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2013-10-22 08:01:10 PM  
Or you can join the 21st century and just get Amazon Prime.
 
2013-10-22 08:05:07 PM  
WHAT??? They raised the price on Amazon Prime?

*clicks link*

Oh, no, they didn't.  As you were then.
 
2013-10-22 08:11:21 PM  
In these times we currently live in right now today, not having Amazon Prime is like not vaccinating your children or refusing to drink fluoridated water.
 
2013-10-22 08:21:08 PM  

sigdiamond2000: In these times we currently live in right now today, not having Amazon Prime is like not vaccinating your children or refusing to drink fluoridated water.


I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.  It was worth it to me for the shipping, but when they added free movies and TV shows I had an orgasm.  For six days.

I can't think of anything else I use so much that only costs me $79 a year.
 
2013-10-22 08:30:55 PM  
Lsherm:I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.

My crappy internet access isn't fast enough to stream video.  When it comes to shipping stuff I can usually wait for super-saver.
 
2013-10-22 08:32:34 PM  

quokka70: Lsherm:I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.

My crappy internet access isn't fast enough to stream video.  When it comes to shipping stuff I can usually wait for super-saver.


Like the original post said, we'll be waiting for you here in the 21st Century whenever you feel like joining us.
 
2013-10-22 08:42:58 PM  

Lsherm: sigdiamond2000: In these times we currently live in right now today, not having Amazon Prime is like not vaccinating your children or refusing to drink fluoridated water.

I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.  It was worth it to me for the shipping, but when they added free movies and TV shows I had an orgasm.  For six days.

I can't think of anything else I use so much that only costs me $79 a year.


Six days? I only managed 3...then I had to order more dog food for the pups. No time for that fun stuff you know. I ordered 90 lbs of Hi Tex Naturals Sunday morning and it arrived yesterday via UPS at noonish. They can have my Prime acct when they pry it from....

Headline fail.
 
2013-10-22 08:52:10 PM  
Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves
 
2013-10-22 08:52:19 PM  

BKITU: Or you can join the 21st century and just get Amazon Prime.


This. Best deal out there.
 
2013-10-22 08:58:28 PM  
I just put items on my wish list, and then go back every once in a while and order enough to reach the free shipping threshold. I'll be ordering exactly the same amount of stuff as before, just less often. It won't cost me a penny extra.
 
2013-10-22 09:04:17 PM  
I do wish they'd change Amazon Prime from a once a year charge to a monthly charge.
 
2013-10-22 09:05:23 PM  

LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves


My annoyance lately is that a lot of the small, cheap items I need, like cables have suddenly become add-on items where you have to get over $25 in your order to add them.
 
2013-10-22 09:07:10 PM  

Mad_Radhu: LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves

My annoyance lately is that a lot of the small, cheap items I need, like cables have suddenly become add-on items where you have to get over $25 in your order to add them.


not with Prime.
 
2013-10-22 09:11:16 PM  

log_jammin: Mad_Radhu: LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves

My annoyance lately is that a lot of the small, cheap items I need, like cables have suddenly become add-on items where you have to get over $25 in your order to add them.

not with Prime.


Nope, even Prime has a minimum on the add-ons.
 
2013-10-22 09:12:28 PM  
Example:

http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Unlimited-AUD-1100-06-Stereo-Cable/dp/B0 0 0SE6IV8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382490706&sr=8-1&keywords=Audio+cable
 
2013-10-22 09:15:54 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Nope, even Prime has a minimum on the add-ons.


I'll be damned. I would have swore I bought just an add on item before.
 
2013-10-22 09:29:42 PM  
I don't care much for Amazon Prime. I miss when Optimus was the leader. And what's this whole business about Unicron coming back because Starscream's ghost stole a pair of robot eyes? WTF is that?
 
2013-10-22 09:52:25 PM  

quokka70: Lsherm:I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.

My crappy internet access isn't fast enough to stream video.  When it comes to shipping stuff I can usually wait for super-saver.


same for me and as for the extra $10 , its a small enough increase it does not affect me as i normally order at least $50 + worth of stuff when i order from amazon.
 
2013-10-22 10:18:12 PM  
I'm a 'student' Prime member...(although I'm no longer a student..for some reason Amazon let me renew it like I was a student this year, without needing any proof)..for that price it's worth it. For $79 or whatever the regular cost is, not-so-much for me. The free TV/movies are still very, very limited. I don't own a Kindle so the free books don't benefit me. (When my membership lapsed, I spent zero dollars on Amazon for about a 5 month period. I now probably make a half dozen orders a month).
 
2013-10-22 10:36:26 PM  

MBZ321: I'm a 'student' Prime member...(although I'm no longer a student..for some reason Amazon let me renew it like I was a student this year, without needing any proof)..for that price it's worth it. For $79 or whatever the regular cost is, not-so-much for me. The free TV/movies are still very, very limited. I don't own a Kindle so the free books don't benefit me. (When my membership lapsed, I spent zero dollars on Amazon for about a 5 month period. I now probably make a half dozen orders a month).




There is a Kindle app for iOS and Android.
 
2013-10-22 10:40:55 PM  
I have Prime but I plan on dumping it. My own self-experimentation has shown that I buy three times more stuff from Amazon when I have prime than when I do not. This reflects objective research that has shown the same thing. Amazon could give Prime away for free and still make money off of it.

As it stands Prime is a win-win for Amazon. If you don't use it they make profit off the service fee. If you do use it they make profit because you buy more stuff. Whoever thought that nifty trick up deserves a prize.
 
2013-10-22 10:41:54 PM  

HempHead: There is a Kindle app for iOS and Android.


Last I saw, you needed an actual Kindle device in order to take advantage of the Lending Library.

/The Paperwhites are awesome and cheap enough that anyone into reading probably should have one. It's not even that hard to get Humble Bundle books on to them.
 
2013-10-22 10:54:31 PM  
I don't even want to think about how many thousands of dollars in impulse purchases I've made from drunk shopping with Amazon Prime.

And yet I regret absolutely nothing.
 
2013-10-22 11:02:49 PM  

LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves


Preach it. Farking Amazon will let anyone defraud its customers these days. I order items from sellers on Amazon and almost every time I receive a knock-off of the described item.

AND AMAZON KNOW THIS HAPPENS WITH GREAT REGULARITY AND DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT IT.

Leave a feedback about a bait and switch and it's removed.

I buy stuff from Amazon on Amazon.com but I'm fed up with Amazon.com participating in and covering up fraud. I used to sell on Amazon and it was easy peasy but I was an honest seller.

And it's not just small, shady sellers. There's one huge seller on Amazon that won't accept returns on items less than $20 or so. So they shipped me an item that was broken in the retail box. Oh well. Last time I bought from them.
 
2013-10-22 11:03:46 PM  

Genevieve Marie: I don't even want to think about how many thousands of dollars in impulse purchases I've made from drunk shopping with Amazon Prime.

And yet I regret absolutely nothing.




The cameras and lenses I have bought on a whim could feed a person for a year. Even the prosumer grade stuff is expensive.
 
2013-10-22 11:05:23 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves

Preach it. Farking Amazon will let anyone defraud its customers these days. I order items from sellers on Amazon and almost every time I receive a knock-off of the described item.

AND AMAZON KNOW THIS HAPPENS WITH GREAT REGULARITY AND DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT IT.

Leave a feedback about a bait and switch and it's removed.

I buy stuff from Amazon on Amazon.com but I'm fed up with Amazon.com participating in and covering up fraud. I used to sell on Amazon and it was easy peasy but I was an honest seller.

And it's not just small, shady sellers. There's one huge seller on Amazon that won't accept returns on items less than $20 or so. So they shipped me an item that was broken in the retail box. Oh well. Last time I bought from them.


I only buy stuff from Amazon directly, or stuff that is sold by a major manufacturer and fulfilled by Amazn.
 
2013-10-22 11:16:32 PM  

Genevieve Marie: I don't even want to think about how many thousands of dollars in impulse purchases I've made from drunk shopping with Amazon Prime.

And yet I regret absolutely nothing.


I take solace in the fact I downloaded lots of free Kindle books and mp3s off of Amazon. It helps make up for the horse head mask and the juggling clubs.
 
2013-10-22 11:39:22 PM  
Love my amazon prime. Buy too much stuff with it. Totally worth it
 
2013-10-22 11:52:56 PM  
Amazon Prime is ridiculously awesome.

My 12 year old computer speakers died today.  So instead of driving the 10 miles to Best Buy, I just ordered up some new ones from Amazon, which will be here Thursday.

Factor the distance to the store + the number of packages I get from Amazon (minimum one a week, usually more) and it's a no-brainer for me.  Even at $8 in shipping per week I'd be $500/year in shipping, or more in gas.

My wife and I have twin 2-year old girls and a 6-year old girl.  Our shopping time is "whenever they are all in bed and we haven't collapsed yet".

Last year for Christmas we ordered every single present from there.  I think the UPS and/or FedEx guy was at my house every day between Thanksgiving and the middle of December.  It got to the point where I'd just say "See you tomorrow.....".
 
2013-10-22 11:55:33 PM  

Sharksfan: Last year for Christmas we ordered every single present from there.


that's my plan for this year.
 
2013-10-23 12:05:22 AM  

BKITU: Or you can join the 21st century and just get Amazon Prime.


Best $79 I spend a year.  Probably saved me a few hundred in shipping costs, and the video service is rather nice too.
 
2013-10-23 12:11:04 AM  
I've come to do a lot of my shopping on Amazon after I got Amazon Prime.

Just earlier today, I realized I needed to get new filters for my aquarium.  Look up the price on Amazon, free prime shipping.  Price is exactly equal to what the pet store and wal-mart have it listed for online as well.  Ordered it, should be in on Thursday, and I don't have to get out in traffic after I get in from work to go buy it.

I do a lot of my Christmas shopping on there, and a lot of my just plain general shopping.

That and pretty much all the music I download are MP3's I buy from Amazon.  No-DRM simple MP3's, no hassle.  Plus a lot of free MP3's too.  I've managed to get free Native American flute music, Celtic music, Christmas music and lots of free indie rock.  At least a small amount of all that music was even pretty decent, and it was definitely worth what I paid for it.

Amazon probably gets more of my money than any other single retailer except maybe the grocery store where we get our food.
 
2013-10-23 12:18:36 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: LemSkroob: Free shipping would be great (be it by reaching the $35 minimum or having prime) if 8 out of 10 items werent sold by 3rd parties like its ebay, and therefore arent eligible.

/I remember when amazon actually sold stuff themselves

Preach it. Farking Amazon will let anyone defraud its customers these days. I order items from sellers on Amazon and almost every time I receive a knock-off of the described item.

AND AMAZON KNOW THIS HAPPENS WITH GREAT REGULARITY AND DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT IT.

Leave a feedback about a bait and switch and it's removed.

I buy stuff from Amazon on Amazon.com but I'm fed up with Amazon.com participating in and covering up fraud. I used to sell on Amazon and it was easy peasy but I was an honest seller.

And it's not just small, shady sellers. There's one huge seller on Amazon that won't accept returns on items less than $20 or so. So they shipped me an item that was broken in the retail box. Oh well. Last time I bought from them.


I had prime for years before the free movie thing and probably at least half the consumer goods and electronics in my house come from Amazon. Just about every gift comes from Amazon, certainly anything that will be shipped elsewhere. But I can't recall a single instance of shoddy merchandise or anything but an extremely generous return policy. I'm generally fluttering by prime only items but other than that I really don't screen the vendor at all. If you don't mind can you give an example or two?
 
2013-10-23 01:10:00 AM  
Love me some AmP. Movies and shows work great on the WiiU, I can check imdb info on the controller and etc while watching.

I dropped netflix since I never used it. Wife pays for her own netflix so I could watch if there was something good or not on AmP, but i never do watch Netflix. Haven't had cable in years.

What sucked is when HBO stopped letting me buy Game of Thrones 24 hours after airing. I pirated a few for a bit and ultimately got tired of hunting for quality streams or downloads. Fark them if they don't want my $3 per ep. Paying $12 per month for a show I like isn't unreasonable and around 10% of my old cable bill.

AmP paid for itself the first order I made which was a huge-assed treadmill. You can tell some do jack the price up for shipping and offer prime, but still great deals all over the place with it. Ordered like $40 worth of carnival prizes for my wife's elementary school and I built the ring toss game We had a blast on the cheap.

/will be buying the new walking dead soon or in the morning when I finally get a chance to watch
 
2013-10-23 01:14:16 AM  
One more voice for Amazon Prime. Hell at this point even the movies included with Prime Membership are getting to be a good selection. For me, the free two day shipping on orders is icing on the cake for me. And luckily the majority of the things I order from Amazon qualifies for the free shipping; sometimes I receive some items within a day!
 
2013-10-23 01:35:31 AM  

quokka70: Lsherm:I don't understand why everyone isn't a Prime member.

My crappy internet access isn't fast enough to stream video.  When it comes to shipping stuff I can usually wait for super-saver.


I had shiatty internet access, too.  I originally got prime for the shipping discount.  I've only recently started the TV and movie streaming.
 
2013-10-23 01:48:57 AM  
Seriously? You're complaining about AMAZON? Probably the most consumer friendly retailer in existence? A place that is SO consumer friendly they actually piss off shareholders by sacrificing profit for customer satisfaction?

Go fark your fat face you spoiled twat.
 
2013-10-23 01:55:15 AM  
I still haven't seen a free for amazon prime member video title that I wanted to see that wasn't already on Netflix.

I got my Prime at a discount rate the previous Black Friday, and I still haven't watched a video from Amazon yet.
 
2013-10-23 02:39:43 AM  
Or, just throwin it out there, you could shop at your local brick and mortar small businesses.
 
2013-10-23 03:05:03 AM  

firefly212: Or, just throwin it out there, you could shop at your local brick and mortar small businesses.


Wal-Mart put those guys out of business years ago.
 
2013-10-23 06:49:26 AM  
Wal-Mart put those guys out of business years ago.

walmart is trying to catch up. like allowing people to order for free store pickup with no credit card needed so poor people can buy the wall mount for their 60 inch tv at a fair price. and weren't they for a time thinking of letting shoppers act like the local  delivery service? ie.. i drive the package from the local walmart to the local customer in my car. gee i'm at walmart already and i can make $1 dropping this package off on the way home. stupid idea imho but anyway.
 
2013-10-23 08:01:02 AM  
Oh no! How dare they want to make money. The government should take it over.
 
2013-10-23 08:03:16 AM  
A looot of people passionately defending a large internet corporation in here. But I'm sure Amazon's massive size will never become a problem. They're different, afterall. Just like eBay was different. And Apple. And Facebook. And Google.

And I'm sure they're spending billions on new data centers just because they like you and want you to be able to listen to your music on the go.
 
2013-10-23 08:37:43 AM  
I do not think there is anything even vaguely similar between JCPenney and Amazon.
 
2013-10-23 09:00:56 AM  
Lets see, JC Penny's business went in the toilet when they decided to stop having sales and go to an "every day low price" model. Amazon raised the buying amount for free shipping from an absurdly low $25 by $10. Yes subby, those two are exactly the same.
 
2013-10-23 09:02:56 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Like the original post said, we'll be waiting for you here in the 21st Century whenever you feel like joining us.


I have Netflix like a normal person and I'm not so impatient that I can't wait for super saver.

I am also not outraged that it will cost me $10 more for super saver. I don't really understand the concern.
 
2013-10-23 09:07:30 AM  
Something I've noticed with Amazon's free super saver shipping is, around the holidays they ship it immediately anyway. I've seen this the last two xmas', in fact last year I ordered something on the 22nd, it wasn't a gift and I fully expected it sometime after xmas, next thing I know it was at my door xmas eve.

I don't know what Amazons mark-up is, but I guarantee they lose money on those free shipping orders as well as most prime users.
 
2013-10-23 09:15:46 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Something I've noticed with Amazon's free super saver shipping is, around the holidays they ship it immediately anyway. I've seen this the last two xmas', in fact last year I ordered something on the 22nd, it wasn't a gift and I fully expected it sometime after xmas, next thing I know it was at my door xmas eve.

I don't know what Amazons mark-up is, but I guarantee they lose money on those free shipping orders as well as most prime users.


No way at all. Prime is a cash cow for them. They could offer it free and still turn a profit off of it. It significantly increases how much money people spend on the site per year.

Also the movie and tv selection IS getting good. I like it particularly for BBC history shows, and it works great on the PS3.

And yea, their customer service is fantastic. When I lived in New Orleans, someone stole my packages off my porch one day (I suspect the meth addict my neighbor was dating.) Amazon had replacements out in 24 hours, no questions asked which was a lot more than I was expecting. Thought I'd at least have to fill out some forms or something.
 
2013-10-23 09:45:45 AM  
I had no idea there was a student discount for Prime. I work full time, but am going to night school for an accounting degree. I love reading, but my local library doesn't have a great selection of ebooks.  Prime would be worth it for me at 39 bucks just to check out some books every year, not to mention all the other benefits.

Thanks guys!
 
2013-10-23 09:56:52 AM  
Little annoyed right now at Amazon. Was supposed to have a package delivered Monday. Supposedly they tried to deliver at 8:30pm to my (locked) apt building. My roomate was home, so I doubt they bothered to buzz. Now my shipping status says to contact the company. fark that - try to deliver again, drop it off w my management office or be like fedex ups and usps and just deliver it. Or contact me and let me know you weren't able to deliver. Not my job to track you down to do your job. If they don't do anything today I plan to complain to amazon.

Prime shipping but its some new program where they use "local" companies.
 
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