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(Den Of Geek)   Superman III was bad, but at least it taught us some important lessons about 80s computer programming   (denofgeek.com) divider line 121
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2013-10-23 08:24:08 AM
They forgot: "When using your computer to launch missiles at Superman be sure to use the sound effects from 'Pac-Man' for the Atari 2600"
 
2013-10-23 08:25:19 AM
Superman III was bad, but it at least had this moment

comicbook.com
 
2013-10-23 08:46:45 AM
It also scarred a lot of children.
 
2013-10-23 08:47:35 AM
If I had only seen 2 movies in my life: Superman III, and Superman IV, I would assume that Superman III would go on to be the greatest movie ever made.

What I am saying is... Superman IV was unbelievably terrible. Do not watch it if you have not seen it. I beg you!
 
2013-10-23 08:48:11 AM
Superman III was bad, but at least it taught us some important lessons about 80s jeffties computer programming
 
2013-10-23 08:50:26 AM
The thing that always bugged me most about Superman III was the plastic bubble attack that the super computer launched at him.  Even as a kid I wondered why Superman suffocates inside a plastic bubble when he is able to breath fine in outer space?
 
2013-10-23 08:50:59 AM
I rewatched that movie a few months back, when Skinemax needed something to show after it got too late for porn.  It was never a good movie, but it's an unwatchable mess now.
 
2013-10-23 08:58:39 AM
* CLS on line 50? Why? Why? Why? Why do you need to clear the screen at that stage in the routine?

Because back then, if you didn't do that, you'd still have clutter on your screen from whatever was previously run.

I was in the habit of doing it back then also because screen real estate was precious, and the display was neater and easier to read if you cleared the screen at logical breakpoints, like at the beginning of input and output routines.

But it's apparent that the program itself is meant to be run, and it would display a "program" on the screen.  So logically, you'd want to clear the screen so the only thing visible is the "program" that the print statements would display.
 
2013-10-23 08:58:57 AM
Why isn't this on the "Geek" tab?
 
2013-10-23 08:59:26 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: Why isn't this on the "Geek" tab?


Because someone did a "CLS".
 
2013-10-23 09:12:55 AM

dittybopper: Jim from Saint Paul: Why isn't this on the "Geek" tab?

Because someone did a "CLS".


They cleared the screen?
 
2013-10-23 09:16:02 AM
Sadly I've seen worse examples
 
2013-10-23 09:17:05 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: dittybopper: Jim from Saint Paul: Why isn't this on the "Geek" tab?

Because someone did a "CLS".

They cleared the screen?


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2013-10-23 09:19:26 AM
You bring up some interesting points, Lana.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-23 09:29:08 AM
Superman III was embarrassing. Superman IV was dumb, and Superman II was overrated.
 
2013-10-23 09:29:41 AM
Still, my fave for the series, if not for Richard Pryor, and the sheer horror of watching that woman be turned into a robot against her will.

That was pure nightmare fuel when I was a kid.

/The 2600 arcade sounds were there on purpose for the 'missile attack'; it was seen as furthering the joke that warfare could now be an arcade game. Cause back then, that was a new concept.

//Get off my lawn.
 
2013-10-23 09:30:12 AM
Don't we get a geek link about Superman III pretty much every couple of weeks at this point?
 
2013-10-23 09:30:38 AM

ColSanders: The thing that always bugged me most about Superman III was the plastic bubble attack that the super computer launched at him.  Even as a kid I wondered why Superman suffocates inside a plastic bubble when he is able to breath fine in outer space?


Because he CAN'T breathe in outer space. They just always got that wrong until recently.
 
2013-10-23 09:32:02 AM

dittybopper: * CLS on line 50? Why? Why? Why? Why do you need to clear the screen at that stage in the routine?

Because back then, if you didn't do that, you'd still have clutter on your screen from whatever was previously run.

I was in the habit of doing it back then also because screen real estate was precious, and the display was neater and easier to read if you cleared the screen at logical breakpoints, like at the beginning of input and output routines.

But it's apparent that the program itself is meant to be run, and it would display a "program" on the screen.  So logically, you'd want to clear the screen so the only thing visible is the "program" that the print statements would display.


The special effects were actually done on Atari Computers for the flick.

I went to Atari Computer camp in the day and we got to see the actual code.  They also brought in the actor who played Doctor Falken from WarGames.  Good times.
 
2013-10-23 09:33:39 AM
CLS on line 50? On 10-12" green screens? Sure, why not.

/for those smart enough to remember the code they wrote.
 
2013-10-23 09:38:44 AM

Digitalstrange: Sadly I've seen worse examples


I don't think anything can ever be worse than this.

/I like the part where they start pretending to frantically type on different ends of the same keyboard as if they'd actually be typing anything coherent
 
2013-10-23 09:44:35 AM

Znuh: /The 2600 arcade sounds were there on purpose for the 'missile attack'; it was seen as furthering the joke that warfare could now be an arcade game. Cause back then, that was a new concept.


And now a gamer can conduct aerial warfare from a DC bakery on his laptop while drinking latte's and get a ribbon for his heroics.
 
2013-10-23 09:44:55 AM
I haven't seen SMIII in a very long time. A childhood memory though is my Aunt taking me, sis, brother to see it at the drive in back when they still used window mounted speakers. We were kids and there was an R rated movie playing on another clearly visible screen one lot over. I think I saw a boob. Only thing I remember from SMIII was the 'supercomputer' borging that lady, nightmare fuel indeed.
 
2013-10-23 09:45:20 AM
 
2013-10-23 09:45:39 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: CLS on line 50? On 10-12" green screens? Sure, why not.

/for those smart enough to remember the code they wrote.


I still have a notebook with some of my early (like 1983-ish) code in it.
 
2013-10-23 09:54:29 AM

Orgasmatron138: Don't we get a geek link about Superman III pretty much every couple of weeks at this point?


This.
I mean, how many farking times do go to this well for a story?
 
2013-10-23 10:02:19 AM
static.giantbomb.com
It's like Superman III.
 
2013-10-23 10:04:59 AM

FarkingSmurf: I haven't seen SMIII in a very long time. A childhood memory though is my Aunt taking me, sis, brother to see it at the drive in back when they still used window mounted speakers. We were kids and there was an R rated movie playing on another clearly visible screen one lot over. I think I saw a boob. Only thing I remember from SMIII was the 'supercomputer' borging that lady, nightmare fuel indeed.


Honestly, I haven't seen Superman III since I was about five years old.  And I remember nothing of it except that terrifying borg scene.  Until I read an article about it a few years ago, I didn't even remember that Richard Pryor was in it.

I second your "nightmare fuel" comment.  The memory still gives me the creeps today, in my mid 30s.
 
2013-10-23 10:06:24 AM
A drunk Brad, an evil Superman, a drunk Richard Pryor, a Rube Goldberg opening, Lana's pokies, that blonde chick's pokies, a cheesy fight against a supercomputer, that woman's face getting smashed in by a grapefruit, Jimmy Olson getting his leg broken like a little b*tch, Lois finally going away for most of the movie, and Christopher Reeve eating dog food - don't you think you people's standards are a bit high?
 
2013-10-23 10:07:46 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Superman III was bad, but it at least had this moment

[comicbook.com image 600x346]


...and the bartender says, "Superman, you're a real asshole when you're drunk."
 
2013-10-23 10:08:00 AM

browneye: Superman III was embarrassing.


This.

Superman IV was dumb,

That.

and Superman II was overrated.

Maybe; the Donner cut was far better than what came out in the theaters.
 
2013-10-23 10:12:05 AM

coeyagi: Lois finally going away for most of the movie


this right here was the best part of Superman 3.  To this day I don't get Margot Kidder's casting.  Such an unattractive woman.
 
2013-10-23 10:15:41 AM

coeyagi: Jimmy Olson getting his leg broken like a little b*tch,


I don't remember this
 
2013-10-23 10:17:11 AM
What... wrong... with it?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-23 10:17:29 AM

frepnog: coeyagi: Lois finally going away for most of the movie

this right here was the best part of Superman 3.  To this day I don't get Margot Kidder's casting.  Such an unattractive woman.


This; good god you could've had Racquel Welch, Jacklyn Smith, Jane Seymour or...someone to play that part and all they could come up with is...Margot Kidder?
 
2013-10-23 10:19:38 AM

Alphax: I rewatched that movie a few months back, when Skinemax needed something to show after it got too late for porn.  It was never a good movie, but it's an unwatchable mess now.


I have never observed that particular clock in action, myself.

Also, that brought back nightmares written in FORTRAN.
 
2013-10-23 10:20:15 AM

WippitGuud: What... wrong... with it?

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Dear god, didn't think it would be possible to make Richard Pryor unfunny; Superman III pulled it off.
 
2013-10-23 10:20:17 AM

Rwa2play: Margot Kidder


I have seen the stuff about how she "nailed her audition" or something.  All I can figure is that she must have been able to suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch, because I don't care how well she auditioned, Lois Lane was supposed to be an attractive young reporter.  Margot was NEVER attractive.
 
2013-10-23 10:22:39 AM

Rwa2play: Dear god, didn't think it would be possible to make Richard Pryor unfunny; Superman III pulled it off.


jeez.  the entire scene when he re-programmed the weather satellite was funny.  the scene at the end "I'll walk" was funny.  the scene when he swallows the screw (NEVER!) was funny.

It is still probably the most fun of the original Superman films.  TMP was too serious, Superman 2 was too campy and cheap.
 
2013-10-23 10:24:31 AM

historynow11: Obligatory.


I've always loved Dolph Lundgren-ish.
 
2013-10-23 10:27:55 AM

texdent: coeyagi: Jimmy Olson getting his leg broken like a little b*tch,

I don't remember this


Your problem, not mine.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-23 10:28:10 AM
Superman III was great and you should feel bad.

I submit that Gus Gorman's ability to control computers was a super power. All he needed was an origin story.
 
2013-10-23 10:29:26 AM

frepnog: Rwa2play: Margot Kidder

I have seen the stuff about how she "nailed her audition" or something.  All I can figure is that she must have been able to suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch, because I don't care how well she auditioned, Lois Lane was supposed to be an attractive young reporter.  Margot was NEVER attractive.


Or young-looking for that matter.

The Salkind's really farked up a potentially lucrative franchise didn't they?  Yeah, four movies were made; S:TM was fantastic, "II" depends on what version you see, "III" was bad, "IV" was an abomination.
 
2013-10-23 10:31:07 AM

frepnog: Rwa2play: Dear god, didn't think it would be possible to make Richard Pryor unfunny; Superman III pulled it off.

jeez.  the entire scene when he re-programmed the weather satellite was funny.  the scene at the end "I'll walk" was funny.  the scene when he swallows the screw (NEVER!) was funny.

It is still probably the most fun of the original Superman films.  TMP was too serious, Superman 2 was too campy and cheap.


Ehhh...I guess I remember Richard from his concerts; even then, those scenes felt forced to me.
 
2013-10-23 10:32:23 AM

Rwa2play: "IV" was an abomination


which was sad, really.  the actual IDEA behind that film was cool - that is, Superman taking it on himself to rid Earth of nuclear weapons.  It was like they just didn't care what the finished film was.  Such a pile of crap.
 
2013-10-23 10:34:52 AM

frepnog: coeyagi: Lois finally going away for most of the movie

this right here was the best part of Superman 3.  To this day I don't get Margot Kidder's casting.  Such an unattractive woman.


It was the 70's, man. You had to be there.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-23 10:34:59 AM

highbrow45: Superman III was great and you should feel bad.

I submit that Gus Gorman's ability to control computers was a super power. All he needed was an origin story.


He had one - standing in the unemployment line and getting denied pissed him off and made him a) bootstrappy and b) a supergenius.

3.bp.blogspot.com

It is every Republican's fantasy.

//oops, wrong tab
 
2013-10-23 10:35:10 AM

Rwa2play: .I guess I remember Richard from his concerts


he couldn't say "fark" in Superman 3.  His comedic timing was still great.
 
2013-10-23 10:35:24 AM

frepnog: Rwa2play: "IV" was an abomination

which was sad, really.  the actual IDEA behind that film was cool - that is, Superman taking it on himself to rid Earth of nuclear weapons.  It was like they just didn't care what the finished film was.  Such a pile of crap.


From what I heard, didn't the director essentially blackmail Chris into doing "IV"?  The finished product made "S:TM" seem cutting edge in comparison.
 
2013-10-23 10:36:40 AM

browneye: Superman III was embarrassing. Superman IV was dumb, and Superman II was overrated.


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