Teabaggers is a perfect circle.)


Yeah, they're like the Rapture nuts.

Boy, it must have really burned them up when they learned Rafalca came closer to being the White Horse than old Mitt.
 
2013-10-23 02:34:43 PM
Plenty of us here hated him long before this.
 
2013-10-23 02:36:08 PM

timujin: ExcedrinHeadache: I'd be a lot more excited about this if I wasn't convinced that voter apathy and the GOP spin machine wouldn't have all this swept under the rug by November 2014.

No worries, with the ways the continuing resolution is set up, Cruz will be back at least a couple more times between now and then to remind everyone.


Ted Cruz never met a microphone he didn't like.
 
2013-10-23 02:50:33 PM
I'm disappointed by the lack of Thanks Obama gifs in this thread
 
2013-10-23 02:52:28 PM

Diogenes: mercator_psi: Not everybody in Utah hates him. Lots of Mormons believe that the LDS church will be asked to pull the national government together at some future point when the "Constitution hangs by a thread" and they admire Lee and the Teabaggers for attempting to hasten that supposedly inevitable moment.

(Mind you, this belief is not official LDS doctrine; it's based from a speech Joseph Smith made. However, the belief is still talked about, and some Mormons talk about it A LOT. I'd wager that the Venn diagram of those people and Teabaggers is a perfect circle.)

Yeah, they're like the Rapture nuts.

Boy, it must have really burned them up when they learned Rafalca came closer to being the White Horse than old Mitt.


Well, it had better ideas than he did.
 
2013-10-23 02:53:21 PM
NEXT:  Utah U.S. Senator Lee changes his first name from "Mike" to "Miko" to see if it helps to raise his approval ratings.
 
2013-10-23 03:03:46 PM

Diogenes: Most rational people can see the difference between principled fortitude and foolish obstinance.   Teabaggers do not.


I think I see the problem...
 
2013-10-23 03:22:35 PM
The best part is, he got elected in the primaries by PAC money, and a few people voting for him instead of the incumbent Bennett.

Now what will Doug Wright talk about next?

/it's a Utah thing.
 
2013-10-23 03:38:16 PM

balthan: Diogenes: Most rational people can see the difference between principled fortitude and foolish obstinance.   Teabaggers do not.

I think I see the problem...


I know you're terribly distressed by the notion that failure has consequences.

You should try getting over that.
 
2013-10-23 03:41:07 PM
Seriously. Fark Mike Lee in the arse with the spikiest object you can find, and I will not only applaud, I may well pay to see it.
 
2013-10-23 03:44:15 PM
I heard this bastard lying ratbag on KSL radio this morning here in Salt Lake claiming "I didn't want to shut down the government"......
 
2013-10-23 03:51:31 PM

Diogenes: mercator_psi: Not everybody in Utah hates him. Lots of Mormons believe that the LDS church will be asked to pull the national government together at some future point when the "Constitution hangs by a thread" and they admire Lee and the Teabaggers for attempting to hasten that supposedly inevitable moment.

(Mind you, this belief is not official LDS doctrine; it's based from a speech Joseph Smith made. However, the belief is still talked about, and some Mormons talk about it A LOT. I'd wager that the Venn diagram of those people and Teabaggers is a perfect circle.)

Yeah, they're like the Rapture nuts.

Boy, it must have really burned them up when they learned Rafalca came closer to being the White Horse than old Mitt.


I swear, every time I hear about the whole White Horse thing, I think of the Columbians from Bioshock Infinite.
 
2013-10-23 04:08:27 PM
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2013-10-23 04:21:13 PM

monoski: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Wow, it's almost as if a state that heavily depends on national parks for its economy won't be very happy with you when you decide to just shut them down on a whim.

A lot of federal money goes into Utah also. The NSA has their "data collection" operations there, though I doubt they really got furloughed.


My sister is a defense contractor @ Hill AFB.  She had to burn her vacation time during the shutdown, thus not coming home for Thanksgiving.  She's now one pissed off Republican and says that there are many just like her.  Her Rep voted against the final bill despite the biggest employer in his district is.... Hill AFB.
 
2013-10-23 04:29:37 PM

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2013-10-23 04:39:26 PM

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2013-10-23 06:11:05 PM
No seriously, thanks Obama!
 
2013-10-23 06:22:51 PM
To be fair, many of us hated him well before that.
 
2013-10-23 11:51:11 PM

Diogenes: "I think people admire him for sticking to his guns and principles, but I think there are growing frustrations," he said. "If things are to happen, you can't just stick to your principles. You have to make things work. You've got to be practical."

Most rational people can see the difference between principled fortitude and foolish obstinance.  Teabaggers do not.


There's a difference between "sticking to your principles" and being an inflexible ideologue.
 
2013-10-24 12:10:15 PM

mercator_psi: Not everybody in Utah hates him. Lots of Mormons believe that the LDS church will be asked to pull the national government together at some future point when the "Constitution hangs by a thread" and they admire Lee and the Teabaggers for attempting to hasten that supposedly inevitable moment.

(Mind you, this belief is not official LDS doctrine; it's based from a speech Joseph Smith made. However, the belief is still talked about, and some Mormons talk about it A LOT. I'd wager that the Venn diagram of those people and Teabaggers is a perfect circle.)


Maybe a near perfect circle, but there are definitely some outliers.  My cousin is a Mormon and lives in NYC; she hates Lee, and Romney.
 
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