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(Des Moines Register)   A Socialist Workers' Party candidate's "issue list" in a city council race is roughly equivalent to someone running for student class president and saying she'll ban homework   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 30
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2013-10-22 12:03:13 AM
Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage? Discuss streets and parks, something a local official might have some input on.

Even though he is a lawyer I think I'd vote for the first guy. He is concerned about the Beaver.
 
2013-10-22 12:27:14 AM
Cities can set higher minimum wage within their own borders, so that's legitimate.  While a city can't set more lax abortion regulations than the state, a candidate could promise not to support any that are more restrictive.  Immigration does seem completely out of the purview though.
 
2013-10-22 12:47:12 AM

feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage? Discuss streets and parks, something a local official might have some input on.

Even though he is a lawyer I think I'd vote for the first guy. He is concerned about the Beaver.


Because wedge issues get votes.
 
2013-10-22 04:56:52 AM
Probably still saner than a tea bagger.
 
2013-10-22 06:41:00 AM
I also oppose racial profiling, vigilantism and police brutality.

Its sad that people need to come right out and say this.

Make no mistake, I oppose vigilantism AND police brutality!
 
2013-10-22 07:07:10 AM

vernonFL: I also oppose racial profiling, vigilantism and police brutality.

Its sad that people need to come right out and say this.

Make no mistake, I oppose vigilantism AND police brutality!


"Soft on crime". Got it.
 
x23
2013-10-22 07:10:32 AM
...and ALL the water fountains in school will dispense root beer!
 
2013-10-22 07:18:56 AM
It's amazing how people vote against their own interests and only seek to reinforce the cage in which they're trapped.

Opt out of the matrix, people.
 
2013-10-22 07:24:34 AM
not really.
 
2013-10-22 07:30:28 AM

feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage?


Because voters are idiots.
 
2013-10-22 07:32:36 AM
Sean Bagniewski is the SWP candidate?

Public Safety. Ward 1 covers northwest Des Moines and each neighborhood has its own safety needs. From day-time burglaries to the issues facing Evelyn Davis Park, I want to work with each neighborhood directly to address their concerns. I have been endorsed by the Des Moines firefighter and police unions and look forward to working with them on public safety issues if I am elected. I believe Neighborhood Watch programs are cost-effective and should be supported citywide. The city needs to help coordinate them and provide signs to all blocks that organize for them.

Economic Development. I want to be an advocate for neighborhood commercial districts; The Sixth Avenue Corridor, the area around Drake, and the Beaver Avenue Streetscape Project all need to be supported. I especially want to help make Merle Hay a corridor to the city. This means helping enhance the mall and helping to beautify the streets, especially with visual clutter like the overhead power lines. I also want to focus on bringing young professionals back to Des Moines.


If I were a Des Moinesian, I'd like to hear more specifics, but I don't see anything even remotely dissatisfying in what he's saying.
 
2013-10-22 07:37:42 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Cities can set higher minimum wage within their own borders, so that's legitimate.  While a city can't set more lax abortion regulations than the state, a candidate could promise not to support any that are more restrictive.  Immigration does seem completely out of the purview though.


Not really - it's pretty much the same idea you have on the other two. A united city council and mayor can direct the municipal PD and prosecutors not to target (or to increase targetting of) illegal immigrants (or the companies that hire them). But again - that's just the PD; a city council can do very little about the county sheriff's office, state patro, state investigative department (separate branches in Iowa), or feds.
 
2013-10-22 07:59:33 AM

vernonFL: I also oppose racial profiling, vigilantism and police brutality.

Its sad that people need to come right out and say this.

Make no mistake, I oppose vigilantism AND police brutality!


Code words. It means they'll side with voters who seem to always run afoul of the law. If you're tired of the police arresting friends of yours who want nothing more than to earn a living via victimless crimes like burglary and armed robbery.
 
2013-10-22 08:11:38 AM
What's his Fark handle?

// Have no idea what he asked for, site not phone friendly
 
2013-10-22 08:32:59 AM

HotWingConspiracy: feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage?

Because voters are idiots.


Because cities are more liberal than the rest of the country and the Federal government lags behind instead of leading the way (as national governments do in the saner parts of the world).

Serious, there is more and better gay right legislation at the city level around the country than there is at the state or Federal level.
 
2013-10-22 08:39:10 AM

Dwight_Yeast: HotWingConspiracy: feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage?

Because voters are idiots.

Because cities are more liberal than the rest of the country and the Federal government lags behind instead of leading the way (as national governments do in the saner parts of the world).

Serious, there is more and better gay right legislation at the city level around the country than there is at the state or Federal level.


Unfortunately, most city council members around here are retirees. Which means they don't move from city to state, and possibly state to federal later on.

Too bad... most of them are far more concerned for their constituents' well being than our federal delegation.
 
2013-10-22 08:40:40 AM
"...we need to organize independently to build a movement that can take power from the capitalist class and establish a workers and farmers government."

That has worked out so great in the past. But don't call her a communist.
 
2013-10-22 08:45:29 AM

badhatharry: "...we need to organize independently to build a movement that can take power from the capitalist class and establish a workers and farmers government."

That has worked out so great in the past. But don't call her a communist.



It also ignores the fact that (around here at least) the farmers are the capitalist class. Mom and pop farms are long, long gone.
 
2013-10-22 08:59:51 AM

clkeagle: badhatharry: "...we need to organize independently to build a movement that can take power from the capitalist class and establish a workers and farmers government."

That has worked out so great in the past. But don't call her a communist.


It also ignores the fact that (around here at least) the farmers are the capitalist class. Mom and pop farms are long, long gone.


They were in Russia before 1917 too. The "people" took over the farms and killed the farmers. The farms failed. Everybody starved.
 
2013-10-22 09:43:40 AM

x23: ...and ALL the water fountains in school will dispense root beer!


FTFY. I work in a school. This would definitely get my vote. Unless the beer is Bud Light.
 
2013-10-22 11:24:54 AM
Man, she reminds me of that nutter Stephine McMillian. Draws a very crappy web comic, read at your own risk.
 
2013-10-22 11:29:12 AM
From this day on, the official language of Des Moines will be Swedish. In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old!
 
2013-10-22 01:01:43 PM

vernonFL: I also oppose racial profiling, vigilantism and police brutality.

Its sad that people need to come right out and say this.

Make no mistake, I oppose vigilantism AND police brutality!


So you oppose Batman. What is wrong with you?
 
2013-10-22 02:23:20 PM

badhatharry: clkeagle: badhatharry: "...we need to organize independently to build a movement that can take power from the capitalist class and establish a workers and farmers government."

That has worked out so great in the past. But don't call her a communist.


It also ignores the fact that (around here at least) the farmers are the capitalist class. Mom and pop farms are long, long gone.

They were in Russia before 1917 too. The "people" took over the farms and killed the farmers. The farms failed. Everybody starved.


To be fair, there's not exactly a great historical track record of democracies cropping up and working well for a long time either.

We have the fairly unique honor of not following our last revolution with a bloodletting.  I don't think we'd murder the farmers after removing corporate involvement in politics.  Could be wrong, I guess.
 
2013-10-22 03:34:22 PM

Mrbogey: vernonFL: I also oppose racial profiling, vigilantism and police brutality.

Its sad that people need to come right out and say this.

Make no mistake, I oppose vigilantism AND police brutality!

Code words. It means they'll side with voters who seem to always run afoul of the law. If you're tired of the police arresting friends of yours who want nothing more than to earn a living via victimless crimes like burglary and armed robbery.


Yep. No problem with police brutality or racial profiling at ALL in this country. And certainly, no significant chunk of the country cheering for vigilante assholes.
 
2013-10-22 03:41:01 PM

Asa Phelps: feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage? Discuss streets and parks, something a local official might have some input on.

Even though he is a lawyer I think I'd vote for the first guy. He is concerned about the Beaver.

Because wedge issues get votes.


From idiots. Would you vote for some candidate who shared your opinion on arms reduction if they were running for city council? I wouldn't base my decision on that I'd want to hear about traffic and parks.
 
2013-10-22 03:42:13 PM

UNC_Samurai: Sean Bagniewski is the SWP candidate?

Public Safety. Ward 1 covers northwest Des Moines and each neighborhood has its own safety needs. From day-time burglaries to the issues facing Evelyn Davis Park, I want to work with each neighborhood directly to address their concerns. I have been endorsed by the Des Moines firefighter and police unions and look forward to working with them on public safety issues if I am elected. I believe Neighborhood Watch programs are cost-effective and should be supported citywide. The city needs to help coordinate them and provide signs to all blocks that organize for them.

Economic Development. I want to be an advocate for neighborhood commercial districts; The Sixth Avenue Corridor, the area around Drake, and the Beaver Avenue Streetscape Project all need to be supported. I especially want to help make Merle Hay a corridor to the city. This means helping enhance the mall and helping to beautify the streets, especially with visual clutter like the overhead power lines. I also want to focus on bringing young professionals back to Des Moines.

If I were a Des Moinesian, I'd like to hear more specifics, but I don't see anything even remotely dissatisfying in what he's saying.


No the page is set up poorly, the crazy lady at the top is the socialist, you have to read the sidebar (which is fubar) to find out who she is.
 
2013-10-22 03:42:48 PM
fark, I'd vote for someone who'd ban homework.

I needs muh GTAV.
 
2013-10-22 04:58:52 PM

feckingmorons: Why do people running for local offices discuss immigration, abortion, raising the minimum wage? Discuss streets and parks, something a local official might have some input on.

Even though he is a lawyer I think I'd vote for the first guy. He is concerned about the Beaver.


Pishaw! Balderdash! When I was an Alderman in my re-election pamphlet  I took credit for there being no 9-11 style attacks within the town during my term.
 
2013-10-22 05:42:12 PM

LordJiro: Yep. No problem with police brutality or racial profiling at ALL in this country. And certainly, no significant chunk of the country cheering for vigilante assholes.


We don't have a police brutality problem in this country. You may however disagree and think that a few incidents make an epidemic. Racial profiling is awful though so I agree with you on that. A police officer viewing you as suspicious because you fit a profile is the worse thing in the world.

Who cheered for a vigilante? Are you conflating vigilantism with self-defense?
 
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