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(AsiaOne)   Scientists lower the air quality index in the Chinese city of Harbin from "apocalyptic" to "moderately hellish"   (yourhealth.asiaone.com) divider line 36
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2013-10-23 08:11:52 AM
Nothing says "Rising global power" like two generations of Chinese children who have chronic lung diseases from constant pollution.
 
2013-10-23 08:49:39 AM
I thought the Chinese were supposed to be full of wisdom and shiat?  I would think "destroying your country and the health of its populous from within" would be somewhere in all the shiat Confucius wrote.
 
2013-10-23 08:50:03 AM
Brings back memories of my 2008 trip.  Couldn't see the street from my 9th floor hotel room in Nanjing cause of the smog.  When I landed in Nanjing, I thought there was a huge fire at the airport because the weather report was for clear skies and the smell was so bad.
 
2013-10-23 08:50:49 AM
ok cool, every can go back to burning shredded tires to cook
 
2013-10-23 08:52:27 AM
If you slant your eyes just right, you won't notice how bad it really is.
 
2013-10-23 08:58:21 AM
But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe
 
2013-10-23 09:00:40 AM
Somehow I have the feeling that the Chinese government cares very little for the general population, well except for the few rich elite.

They are becoming more Americanized all the time.
 
2013-10-23 09:02:22 AM

Tatterdemalian: But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe


Who the fark says that?
 
2013-10-23 09:04:55 AM
Why would I care?
 
2013-10-23 09:08:25 AM
We are up to our armpits in Chinese FOBs in Vancouver (and its getting worse by the day). We have also been blanketed in fog (at least that's what they tell us it is) so much so that the foghorns have been going off since Thursday,day and night.
Coincidedence?
 
2013-10-23 09:11:33 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Somehow I have the feeling that the Chinese government cares very little for the general population, well except for the few rich elite.

They are becoming more Americanized all the time.


I would say we are working really hard to meet in the middle.
 
2013-10-23 09:15:22 AM

born_yesterday: I thought the Chinese were supposed to be full of wisdom and shiat?  I would think "destroying your country and the health of its populous from within" would be somewhere in all the shiat Confucius wrote.



With a population of over a billion, they can afford to throw away a few tens of millions of people.
 
2013-10-23 09:20:31 AM
Straw? These savages still burn straw???
 
2013-10-23 09:28:52 AM

born_yesterday: I thought the Chinese were supposed to be full of wisdom and shiat?  I would think "destroying your country and the health of its populous from within" would be somewhere in all the shiat Confucius wrote.


People heal and reproduce all on their own.  Money doesnt.
 
2013-10-23 09:34:58 AM

thecpt: Tatterdemalian: But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe

Who the fark says that?


The UN, on every AGW enforcement ruling they've ever made.

/you know, the founder of the International Criminal Court and legislative source of all those "international laws" that NPR and the BBC keep insisting the US must uphold
 
2013-10-23 09:35:53 AM

thecpt: Tatterdemalian: But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe

Who the fark says that?


The voices in his head. They're the only people stupid enough for him to beat in an argument.
 
2013-10-23 09:37:09 AM

Tatterdemalian: The UN, on every AGW enforcement ruling they've ever made.


The UN exempted China because they're environmentally conscious? That's news to anyone with a functioning brain.
 
2013-10-23 09:50:24 AM
Hopefully they are still going to work.   those now iPads aren't going to make themselves, you know
 
2013-10-23 09:51:19 AM

upndn: If you slant your eyes just right, you won't notice how bad it really is.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-10-23 09:51:24 AM
The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.

bikepgh.org

Unfortunately in China you can't see the wise man for all the smog.

All the mine fires hardly help.

static.environmentalgraffiti.com
 
2013-10-23 09:59:52 AM
It's 2013 and they still heat their homes with coal ?

England banned that use for coal in the 1950s and got rid of the infamous London fog and all the deaths it caused, you would think that a country that is modernizing at the rate China is modernizing would have banned burning coal in urban centers long ago.  I guess their really don't value their own lives.
 
2013-10-23 10:05:05 AM

Tatterdemalian: thecpt: Tatterdemalian: But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe

Who the fark says that?

The UN, on every AGW enforcement ruling they've ever made.

/you know, the founder of the International Criminal Court and legislative source of all those "international laws" that NPR and the BBC keep insisting the US must uphold


2/10.  Needs more black helicopters.

Also, a fundamental understanding of modern environmental science, but, baby steps.
 
2013-10-23 10:05:59 AM
I realize that 'money talks' but somehow I really wish the Western European / North American powers would stop cozying up so much to China.   They are hardly strong enough to be a 'world empire'.

"They've got half the world's population! It's a huge market!"

- half of that population are dirt farmers with no money to buy what you are selling.
- the Chinese agriculture industry is heading for a collapse on two fronts:
  - pollution
  - lack of automation.   Young Chinese don't want to wade around rice paddies.  They want to drive Mercedes and be stylish.  Ergo, only old folks working the farms.  When they die, well, oops, sorry, no rice.  Hmm... maybe I should buy shares in Masey-Fergueson, International Holland and John Deere...

/thus contradicting myself
 
2013-10-23 10:18:08 AM
This should be a good lesson to all the goose stepping morons on the far right that want to abolish  the EPA in the name of freedom -

/talkin bout you teabggers and republicans
 
2013-10-23 10:29:22 AM
Imagine if you will, at some very happy point in the future of Earthling humans, China just says "fark it" and starts shipping the people with some lung function left, to their new mainland here in the West, by the 10,000s, while they hold up that little multi-trillion dollar note we have with them in one hand, and their nuclear football in the other.
 
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2013-10-23 11:05:27 AM
I think they know exactly what they are doing.

They have accelerated evolution by creating an environment that selects for extreme resistance to pollution as part of their plot for world domination.  The lead and beryllium were just test runs.

After they breed a population of soot breathing mutants, they will alter the earth's atmosphere in such a way that only they can breath it, leading to the extinction of humanity as we know it.

Call it China-forming.   Those commies are clever little devils.
 
2013-10-23 11:11:25 AM

two towns over: We are up to our armpits in Chinese FOBs in Vancouver (and its getting worse by the day). We have also been blanketed in fog (at least that's what they tell us it is) so much so that the foghorns have been going off since Thursday,day and night.
Coincidedence?


How is their driving?
 
2013-10-23 11:17:09 AM
Tell us, again, liberals, how the conditions in a communist country are due to the evils of capitalism. I have always found the rantings of lunatics to be amusing, after all.
 
2013-10-23 11:18:05 AM

capt.hollister: It's 2013 and they still heat their homes with coal ?

England banned that use for coal in the 1950s and got rid of the infamous London fog and all the deaths it caused, you would think that a country that is modernizing at the rate China is modernizing would have banned burning coal in urban centers long ago.  I guess their really don't value their own lives.


Coal is still used in US homes and electricity factories
 
2013-10-23 11:31:16 AM

Tatterdemalian: thecpt: Tatterdemalian: But they should be exempted from international global warming laws, because the Chinese are so much more environmentally conscious than the stupid Americans.

/if we repeat the Big Lie enough, it becomes true
//at least in our heads
///the real world might still say mean, cruel, collectively punishing things like "you can't stop global warming because you won't do anything about the worst polluters," but that doesn't matter because we want to believe

Who the fark says that?

The UN, on every AGW enforcement ruling they've ever made.

/you know, the founder of the International Criminal Court and legislative source of all those "international laws" that NPR and the BBC keep insisting the US must uphold


No "international laws" are binding on the US if they haven't been signed and ratified by the US government.
And even then, the same government can decide unilaterally to stop abiding by them.
 
2013-10-23 11:34:40 AM
This is an accurate prediction, even more so based on Chinese history. The Chinese have had enormous leaps forward, followed by cancelling out that progress with an obliterating amount of failure, and never learning a thing.

China: 7500 years of continual civilization, still can't treat its sewage.
 
2013-10-23 11:35:19 AM

Silly_Sot: Tell us, again, liberals, how the conditions in a communist country are due to the evils of capitalism. I have always found the rantings of lunatics to be amusing, after all.


It's cute that you think China practices anything Marx would recognize as communism.

What?  You didn't think the label on their political party was any more accurate than the label on their pet food, did you?
 
2013-10-23 11:40:33 AM

thecpt: capt.hollister: It's 2013 and they still heat their homes with coal ?

England banned that use for coal in the 1950s and got rid of the infamous London fog and all the deaths it caused, you would think that a country that is modernizing at the rate China is modernizing would have banned burning coal in urban centers long ago.  I guess their really don't value their own lives.

Coal is still used in US homes and electricity factories


Coal is still used all over the world, that wasn't my point.

In western countries urban dwellings are no longer heated by coal the way they used to be up to 50-60 years ago. In a rural setting heating homes with coal doesn't generate a very acute problem, but in a city of 10 million it is untenable, as demonstrated by the recent situation in Harbin.  That's why you can't do that in western metropolitan areas. Heck, I live in an area where there's talk of banning wood-burning fireplaces and heating stoves because of the pollution they generate.

Coal is a cheap way to fuel power plants. The harmful emissions generated can be largely reduced (though not completely eliminated), but at least power plants are not generally situated right smack in the middle of cities, in China or elsewhere. No, the real and immediate problem is when 10 million people sharing the same limited area all use coal to heat their family dwellings.
 
2013-10-23 11:46:14 AM
We are up to our armpits in Chinese FOBs in Vancouver (and its getting worse by the day). We have also been blanketed in fog (at least that's what they tell us it is) so much so that the foghorns have been going off since Thursday,day and night.
Coincidedence?

How is their driving?

People who think the Chinese are capable of running the world economy have not seen auto chaos that is Vancouver. There was a statistic somewhere that vehicular deaths in Vancouver are the same as gun related deaths in an American city of the same size. I was almost hit 7 times one morning walking my 9 year old to school, and its usually at least twice a week for a near miss.
 
2013-10-23 12:06:13 PM
Point taken other capt.
 
2013-10-23 05:57:51 PM

WTF Indeed: Nothing says "Rising global power" like two generations of Chinese children who have chronic lung diseases from constant pollution.


Bah.  Londoners built an empire breathing this stuff.
 
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