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(The Atlantic)   Reagan speechwriter to the Tea Party: Many of your instincts are right, but you're being manipulated. "Be less gullible"   (theatlantic.com) divider line 118
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2013-10-22 09:50:48 AM
Yeah, good luck with that.  It's all the Teabaggers can do to keep from gobbling up Koch cock on a near hourly basis.
 
2013-10-22 10:10:32 AM
Now hit them with a rolled up newspaper.
 
2013-10-22 10:11:48 AM
blog.eternalvigilance.me
 
2013-10-22 10:15:38 AM
Be less gullible? That's the foundation of this Astoturf. It banks on the gullible as a their raison d'être...
 
2013-10-22 10:21:34 AM
Former moderate Republican to Peggy Noonan: Most of your instincts were wrong to begin with, and even if you are right (which you're not) you are trying to yourself be manipulative.

Also, for the record, most Tea Partiers don't read the Wall Street Journal, they are more the townhall or freerepublic or redstate or pajama mediatypes. And frankly, the echo chamber is closed for business. Joining the Tea Party is like handing in your brain.
 
2013-10-22 10:22:51 AM
RINO.
 
2013-10-22 10:26:57 AM
I would love to send that to my Tea Party family members but it would be ignored.
 
2013-10-22 10:29:55 AM
It's not gullibility it's PATRIOTISM!
 
2013-10-22 10:30:13 AM
Couldn't be more obvious if it came up to you with a sledgehammer and pounded you right in the face with it.
 
2013-10-22 10:30:54 AM
It's nice that American politics have reached the point where you can look at what republicans say, do the opposite, and have things turn out pretty good.  That's a clarity that most countries don't get.
 
2013-10-22 10:31:55 AM
In fairness to the teabaggers, Noonan hasn't been right about much in 30 years.
 
2013-10-22 10:32:12 AM
The phrase "setting the bar low" comes to mind, but then again, in a hoveround that bar might as well be six feet high.
 
2013-10-22 10:32:28 AM

HotWingConspiracy: In fairness to the teabaggers, Noonan hasn't been right about much in 30 years.


Hm.
 
2013-10-22 10:32:30 AM

make me some tea: I would love to send that to my Tea Party family members but it would be ignored.


...which is also one of the points the author of TFA makes.

God help us all.
 
2013-10-22 10:33:05 AM
But Ayn promised:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-22 10:33:10 AM
Is "many of your instincts are right" code for "I too am upset that the current occupant of the White House is a gentleman of the dark-skinned persuasion"?
 
2013-10-22 10:34:00 AM
speechwriter is trolling

"your instincts are right" - the Tea Party's instincts tell them everyone is against them, even the formerly-conservative-but-now-RINO

added to

"be less gullible" - meaning view with added suspicion

good - what they need is justification for even more paranoia
 
2013-10-22 10:36:47 AM
You can't rape the willing.
 
2013-10-22 10:40:17 AM
Arkanaut's advice to conscientious citizens around the country: don't listen to Peggy Noonan.
 
2013-10-22 10:40:43 AM
I expect that telling idiots to less gullible will not be very effective.
 
2013-10-22 10:41:57 AM
The woman with the "gut feeling" that Romney was going to be president in 2012 told fellow Republicans to be less gullible. That's the joke.
 
2013-10-22 10:41:57 AM
Time up update the "enemies of the Republicans list" with yet another Reagan veteran.
 
2013-10-22 10:42:51 AM

parasol: speechwriter is trolling

"your instincts are right" - the Tea Party's instincts tell them everyone is against them, even the formerly-conservative-but-now-RINO

added to

"be less gullible" - meaning view with added suspicion

good - what they need is justification for even more paranoia


This is Peggy Noonan; she isn't trolling, she just hasn't had a coherent thought in at least two decades.
 
2013-10-22 10:44:13 AM
Right, and you can include Noonan in that assessment.
 
2013-10-22 10:44:39 AM
Tea partiers are mostly made up of right-wing Christians. While I don't deny that being less gullible would be good for them... I just don't see it happening. These people are defined by the gullibility.  You've got to remember that these are just simple people. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
 
2013-10-22 10:45:26 AM
A teabagger will hear, "your instincts are right", as, "a government shutdown was the way to go."
A teabagger will hear, "be less gullible", as,  "don't listen to the libral media next time and stick to your guns."
 
2013-10-22 10:46:00 AM

make me some tea: I would love to send that to my Tea Party family members but it would be ignored.


All you have to do is retitle and forward it to yourself several times, then when you send it as "FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:FW: Reagan," they will assume its been vetted (not that they'll know what vetted means, but if it was forwarded that many times, it must be truth)
 
2013-10-22 10:47:16 AM

BMFPitt: I expect that telling idiots to less gullible will not be very effective.


If he could get a spot on Fox News it might work but relying on them to read this article in The Atlantic, not gonna happen.
 
2013-10-22 10:49:52 AM
Many of your instincts are right

No, no they aren't.  But if your total qualifications are "I wrote speeches simple enough for someone with brain damage to recite them", I can't expect much from you to begin with.
 
2013-10-22 10:53:17 AM

make me some tea: I would love to send that to my Tea Party family members but it would be ignored.


I've banged my head against that wall enough to know it's damn near impossible to get through.
 
2013-10-22 10:55:01 AM
Be less gullible? If you take that away from them, then all they'll have left is impotent rage.
 
2013-10-22 10:58:17 AM

MFAWG: You can't rape the willing.


Hello? Uncle Sam? It's Tea Party
I'm downtown near the capitol. I'm drunk and I'm about to be raped...pick me up in about 45 minutes ok?


/ripped off from an American Dad episode
 
2013-10-22 10:58:50 AM
It's so goddamn cute to see left wingers who think they're any better.
 
2013-10-22 10:59:20 AM
Reagan's speechwriter telling people not to be gullible? What a crappy week for the IRONIC tag to be on vacation
 
2013-10-22 10:59:26 AM

Muta: A teabagger will hear, "your instincts are right", as, "a government shutdown was the way to go."
A teabagger will hear, "be less gullible", as,  "don't listen to the libral media next time and stick to your guns."


^^^
exactly this

no one can save them now.
 
2013-10-22 10:59:27 AM

Lando Lincoln: Be less gullible? If you take that away from them, then all they'll have left is impotent rage.


They still have a lot going for them..racism, homophobia, poor understanding of English and economics...
 
2013-10-22 11:01:47 AM
The next interesting thing that Peggy Noonan says will be the first.

She had a couple of memorable phrases attributed to her, back in the day. But over the subsequent three decades, I have come to suspect that she must have had a gifted intern or assistant who came up with "thousand points of light" and "slipped the surly bonds of earth, and touched the face of God". Because this woman is a dolt.
 
2013-10-22 11:02:16 AM
Says the woman who wrote lines for an actor with Alzheimer's disease.
 
2013-10-22 11:03:36 AM
telling people who are addicted to hearing only what they want to hear something that they don't want to hear should have predictable results.
 
2013-10-22 11:05:04 AM

kbronsito: Tea partiers are mostly made up of right-wing Christians.



Well, sure.  But that's the result of the "Big Tent" policy held by them.  The GOP is largely comprised of cast-offs from single-issue divisions; Roe v. Wade, Gun Control, Civil Rights, etc.
 
2013-10-22 11:06:18 AM
Never met a Tea Partier. Sure there are people whose attention span is that of a newt but they really don't form a politcal bloc, more of a reaction mob.

Unless the Tea Party exists in employees of the media it really doesn't exist.
 
2013-10-22 11:09:10 AM
Sounds like Peggy Noonan's just mad that somebody's better at taking advantage of them.

She wasn't complaining when they voted straight-ticket establishment.
 
2013-10-22 11:09:52 AM
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"Dance, little puppets, dance!"
 
2013-10-22 11:09:54 AM
Difficulty level legendary.
 
2013-10-22 11:12:26 AM
Time to add Peggy Noonan to the list?
 
2013-10-22 11:14:07 AM
And some Tea Partiers reading her advice surely thought to themselves, "To hell with this out-of-touch, Manhattan-dwelling RINO, telling me I'm gullible. And you wonder why Tea Partiers are constantly feeling disrespected?"

It's because teabaggers do so little that is worthy of respect.  Stop acting like whiny, ignorant little brats and people will stop calling you whiny, ignorant little brats.
 
2013-10-22 11:14:59 AM

Metaluna Mutant: Time up update the "enemies of the Republicans list" with yet another Reagan veteran.


I think she has been on the list since 2008. Or at least she should have been. She got caught by a live mic during what she thought was a commercial break. She said that the McCain/Palin race was over during the RNC convention.

Audio of incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4sOM4tpno
 
2013-10-22 11:16:06 AM

unexplained bacon: Muta: A teabagger will hear, "your instincts are right", as, "a government shutdown was the way to go."
A teabagger will hear, "be less gullible", as,  "don't listen to the libral media next time and stick to your guns."

^^^
exactly this

no one can save them now.


Yeuup. There's also the possiblity of "Don't listen to teh lies of Obama, like when he says he's not about to put you all in FEMA camps!"
 
2013-10-22 11:16:23 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Sounds like Peggy Noonan's just mad that somebody's better at taking advantage of them.

She wasn't complaining when they voted straight-ticket establishment.


Aaaaaaand we have a winnah!
 
2013-10-22 11:16:23 AM
Many of your instincts are right

Uh... yeah, about that...
 
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