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(Daily Mail)   Smoking hot 27-year-old blonde arrested for DUI claims she was molested in back of police car, is now suing Zima and Miller (w/pics)   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 23
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2013-10-22 08:44:05 PM  
5 votes:

TheCheese: They haven't made Zima since 2008, Subbs.


You know how I know you didn't RTFA?
2013-10-23 06:00:40 AM  
2 votes:

omeganuepsilon: Arsayalalyur: You are considered unable to give consent if you are intoxicated.

[citation needed]


Seriously? Fine... here you go:

http://www.slc.edu/offices-services/security/assault/Penal_Law.html
2013-10-23 05:32:43 AM  
2 votes:

Alonjar: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.

There is no such thing as consent when the other person is drunk.  Which the officer had been arresting her for... so he was obviously aware of her drunken state and her inability to properly weigh decisions to grant consent.


oh come on.  you dont actually believe that do you?  So if im drunk and I run over kids, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I rob a bank, thats my fault.  If Im drunk and I lose my money in a casino, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I agree to sleep with someone, thats their fault?

you are a fool.
2013-10-23 05:03:14 AM  
2 votes:
Subby missed an opportunity to work in Long Island into the headline...missed an opportunity for an additional drink.

Seriously though, I have no idea if this happened or not and will never know unless later the cop admits it but I imagine this happens a lot more than it is reported and I commend her for coming forward.  A lot of sexual assaults go unreported and I imagine when the aggressor is involved with law enforcement it's even less likely to be reported. Either she's very stupid and vindictive or she's got ovaries of steel because it can't be easy to go through with this since the possibility of retaliation and harassment is very high in this case.  Either way it's in her best interests to probably move to another state as soon as realistically possible.

That being said, I think the majority of law enforcement personnel treat their jobs and their duties professionally but if this particular officer isn't she's doing the community a favor by coming forward with it so that maybe future victims can be spared.
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-10-23 12:19:22 AM  
2 votes:
1) Yes, the woman is attractive for the "smoking hot" reluctant crowd
2) The woman claims she tried to make "eye contact" with the female cop who was driving, why the fark didn't she scream her head off that "THIS MAN IS FINGERING ME MAKE IT STOP"

so, I see at least one hole in this story.
2013-10-22 08:25:57 PM  
2 votes:
That was beautiful, subby.
2013-10-23 02:39:34 PM  
1 votes:
100+ and I'm the first?  Sad day....

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2013-10-23 12:29:00 PM  
1 votes:

Kit Fister: Daily Mail? Smoking hot?

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Yep, subby almost got me to click the link until I saw the Daily Fail tag.

www.troll.me
2013-10-23 08:56:45 AM  
1 votes:

abhorrent1: Arsayalalyur: You are considered unable to give consent if you are intoxicated.

So if you're both drunk can you file rape charges against each other? No? Just the woman? Yeah that's what I thought.


I don't think there's ever been a case where both parties have filed rape claims against each other. I could be wrong. I'm not an expert, just started getting involved with this.  Male rape claims are rarely filed, but they're out there. Mostly male on male, but there can be female on male.

The climate in the military is changing, especially in the Air Force. Court cases set precedents. I don't have the citations, but there are plenty of cases, even civilian side, where it's been ruled as non-consensual.

Let's put it this way, tattoo parlors aren't supposed give tattoos if you're drunk, you can't legally sign contracts drunk, marriages can get annulled... tons of legal sticking points where you can't give consent if you're intoxicated, but somehow we give a pass on the drunk girl's ability to consent. I think some of you can't fathom having sex with a girl unless she's drunk.
2013-10-23 08:52:34 AM  
1 votes:
I'm calling bullshiat.

If you want to call me a misogynistic jerk, go ahead.  The huge percentage of false accusations lately, including the stupid "I was raped outside a bank because I was drunk and held a dude's mouth to my crotch" video from yesterday, have given me enough to rest easy doubting this person.
2013-10-23 06:30:15 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Ekshun: Arsayalalyur: I sound fat: Alonjar: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.

There is no such thing as consent when the other person is drunk.  Which the officer had been arresting her for... so he was obviously aware of her drunken state and her inability to properly weigh decisions to grant consent.

oh come on.  you dont actually believe that do you?  So if im drunk and I run over kids, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I rob a bank, thats my fault.  If Im drunk and I lose my money in a casino, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I agree to sleep with someone, thats their fault?

you are a fool.

Actually, that's exactly how it works. You are considered unable to give consent if you are intoxicated. And sex without consent is rape.

Holy shiat! I done been raped dozens of times!

I wonder what the various charges/potential defenses would be if I robbed a bank while having drunk sex...


Well, according to this guy, if you both were drunk, it would be the bank's fault.  you couldnt go to jail for it, you were in the middle of being victimized by each other.  You couldnt give consent to robbing the bank while coupled up, you were drunk.  If the bank hadnt had an open lobby policy....
2013-10-23 06:20:33 AM  
1 votes:
Well, we all know, that never in history has a person that was being arrested for DUI, ever, ever pulled the "do you know who I am?" or, the "I will sue you into oblivion" tactic when being arrested. Nor, has a female ever cried "rape" for any other reason than actual rape. Never.

/Do I really need to point out the sarcasm?
2013-10-23 06:03:03 AM  
1 votes:

Alonjar: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.

There is no such thing as consent when the other person is drunk.  Which the officer had been arresting her for... so he was obviously aware of her drunken state and her inability to properly weigh decisions to grant consent.



meanmutton: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.

1) In the US, it's always rape and always criminal if it's a sexual encounter between a police officer and someone in his custody.
2) Lots of women who are being raped freeze up during the assault.


I stand corrected.

Put away the sarcasm detectors, folks... this is actually somebody changing his mind on Fark.
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2013-10-23 05:59:32 AM  
1 votes:

Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.


Heh, I'm pretty sure it is illegal for a cop to have consensual sex with someone they're in the process of arresting. Your jurisdiction may vary though.
2013-10-23 05:50:17 AM  
1 votes:

I sound fat: Alonjar: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.

There is no such thing as consent when the other person is drunk.  Which the officer had been arresting her for... so he was obviously aware of her drunken state and her inability to properly weigh decisions to grant consent.

oh come on.  you dont actually believe that do you?  So if im drunk and I run over kids, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I rob a bank, thats my fault.  If Im drunk and I lose my money in a casino, thats my fault.  If im drunk and I agree to sleep with someone, thats their fault?

you are a fool.


Actually, that's exactly how it works. You are considered unable to give consent if you are intoxicated. And sex without consent is rape.
2013-10-23 05:42:59 AM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: Heh. I shiat you not, there was an SVU episode last week (or the week before) that you pretty much recapped in your post.


Most of those shows pull from real life, either discussions or actual events, so eh.  I really don't watch much TV, much less cop dramas, those I avoid like the plague.  Enhance, enhance, ENHANCE! and things like it really annoy the shiat out of me.
/more partial to sci-fi, where you expect it to not be realistic
2013-10-23 05:31:50 AM  
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: Yeah... I'm usually not one to doubt a sexual assault claim, but it sounds like she did the ole "maybe we can work out another way" and then changed her tune afterwards when it didn't work.

I don't know. My money is on her story being at least most'y true. I've actually seen a cop(former cop now) be dumb enough to start texting someone he wrote a ticket to, by getting the number from the records.

If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

I think it'd be enough to scare me into submission if the driver just lets the other one get in the back seat with me while she drives.  IF a cop is going to do something bad right in the same car as their partner, they're typically an accomplice. And scared enough of him and a possibility he could get violent and no escape path for me, sitting there handcuffed.

Between the two, reason enough to not scream, a wasted effort that could only make matters worse.  The female cop may even be a victim as well who's mentally beat down just enough to let her partner have his way.  Either blackmail or subbing to the alpha, or truly psychopathic.


Heh. I shiat you not, there was an SVU episode last week (or the week before) that you pretty much recapped in your post.
2013-10-23 05:22:26 AM  
1 votes:

Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: Yeah... I'm usually not one to doubt a sexual assault claim, but it sounds like she did the ole "maybe we can work out another way" and then changed her tune afterwards when it didn't work.

I don't know. My money is on her story being at least most'y true. I've actually seen a cop(former cop now) be dumb enough to start texting someone he wrote a ticket to, by getting the number from the records.

If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.


I think it'd be enough to scare me into submission if the driver just lets the other one get in the back seat with me while she drives.  IF a cop is going to do something bad right in the same car as their partner, they're typically an accomplice. And scared enough of him and a possibility he could get violent and no escape path for me, sitting there handcuffed.

Between the two, reason enough to not scream, a wasted effort that could only make matters worse.  The female cop may even be a victim as well who's mentally beat down just enough to let her partner have his way.  Either blackmail or subbing to the alpha, or truly psychopathic.
2013-10-23 05:19:40 AM  
1 votes:

Rhino_man: log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.

Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.


There is no such thing as consent when the other person is drunk.  Which the officer had been arresting her for... so he was obviously aware of her drunken state and her inability to properly weigh decisions to grant consent.
2013-10-23 04:31:09 AM  
1 votes:
If true she needs to put the entire SYSTEM on trial!
2013-10-23 04:28:08 AM  
1 votes:

Rhino_man: log_jammin: FNG: 2) The woman claims she tried to make "eye contact" with the female cop who was driving, why the fark didn't she scream her head off that "THIS MAN IS FINGERING ME MAKE IT STOP"

so, I see at least one hole in this story.

i thought that too until I got to this

Adding another layer of acknowledgement to the saga, Hannigan says that Zima looked up her cell phone number from police records and texted her a few days after the incident, asking how she was doing.

Yeah... I'm usually not one to doubt a sexual assault claim, but it sounds like she did the ole "maybe we can work out another way" and then changed her tune afterwards when it didn't work.


The thing with that theory is that the if someone said "maybe we can work out another way" you'd be expecting a little more than a grope.

I'm torn, I mostly believe it, assaulted woman like a rabbit stuck in the headlights, reported it straight away (but not to the cop in the front), texts continuing to pursue it civilly and not attempting to quash the DUI ... but then again it's in the mail.
2013-10-23 01:16:03 AM  
1 votes:

log_jammin: Rhino_man: If it were JUST the texting, then I'd be with you... but the texting combined with her not saying a farking word to get the attention of the other officer?

even if it was consensual the cop is still in the wrong.

Rhino_man: It smells fishy to me.  Pun intended.

very PUNgent.


Truth.  It's unethical, and he should be fired... but I doubt the claim that it wasn't consensual, therefore I doubt that it was CRIMINAL.
2013-10-22 11:53:49 PM  
1 votes:

TheCheese: They haven't made Zima since 2008, Subbs.


False.

They just don't sell it where you are.
 
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