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(SeattlePI)   You can snicker all you want about medical marijuana, but you won't be laughing when you catch cancer and need some weed to cure it   (blog.seattlepi.com) divider line 106
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2013-10-23 09:12:59 AM  
Legalize it, you farktards.
 
2013-10-23 09:17:22 AM  
I don't normally wish pain and suffering on people, but I'm very willing to make an exception for all the idiots who have maintained for years that weed is the worst thing in this entire world and has absolutely no redeeming values.  Yes, DEA and Congress, I'm looking at you.
 
2013-10-23 09:18:01 AM  
Keep it illegal.  Makes it easier to get and cheaper.
 
2013-10-23 09:19:43 AM  
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2013-10-23 09:19:51 AM  
FTA:  So, smoke it up to cure cancer?
"That's one thing I've been trying to fight against for quite a few years now," Liu said.
The bottom line here, he says, is that when all of the chemicals are burned or eaten at once - the usual way cannabis is used medicinally and recreationally - the positive, cancer-fighting effects could be lost in the mix.


That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.

vudukungfu: Legalize it, you farktards.


Totally agree. There's zero valid reason to keep weed illegal. None. Not a shred of fact.
 
2013-10-23 09:20:06 AM  

cherryl taggart: I don't normally wish pain and suffering on people, but I'm very willing to make an exception for all the idiots who have maintained for years that weed is the worst thing in this entire world and has absolutely no redeeming values.  Yes, DEA and Congress, I'm looking at you.


and any other puritanical farkwad

/let people do what they want to do, so long as it doesn't hurt, steal, and/or damage another person's property
//note how I didn't add "offend anyone"
///I'm easily offended by those who are easily offended
 
2013-10-23 09:20:24 AM  
In my day, we didn't have medical marijuanie, gay marriage or women sporting Brazilians. Just an onion on a $300 Ferragamo belt from Barneys, with $10 off for the blood stains from the beatdown of the previous owner.


www.pudreteflanders.com
 
2013-10-23 09:22:51 AM  
Ugh, this sounds like another one of those studies where something is put in a petri dish/solution outside of the human body and found to kill cancer cells.  Yes, so add some cannabus compounds to the many thousands of of other compounds that work on killing cells outside the human body.  Science people!
 
2013-10-23 09:26:19 AM  
I am all for the legalization of pot. However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.
 
2013-10-23 09:28:20 AM  
Legalize it.

However, this kind of stuff is unmitigated bullshiat.
 
2013-10-23 09:28:43 AM  

FlippityFlap: I am all for the legalization of pot. However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.


Cures lack of desire to eat. Least for me.
 
2013-10-23 09:32:16 AM  
Given what has happened to me in the last 48 hours, I could use some legal weed.
 
2013-10-23 09:32:25 AM  
But legalizing it reduces paranoia, making it less likely people will check themselves for cancer.

Study it out, people. Pray on it.
 
2013-10-23 09:33:04 AM  

andersoncouncil42: However, this kind of stuff is unmitigated bullshiat.


Like man made global warming, and evolution?
 
2013-10-23 09:33:21 AM  
Wake and bake
 
2013-10-23 09:34:07 AM  
My friend is dying from cancer. Weed isn't helping other than it gets him to eat and eases the pain of chemo a little.
 
2013-10-23 09:36:03 AM  

rooftop235: My friend is dying from cancer. Weed isn't helping other than it gets him to eat and eases the pain of chemo a little.


So it isn't helping other than the ways it is helping.
 
2013-10-23 09:36:13 AM  
Using cannabis makes more sense then using drugs that's side effects are worse than the actual ailment the drug was prescribed for, in my opinion.
 
2013-10-23 09:36:48 AM  
It already is legal. I live in the throwback state of AZ, and if I pay enough $$$, I can get at the store right down the street.
 AZ, people.
 
2013-10-23 09:40:18 AM  

unchellmatt: FTA:  So, smoke it up to cure cancer?
"That's one thing I've been trying to fight against for quite a few years now," Liu said.
The bottom line here, he says, is that when all of the chemicals are burned or eaten at once - the usual way cannabis is used medicinally and recreationally - the positive, cancer-fighting effects could be lost in the mix.

That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.


Nice, selective post.

Also FTFA:

"I'm not saying that cannabis itself, as the whole plant, won't work. We just don't know."
 
2013-10-23 09:43:16 AM  
i.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-10-23 09:46:39 AM  

unchellmatt: That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.


I have lost count of how many things have been claimed to "cure cancer" in mice or in a petri dish and haven't worked in humans.  Nothing to see here.
 
2013-10-23 09:49:13 AM  
Weed cures cancer now?
 
2013-10-23 09:50:01 AM  
It would be intresting to see if they put legalize canbis on the presidential vote ballot coming up.
I bet we would get record amount of voters.
 
2013-10-23 09:54:43 AM  
He said the anticancer activity of THC has been "known for sometime ..."

This guy is a farking liar. Pot is a scheduled narcotic with NO LEGITIMATE MEDICAL USE. The government told us so. Who are you going to believe some commie chinaman or good old uncle sam.
 
2013-10-23 10:02:13 AM  

Nhojwolfe: It would be intresting to see if they put legalize canbis on the presidential vote ballot coming up.
I bet we would get record amount of voters.

And a whole bunch of write in candidates whose names seem suspiciously like drive thru orders and requests for cheetos.
 
2013-10-23 10:02:17 AM  
The medical marijuana people sound a lot like homeopaths.

That being said I don't care if you smoke weed as long as I don't have to smell it.
 
2013-10-23 10:04:10 AM  

hardinparamedic: Given what has happened to me in the last 48 hours, I could use some legal weed.


Considering your login and your usual personality on this site, I assume you've been through some seriously crazy shiat. Threadjack: but you cool? Destressing? Or still totally stressed out?
 
2013-10-23 10:06:06 AM  

flondrix: unchellmatt: That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.

I have lost count of how many things have been claimed to "cure cancer" in mice or in a petri dish and haven't worked in humans.  Nothing to see here.


I remember trying to database a fully-complete, all-encompassing herbal. What I learned was that pretty much any food-like item we put in our bodies is simultaneously cancer-causing and cancer-defeating. Yay, omnivores?
 
2013-10-23 10:10:18 AM  
I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.
 
2013-10-23 10:10:23 AM  

vudukungfu: Legalize it, you farktards.


We did, along with CO.
 
2013-10-23 10:12:20 AM  

Ker_Thwap: turn to crime


was the "crime" they turned to smoking/buying weed?
 
2013-10-23 10:15:40 AM  

Aidan: Considering your login and your usual personality on this site, I assume you've been through some seriously crazy shiat. Threadjack: but you cool? Destressing? Or still totally stressed out?


I lost three of my friends and coworkers yesterday.

/end threadjack.
 
2013-10-23 10:16:06 AM  
You can snicker all you want about medical marijuana, but you won't be laughing when you catch cancer and need some weed to cure it

The HELL I won't If a doctor tells me I must smoke weed to cure my cancer I am gonna laugh my ass off.
 
2013-10-23 10:16:33 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: The medical marijuana people sound a lot like homeopaths.

That being said I don't care if you smoke weed as long as I don't have to smell it.


I don't care if you post dumb things online as long as I don't have to read it.
 
2013-10-23 10:17:21 AM  
From the article:

blog.seattlepi.com



1-media-cdn.foolz.us

 
2013-10-23 10:18:09 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.


It was that demon weed that turned them into lazy shiatty people.
 
2013-10-23 10:18:51 AM  

Headso: Ker_Thwap: turn to crime

was the "crime" they turned to smoking/buying weed?


If only.  Was more along the lines of being unable to function at their low paying jobs, getting fired, and turning to burglary to pay for their next bag.  Mind you this was in the days of $20 bags.
 
2013-10-23 10:19:08 AM  

hardinparamedic: Aidan: Considering your login and your usual personality on this site, I assume you've been through some seriously crazy shiat. Threadjack: but you cool? Destressing? Or still totally stressed out?

I lost three of my friends and coworkers yesterday.

/end threadjack.


Very sorry to hear that.
 
2013-10-23 10:23:10 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Ugh, this sounds like another one of those studies where something is put in a petri dish/solution outside of the human body and found to kill cancer cells.  Yes, so add some cannabus compounds to the many thousands of of other compounds that work on killing cells outside the human body.  Science people!



Sort of like how that loser Alexander Flemming who noticed that Penicillium rubens released a substance with antibiotic properties.

Of course, as we all know, his test was in a dish/solution outside of the human body and that is why penicillin never really worked out.

Real science!
 
2013-10-23 10:24:07 AM  

unchellmatt: That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.


But I have been doing this experiment for decades and am 100% cancer free!

Yeah, how does the cold slap of science feel!?!?!


/I keed
 
2013-10-23 10:24:31 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.


Lol'd
 
2013-10-23 10:24:52 AM  

duffblue: Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.

It was that demon weed that turned them into lazy shiatty people.


Eh, I think I covered that with my not everyone has the support system proviso.  These weren't necessarily college bound kids to start with.  From my own experience, I can certainly say that smoking made me lazy and not care.

Anyway, I'm off to go be productive, carry on without me.
 
2013-10-23 10:25:04 AM  

FlippityFlap: I am all for the legalization of pot. However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.


besides chronic pain, stress, sleeplessness, and the nausea and weight loss caused by many illnesses and chemotherapy you mean?
 
2013-10-23 10:26:13 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: The medical marijuana people sound a lot like homeopaths.

That being said I don't care if you smoke weed as long as I don't have to smell it.


I just got my Michigan card for a form of spinal arthritis. The anti-inflammatory effect of marijuana actually helps prevent my vertebrae from fusing together. Humera can do the same, but Humera's side effects are pretty scary.
 
2013-10-23 10:27:57 AM  

Ker_Thwap: duffblue: Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.

It was that demon weed that turned them into lazy shiatty people.

Eh, I think I covered that with my not everyone has the support system proviso.  These weren't necessarily college bound kids to start with.  From my own experience, I can certainly say that smoking made me lazy and not care.

Anyway, I'm off to go be productive, carry on without me.


Maybe, this isn't such a bad thing after all. Maybe, the world needs less assholes that measure their life in increments of "productivity."
 
2013-10-23 10:28:18 AM  

SpectroBoy: unchellmatt: That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.

But I have been doing this experiment for decades and am 100% cancer free!

Yeah, how does the cold slap of science feel!?!?!


/I keed


It feels, like... Mellow, man, like if we could you know get along and the lines on my hand! They're soooo cool. I could totally go for some Pringles. Wait, what? Oh wow.
 
2013-10-23 10:29:23 AM  
Being that I'm allergic to THC, no.

/ I have to watch out for heather as well. ( not women named Heather)
 
2013-10-23 10:33:10 AM  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Ker_Thwap: duffblue: Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.

It was that demon weed that turned them into lazy shiatty people.

Eh, I think I covered that with my not everyone has the support system proviso.  These weren't necessarily college bound kids to start with.  From my own experience, I can certainly say that smoking made me lazy and not care.

Anyway, I'm off to go be productive, carry on without me.

Maybe, this isn't such a bad thing after all. Maybe, the world needs less assholes that measure their life in increments of "productivity."


I'm old and retired.  The productivity in this case is going to change a ceiling light bulb for an elderly lady.  You know, volunteer work.  But you just stick to your preconceived notions.
 
2013-10-23 10:36:50 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Headso: Ker_Thwap: turn to crime

was the "crime" they turned to smoking/buying weed?

If only.  Was more along the lines of being unable to function at their low paying jobs, getting fired, and turning to burglary to pay for their next bag.  Mind you this was in the days of $20 bags.


lol
 
2013-10-23 10:37:09 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Being that I'm allergic to THC, no.

/ I have to watch out for heather as well. ( not women named Heather)


Damn that sucks.

/try Wild Dagga (Leonotus leonurus) or Kratom instead
 
2013-10-23 10:38:23 AM  
"catch cancer," huh?
 
2013-10-23 10:39:18 AM  

germ78: Evil Mackerel: Being that I'm allergic to THC, no.

/ I have to watch out for heather as well. ( not women named Heather)

Damn that sucks.

/try Wild Dagga (Leonotus leonurus) or Kratom instead


I don't smoke at all so it's not a big deal.

/Beer is friend.
 
2013-10-23 10:46:46 AM  
This is good news for Bob Marley.
 
2013-10-23 10:46:55 AM  

boredomatwork: Keep it illegal.  Makes it easier to get and cheaper.


I'm with you in spirit but the fact is there's weed, and there's weed. Then there's weed, weed, weed, weed, and weed. I like being able to shop by strain. The bag of the month plan from 'your guy' just doesn't cut it for me anymore. Some of them have virtually zero thc - less than 1%. Some of them have over 20%. Some of them make put me to sleep and others make sleep nigh impossible. Some of them stick and some smell better than roses. Fact is weed is damn near diverse as spirits. We'll look back on this time as the dark ages. Not unlike sending someone to the liquor store every week and just taking what they give you be it wine coolers, schlitz, or a bottle of everclear.
 
2013-10-23 10:51:39 AM  

Evil Mackerel: germ78: Evil Mackerel: Being that I'm allergic to THC, no.

/ I have to watch out for heather as well. ( not women named Heather)

Damn that sucks.

/try Wild Dagga (Leonotus leonurus) or Kratom instead

I don't smoke at all so it's not a big deal.

/Beer is friend.


in that case, then drink on!
 
2013-10-23 11:04:21 AM  

hardinparamedic: Aidan: Considering your login and your usual personality on this site, I assume you've been through some seriously crazy shiat. Threadjack: but you cool? Destressing? Or still totally stressed out?

I lost three of my friends and coworkers yesterday.

/end threadjack.


I'd like to offer my condolences. It's tragic when people die, but it's doubly so when good people die flying medical transports for a children's hospital.
 
2013-10-23 11:06:31 AM  
For anyone actually interested in a scientific review/opinion article on the research into cancer-related clinical uses of cannabis, here is a 2012 article from a prominent researcher in the field: http://www.bbm1.ucm.es/cannabis/archivos/publicaciones/_vti_cnf/Velas c o%20NRC%202012%20advance%20online.pdf
 
2013-10-23 11:08:45 AM  

SpectroBoy: FlippityFlap: I am all for the legalization of pot. However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.

besides chronic pain, stress, sleeplessness, and the nausea and weight loss caused by many illnesses and chemotherapy you mean?



Apart from all those things, what has weed ever done for us?

2.bp.blogspot.com

/brought peace?
 
2013-10-23 11:13:26 AM  
Smoking -anything- is a bad idea.

Skin patch medication ftw - no need to involve respiration or digestive systems
 
2013-10-23 11:15:29 AM  
I don't even smoke anymore, but that picture made my mouth water.
 
2013-10-23 11:21:01 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Headso: Ker_Thwap: turn to crime

was the "crime" they turned to smoking/buying weed?

If only.  Was more along the lines of being unable to function at their low paying jobs, getting fired, and turning to burglary to pay for their next bag.  Mind you this was in the days of $20 bags.



Sucking dick and burglarizing poor old ladies for their next hit of sweet Mary Jane. Sounds legit.

Perhaps you're misattributing their failures as being caused by weed, rather than weed abuse being one of several symptoms of them having already been failures in life.
 
2013-10-23 11:36:03 AM  

Pangea: Ker_Thwap: Headso: Ker_Thwap: turn to crime

was the "crime" they turned to smoking/buying weed?

If only.  Was more along the lines of being unable to function at their low paying jobs, getting fired, and turning to burglary to pay for their next bag.  Mind you this was in the days of $20 bags.


Sucking dick and burglarizing poor old ladies for their next hit of sweet Mary Jane. Sounds legit.

Perhaps you're misattributing their failures as being caused by weed, rather than weed abuse being one of several symptoms of them having already been failures in life.


Knows a thing or 2 about sucking dick for certain drugs:
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-23 11:50:12 AM  

hardinparamedic: Aidan: Considering your login and your usual personality on this site, I assume you've been through some seriously crazy shiat. Threadjack: but you cool? Destressing? Or still totally stressed out?

I lost three of my friends and coworkers yesterday.

/end threadjack.


Damn. That's horrible...

Well. Uh. How about that MJ, eh? Wow.
 
2013-10-23 12:11:11 PM  
Marijuana has shown to have a  great effect for severe Tourette's  syndrome, seizures, chronic pain and  cannabinoids are normally in your body anyway. What we probably created in this country is a vitamin deficiency through forced deprivation.

But, in the states were it's still a felony, it's lowering unemployment by keeping the privatized prisons filled. We got that going for us.
 
2013-10-23 12:21:06 PM  
Another big step towards retail here last night, town voted to allow two retail stores, and now all we have to do is win the stupid referendum vote on Nov. 5th.  Looking good so far.

I'm not sure when I last looked forward to January 1 with such eagerness - I'm planning to be among the first that day.

Variety, the spice of life.
 
2013-10-23 12:31:55 PM  
 
2013-10-23 12:33:59 PM  

clovercat: Marijuana has shown to have a  great effect for severe Tourette's  syndrome, seizures, chronic pain and  cannabinoids are normally in your body anyway. What we probably created in this country is a vitamin deficiency through forced deprivation.

But, in the states were it's still a felony, it's lowering unemployment by keeping the privatized prisons filled. We got that going for us.


My fiance is an epileptic. They've gave him tramadol once which he took for a week but then went into a seizure that lasted for 45 minutes and damn near killed him. He took a 5mg hydrocodone once for his back,puked all night,went to his doctors appointment the next morning. I get a call from them telling me he had to be taken to the hospital by an ambulance for a seizure. He goes into status epilepticus at the hospital,they have to give him a loading dose of dilantin and 4 huge shots of ativan. He cannot take pain pills so he is in constant pain from cervical spinal stenosis,degenerative disk disease AND then the icing on the shiatcake is that his eyes hurt too from glaucoma. The only thing that helps and doesn't land him in the ER is pot. It also helps prevent him from having myoclonic seizures,his meds don't stop those at all. Hell he can't even take something like neurontin cause they make him have really bad myoclonic seizures. Now if only the state of Ky would pull it's head out of it's ass and pass a bill for medical marijuana,pfft like that'll ever happen.
 
2013-10-23 12:42:50 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Eh, I think I covered that with my not everyone has the support system proviso. These weren't necessarily college bound kids to start with. From my own experience, I can certainly say that smoking made me lazy and not care.


I have heard advocates of medical marijuana affirm that pot makes you lazy and stupid (though they used more positive synonyms than that).
 
2013-10-23 12:43:50 PM  

s2s2s2: But legalizing it reduces paranoia, making it less likely people will check themselves for cancer.

Study it out, people. Pray on it.


Just make sure not to bogart on Shiva, he gets cranky when you do that.
 
2013-10-23 12:47:16 PM  

A Terrible Human: The only thing that helps and doesn't land him in the ER is pot. It also helps prevent him from having myoclonic seizures,his meds don't stop those at all. Hell he can't even take something like neurontin cause they make him have really bad myoclonic seizures. Now if only the state of Ky would pull it's head out of it's ass and pass a bill for medical marijuana,pfft like that'll ever happen.


With symptoms as severe as the ones you listed, perhaps it would be worthwhile for both of you to move to a state that has legalized medical marijuana.  You would not be the first couple who had to pull up roots for medical reasons.
 
2013-10-23 12:51:34 PM  

flondrix: Ker_Thwap: Eh, I think I covered that with my not everyone has the support system proviso. These weren't necessarily college bound kids to start with. From my own experience, I can certainly say that smoking made me lazy and not care.

I have heard advocates of medical marijuana affirm that pot makes you lazy and stupid (though they used more positive synonyms than that).


I should have prefaced that with the disclaimer that of course some patients would be even less functional without it, which is supposed to be the whole point of medical marijuana.
 
2013-10-23 12:53:13 PM  

s2s2s2: But legalizing it reduces paranoia, making it less likely people will check themselves for cancer.


Pot induces paranoia in some people.
 
2013-10-23 01:03:46 PM  

vudukungfu: Legalize it for the patients that NEED it, you farktards.


Fixed that for you, pothead.
 
2013-10-23 01:09:33 PM  

metal_gear: vudukungfu: Legalize it for the patients that NEED it, you farktards.

Fixed that for you, pothead.


You tell him gramma. Up with the temperence and prohibition.
 
2013-10-23 01:17:41 PM  
Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.
 
2013-10-23 01:19:52 PM  

metal_gear: vudukungfu: Legalize it for the patients that NEED it, you farktards, and summary executions for anyone else if they dare to use it.


If you're going to be an idiot, go full idiot.
 
2013-10-23 01:49:09 PM  

boredomatwork: Keep it illegal.  Makes it easier to get and cheaper.


Dunno where you're smoking, but the primo shiat in the state I pot touristed was less than half for what I pay for the same stuff in blowhio.
 
2013-10-23 02:01:20 PM  

unchellmatt: FTA:  So, smoke it up to cure cancer?
"That's one thing I've been trying to fight against for quite a few years now," Liu said.
The bottom line here, he says, is that when all of the chemicals are burned or eaten at once - the usual way cannabis is used medicinally and recreationally - the positive, cancer-fighting effects could be lost in the mix.

That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.

vudukungfu: Legalize it, you farktards.

Totally agree. There's zero valid reason to keep weed illegal. None. Not a shred of fact.


So what?
First you have to get your elected "officials" off of the money train.
Then you face telling(much less convincing) the population that they have been most seriously and completely, with extreme prejudice, lied to for their entire lifetimes.

Walk in the park.
 
2013-10-23 02:02:50 PM  

KellyX: Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.


Ya know, a good appetite might just get you to eat healthy food?
Who knows?
 
2013-10-23 02:15:19 PM  

snocone: KellyX: Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.

Ya know, a good appetite might just get you to eat healthy food?
Who knows?


No shiat. Been on a steady downward weight trend in the ~5 years since I started using the mj. 2 pants sizes last year.
 
2013-10-23 02:41:25 PM  
Someone else already said it, but I'll say it again; As long as you're not directly affecting anyone else (or have consent), why should there be any limits to what you're allowed to do?  Pot, liquor, gay sex, worship gods of your choice, hell, in the US, even dancing and singing in private homes has been restricted for no valid purpose at various times in our country's history.

Frankly, I say legalize it all.  Not just pot, everything.  Meth, steroids, cocaine, shrooms, whatever.  If consumers can't balance their addictions with their family or work, why should that be of any concern to a government or society?  These folks will either manage it, or not, and the ones that don't will remove themselves from society fairly quickly.  For what appears to be the majority - everyone else - it'll be exactly the same as now, except you don't have to hide it.  It'll be pretty much business as usual.

Now, that's not to say I'm against drug testing.  I think that's the employers/schools/professional sports team or organization/etc's right too.  If the terms of the contract stipulate no drugs, and you make the choice to renege, then you should lose your job or not be hired in the first place.  Besides, if you can't stop doing drugs for the 30 days or so it takes to get completely clean (on the outside), it's clear your priorities make you more well suited to a job in the ... shall we say, food service industries.
 
2013-10-23 02:51:55 PM  

neongoats: boredomatwork: Keep it illegal.  Makes it easier to get and cheaper.

Dunno where you're smoking, but the primo shiat in the state I pot touristed was less than half for what I pay for the same stuff in blowhio.


I'm in CO - last sack I got (a few days ago) I paid $200/oz.  Could get it cheaper but I'm a lazy stoner.
 
2013-10-23 02:58:07 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I still think smoking weed drinking alcohol is a bad idea.  Did it myself as a youth, watched all too many friends lose ambition, turn to crime, and otherwise ruin/end their lives because of it.  Of course I can say much the same about booze  smoking weed.  Not everyone has the support system/personal strength to handle it responsibly.


FTFY
 
2013-10-23 03:15:43 PM  

flondrix: A Terrible Human: The only thing that helps and doesn't land him in the ER is pot. It also helps prevent him from having myoclonic seizures,his meds don't stop those at all. Hell he can't even take something like neurontin cause they make him have really bad myoclonic seizures. Now if only the state of Ky would pull it's head out of it's ass and pass a bill for medical marijuana,pfft like that'll ever happen.

With symptoms as severe as the ones you listed, perhaps it would be worthwhile for both of you to move to a state that has legalized medical marijuana.  You would not be the first couple who had to pull up roots for medical reasons.


That would be awesome but it's not doable. There's no money to move even from this farking dump of an apartment,all of his family is in this state with most of them living in this town. His primary care doc,which is a neurologist,doesn't give a fark if he smokes pot though and he doesn't get any meds which require a monthly piss test to keep which is great.
 
2013-10-23 03:25:32 PM  
Actually, using cannabis reduces blood flow to capillaries and so it actually does prevent and 'cure' some cancer.  /tmyk
 
2013-10-23 03:44:53 PM  

unchellmatt: FTA:  So, smoke it up to cure cancer?
"That's one thing I've been trying to fight against for quite a few years now," Liu said.
The bottom line here, he says, is that when all of the chemicals are burned or eaten at once - the usual way cannabis is used medicinally and recreationally - the positive, cancer-fighting effects could be lost in the mix.

That's the part many people seem to ignore. Smoking weed does not and WILL not "cure" cancer, nor will mixing it into brownies, making an extract and putting it into your vape, or any other foolish claims.



What part of the word "could" don't you understand? The researcher was simply stating that the results he saw don't necessarily translate to other methods of administration.

Research to prove or disprove the effectiveness of smoked or eaten whole cannabis is much more difficult, with more hoops to jump through due to its (ridiculous) Schedule I status.
 
2013-10-23 03:55:50 PM  

Nhojwolfe: It would be intresting to see if they put legalize canbis on the presidential vote ballot coming up.
I bet we would get record amount of voters.


Yeah, but they'd show up a day late.
 
2013-10-23 03:59:53 PM  

KellyX: Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.


Have you seen the new Jack In The Box commercials?  I think it's called "the munchies" or something.
Little Jack and his buddy are totally stoners!
 
2013-10-23 04:44:06 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Ugh, this sounds like another one of those studies where something is put in a petri dish/solution outside of the human body and found to kill cancer cells.  Yes, so add some cannabus compounds to the many thousands of of other compounds that work on killing cells outside the human body.  Science people!


No, I have a friend that was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer that has spread to bowels, liver, pancreas, spine and ribs. He was given a couple of months to live. He has been eating 1 gram of cannabis oil per day for 5 weeks now. Last scan shows no cancer in bones and 50% reduction of all other tumors. So yeah, this stuff works.
 
2013-10-23 04:45:53 PM  

rooftop235: My friend is dying from cancer. Weed isn't helping other than it gets him to eat and eases the pain of chemo a little.


1 gram of cannabis oil per day. Yes it will knock you out for the first 2-3 weeks but it does work where chemo fails.
 
2013-10-23 05:00:13 PM  

SpectroBoy: FlippityFlap: I am all for the legalization of pot. However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.

besides chronic pain, stress, sleeplessness, and the nausea and weight loss caused by many illnesses and chemotherapy you mean?


Technically it CURES none of those. If it did, the problems wouldn't come back.
 
2013-10-23 05:04:44 PM  

neongoats: snocone: KellyX: Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.

Ya know, a good appetite might just get you to eat healthy food?
Who knows?

No shiat. Been on a steady downward weight trend in the ~5 years since I started using the mj. 2 pants sizes last year.


Probably has a lot to do with how weed heads metabolize sugars/carbohydrates differently/better. For such an evil drug it's pretty nice to us.
 
2013-10-23 05:18:04 PM  

ReverendJynxed: neongoats: snocone: KellyX: Fastfood should throw its weight behind legalization... and lobbying dollars.

Ya know, a good appetite might just get you to eat healthy food?
Who knows?

No shiat. Been on a steady downward weight trend in the ~5 years since I started using the mj. 2 pants sizes last year.

Probably has a lot to do with how weed heads metabolize sugars/carbohydrates differently/better. For such an evil drug it's pretty nice to us.


Has been nice to humans for recorded history.
Until Hearst, Anslinger and Nixon.
 
2013-10-23 05:41:36 PM  

metal_gear: vudukungfu: Legalize it for the patients that NEED it, you farktards.



I agree.  Balancing the symptoms it treats with the side effects, you'd have an over the counter medication with a warning not to drive or use heavy machinery after taking it.  I'm OK with that.
 
2013-10-23 06:07:39 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: clovercat: Marijuana has shown to have a  great effect for severe Tourette's  syndrome, seizures, chronic pain and  cannabinoids are normally in your body anyway. What we probably created in this country is a vitamin deficiency through forced deprivation.

But, in the states were it's still a felony, it's lowering unemployment by keeping the privatized prisons filled. We got that going for us.

it's a felony in all states.... thanks DEA.


Blame Congress and Nixon.
Clever back handed crap sold this issue, opposite of what the Federal Funded study that was supposed to decide it at the time recommended.

Definitely Nixon and Congress.
 
2013-10-23 06:54:26 PM  
Did I miss something?  Subby says weed cures cancer.  I've never heard this before now.
 
2013-10-23 07:12:27 PM  

quietwalker: Someone else already said it, but I'll say it again; As long as you're not directly affecting anyone else (or have consent), why should there be any limits to what you're allowed to do?  Pot, liquor, gay sex, worship gods of your choice, hell, in the US, even dancing and singing in private homes has been restricted for no valid purpose at various times in our country's history.

Frankly, I say legalize it all.  Not just pot, everything.  Meth, steroids, cocaine, shrooms, whatever.  If consumers can't balance their addictions with their family or work, why should that be of any concern to a government or society?  These folks will either manage it, or not, and the ones that don't will remove themselves from society fairly quickly.  For what appears to be the majority - everyone else - it'll be exactly the same as now, except you don't have to hide it.  It'll be pretty much business as usual.

Now, that's not to say I'm against drug testing.  I think that's the employers/schools/professional sports team or organization/etc's right too. If the terms of the contract stipulate no drugs, and you make the choice to renege, then you should lose your job or not be hired in the first place.  Besides, if you can't stop doing drugs for the 30 days or so it takes to get completely clean (on the outside), it's clear your priorities make you more well suited to a job in the ... shall we say, food service industries.


I was with you on full legalization, but we part ways when it comes to testing. For one, as you point out, it takes 30 days for weed, but just a day or two for meth. But primarily, I just don't think my off-shift behavior is any of my employers' business. If I'm not doing good work, I don't see why the reason matters. If I'm too high to function, yes, I should be fired.

This is also why I won't buy Scott's lawn products. I think adults should be free to consume tobacco even though it is bad for them. Scott's disagrees.
 
2013-10-23 09:30:12 PM  

hsburns30: Did I miss something?  Subby says weed cures cancer.  I've never heard this before now.


Highly purified and targeted cannabinoids can kill tumor cells in vitro. Smoking weed doesn't cure cancer, it treats the side effects commonly associated with solid tumors and chemotherapy.
 
2013-10-23 10:14:46 PM  
 
2013-10-23 11:38:17 PM  

DominaNY: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 495x720]

http://www.pinterest.com/beefree11/cannabis-marijuana-hash-oil-heali ng -cancer-tumors/


[CItation Needed - Recommended by WHO?]

[Citation Needed - Evidence of Cure?]

/research in cannabnoid compounds is not banned contrary to popular belief, and has been going on for decades.
//Cite a research study that anything other than highly purified and concentrated cannabinoids are being used and they are being used in vivo, not in vitro, that demonstrates effectiveness.
///Demanding evidence for a curative claim is not anti-marijuana. It's anti-fraud.

In otherwords, the cannabis cure for cancer is likely to look like this:

images.wisegeek.com
Not like this:

forum.sensiseeds.com
 
2013-10-23 11:59:56 PM  

rooftop235: My friend is dying from cancer. Weed isn't helping other than it gets him to eat and eases the pain of chemo a little.


Sounds like "helping" to me.  Restoring his appetite will improve his overall health, and even mainstream medicine in the most straightlaced states recognizes the validity of using drugs to manage long-term, chronic pain--just not that particular drug.
 
2013-10-24 01:02:24 AM  

DominaNY: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 495x720]

http://www.pinterest.com/beefree11/cannabis-marijuana-hash-oil-heali ng -cancer-tumors/


While I am 100% for legal medical MJ, I am also 100% against the vague, unsubstantiated claim of your graphic.

1. it claims a 60 gram supply and that each tube is 10 gram yet there are 7 tubes. Very obvious math FAIL
2. sativa or indica? or strain name?
3. what strength (percentage) is/are the CBDs and THC?
4. oil is a liquid and thus NOT measured in grams. ML, CC, and OZ but not G.
5. what is the oil strength (G of material per ML of oil)?
6a. get a better infographic. that doesn't even look to be up to USA Today's very low standards.
6b. I think even 4chan has higher graphic standards. <trollface.jpg>
6c. linking to the page you got the graphic from as some sort of explanation is on par with pointing at a library and saying, "the answer might be in there somewhere, maybe."
6d. I'm continuing with the letters because i don't want to do an item number 7
 
2013-10-24 02:18:25 AM  

FlippityFlap: However, it does not cure cancer, nor much of anything else besides stress.


Stress and cancer have a pretty strong correlation with each other. The reason for this is because your immune system fights off most cancers from the day you're born, and stressed people have weakened immune systems. There are only so many cancer-fighting white cells to go around, and they can only be produced at a certain rate (quite likely to avoid the likelihood of their stem cells becoming cancerous themselves). So, the longer and more regularly someone's stressed (especially over trivial crap--things that weed also puts in perspective), the greater the chances that a cancerous cell will have the opportunity to multiply enough times without intervention in order to achieve a sort of "critical mass" as a tumor (i.e., start pulling its own blood supply and become a powerhouse of metastatic activity).

As such, yes, by even your own logic, cannabis does cure cancer--people just need to realize that some of the most effective cures can happen while someone's asymptomatic. Rabies, for example, is 100% fatal to humans when it isn't cured; however, it takes about a month or so for it to crawl up to your brain, so by vaccinating after exposure, you have plenty of time to cure it before it reaches critical mass (at which point, much like cancer's critical mass, the chances of survival drop dramatically).

Cannabis is sort of like a shot you can self-administer when the rabid dog of life unexpectedly bites you in the ass.
 
2013-10-24 02:27:12 AM  

koder: The reason for this is because your immune system fights off most cancers from the day you're born, and stressed people have weakened immune systems. There are only so many cancer-fighting white cells to go around, and they can only be produced at a certain rate (quite likely to avoid the likelihood of their stem cells becoming cancerous themselves). So, the longer and more regularly someone's stressed (especially over trivial crap--things that weed also puts in perspective), the greater the chances that a cancerous cell will have the opportunity to multiply enough times without intervention in order to achieve a sort of "critical mass" as a tumor (i.e., start pulling its own blood supply and become a powerhouse of metastatic activity).


That's not how cancers work, though. And that's why immunotherapy has been geared, since day one, at figuring out how to get a cancer cell to flag it's self as non-self, so that the immune system CAN attack it.

Your immune system doesn't "fight off" cancers from the day you're born. Your cells have suicide machinery in place to, in layman's terms, flag them as defective for the immune system to destroy, have telomeres which determine how long the cell will continue to metabolize and divide, and release compounds when injured or irritated which induce apoptosis.

A solid tumor cell is a cell which has managed to turn off all of the above mechanisms, and has effectively become immortal. It still, however, identifies as a "self" cell, meaning the immune system will not recognize it as haywire and destroy it. It is, however, given a ravenous appetite and begins to grow and undergo mitosis faster than the cells around it. This is why chemotherapy is so effective for certain solid tumors - they damage the fast-growing cells during their division process.

Marijuana's active compounds are anxiolytic in MOST people, and they are an effective adjunct to treating vomiting and anorexia, but you're overstating the ability for the average person using marijuana to treat their cancer with it.

Telling someone NOT to do Chemotherapy and to use pot instead, especially when some cancers have 97-98% five year survival rates with early treatment, is not only irresponsible, but dangerous.
 
2013-10-24 05:59:58 PM  
So, I have one question,,,
When can I get Obamacare to pay for pot?

Wait 'till the Christian Taliban finds out it is not just birth control they now pay for.
 
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