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(USGS)   Earthquake Swarm continues in Oklahoma. In other news: EARTHQUAKE SWARM   (usgs.gov) divider line 51
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2013-10-22 04:15:04 PM  
Earthquakes AND tornadoes?

Why would any one want to live anywhere else?
 
2013-10-22 04:16:59 PM  
Elizabeth, it's the big one!
 
2013-10-22 04:20:39 PM  
Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.
 
2013-10-22 04:22:18 PM  
What the frack?!?
 
2013-10-22 04:26:00 PM  
Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?
 
2013-10-22 04:26:05 PM  
I was wondering what all the buzz was about...
 
2013-10-22 04:29:04 PM  
Tremors?
 
2013-10-22 04:29:46 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.


QuakeSwarm, about a furious swarm of earthquakes (starring Steve Gutenberg), will be followed up by SwarmQuake (starring Paris Hilton), about an earthquake that cracks open the ground and releases swarms of wasps.

The trilogy will come to a head with the epic QuakeSwarm vs SwarmQuake, starring Jaleel White.
 
2013-10-22 04:36:20 PM  
I am sure that in no way drilling through, and lubricating, fault lines could be an issue and anyone who suggests such is clearly wrong so it should not be considered in any fashion.
 
2013-10-22 04:43:13 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.


SharkQuake?  The ground shakes, splits open, and sharks pop out of the cracks to eat people?
 
2013-10-22 04:48:00 PM  

DemonEater: Pants full of macaroni!!: Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.

SharkQuake?  The ground shakes, splits open, and sharks pop out of the cracks to eat people?


Sharks from an ancient, sealed underground sea: MEGALODONS.
 
2013-10-22 04:50:24 PM  

Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?


meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?


OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf
 
2013-10-22 05:00:44 PM  
Someone has angered Lord Kimboat and the lava men.
 
2013-10-22 05:02:44 PM  

Calmamity: Earthquakes AND tornadoes?

Why would any one want to live anywhere else?



My sister likes the cheap land (~10 acres located 5 miles from Norman, OK) and the fact that she and her husband were able to find decent jobs there.  Apparently making 6 figures in a low COLA appeals to some people.

/she's as liberal as I am
//pro-choice and all that
///she doesn't advertise her liberal views, though
 
2013-10-22 05:06:20 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!


True, but fracking produces a large amount of waste water which then requires disposal. I guess it's the EPA's fault for not letting the drilling companies just dump that water into a nearby river.
 
2013-10-22 05:12:49 PM  
For heaven''s sake, it's an earthquake SWARM.  The SyFy movie won't have sharks.  It will clearly need to be Africanized honey bees.
 
2013-10-22 05:19:58 PM  
I'm in OKC drinking right now.  The only quakes I have felt in the last hour have been Coney Island derived.


/outstanding Greek spaghetti btw
 
2013-10-22 05:25:30 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

True, but fracking produces a large amount of waste water which then requires disposal. I guess it's the EPA's fault for not letting the drilling companies just dump that water into a nearby river.


I loled.

Also, Sharknado swarmquake where a Quakeswarm releases a bunch of sharknados and 3 headed megasharks.
 
2013-10-22 05:26:17 PM  
All right whose been fracking?
 
2013-10-22 05:49:19 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!



The USGS and CU disagree, scream away.

When the Wilzetta [fault] mysteriously and violently awakened, Keranen wanted to know why. So she partnered with scientists from the USGS and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. The morning after the initial foreshock, Keranen's team scrambled to install three seismometers around Prague. They did so in time to capture the quake system in unprecedented detail. She says, "We got this beautiful image of the fault plane." Within a week, her team and other scientists had placed a total of 25 devices around the fault zone. Now, having completed a yearlong study, (published in the journal Geology), Keranen's research indicates the Oklahoma earthquakes were likely attributable to underground injection of wastewater derived from "dewatering," separating crude oil from the soupy brine reaped through a drilling technique that allows previously inaccessible oil to be pumped up. "Pretty much everybody who looks at our data accepts that these events were likely caused by injection,"
Keranen concludes. Source.
 
2013-10-22 05:52:00 PM  

Felgraf: I am sure that in no way drilling through, and lubricating, fault lines could be an issue and anyone who suggests such is clearly wrong so it should not be considered in any fashion.


But.... we require more vespene gas.
 
2013-10-22 05:56:36 PM  

sabreWulf07: Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!


The USGS and CU disagree, scream away.

When the Wilzetta [fault] mysteriously and violently awakened, Keranen wanted to know why. So she partnered with scientists from the USGS and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. The morning after the initial foreshock, Keranen's team scrambled to install three seismometers around Prague. They did so in time to capture the quake system in unprecedented detail. She says, "We got this beautiful image of the fault plane." Within a week, her team and other scientists had placed a total of 25 devices around the fault zone. Now, having completed a yearlong study, (published in the journal Geology), Keranen's research indicates the Oklahoma earthquakes were likely attributable to underground injection of wastewater derived from "dewatering," separating crude oil from the soupy brine reaped through a drilling technique that allows previously inaccessible oil to be pumped up. "Pretty much everybody who looks at our data accepts that these events were likely caused by injection,"
Keranen concludes. Source.


Fracking is intentionally breaking a rock (ie, creating a NEW rupture).  Disposal may open up old fractures, or help activate a dormant fault line depending on pressures.  Of course a competent regulatory agency would set those thresholds for the oil companies to follow...

In other words people come on here and say ZOMG Fracking!  When a disposal well is not a frack job.  In other words I know what I am talking about.
 
2013-10-22 06:20:42 PM  

Felgraf: DemonEater: Pants full of macaroni!!: Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.

SharkQuake?  The ground shakes, splits open, and sharks pop out of the cracks to eat people?

Sharks from an ancient, sealed underground sea: MEGALODONS.


Megalaodon Earthquake Swarmnado VS. Croctopus. Does it matter who wins, if we still lose?
 
2013-10-22 06:27:54 PM  
Quakenado?

Ugh! Just had a horrible vision of a deeply stupid movie about a tornado full of rabid Quakers*.

Now I feel all dirty.


*No, they wouldn't bite people. Quakers don't bite. Any foaming at the mouth would be attributed to Jebediah's Homemade Whisker Cream being a bit off.
 
2013-10-22 06:34:22 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf


Clearly it's the product of the unholy union of genetically modified crops, climate change, and the shutdown.
 
2013-10-22 06:41:21 PM  

asciibaron: Elizabeth, it's the big one!


Sharknadoquake
 
2013-10-22 06:59:46 PM  
Representative of the unwashed masses:

So, let me get this straight (I've gone and omitted the explanatory parentheticals):

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures ..., if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers ... head ... and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

So it has nothing to do with fracking, because waste water from fracking is disposed of at lower pressures. But if it is from waste-water disposal, it's because there was a pre-existing fault.

And somehow that means activating that fault by the injection of waste water is totally not the fault of the those fracking. Because the fault was already there. Even though the fault wasn't doing anything until it was activated when the aquifer's head was raised by the injection of waste water.

Did I get that right?

/I know next to nothing about fracking, so I am not arguing against it
//just making sure I understand your somewhat-ranty post
 
2013-10-22 07:17:56 PM  
Its the chthonians living underneath Oklahoma causing all these problems.  They're under the control of cultists who have a copy of the Necronomicon stolen from an offshoot of the Aum Shurinko.
 
2013-10-22 07:26:44 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf


So, there's nothing wrong with fracking, it's just the scumbags who run the oil companies that are the problem.
 
2013-10-22 07:27:13 PM  

eyeq360: Its the chthonians living underneath Oklahoma causing all these problems.  They're under the control of cultists who have a copy of the Necronomicon stolen from an offshoot of the Aum Shurinko.


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
 
2013-10-22 09:03:54 PM  
Just frack OK down 10 ft, fill it in and don't look back...
 
2013-10-22 09:23:34 PM  

reillan: eyeq360: Its the chthonians living underneath Oklahoma causing all these problems.  They're under the control of cultists who have a copy of the Necronomicon stolen from an offshoot of the Aum Shurinko.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn


I see that you want to be eaten first when the Great Old Ones break free of their tombs when Nodens falls asleep, but I am way ahead of you.  The corpse city of R'lyeh will arise from the deep and the waters will turn red from the blood of all of the victims.  Repent from your silly gods and worship the true Gods!
Ia!  Ia!  Cthulhu fhtagn!
 
2013-10-22 09:34:22 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: sabreWulf07: Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!


The USGS and CU disagree, scream away.

When the Wilzetta [fault] mysteriously and violently awakened, Keranen wanted to know why. So she partnered with scientists from the USGS and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. The morning after the initial foreshock, Keranen's team scrambled to install three seismometers around Prague. They did so in time to capture the quake system in unprecedented detail. She says, "We got this beautiful image of the fault plane." Within a week, her team and other scientists had placed a total of 25 devices around the fault zone. Now, having completed a yearlong study, (published in the journal Geology), Keranen's research indicates the Oklahoma earthquakes were likely attributable to underground injection of wastewater derived from "dewatering," separating crude oil from the soupy brine reaped through a drilling technique that allows previously inaccessible oil to be pumped up. "Pretty much everybody who looks at our data accepts that these events were likely caused by injection,"
Keranen concludes. Source.

Fracking is intentionally breaking a rock (ie, creating a NEW rupture).  Disposal may open up old fractures, or help activate a dormant fault line depending on pressures.  Of course a competent regulatory agency would set those thresholds for the oil companies to follow...

In other words people come on here and say ZOMG Fracking!  When a disposal well is not a frack job.  In other words I know what I am talking about.


I would like to ask you if poor placement or management of the disposal well would lead to migration of the well's contents? Since you do seem to know what you are talking about.
 
2013-10-22 09:37:45 PM  

NEEDZ

MOURE

GRAFIKS

 
2013-10-22 09:38:00 PM  

Brick-House: asciibaron: Elizabeth, it's the big one!

Sharknadoquake


...topus

...on a plane
 
2013-10-22 09:40:00 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf


Fracturing fluid management is clearly part of Fracking.
 
2013-10-22 09:44:28 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: sabreWulf07: Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!


The USGS and CU disagree, scream away.

When the Wilzetta [fault] mysteriously and violently awakened, Keranen wanted to know why. So she partnered with scientists from the USGS and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. The morning after the initial foreshock, Keranen's team scrambled to install three seismometers around Prague. They did so in time to capture the quake system in unprecedented detail. She says, "We got this beautiful image of the fault plane." Within a week, her team and other scientists had placed a total of 25 devices around the fault zone. Now, having completed a yearlong study, (published in the journal Geology), Keranen's research indicates the Oklahoma earthquakes were likely attributable to underground injection of wastewater derived from "dewatering," separating crude oil from the soupy brine reaped through a drilling technique that allows previously inaccessible oil to be pumped up. "Pretty much everybody who looks at our data accepts that these events were likely caused by injection,"
Keranen concludes. Source.

Fracking is intentionally breaking a rock (ie, creating a NEW rupture).  Disposal may open up old fractures, or help activate a dormant fault line depending on pressures.  Of course a competent regulatory agency would set those thresholds for the oil companies to follow...

In other words people come on here and say ZOMG Fracking!  When a disposal well is not a frack job.  In other words I know what I am talking about.


Also contamination from flow back is a real thing regardless of what you may want to believe and it has nothing to do with a Fracturing Fluid disposal well. So go ahead and scream.
 
2013-10-22 09:50:52 PM  

Rozotorical: Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf

Fracturing fluid management is clearly part of Fracking.


But fluid disposal isn't restricted to just fracking. There's produced water from conventional oil and gas wells. There's waste-water from other industries.

All in all, fluid disposal should be kept separate from fracking, both conceptually and in regulations. If you set regulations for disposal wells as based on just frack water, you miss some other stuff that might cause problems.
 
2013-10-22 09:52:00 PM  
Earthquake Swarm Vs Arachnoquake Vs Sharknado: The Reckoning
 
2013-10-22 10:01:28 PM  

GoodHomer: Rozotorical: Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf

Fracturing fluid management is clearly part of Fracking.

But fluid disposal isn't restricted to just fracking. There's produced water from conventional oil and gas wells. There's waste-water from other industries.

All in all, fluid disposal should be kept separate from fracking, both conceptually and in regulations. If you set regulations for disposal wells as based on just frack water, you miss some other stuff that might cause problems.


Why would you remove disposal of Fracturing Fluid conceptually from Fracking? You do not remove it conceptually from any power generating plant? Why would not regulate it as part of Fracking and as part of disposal wells? Every other industry has that same model and when actually enforced it works well.
 
2013-10-22 10:12:01 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Scriptwriters for SyFy seen furiously taking notes.


Scriptwriters?  WHAT scriptwriters?  Pretty sure they come up with a stupid title and the actors just sort of improvise their lines according to a general plot outline provided by the director (or producer, if there is no director).

And I'm being generous in that assessment.
 
2013-10-22 10:20:26 PM  

Rozotorical: GoodHomer: Rozotorical: Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf

Fracturing fluid management is clearly part of Fracking.

But fluid disposal isn't restricted to just fracking. There's produced water from conventional oil and gas wells. There's waste-water from other industries.

All in all, fluid disposal should be kept separate from fracking, both conceptually and in regulations. If you set regulations for disposal wells as based on just frack water, you miss some other stuff that might cause problems.

Why would you remove disposal of Fracturing Fluid conceptually from Fracking? You do not remove it conceptually from any power generating plant? Why would not regulate it as part of Fracking and as part of disposal wells? Every other industry has that same model and when actually enforced it works well.


Because a disposal well disposes of a whole bunch of stuff, not just fracturing fluid. So, you operate a disposal well under disposal well regulations that take all those other things into account too.

For fracking regulations, you regulate how the fracking fluid is stored before fracking, fracking pressures and other things during fracking, and how it's stored at the wellsite during and after flowback (all of which have their own risks that that require mitigation). Other things can include typical paperwork (including public release of what chemicals are in the frack fluid).

Fracking is a very specific process at a very specific point in the life-cycle of a well. So is drilling. It's far more accurate to put all these things under the umbrella of "oil and gas operations", but that doesn't have the same ring to it that "fracking" does so it's not in the public vernacular.
 
2013-10-22 10:25:52 PM  

GoodHomer: Rozotorical: GoodHomer: Rozotorical: Representative of the unwashed masses: Wellon Dowd: What the frack?!?

meat0918: Didn't we just build a large bioweapons bio-defense research facility out there to replace Fort Detrick?

Or was that near Kansas City???

//Fracking is bad, mmkay?

OH FOR FARK SAKE!!!  FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!

/hydrogeologist
//should really switch to decaf

Fracturing fluid management is clearly part of Fracking.

But fluid disposal isn't restricted to just fracking. There's produced water from conventional oil and gas wells. There's waste-water from other industries.

All in all, fluid disposal should be kept separate from fracking, both conceptually and in regulations. If you set regulations for disposal wells as based on just frack water, you miss some other stuff that might cause problems.

Why would you remove disposal of Fracturing Fluid conceptually from Fracking? You do not remove it conceptually from any power generating plant? Why would not regulate it as part of Fracking and as part of disposal wells? Every other industry has that same model and when actually enforced it works well.

Because a disposal well disposes of a whole bunch of stuff, not just fracturing fluid. So, you operate a disposal well under disposal well regulations that take all those other things into account too.

For fracking regulations, you regulate how the fracking fluid is stored before fracking, fracking pressures and other things during fracking, and how it's stored at the wellsite during and after flowback (all of which have their own risks that that require mitigation). Other things can include typical paperwork (including public relea ...


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"FRACK"

\it is fun to say
 
2013-10-22 11:14:33 PM  
I worked for a transport company that hauled various fluids.  We went to one disposal that the company owned and pulled off the water from frac tanks down to the oil at the bottom (frac tanks to those uninformed are an average of 8 ft. tall and hold roughly 500  barrels of fluids give or take 10 barrels) Now normally this fluid would be taken by disposal A and injected back into the ground however this particular place, their well had been sanded off so we had to transport to disposal B.  The guy at disposal B separated any oil in the water (even though we pulled to a certain amount there were traces) and then injected the water into the ground.  I have never seen an injection well at work but from my understanding there are a LOT of them around the central part of Oklahoma.  Not too many down here in my neck of the woods.  Now when I worked at Weatherford in their fracking division, I had no knowledge going in about the process.  I learned over time (and still don't know a whole lot) that the fluids were shot down an encased hole at high pressure usually around 9K PSI.  However any resident geologist here on Fark will tell you that the internal pressure pressing outwards from the Earth's core is many times greater.  The bad thing I could only fathom that the "fracking" process could cause would be if your cementers did a piss poor job and your casing cracked.  Then you have all of those chemicals leaching into the soil and the water table.  In my uneducated observance of this, I would say that when the wire line crew sent down their "gun" and set off explosive charges below ground, that might be the bigger culprit on the cause of the quakes.  There are numerous hits on google showing what happens when a wire line gun fires ABOVE ground.  Sure it is below ground, but those of you here who haven't baked all of your brain cells remember back when the quake hit in 2006 causing the tsunami which killed thousands and thousands of people?  Well the aftershocks from from that quake were felt at the USGS office in Norman, Oklahoma so it would be plausible that explosions set off below ground cause a chain reaction.  Wouldn't that fall under the "for every action there is an equal reaction"?
 
2013-10-23 12:28:02 AM  
God I am so sick of the nerds from this tab blaming everything that's happening in Oklahoma on a stupid made-up word from Battlestar Galactica.
 
2013-10-23 02:25:14 AM  

SpdrJay: God I am so sick of the nerds from this tab blaming everything that's happening in Oklahoma on a stupid made-up word from Battlestar Galactica.


Frak you, you fraking skin job!

// So say we all!
 
2013-10-23 05:02:46 AM  
Or as we call it in Mexico City, Tuesday.

/Puny Merkins
 
2013-10-23 06:01:17 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: sabreWulf07: Representative of the unwashed masses: OH FOR FARK SAKE!!! FRACKING DOES NOT EQUAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL!!!

Wastewater disposal is done at lower pressures (ie. less than frack pressure), if it's because of disposal it's because they are raising an aquifers (wastewater so saline and way too deep for drinking) head (or level) and activating a PRE-EXISTING FAULT

If one more person says FRACK IMMA GONNA SCREAM!!!


The USGS and CU disagree, scream away.

When the Wilzetta [fault] mysteriously and violently awakened, Keranen wanted to know why. So she partnered with scientists from the USGS and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. The morning after the initial foreshock, Keranen's team scrambled to install three seismometers around Prague. They did so in time to capture the quake system in unprecedented detail. She says, "We got this beautiful image of the fault plane." Within a week, her team and other scientists had placed a total of 25 devices around the fault zone. Now, having completed a yearlong study, (published in the journal Geology), Keranen's research indicates the Oklahoma earthquakes were likely attributable to underground injection of wastewater derived from "dewatering," separating crude oil from the soupy brine reaped through a drilling technique that allows previously inaccessible oil to be pumped up. "Pretty much everybody who looks at our data accepts that these events were likely caused by injection,"
Keranen concludes. Source.

Fracking is intentionally breaking a rock (ie, creating a NEW rupture).  Disposal may open up old fractures, or help activate a dormant fault line depending on pressures.  Of course a competent regulatory agency would set those thresholds for the oil companies to follow...

In other words people come on here and say ZOMG Fracking!  When a disposal well is not a frack job.  In other words I know what I am talking about.


Yes, you do. However, you make a distinction without a difference. You are trying to seperate the actual fracking from its direct consequences via a semantic difference, and technically you are correct. Having said that, in most people's minds the disposal of fracking fluids is part of the process of fracking. They consider the whole process whereas your point is that the term fracking should be limited to injection fracturing only, and not any downstream actions. While this point is in fact correct, it is also transparently disingenuous. (Also a geologist, BTW).
 
2013-10-23 06:23:18 AM  
It's graboids.
 
2013-10-23 07:20:24 AM  
God loves us.
 
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