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2013-10-23 12:22:03 AM  

bojon: Of course she will sue the homeowner for putting things in her way.


As well she should.
 
2013-10-23 12:22:57 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: somemoron: umad: jjorsett: Smeggy Smurf: gozar_the_destroyer: [www.wnyc.org image 640x622]

Use these next time.

Nah.  Hire me instead.  I've figure out the kind of fence that'll stop anything short of a charging MRAP and even they won't go far afterwards

I remember seeing a video a few years ago demonstrating a new kind of barrier designed to stop virtually anything. They drove a semi at it (remotely guided) at very high speed. The semi was stopped dead and its engine was torn out and thrown a good distance. Made quite an impression. Don't think even an MRAP would have penetrated it.

Link

That's simultaneously the funniest and scariest thing I have ever seen.  If you're in the drivers seat when you hit that, you're done.  Does ziplock make body bags?  Because you ain't gonna be much more than sammich sized pieces after being shredded by that thing.  Damn physics, you scary.

THIS.  Jesus Fark, that is one effective barrier.

DAY-um, physics, you SCARY!


The video made my graphics driver crash :( maybe some day I can see it... (and fix whatever is friggin' wrong with this laptop).
 
2013-10-23 12:28:16 AM  
Three words:
Bouncing Bettys
 
2013-10-23 12:31:52 AM  

umad: jjorsett: Smeggy Smurf: gozar_the_destroyer: [www.wnyc.org image 640x622]

Use these next time.

Nah.  Hire me instead.  I've figure out the kind of fence that'll stop anything short of a charging MRAP and even they won't go far afterwards

I remember seeing a video a few years ago demonstrating a new kind of barrier designed to stop virtually anything. They drove a semi at it (remotely guided) at very high speed. The semi was stopped dead and its engine was torn out and thrown a good distance. Made quite an impression. Don't think even an MRAP would have penetrated it.

Link


That one's new to me.  This is the one I remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD-Bbd2mavc
 
2013-10-23 12:33:41 AM  

Greek: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "The driver, Diane Rovedo, was flown to UMass Memorial Medical Center - University campus in Worcester with what police described as minor injuries."

THANKS, OBAMACARE! THEM'S MAH TAX DOLLAHS!

I know you're being funny, but it's standard procedure in most EMS services to fly the patient to the hospital after any accident that required extrication. The idea here being that if the car sustained enough damage that they couldn't get the patient out by opening the door, then enough force was involved that internal injuries are a strong possibility. Though from the picture, it looks like they didn't necessarily HAVE to cut the car open, but rather, that they were taking spinal precautions- cut the doors and B pillar off, recline the seat, and move the patient to a backboard. Although the "recline the seat" part looks ridiculous with the car upside- down. What did they do, have a few firefighters hold her up while they removed the seat belt? That DOES suggest that the lady was hanging upside down in her seat until the fire department got there.

/I'll take "mentally impaired" for $100, Alex


Dispatch SOP for an MVA in my old department's service area was "Tone out EMS, Tone out FD, put Airlife on standby".  Putting Airlife on "standby" saved about 6 minutes cause they'd get to tha choppa and spool up the engines and sit on the pad until either cancelled or called out.  We could get Airlife out at the accident site about the time the patient came out and then it was a 14 minute flight back to the Level 1 trauma center versus a 45 minute ambulance ride.  I'd rather have my "Golden Hour" spent in the hospital rather than in an ambulance.
 
2013-10-23 12:35:02 AM  
I hear these things do wonders.

www.ebmedicine.net
 
2013-10-23 12:39:13 AM  

Genju: Mikey1969: There is a house in Bisbee, AZ where someone has obviously crashed into the front yard on multiple occasions. It's one of those go-over-a-small-hill-then-have-a-sharp-turn-at-the-bottom situations, and the road is rather dark at night as well. Now, when you come upon the house at night, you're greeted with about 4 billion reflectors of all shapes, colors and sizes, and if varying height. I'd have to say that the only people who crash into that yard now are the same people who get drink enough to plow into a cop car when it's strobes are on. There is no way in hell anyone else can miss that house, it actually freaks you out the first time you find it.

Right next to that restaurant... um... sandwich place? Couple blocks from that microbrewery? I was there in 2011 for work and remember seeing something like that.

/brewery was ok. Maybe too much copper in the water.


Haven't been there in about 7-8 years, there wasn't a brewery at the time, but it's right as you're coming into town from the Sierra Vista end... Yeah, I'm not sure how well the water would work for beer there, but the town is one of my favorite places for drinking, a good selection of bars, just close enough to walk to all of them, quiet streets, but still enough of a life to have fun on a weekend, and you can walk back to wherever you're staying in about 10 minutes, tops. Used to do it for the 4th every year, much better than roasting in Phx, then being crammed in some park with 400,000 of my closest friends. Besides, the day's events were fun, too. Small mining town kinda stuff like mucking gravel and a drilling competition where they went out and found a boulder in the desert and had a race to see who could hand drill that thing the farthest in 5 minutes. Also, with all of the hills, they had coaster races(Like soapbox derby), but these things were hella fast...

Mostly a fun place to drink though. Also extremely nice people, the kind that get very drunk so buy you that 'Good to meet you, let me buy you a beer!' drink like 4 or 5 times.
 
2013-10-23 12:45:07 AM  

Target Builder: Hopjes: Been thinking about something like this myself. Fences/walls not allowed by local ordinance. Those hedge plants are a bit taller now so I was thinking some of those concrete posts that you see in public places strategically placed behind the hedges might work. Turns out they cost more than €100 each. My current plan involves a large upside down traffic cone some rebar and a bag of ready mix concrete[img.fark.net image 704x576]

Is landscaping allowed?

If so one of these more than a foot deep will stop most road vehicles if the slope is on the outside. If you have a really big yard you could make big one (10' or so) with the slope on your side of the Ha-Ha, for shiats and giggles when someone tries to drive over your lawn.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 565x407]


I like this idea, simple, fairly easy, I would drop the slope towards the Ha-Ha a bit to prevent a lucky bounce or a big truck getting over it.
/also Gozar has some sound ideas
//Some 'scapers in this thread
 
2013-10-23 12:49:14 AM  
 
2013-10-23 12:51:03 AM  
People like this are the 0.01% of people who cause 99% of the trouble.

Is there really no consensus for euthanasia for people like this?
 
2013-10-23 12:51:07 AM  

SamFlagg: It's stuff like this driver that makes me think "You know.........there ought to be something called 'reckless stupidity' if you're convicted of anything which at any point a jury thinks was exceptionally dumb, you get a 5 year reckless stupidity charge, to be served after whatever other sentence you have.  Not in normal jail either, but in a new 'really exceptionally stupid' jail."


www.freakingnews.com
 
2013-10-23 12:51:12 AM  

UsikFark: bojon: Of course she will sue the homeowner for putting things in her way.

Can she see for miles and miles?


Who the fark are you?
 
2013-10-23 12:53:43 AM  
PaLarkin       2013-10-22 10:53:01 PM  Bet this would never happen at Joe's truck stop.


fredklein     2013-10-23 12:11:06 AM  90+ posts, and only one mention of Joe's Truck Stop?

fredklein. You owe PaLarkin, in fact all of us a big apology. Actually not an apology because at first I read that as no mention rather than one mention. But how many mentions would have been sufficient to satiate your royal highness that your loyal subjects failed to provide for thee?
 
2013-10-23 12:56:17 AM  

Mad Mark: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

A gearhead friend of mine in the country got tired of his mailbox taking a beating so he mounted his on a coli spring. Never got to see it in action. The postman said it was illegal & refused to deliver his mail till he took it out.
Not CSB


Huh.

There were a lot of metal mail box posts on my walk to school back in the day.

Crank shaft from a straight six, huge links of chain welded together, you name it.

Also, i don't think there's anything in the domestic mail manual that is actually about that. Fairly certain, really, because when i bought my house the post office decided to tell me i needed to put out a box at the street.

Turns out that they decided to interpret "new address" as "someone with a different name at an address that has existed for 75 years" in the provision that allows them to dictate the method of delivery for a new address.

Which is bullshiat.

The domestic mail manual is the law of the land. All changes to the domestic mail manual must be approved by a congressional committee. If your post office pulls this kind of crap, hit them over the head with it, and threaten to talk to the district manager.

The postmaster doesn't give a shiat. The district manager is the guy the postmaster doesn't want to hear from.

/fought the post office and won
//csb
 
2013-10-23 12:57:55 AM  
Oh yeah, another one was an axle from an old truck. Mail box welded to the spindle. Differential in the ground. Wasn't going anywhere.
 
2013-10-23 01:02:22 AM  

zamboni: These days, that's attempted murder. He knew that his actions would result in injury, possibly death.


I would love to see you find a single case where someone has been criminally prosecuted for installing a hardened regulation USPS mailbox.

If it's on your property and not the right-of-way, it's no different than a telephone pole or a bollard.
 
2013-10-23 01:04:34 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: zamboni: The Toyota is not the first car to have landed in their front yard, so about 10 years ago Mr. Smith installed five 6-by-6 steel beams at the edge of the road.


Lawsuit by the driver in 3... 2...

"If the steel beams hadn't been installed, she wouldn't have been injured." All it will take is one greasy lawyer.

scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

These days, that's attempted murder. He knew that his actions would result in injury, possibly death. I ask you ladies and gentlemen of the jury what were the defendant's intentions if not to cause great bodily harm if not (dramatic pause) death.



One of my gradeschool teachers fixed the take the corner through his front yard by installing some lovely landscaping.

2 to 3 foot in diameter white granite river rocks, spaced about 2 feet apart. They were so pretty. And so effective.


I see the huge rock on the corner of the lot trick a lot here in Indiana. My grandpa did that actually.
 
2013-10-23 01:11:00 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: zamboni: These days, that's attempted murder. He knew that his actions would result in injury, possibly death.

I would love to see you find a single case where someone has been criminally prosecuted for installing a hardened regulation USPS mailbox.

If it's on your property and not the right-of-way, it's no different than a telephone pole or a bollard.


Unless the bollard is bollocks.
 
2013-10-23 01:13:38 AM  
www.telegram.com

8/10: Didn't stick the landing.
 
2013-10-23 01:29:30 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: gozar_the_destroyer: [www.wnyc.org image 640x622]

Use these next time.

Nah.  Hire me instead.  I've figure out the kind of fence that'll stop anything short of a charging MRAP and even they won't go far afterwards


Come Mr. Taliban, tally me some tank traps, MRAPs comin' me wanna go home...
 
2013-10-23 01:30:29 AM  

noitsnot: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

Strangely, this story seems to happen to everybody's friend's uncle's cousin, in every town in the U.S. of A.


The communal mailbox zone in my rural home.  Though the kids (football players) didn't  usually use the truck they were riding in, just bats/clubs and their hands.  Our back neighbor installed his mailbox in an expensive reinforced housing and stand, so they'd just rip the door off of it.

This also happened around once a year for over a decade, something about jocks and mailboxes.

Still it made an excellent response one time when they were going around begging for money.  "I buy a new mailbox because your team members destroy my old one about once a year.  Call that my donation and fark off."
 
2013-10-23 01:40:23 AM  

wildlifer: I have huge boulders.
Mailbox is 8 inch pipe buried 6 feet into rock, filled with rebar, and high density concrete. Box is made from 1/2 inch plate with expanded metal cage.


I live on a cul-de-sac in a decent neighborhood without dickheads, so in 15 years nothing has ever happened to my thin aluminum box on a 4x4 post.  Sometimes we go days without even checking the mail.  In another 15 years I expect to give 10x fewer shiats about mail and the boxes it is placed in than I do now.
 
2013-10-23 01:48:45 AM  

zamboni: "If the steel beams hadn't been installed, she wouldn't have been injured." All it will take is one greasy lawyer.



It'd take a greasy prepaid lawyer.  It's actually settled case law that barriers installed to protect yourself/property are not traps and to not incur liability on the part of the installing party/owner when somebody plows into them.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:02 AM  

fluffy2097: Aidan: Our postbox is still in a 5-gal bucket full of cement, above ground. Surprisingly the mail carrier hasn't complained, and the one time we got mailbox-baseballed (wtf is with you country people?!), it took some damage but mostly just fell over. It amuses me. I hope the carrier never makes us bury the bucket. :)

Round off the bottom of the bucket and make the mailbox into a giant weeble wobble.


If I ever again live somewhere that has a postbox at the curb, I just might do this to see what happens...

/Somewhere, at my folks' house, there could still be my weeble wobble haunted house.
//When I previewed, I got curious and went to find pictures to see if it was as I remembered it, and I had forgotten about the treasure chest!  Good times.
///Slashies come in threes.
 
2013-10-23 01:59:38 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "The driver, Diane Rovedo, was flown to UMass Memorial Medical Center - University campus in Worcester with what police described as minor injuries."

THANKS, OBAMACARE! THEM'S MAH TAX DOLLAHS!

Technically speaking, that would be Romneycare in Massachusetts.


Ha, I guess you're right! :-)
 
2013-10-23 02:02:40 AM  

Greek: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "The driver, Diane Rovedo, was flown to UMass Memorial Medical Center - University campus in Worcester with what police described as minor injuries."

THANKS, OBAMACARE! THEM'S MAH TAX DOLLAHS!

I know you're being funny, but it's standard procedure in most EMS services to fly the patient to the hospital after any accident that required extrication.


Well, I was trying to be funny, but you reminded me of a friend who died in a motorcycle accident. He was conscious and mobile, got in the back of the ambulance and died on the way to the hospital from internal injuries. Now I haz a sad :-(

/ RIP Gary
 
2013-10-23 02:03:52 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "The driver, Diane Rovedo, was flown to UMass Memorial Medical Center - University campus in Worcester with what police described as minor injuries."

THANKS, OBAMACARE! THEM'S MAH TAX DOLLAHS!

the driver will undoubtedly receive the bill for the medflight along with heavy fines for her driving prowess.  I'll guess a citizen of her standing won't care enough to pay it, but she'll always have bad credit and no license if she hangs around in Mass.


Maybe jail time, too? I think several crimes were committed during the chase, no?
 
2013-10-23 02:05:26 AM  
img.fark.net


"Yeah, I found the problem.  Seems you have an oil leak."
 
2013-10-23 02:27:14 AM  

noitsnot: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

Strangely, this story seems to happen to everybody's friend's uncle's cousin, in every town in the U.S. of A.


It was an episode of C.S.I.
 
2013-10-23 04:12:13 AM  

lilyleftthevalley: fluffy2097: Aidan: Our postbox is still in a 5-gal bucket full of cement, above ground. Surprisingly the mail carrier hasn't complained, and the one time we got mailbox-baseballed (wtf is with you country people?!), it took some damage but mostly just fell over. It amuses me. I hope the carrier never makes us bury the bucket. :)

Round off the bottom of the bucket and make the mailbox into a giant weeble wobble.

If I ever again live somewhere that has a postbox at the curb, I just might do this to see what happens...

/Somewhere, at my folks' house, there could still be my weeble wobble haunted house.
//When I previewed, I got curious and went to find pictures to see if it was as I remembered it, and I had forgotten about the treasure chest!  Good times.
///Slashies come in threes.


brofist to those that remember the weeble wobbles!

/had the treehouse
 
2013-10-23 04:34:28 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Wonder how they would fair verses a double gasoline tanker with a few road flares on the outside.


Given that part of the intended use is against VBIEDs?  Quite well.  At that point you don't give a hoot about how intact the barrier is AFTER the impact, as long as it stops(and keeps stopped) the rammer.

So your gasoline tanker might catch fire, but then it's burning in an open area NOT next to the critical buildings you're protecting with the barriers.
 
2013-10-23 05:05:11 AM  

Firethorn: gozar_the_destroyer: Wonder how they would fair verses a double gasoline tanker with a few road flares on the outside.

Given that part of the intended use is against VBIEDs?  Quite well.  At that point you don't give a hoot about how intact the barrier is AFTER the impact, as long as it stops(and keeps stopped) the rammer.

So your gasoline tanker might catch fire, but then it's burning in an open area NOT next to the critical buildings you're protecting with the barriers.


Good to know.

CSB time: There is a community college on an old air base where I got my first Associate's degree. The air force used one of the disused dorms and the adjacent airport to house a wing of planes while their base's runway was repaved completely and had new building built (full base renovation to replace the 30 year old stuff that was falling apart). They put up barriers to protect the dorm they were using as barracks from vehicles being driven into them, but only on one side. You could literally come from the other direction and there was nothing to stop a vehicle. And it wasn't all that odd to see trucks on that side of campus because of the CDL classes and deliveries to the welding school's building.

I guess they figured that terrorists were too dumb or spontaneous to do a basic look before attacking.
 
2013-10-23 05:30:16 AM  

UsikFark: I bet that was an eye-opener, like the first time you realize you can mow down newspaper stands in GTA but will be forcefully ejected if you ram a sapling.


I just want you to know it's your fault I woke everyone up in the house after laughing like a hyena because I was remembering that I totally have done that, many times, and it's still as funny the five hundredth time as the first, especially when drunk.
 
2013-10-23 06:08:25 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Hopjes: Ivan the Tolerable: Hopjes: Been thinking about something like this myself. Fences/walls not allowed by local ordinance. Those hedge plants are a bit taller now so I was thinking some of those concrete posts that you see in public places strategically placed behind the hedges might work. Turns out they cost more than €100 each. My current plan involves a large upside down traffic cone some rebar and a bag of ready mix concrete[img.fark.net image 704x576]

Cardboard Sonotube works and is dirt cheap, also the heavy cardboard tubes that they store sailboat sails in, if you are around any marinas. Both work really well for making bollards, and they help keep the concrete wet as it cures, which makes it much stronger and less prone to cracking/crumbling. Remember to bury them deep so they don't just pull out, and whack the piss out of them as you are pouring them if you don't have a proper concrete stinger, just to make sure you get the trapped air pockets out.

Never heard of sonotube, a quick google and it looks like I can get it locally. How deep is deep. iirc 22 foot telegraph poles only go down 3 feet, but of course the bottom of the pole is wider. I don't think they need to stick up more than 2 feet. Bringing the car to a complete stop isn't necessary, I would be happy to take out a sump or radiator.

I would go down 3 feet just to be sure. Three feet above ground too, so jacked up 4X4's still get stopped. Use some rebar or concrete that has reinforcing fibers too (or both if you want to really make them durable). A high pressure rated mix is a good idea as well since it is stronger, but can be more expensive. Also, don't forget to round or slant the tops slightly to reduce water penetration to improve the lifespan of the concrete.


A hypothetical acquaintance of mine used sawn-off telephone poles; as you say, 3' down, and 3' up.  Worked pretty good for 45 years, so far.

Hypothetically.
 
2013-10-23 06:21:26 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: They put up barriers to protect the dorm they were using as barracks from vehicles being driven into them, but only on one side.


The designers of this barrier are good, and static barriers in general are hard to screw up.  However as you point out that's only as effective as you deploy them.

Not knowing the specific situation you had, it could be that the force protection measures were improperly deployed, that there were 'hidden' protections you didn't recognize*, or that there were specific restrictions that prevented them from placing more barriers, so they did what they could, accepting the rest of the risk.

Sandbags and HESCOs can only do so much, especially if you want your barriers to 'blend'.

*remember the Ha-has earlier? I've seen them, and they're really only visible from the proper spots
 
2013-10-23 06:52:19 AM  

ruta: noitsnot: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

Strangely, this story seems to happen to everybody's friend's uncle's cousin, in every town in the U.S. of A.

It was an episode of C.S.I.


It was a bullshiat story long before it showed up on C.S.I.
 
2013-10-23 07:40:48 AM  

Mad Mark: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

A gearhead friend of mine in the country got tired of his mailbox taking a beating so he mounted his on a coli spring. Never got to see it in action. The postman said it was illegal & refused to deliver his mail till he took it out.
Not CSB


My parents have a mailbox wherr the bottom of the post is a spring. we don't get much of kids and bats but the plow trucks take out mailboxes every storm. they've had it for probably ten years now
 
2013-10-23 07:40:53 AM  

emersonbiggins: I would be tee'd off as well after repeated infractions, but this man must learn to channel his angle management issues more appropriately - perhaps by taking a moment to type riveting comments some place on the web.


Wanting to keep cars from smashing into your house and killing your family is an "anger management issue"? What an odd little world you must live in.
 
2013-10-23 07:42:41 AM  

Firethorn: gozar_the_destroyer: They put up barriers to protect the dorm they were using as barracks from vehicles being driven into them, but only on one side.

The designers of this barrier are good, and static barriers in general are hard to screw up.  However as you point out that's only as effective as you deploy them.

Not knowing the specific situation you had, it could be that the force protection measures were improperly deployed, that there were 'hidden' protections you didn't recognize*, or that there were specific restrictions that prevented them from placing more barriers, so they did what they could, accepting the rest of the risk.

Sandbags and HESCOs can only do so much, especially if you want your barriers to 'blend'.

*remember the Ha-has earlier? I've seen them, and they're really only visible from the proper spots


They didn't have anything on the back side and the MP's only paroled the campus about once an hour, the rest of the time they were at static positions. I would guess they were asked not to put anything back there because it was the college's baseball fields and the program was ran year round for practices.
 
2013-10-23 07:59:03 AM  
Oh another csb...had some kids try to run down our garbage one night...just so happened it was the night we througy out our cast iron fire grate...tore through their oil pan and jacked up the bottom of daddys car. cops found them fifty feet down the road where the car died
 
2013-10-23 07:59:57 AM  

pedobearapproved: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

I've heard that story told in different ways. Sometimes it's a concrete filled mailbox, sometimes it's a metal pipe planted in cement. All the stories are just to scare kids. Boogie-man stories to keep bored kids from hitting mailboxes with a baseball bat.

/also for the lawsuit guy, I've seen many a decorative brick mailbox, and I have reason to believe they all stem from baseball bat to mailbox interaction.


Actually, no. I (not my uncle's brother's sister's neice) built a mailbox filled with concrete for my parents after we went through four mailboxes and posts in one summer. I put a large mailbox on a metal post, filled it with concrete, embedded a standard maibox, and waited.

The next Friday night, I got to watch the carnage as the boys in the pickup truck hit it with a baseball bat. Bat bounced back into their truck, too. Mailbox lasted for quite a while until the neighborhood went plastic.
 
2013-10-23 08:09:37 AM  

Kevin72: PaLarkin       2013-10-22 10:53:01 PM  Bet this would never happen at Joe's truck stop.


fredklein     2013-10-23 12:11:06 AM  90+ posts, and only one mention of Joe's Truck Stop?

fredklein. You owe PaLarkin, in fact all of us a big apology. Actually not an apology because at first I read that as no mention rather than one mention. But how many mentions would have been sufficient to satiate your royal highness that your loyal subjects failed to provide for thee?


Oh, I expect my subjects to provide a full-on discussion of any and all things related to the thread topic, of course.

Or... I wanted to one-up him and post a pic, which didn't make it.
 
2013-10-23 08:17:27 AM  
technomuse:

Actually, no. I (not my uncle's brother's sister's neice) built a mailbox filled with concrete for my parents after we went through four mailboxes and posts in one summer. I put a large mailbox on a metal post, filled it with concrete, embedded a standard maibox, and waited.

The next Friday night, I got to watch the carnage as the boys in the pickup truck hit it with a baseball bat. Bat bounced back into their truck, too. Mailbox lasted for quite a while until the neighborhood went plastic.


I love these stories. Did any of the little shiats get a broken wrist?
 
2013-10-23 08:27:52 AM  

Hopjes: Been thinking about something like this myself. Fences/walls not allowed by local ordinance. Those hedge plants are a bit taller now so I was thinking some of those concrete posts that you see in public places strategically placed behind the hedges might work. Turns out they cost more than €100 each. My current plan involves a large upside down traffic cone some rebar and a bag of ready mix concrete[img.fark.net image 704x576]


My dad lived on a corner lot, and had a problem with a drunk asshole with a truck who liked to shave a few feet off his journey to the liquor store by driving acoss my dad's lawn. It wasn't even a square lot, it was rounded, but the guy just rounded it a little more. Well dad got tired of filling ruts, so he buried some 6 foot rebar poles along the edge. A couple of weeks later, he goes out one morning to find a rear truck bumper and part of a muffler in his yard.
 
2013-10-23 08:28:48 AM  

scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB


Exactly what my dad did. Painted the pole to look like rotten wood, and sunk a smaller mailbox into a larger one and filled the void with concrete and rebar then painted the box to look all rusted out.
Took out five cars, three baseball bats and numerous stupid vandals.
Never a lawsuit.
Always the cops charged the drivers.
They had to run a stop sign to approach it with a speed over 5 MPH, anyway, so if you hit it, you had already run a stop sign.
If you hit it hard enough to damage your car in a 25 MPH, you were speeding, too.

Fark them if they can't obey the law.
 
2013-10-23 09:04:33 AM  

noitsnot: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

Strangely, this story seems to happen to everybody's friend's uncle's cousin, in every town in the U.S. of A.


In Denver, there was a radio station where the morning show would prank someone over the phone on their birthday. One guy had filled his mailbox with concrete b/c it had been baseballed so many times (installed a smaller normal box on the far side).

They called this guy, posing as the father of a teenage boy who had broken his arm last night trying to destroy the mailbox. The "father" said he was going to sue the hell out of the homeowner. The homeowner freaking flipped. "Tell your boy to come over here so I can break his other farking arm and shove his bat up his ass!!" He went on for a good minute before they played him the happy birthday song.

Used to love those calls.

/csb
 
2013-10-23 09:29:52 AM  

Medic Zero: lilyleftthevalley: fluffy2097: Aidan: Our postbox is still in a 5-gal bucket full of cement, above ground. Surprisingly the mail carrier hasn't complained, and the one time we got mailbox-baseballed (wtf is with you country people?!), it took some damage but mostly just fell over. It amuses me. I hope the carrier never makes us bury the bucket. :)

Round off the bottom of the bucket and make the mailbox into a giant weeble wobble.

If I ever again live somewhere that has a postbox at the curb, I just might do this to see what happens...

/Somewhere, at my folks' house, there could still be my weeble wobble haunted house.
//When I previewed, I got curious and went to find pictures to see if it was as I remembered it, and I had forgotten about the treasure chest!  Good times.
///Slashies come in threes.

brofist to those that remember the weeble wobbles!

/had the treehouse


I was always so excited to play with them, and then bored 5.7 seconds later.

But having a mailbox weeble-wobble is a fantastic idea.
 
2013-10-23 09:34:30 AM  
I can't speak for every town ordinance but it's illegal to do this to a mailbox. The reasoning being that in an accident, the mailbox breaking instead of the car protects the people in the car.

Road barriers/bollards/posts/rails/etc are perfectly legal as they are meant to protect building occupants. If there's a reasonable expectation that an uncontrolled car could impact your house (or some potentially occupied structure like a garage, guard shack, or toll booth), then you have every right to put up protection. Fairly certain you need a permit (like any building project) but that's about it.
 
2013-10-23 09:35:06 AM  

MadAzza: emersonbiggins: I would be tee'd off as well after repeated infractions, but this man must learn to channel his angle management issues more appropriately - perhaps by taking a moment to type riveting comments some place on the web.

Wanting to keep cars from smashing into your house and killing your family is an "anger management issue"? What an odd little world you must live in.


Whoosh!
 
2013-10-23 09:39:58 AM  

noitsnot: scottydoesntknow: My 10th grade history teacher loved to tell the story of how punk kids would drive their pick-up down his street when he was young and slam their door into his family's mailbox and knock it over.

After about the 4th time, his dad decided to install a new mailbox. This mailbox was dug 5 feet into the ground, had a metal pole (with wood around it to hide the pole), and concrete poured in. One day they're all sitting around inside and they hear a really loud crunching noise outside. They go out and there's a door to a Chevy wrapped around the mailbox and two teenagers dazed and wondering what the hell happened.

His dad called the cops who then called their dads and he never saw the kids again.

/CSB

Strangely, this story seems to happen to everybody's friend's uncle's cousin, in every town in the U.S. of A.


While this is mostly urban legend, I'm sure there probably are a few instances where it really did happen.

My true story is of an @sshole in a Jeep with big offroad tires that was taking great amusement in driving down our street and knocking all the piled snow at the edge of the road back in front of the driveways where it was cleared from.  I cleared the driveway again, and then hosed down the snow pile turning it into a big "slushie", which then froze that night.  The next day we got a new snowfall with nice light fluffy snow covering it all.
That night I hear the Jeep coming down the street, and managed to make it to the window in time to see him hit what he thought would be a nice big pile of loose snow.  He hit hard and the Jeep went up onto two wheels briefly and came down hard again, but he managed to keep going.  I never saw him again, so I think he learned a lesson (at least not to pull that sh*t on MY street).
 
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