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(Joystiq)   Article: "What do you do when you're away from World of Warcraft?" Readjusting to a social life among the living conspicuously absent   (wow.joystiq.com) divider line 67
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2013-10-22 05:19:41 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, I got married.
 
2013-10-22 05:22:28 PM

qorkfiend: I don't know about the rest of you, I got married.


Here here!
 
2013-10-22 05:23:32 PM
I've been off WoW for a couple of years now. I hardly ever miss it, and playing with my kids is more fun anyway.
 
2013-10-22 05:30:16 PM
Social life? How about we start with baby steps, like natural light?
 
2013-10-22 05:32:37 PM

Arkanaut: Social life? How about we start with baby steps, like natural light?


The warm glow of your monitor is similar to natural light...
 
2013-10-22 05:37:05 PM
So many people are quitting that game now i have to wonder if Blizz paid for this article. But maybe the guy writing it is just really out of touch.
 
2013-10-22 05:42:33 PM
I used to play WoW.  Stopped a few months after cataclysm came out.  Druid changes blah blah blah.  Anyway I played global agenda for a bit and in general tried out other games.  Can't say I miss WoW particularly.  Cataclysm was pretty lackluster in my opinion.
 
2013-10-22 05:43:19 PM

hammer85: qorkfiend: I don't know about the rest of you, I got married.

Here here!


Yep, got remarried
Got full custody of my son from my ex-wife
Got appointed to my County Planning and Zoning Commission
Got promoted at the fire department

Life is good
 
2013-10-22 05:45:40 PM
Came back in February after taking off a few years due my mouse thumb becoming locked and needing surgery. Was thinking of writing about the experience, as well as testing out my hand.

Played for a few months, and realized aside from healing (monks are fun) and getting transmog outfits, really wasn't missing much. As folks wave the e-peens on downing bosses and getting new pants ... to quote the waitress in the Terminator, "Look at it this way: in a hundred years, who's gonna care?"

/looking for a new job or freelance assignments, hitting the gym in 26 minutes, and trying out the new restaurants that have popped up and about in the neighborhood
//also, f--k carpal tunnel injuries and hand inflammations
 
2013-10-22 05:54:51 PM
I haven't played in month.  The Kung Fu pandas just aren't interesting.
 
2013-10-22 05:58:11 PM
I've been WoW-free for about 4 years now.  I cancelled my sub when I moved into my house, as I was going to be without internet for a while, and I never felt the need to re-up.

Not that it helps much, as the money I used to spend on WoW has gone into purchasing other games.  I have a backlog of PC games that, if printed out, could stretch to the moon.
 
2013-10-22 06:21:50 PM

Arkanaut: Social life? How about we start with baby steps, like natural light?


Natural Light is nasty, I'd rather drink Budweiser.
 
2013-10-22 06:23:04 PM

HeartBurnKid: I've been WoW-free for about 4 years now.  I cancelled my sub when I moved into my house, as I was going to be without internet for a while, and I never felt the need to re-up.

Not that it helps much, as the money I used to spend on WoW has gone into purchasing other games.  I have a backlog of PC games that, if printed out, could stretch to the moon.


Which, incidentally, is a great PC game
 
2013-10-22 06:30:32 PM

HeartBurnKid: I've been WoW-free for about 4 years now.  I cancelled my sub when I moved into my house, as I was going to be without internet for a while, and I never felt the need to re-up.

Not that it helps much, as the money I used to spend on WoW has gone into purchasing other games.  I have a backlog of PC games that, if printed out, could stretch to the moon.


One of these days, Alice!
 
2013-10-22 06:33:43 PM
Planning farking *backstories* for your alts? Jesus.
 
2013-10-22 06:42:12 PM

DoubleEcho88: Planning farking *backstories* for your alts? Jesus.


Have to admit, I used to do that when I played City of Heroes.  But then, it was kind of fun to sit down and say, "OK, this guy's a fugitive from Louisiana who's being ridden by a voodoo loa" and "OK, this guy's a corporate robot from a dystopian future who's come back to stop his future from ever happening."  I guess I'm not invested enough in WoW's lore to have gotten that deep into it when I was playing that.

/superheroes are easy to make backstory for
//just decide what you think is really awesome at the moment, and amp it up to 11
 
2013-10-22 06:45:04 PM
People still play WoW? I thought they all moved to Second Life.
 
2013-10-22 06:46:10 PM
So, because I'm stuck not playing WoW when I wish I could be playing WoW, I'm immersing myself in the game in other ways. These include things like researching transmog gear, meticulously planning out new alts (including names, backstories, and leveling routes), wistfully reading my friends' accounts of guild raiding progress, and some text-based RP with friends.

What the fark?  Really?  I can see researching classes, gear, whatnot.  Stuff you can do while you're waiting for your PvP queue or crafting.  And I have talked WoW outside of WoW, with actual people, in a social setting - strangest was discussing idiots in battlegrounds while clothes shopping with a friend (women be hardcore yo).  To wax obsessive is fun for a while, but draining over a long time.  Sounds like this gal needs some balance.

Only things I miss about WoW are the holiday week diversions.
 
2013-10-22 06:51:48 PM

qorkfiend: I don't know about the rest of you, I got married.


Same, 6 years here now.

I used to be really into on-line RPG's. Started with EQ, then did AC, DaoC, COH, EQ2 and finally finished up with WoW. In order to put it into context, I wasn't just someone who played a lot, I was one of those wankers running around 3 days after release in whatever the best available gear was and lording his maximum level flavor of the month exploit fueled character over the rest of you whacking away at sheeps with wooden sticks for biscuits and copper pieces.

You know the type, that's me. /waves

Now, I've been away from these games for years now and the distance has led to me try to discover what it was that I liked about them and why they lost their hold over me. If I had to bullet point it I would say something like this:

Enjoyed:
- Social aspect.
- Exploring
- Finding stuff people didn't know about
- Breaking down game mechanics to seek out advantages.
- Being demonstratively "better" at it than the majority of players.

Did not Enjoy:
- Quickly run out of new stuff to learn.
- Discovering that exploration has a (often very low) content cap.
- No sense of permanence or change outside of your own characters progression.
- Limited ways that you can affect the game, or demonstrate agency in the game (primarily this is just combat and the effects are erased when the next respawn happens)

Some games have done this better than others, but I find that frankly once you manage to break yourself of the "reward cycle" addiction that people love to opine about when it comes to these games, under the hood there STILL isn't very much there. Basically they haven't really gone anywhere as a genre in the last 15 years.

Think about that - 15 years. Can we honestly say that these games have changed much since UO or EQ hit the shelves? If anything, they've homogenized so much that they are practically stifled or innovation.

It would take something quite radical from the standard fare that people are serving today to draw me back into the MMORPG scene.


Anyway, all that being said, whenever I see someone like the article writer lament being away/without their MMORPG drug of choice, I just have the urge to pat them on the head like you would a small child. The sentiment being - someday kiddo, you'll grow up and realize how utterly non-interesting this all really is.
 
2013-10-22 06:52:28 PM
Hi, I'm Chuck and I'm a WoW Addict. I've been clean and sober since Cata 4.2 in 2011.  What did I do while away from WoW?
Saved my marriage and lost 30 pounds, that's about it.
 
2013-10-22 07:00:32 PM

TwistedFark: Think about that - 15 years. Can we honestly say that these games have changed much since UO or EQ hit the shelves? If anything, they've homogenized so much that they are practically stifled or innovation.


Eve Online has done pretty well keeping fresh and moving into user-driven content.

But yeah, the standard fantasy MMO has become something of a "known" product.  What works and what doesn't is pretty well-established, and how to make money off of it.  There's little financial benefit to further experimentation at this point, so people only do it from pure artistic drives.

Basically the same as First-Person Shooters.  They're all pretty much the same because everyone knows what works.
 
2013-10-22 07:01:14 PM

fusillade762: Arkanaut: Social life? How about we start with baby steps, like natural light?

Natural Light is nasty, I'd rather drink Budweiser.


Keystone is ok in a pinch
 
2013-10-22 07:02:56 PM
My wife and I met on WoW 4 1/2 years ago. We switched to Guild Wars 2 this July. Never looking back.
 
2013-10-22 07:03:13 PM
I left after Cata, but recently signed back on, holy crap had things changed.  To the point where I didn't want to relearn new shiate so I haven't been back.
 
2013-10-22 07:16:12 PM
I'm not sure but when I was playing the Cataclysm expansion (back when I was still playing the game), I may have been the only player ever to survive Deathwing being in my zone. As soon as the sky went blood red I knew what that meant. Not wanting to rez (getting an Achievement for it wasn't worth it), I headed as deep as I could into one of the cellars of a ruined Dwarven house and waited out the mayhem above.
 
2013-10-22 07:18:16 PM
I haven't seriously played since BC.  I tried the 10 day teaser that included Cataclysm, but it sucked.

Now, I play Rift.

I did just learn a few days ago WoW did away with the talent trees supposedly?  Why?

Rift is fun, but the chat is awful, worse than Barrens chat ever was
 
2013-10-22 07:18:25 PM
Never played it.  I've certainly been through the ringer with game addictions.  Now I really don't play any games at all.  Happier for it, to be honest.
 
2013-10-22 07:34:37 PM
After I quit WoW cold-turkey I promised myself that I wouldn't get addicted to another video game until Star Citizen comes out, and thus far most of the newer MMOs I have tried made that job surprisingly easy.
 
2013-10-22 07:45:45 PM
I retired my moonkin just after firelands ended. Instead I started raiding a girlfriend now wife.
 
2013-10-22 08:33:07 PM

J. Frank Parnell: So many people are quitting that game now i have to wonder if Blizz paid for this article. But maybe the guy writing it is just really out of touch.


Sarah Pine sounds like a woman's name.

Also, mark me up in the crowd that says Cataclysm helped in killing WoW. The way affliction warlocks work post WotLK sucks, and I miss blood dps spec as a death knight.
 
2013-10-22 08:33:13 PM
...I'm the only one playing SWTOR, huh?

/I mean...it's Star Wars...
 
2013-10-22 08:36:43 PM

blackminded: ...I'm the only one playing SWTOR, huh?

/I mean...it's Star Wars...


I got bored on Alderaan.

That, and having to pay to hide a head slot, among other things?  Why even bother going F2P?

//They're making money hand over fist.
 
2013-10-22 08:45:02 PM
I'm very happy to have quit. I fear when everquest next comes out, Mrs. Fly and I will be absent from everything for a long while.
 
2013-10-22 09:22:54 PM

meat0918: I haven't seriously played since BC.  I tried the 10 day teaser that included Cataclysm, but it sucked.

Now, I play Rift.

I did just learn a few days ago WoW did away with the talent trees supposedly?  Why?

Rift is fun, but the chat is awful, worse than Barrens chat ever was


Because everyone took the exact same talents anyway, and it always boiled down to "put the last few points wherever you want". So they baked in the things that people were always taking by default, and made the talent system into 6 ranks of 3 talents each, where each rank was vaguely themed. Like one rank would be movement talents, another would be utility, another would be a power increase, etc. Certain talents are now better for certain situations or certain playstyles and you can swap talents when out of combat by using a consumable. (So you change the one you want, like swapping glyphs instead of resetting your entire talent choice.)

There was a vocal population who complained about the loss of the trees, but honestly, when every Resto druid specced into the same talents, what was the point?
 
2013-10-22 09:32:42 PM

Practical_Draconian: Played for a few months, and realized aside from healing (monks are fun)


Monk healing is the best!  It's too bad there's very few people worth healing.
 
2013-10-22 09:40:04 PM
I'm always away from WoW. I've never played.

Oh, people offered to buy me a few free months. And then that "play until level 10 free" thing came out, and friends began harassing me again. It just seems like a job. "I can't hang out tonight," they'd say. "I have to go raid." They would use words like  need toand  have to while describing something that's supposed to be a hobby. One of my knucklehead friends even spent real money to buy fake in-game money from a "farmer."

Fudge all that. I can't deal with ma-more-pigs.
 
2013-10-22 09:49:48 PM

blackminded: ...I'm the only one playing SWTOR, huh?

/I mean...it's Star Wars...


I still play.  Don't raid, but have fun in flashpoints.  Trying one of each class.  Just finished Chapter 3 on my Warrior last night - don't care for melee classes, but got sucked into the story.  Minor spoiler: at that one point with the 2 robots (you know which if you played it), I laughed at how easy it was (even at level 43) and light sided, because forgiving abject failure is a far better method to demonstrate dishonor.  Not that I didn't wear out my ESC key choosing the dark side choice, escape, and doing it again.

meat0918: blackminded: ...I'm the only one playing SWTOR, huh?

/I mean...it's Star Wars...

I got bored on Alderaan.


Everyone gets bored on Alderaan.
 
2013-10-22 09:50:34 PM

meat0918: I got bored on Alderaan.


Because Alderaan blows.  As does Taris.

meat0918: //They're making money hand over fist.


Mostly from me. I've been subbed since launch. I'm stubborn like that.
 
2013-10-22 09:57:11 PM
I left after about 3 months of mists, around the same time as the rest of my rl friends around the country in the guild. They quit gaming or moved to different ones. We were using it to keep contact with some fun as much as anything.
 
2013-10-22 10:09:32 PM

TwistedFark: Think about that - 15 years. Can we honestly say that these games have changed much since UO or EQ hit the shelves? If anything, they've homogenized so much that they are practically stifled or innovation.


I always thought Guild Wars had an interesting take on the genre in that it was kinda like a collectible card game where you could only have so many skills equipped at one time and you had to figure out which combinations worked with your play style.

/digging Borderlands 2 atm
 
2013-10-22 11:11:57 PM
fusillade762:

/digging Borderlands 2 atm

Which character?  I ask because Gearbox did a nice job nerfing Zero last month in case you haven't played him yet.
 
2013-10-22 11:13:36 PM
I got a job at a game company and it's like being a baker going into a donut shop. It just isn't as absorbing as it used to be.
 
2013-10-22 11:29:04 PM

Flappyhead: fusillade762:

/digging Borderlands 2 atm

Which character?  I ask because Gearbox did a nice job nerfing Zero last month in case you haven't played him yet.


Highest level is a 51 Commando. But I also have a 26 Zer0. Haven't gotten to the Kunai thing yet, but I know what you're talking about.
 
2013-10-22 11:29:22 PM
Get over it Blizz.

We're gone and we aren't coming back.

Ads on Fark are a waste of resources.
 
2013-10-23 12:24:57 AM
I sometimes think about my favourite alt, just abandoned there in downtown Ironforge, with nothing to grind. Sure, he is wearing extreme PVP combat gear & could regal passersby with tales of his daring, prowess and bravery, but as the months passed and the new patches came online, he began to wonder if I was ever coming back. The armaments which were once his pride became outdated and common. His exploits were by then ordinary and as the levels rose, the Pandas arrived, he knew he would never tank a raid ever again, never capture another flag. I like to imagine he settled down, got a job at the auction house, met a nice dwarfette up-and-comer in the NPC business, and together they just...live, man.
 
2013-10-23 12:33:25 AM

TwistedFark: "reward cycle"


I have been working to implement reward cycles into my real life.
Micro goals and achvments as a method to get more things done.
(yes, if I could have gotten things done before in my life, I never would have played any games or wasted time on fark.)

By decomposing any problem or tasks into smaller easily achieved goals, it can engage the "reward cycle". Which is quite nice when it works.
 
2013-10-23 12:36:11 AM

FoxKelfonne: There was a vocal population who complained about the loss of the trees, but honestly, when every Resto druid specced into the same talents, what was the point?


THIS!
It saves a lot of wear and tear worrying about nothing.
 
2013-10-23 12:50:43 AM
Kerbal and DayZ.

/minecraft as well.
 
2013-10-23 05:17:13 AM

Fear the Clam: People still play WoW? I thought they all moved to Second Life.


Nah, apparently everybody's over that now, too.
 
2013-10-23 07:14:45 AM
Stopped at Wrath of the Lich King.  Sure, I miss it some times, but I pretty much done with anything Blizzard related (I don't feel like supporting their anti-consumer policies).

Between Kerbal, GOG.com, and now Crusader Kings 2, I am good for a while.
 
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