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2013-10-22 12:13:59 PM
Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?
 
2013-10-22 12:18:58 PM
Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.
 
2013-10-22 12:34:17 PM
That is pretty significant if proven to be true and able to vaccinate to prevent.
 
2013-10-22 12:35:57 PM

what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.


Insulin-dependent-because-your-pancreas-is-broken-diabeetus, not stop-ingesting-six-donuts-and-two-liters-of-soda-every-day-you-farking -moron-diabeetus.
 
2013-10-22 12:39:19 PM

BKITU: what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.

Insulin-dependent-because-your-pancreas-is-broken-diabeetus, not stop-ingesting-six-donuts-and-two-liters-of-soda-every-day-you-farking -moron-diabeetus.


Yeah, I get the difference. My dad has type two, but in his case it was beer and candy his whole life.
 
2013-10-22 12:42:25 PM

what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.


I think there can be different triggers, but at it's core, Type-1 is an autoimmune disease where the body says, "f*ck you, pancreas! I don't need none of you no more!" And it realizes far too late that it had something special.
 
2013-10-22 12:44:00 PM
stupid pancreas
 
2013-10-22 01:04:01 PM

miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?


Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...
 
2013-10-22 01:09:08 PM
I have a paternal aunt with type I so I have been following these stories for decades and I feel like nothing ever gets past trials in mice. But hope springs eternal so I'll keep hoping.
 
2013-10-22 01:35:58 PM
Is this legit or one of these science news stories we never hear about again?
 
2013-10-22 01:36:57 PM

what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.


No kidding. Science people get to do all the cool stuff. This is great news. Can the vaccine be mixed into cupcake frosting? Because that would be awesome.
 
2013-10-22 01:37:09 PM
 
2013-10-22 01:37:28 PM

miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?


I can't use a vaccine to murder brown people who don't believe what I believe.
 
2013-10-22 01:37:59 PM

I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...


You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.
 
2013-10-22 01:38:51 PM
seriously though this is great news
 
2013-10-22 01:39:09 PM

what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.


I had a friend who was certain she got the diabeetus after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown. She was active, not overweight, didn't have a terrible diet.

One of her nephews she hung around a lot in his youth also developed it after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown and at around the same age as she did. Maybe there's some dormancy with the virus. Who knows. but evidently she was correct. And btw they're Nordic stock. Doo dooddley doo doo.
 
2013-10-22 01:39:13 PM
i288.photobucket.com

/Someone's going to have to find a new job
 
2013-10-22 01:39:44 PM
Is Jenny McCarthy going to be ok with this?
 
2013-10-22 01:40:37 PM
i171.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-22 01:40:40 PM
Well, I guess that it's coming too late for me,  but I'll be really glad for the world if it works.

Then again, I count myself lucky to be a T1 in a modern world with insulin pumps and glucose meters and not in a world with the whole dying really, really young thing.
 
2013-10-22 01:42:21 PM

what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.


I love my job until I hear about people who get to make a real difference in the world.
 
2013-10-22 01:44:19 PM
Because no one gets pneumonia or the flu anymore
 
2013-10-22 01:47:23 PM

cretinbob: Because no one gets pneumonia or the flu anymore


What an odd comment to make.
 
2013-10-22 01:47:28 PM

Weatherkiss: Is this legit or one of these science news stories we never hear about again?


Pre trial clinical results are a long way from an actual drug. It's not bad news at all, but most potential drugs fail trials, and you don't even start trials unless you already have promising pre trial results. So you may never hear about it again. Or maybe you will.
 
2013-10-22 01:47:40 PM

jst3p: what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.

I love my job until I hear about people who get to make a real difference in the world.


hahaha- I know. I'm all "Woohooo! I made a pivot table!!" and these Finns are all "Woo hoo! I found the cure for Wilfred Brimley's mustache!"
 
2013-10-22 01:50:38 PM
 
2013-10-22 01:51:00 PM
We gonna call it liveabeetus now?
 
2013-10-22 01:51:12 PM

cretinbob: Because no one gets pneumonia or the flu anymore


You do know that it is possible to immunize people from some viral infections, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
 
2013-10-22 01:52:35 PM

Carn: We gonna call it liveabeetus now?


Oh wow, a winrar is you!

If Chris Rock is correct (and I always assume he is) they wont cure it, just find a way to sell you medicine forever. You know how much money there is in the diabeetus game?
 
2013-10-22 01:54:14 PM
That's just sweet.
 
2013-10-22 01:54:16 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa5MrT3yY-I

/oblig

To the Pancreas!


Damn you. That is what I get for walking away without finishing the thread.
 
2013-10-22 01:54:23 PM

Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.


Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk
 
2013-10-22 01:57:07 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk


That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!
 
2013-10-22 01:58:29 PM

jst3p: Carn: We gonna call it liveabeetus now?

Oh wow, a winrar is you!

If Chris Rock is correct (and I always assume he is) they wont cure it, just find a way to sell you medicine forever. You know how much money there is in the diabeetus game?


No Kidding, "Congratulations, you have diabetes!  Now here's the 10 pills you must take every day, you also need to buy these strips, theses needles and this machine and test you're blood 3 times a day!"
 
2013-10-22 01:59:25 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.

I had a friend who was certain she got the diabeetus after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown. She was active, not overweight, didn't have a terrible diet.

One of her nephews she hung around a lot in his youth also developed it after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown and at around the same age as she did. Maybe there's some dormancy with the virus. Who knows. but evidently she was correct. And btw they're Nordic stock. Doo dooddley doo doo.


Those symptoms occur after you islets have shut down but before you are diagnosed. That's your body responding to the elevated levels of sugar in your body.
 
2013-10-22 02:05:04 PM
as a type 1 diabetic it's good to see that a vaccine is being worked on, but for those of us that actually have it, we need a solution as well.
 
2013-10-22 02:08:06 PM

miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?


But only one can deliver Freedom. 80 tons at a time. Aw yeah.
 
2013-10-22 02:11:20 PM

Notabunny: Can the vaccine be mixed into cupcake frosting?


I like the idea of working yourself into Type-2 while curing yourself of Type-1.
 
2013-10-22 02:11:56 PM

soakitincider: as a type 1 diabetic it's good to see that a vaccine is being worked on, but for those of us that actually have it, we need a solution as well.


My daughter has it. One step at a time, they have to identify the cause before they can cure what it causes.
 
2013-10-22 02:13:46 PM

jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk

That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!


Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name
 
2013-10-22 02:15:04 PM
Back in the 1970s, when my father had stomach ulcers, he was told that is was due to lifestyle choices..too much stress and spicy food was 'irritating' his stomach.

This was known as the 'businessman's disease' brought on by stress. Treatment was anti-stress medication, antacids and an extremely bland "white bread and chicken breast". No spices. No Herbs. No  Salt.  The only good thing was the doctor's note to your boss asking him to give you a break or a vacation.

Then in the early 80s, it was found that most ulcers were caused by Helicobacter pylori'

Yes. A bacterium. Fixable with antibiotics.  You rarely  hear about business executives "earning their ulcers" because of their stressful jobs any more.

Science marches on. Let's just hope this is not some scientist 'jumping the gun' before the peer review is done.
 
2013-10-22 02:17:30 PM

Unoriginal_Username: jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk

That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!

Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name


The biggest losers?
Dumfark Dynasty?
Here comes Honey Boom Boom!
The Fatty Whisperer
 
2013-10-22 02:18:41 PM
I have made progress towards developing a vaccine for Rickets and Lupus.

Granted it isn't very much progress. I'm currently in the planning stage. One day I thought "I will cure Rickets and Lupus", and that's about as much as I have gotten so far. I estimate I am about .173% done with a cure. Some progress is better than none.
 
2013-10-22 02:19:08 PM

Unoriginal_Username: jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk

That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!

Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name


Gut Bombers.
 
2013-10-22 02:19:31 PM

happydude45: TheShavingofOccam123: what_now: Diabeetus is caused by a virus? I would never have thought that.

Which is why I work in finance, not science.

I had a friend who was certain she got the diabeetus after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown. She was active, not overweight, didn't have a terrible diet.

One of her nephews she hung around a lot in his youth also developed it after a few days of fever, loss of appetite, feeling rundown and at around the same age as she did. Maybe there's some dormancy with the virus. Who knows. but evidently she was correct. And btw they're Nordic stock. Doo dooddley doo doo.

Those symptoms occur after you islets have shut down but before you are diagnosed. That's your body responding to the elevated levels of sugar in your body.


this.

that feeling bad for a week or so with flu-like symptoms is called 'onset'.  supposedly your body can continue zipping along with fewer and fewer insulin producing islet cells (as either this virus or your own immune system are killing them off)... until you get down to about the last 10 percent...  then suddenly the few remaining cells can't produce enough insulin to keep up with the demand and you suddenly have elevated blood sugar that you've never had before... the malaise and flu-like symptoms are (DKA)  Diabetic ketoacidosis...
 
2013-10-22 02:19:56 PM

jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk

That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!

Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name

The biggest losers?
Dumfark Dynasty?
Here comes Honey Boom Boom!
The Fatty Whisperer


The Real Fat World?
Big (I mean REALLY BIG) Brother?
ASS men?


Teen Mooo Mom?
 
2013-10-22 02:21:07 PM

Genju: Unoriginal_Username: jst3p: Unoriginal_Username: Genju: I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?

It's an interest plan, but those bombs cost money too!  When all is said and done, you're looking at savings of only about 30 million.

Still, a penny saved...

You're not factoring in ammo. Although I did just get a comical image in my head of a B-2 swooping down on fat people riding one of those assistance carts and opening the landing gear to hit them with a wheel.

Think of how easy it would be to do? All the pilot would need to do is type 'Walmart' into google earth. Plotting a flight path would be a cake walk

That would also lower the number of "employed" people making so little they require government assistance. Like a bingo game in an elevator, this is a winner on many levels!

Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name

Gut Bombers.


Toddlers and Tiaras and Thickset?
 
2013-10-22 02:22:51 PM
As long as Lilly doesn't step in and shut it down.
They are making a killing manufacturing and selling insulin and I doubt they will look kindly on loosing that income.
 
2013-10-22 02:25:07 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Turn this into the next reality TV show. I bet we could sell it to Discovery. We just need a catchy name


Jon and Kate plus 80 pounds each
 
2013-10-22 02:26:02 PM

I_Am_Weasel: miss diminutive: Taking the vaccine through a clinical trial would cost some 700 million euros. Some funding is in place from the United States and from Europe, but more is required.

700 million euros: 964 million US dollars

Cost of one B-2 stealth bomber: 735 million dollars

nuff said?

Are you saying we should just bomb people with diabetes and save 231 million dollars!?


I was eating when I read this and very nearly choked to death. Bravo, sir.
 
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