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(Slate)   Hate your spouse? No? Aw, that's sweet. You're a couple of lovebirds. Now, imagine a future where you both live to be 150 years old. Ready to kill yourself yet?   (slate.com) divider line 153
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2013-10-21 08:05:08 PM
Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...
 
2013-10-21 08:11:37 PM
I might need that long for my 401K to mature.
 
2013-10-21 08:11:40 PM
Most people will be Soylent Green before having to worry about that.
 
2013-10-21 08:18:46 PM

Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...


She'll murder me in my sleep way before then.
 
2013-10-21 08:19:19 PM
Sounds okay. My parents stayed married out of spite.
 
2013-10-21 08:22:01 PM

Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...


Ditto.  Hope I'm not too blind to play video games by then.
 
2013-10-21 08:28:18 PM
Maybe not myself... but somebody.
 
2013-10-21 08:36:12 PM
John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.


Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.
 
2013-10-21 08:43:31 PM
Probably a future of term-limited marriage contracts and breeding permits, ala Larry Niven.
 
2013-10-21 08:45:59 PM
Meh, we have divorce and co-habitation now and have had for thousands of years.  But worrying about how the kids of tomorrow won't be as good as the moral-whatchamacallit of today just makes you sound old.  Which is good because in 2060 you will be old.
 
2013-10-21 08:48:05 PM

djkutch: John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.

Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.


Half your age plus seven. At 120 that puts the floor at 67. So she's fine.
 
2013-10-21 08:49:45 PM

Makh: Meh, we have divorce and co-habitation now and have had for thousands of years.  But worrying about how the kids of tomorrow won't be as good as the moral-whatchamacallit of today just makes you sound old.  Which is good because in 2060 you will be old.


In 2060 I'll be 107. I'll be happy living to 2025.
 
2013-10-21 08:58:38 PM

TheOmni: djkutch: John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.

Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.

Half your age plus seven. At 120 that puts the floor at 67. So she's fine.


TheOmni: djkutch: John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.

Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.

Half your age plus seven. At 120 that puts the floor at 67. So she's fine.


I can't disagree when you apply the sugar daddy formula. She's found a college freshman. Eager and trainable.

If she was 60. and he 35...?  Still golden.  One would suppose intellectual maturity might need to be considered.

I would warrant a 170 year old woman in this scenario is Lindsey Lohan.
 
2013-10-21 09:07:14 PM
Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?
 
2013-10-21 09:21:25 PM
So how about voluntary suicide? The gov't pays out the present value of your Social Security payments to your kids and everyone's a winner.
 
2013-10-21 09:56:37 PM
I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.
 
2013-10-21 10:03:00 PM

DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.


We need a new On Golden Pond :-)
 
2013-10-21 10:21:21 PM
Most people still wouldn't be able to retire.............

/don't want to live that long
//and work that long
 
2013-10-21 10:21:51 PM
I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.
 
2013-10-21 10:35:52 PM
yea, good here.  150 is off the table but were good.
 
2013-10-21 11:06:15 PM
If we can live to 150, perhaps there wont be such a rush to hurry through school, standardized testing, college, finding a career, getting married, having kids, buying a house, etc....
 
2013-10-21 11:13:36 PM
What does Hallmark suggest for the 125th anniversary?
 
2013-10-21 11:14:55 PM

Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...


Niven, Varley, Heinlein, Asimov, LeGuin, pretty much every SF author has taken stabs at this.
GUESS WHAT?!
The future is different!!

Varley and Heinlein writing about relationships and sexual identity are legendary.

If you could switch to the other gender and back, with 100% functionality, would you?
Would you after being one for 100 years? 500 years? 5000 years?

At some point you would get bored to death of what you have and want ANYTHING NEW!
 
2013-10-21 11:16:10 PM

Mr. Eugenides: What does Hallmark suggest for the 125th anniversary?


depends
 
2013-10-21 11:16:19 PM
"In the future, relationships might be different! Here's a half dozen poorly thought out guesses as to how, stretched out to two pages with Jetsons references!".

Someone got paid to write that slop?  How do I get a gig like that?
 
2013-10-21 11:17:09 PM

Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?


Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.
 
2013-10-21 11:17:47 PM
So all married people will be off each other soon?

GOOD
 
2013-10-21 11:17:56 PM

jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.


Are you me?
 
2013-10-21 11:19:33 PM
I imagine by the time that we reach a future where the average lifespan reaches 150, we'll have adapted our society to fit.
 
2013-10-21 11:20:23 PM
Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.
 
2013-10-21 11:22:05 PM

TheOmni: djkutch: John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.

Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.

Half your age plus seven. At 120 that puts the floor at 67. So she's fine.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who references that formula.
 
2013-10-21 11:22:24 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?

Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.


our social models are not very far from the 19th century

/still in favor of married people murder/suicide
 
2013-10-21 11:22:39 PM
150? I don't even plan on being 75....
 
2013-10-21 11:22:47 PM

Msol: So how about voluntary suicide? The gov't pays out the present value of your Social Security payments to your kids and everyone's a winner.


www.technovelgy.com
 
2013-10-21 11:24:18 PM
Man, futurists are an optimistic bunch. You think we'll be living until 150 any time soon? Dream on.
 
2013-10-21 11:24:35 PM

Infernalist: I imagine by the time that we reach a future where the average lifespan reaches 150, we'll have adapted our society to fit.


Yeah, judging by how we've used our resources so far, probably by increasing the work week, reducing salaries and increasing the retirement age...

meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.


Too bad that won't ever happen, eh? Looks like we'll have to adapt right here.

See, if we had magic technology that would allow humans to live on dead rocks... we can use it right here!

The paradox of the techno-space utopian.
 
2013-10-21 11:25:51 PM

troggy: jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.

Are you me?


I'd wager that you're most FARKers, if that's your criteria
;)

/Not me of course, I'm lazy but sober and she has an eating disorder
 
2013-10-21 11:27:50 PM
Don't ask me. I'm Mormon, and sealed to my wife for eternity. 150 years doesnt sound very long at all :)
 
2013-10-21 11:28:12 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?

Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.


Swallowing the hateful ejaculate you produce after abusing yourself to Picard in ST:NG will not extend your life.

Sorry, but I'm HTH. HAND.
 
2013-10-21 11:28:50 PM
Well ... sex has gotten better and better the longer we've been married -- 20 years now, knock on wood, by the time we're 150 we'd make the planet explode.
 
2013-10-21 11:29:28 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I'd still like to have a Teens For Cash-style retirement plan, but at 150 I'd have to tinker it to a young,sexy 75. Banging hot college chicks can be kinda creepy at 150, with me looking like a 45 year old Progeria patient and all.
 
2013-10-21 11:29:35 PM
That lady is the only reason I haven't swallowed a bullet already, subby.

Still though...150 years...I'd hate to think of her suffering through my bullshiat for that long.
 
2013-10-21 11:31:11 PM
Subby:  I'd be perfectly ok with living to 150 with my wife.  Sorry that your life has been so unfortunate as to make you so jaded.
 
2013-10-21 11:32:57 PM

fusillade762: Msol: So how about voluntary suicide? The gov't pays out the present value of your Social Security payments to your kids and everyone's a winner.

[www.technovelgy.com image 350x455]


it won't cost 25 cents
 
2013-10-21 11:34:36 PM
I just want to be alone !
 
2013-10-21 11:35:18 PM

IamAwake: Subby:  I'd be perfectly ok with living to 150 with my wife.  Sorry that your life has been so unfortunate as to make you so jaded.


yours reads your fark post history too eh?
 
2013-10-21 11:35:23 PM

troggy: Quantum Apostrophe: Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?

Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.

Swallowing the hateful ejaculate you produce after abusing yourself to Picard in ST:NG will not extend your life.

Sorry, but I'm HTH. HAND.


Let me know when you're ready to make sense and I'll give you a chance.
 
2013-10-21 11:35:24 PM

ISO15693: Don't ask me. I'm Mormon, and sealed to my wife for eternity. 150 years doesnt sound very long at all :)


Only one?

//Sorry, couldn't resist :)
 
2013-10-21 11:36:16 PM

Brainsick: troggy: jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.

Are you me?

I'd wager that you're most FARKers, if that's your criteria
;)

/Not me of course, I'm lazy but sober and she has an eating disorder


How do you read this site, much less post comments sober?

Also do you know a way to verbally aggravate an eating disorder? When I criticize her weight she just eats more.

I'm all about self-improvement.
 
2013-10-21 11:36:37 PM

namatad: Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...

Niven, Varley, Heinlein, Asimov, LeGuin, pretty much every SF author has taken stabs at this.
GUESS WHAT?!
The future is different!!

Varley and Heinlein writing about relationships and sexual identity are legendary.

If you could switch to the other gender and back, with 100% functionality, would you?
Would you after being one for 100 years? 500 years? 5000 years?

At some point you would get bored to death of what you have and want ANYTHING NEW!


Came here to mention Asimov. But how did gender changing come into this? Something on your mind?

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-10-21 11:36:55 PM
Wow.

What a grimly biatchy, narrow-minded, and unappealing future. Men are gold-digging non-providers who ditch women for younger models, and women are breadwinners who still join the bitter ex-wives club before couging out and proclaiming their independence from the paradigm of love.

Why do I feel like this "article" is more about the author projecting her current emotional crises than it is about projecting a plausible future?
 
2013-10-21 11:39:46 PM
FTFA:  because humanity persists in thinking women should only partner with men their age or older, even as those men have taken younger second or third or fourth wives. In scenario F, our thinking changes and we decide that women, like men, should be able to dip down and date younger partners

It's not that "we think", it's that most men would take a younger version, because why not? What's next? Forcing men to court grannies?

Take a hike "feminism", you will not win this battle.
 
2013-10-21 11:40:13 PM

jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.


She at least the kind of fat where she has big ole titties? That's something at least.
 
2013-10-21 11:41:16 PM
Longevity will create an increase in the number of people claiming "waifus" and "husbandos" as legal spouses. Eventually, this will result in the collapse of society and the possible extinction of humanity. It's already starting in Japan.

/moe ruins everything.
 
2013-10-21 11:41:48 PM

whistleridge: Why do I feel like this "article" is more about the author projecting her current emotional crises than it is about projecting a plausible future?


im guessing this is your first slate article.
 
2013-10-21 11:42:17 PM

Mr. Eugenides: What does Hallmark suggest for the 125th anniversary?


Let's see, if 75th anniversary is diamond, 125th anniversary would be oxygen.
 
2013-10-21 11:42:18 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: troggy: Quantum Apostrophe: Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?

Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.

Swallowing the hateful ejaculate you produce after abusing yourself to Picard in ST:NG will not extend your life.

Sorry, but I'm HTH. HAND.

Let me know when you're ready to make sense and I'll give you a chance.


Stop jerking off to Star Trek, then licking your hand, then hate-farking space threads.

I'm Here To Help. Have A Nice Day.
 
2013-10-21 11:43:16 PM

jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.


Yeah, but you'll be sober in the morning and she'll still be fat.

//Winston Churchill quote in there somewhere
 
2013-10-21 11:44:43 PM
Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.
 
2013-10-21 11:44:50 PM

craigzy: IamAwake: Subby:  I'd be perfectly ok with living to 150 with my wife.  Sorry that your life has been so unfortunate as to make you so jaded.

yours reads your fark post history too eh?


No, it's not her type thing.  She is the coolest person I know though, and despite being together since we were teens (I just hit 40) I still think she's the bomb.  But then again, I'm not a cynical, angry fark...so maybe that factors in somewhere.
 
2013-10-21 11:45:13 PM

craigzy: whistleridge: Why do I feel like this "article" is more about the author projecting her current emotional crises than it is about projecting a plausible future?

im guessing this is your first slate article.


Far from it. But I fail to see your implied point?
 
2013-10-21 11:45:42 PM

WhoopAssWayne: jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.

Yeah, but you'll be sober in the morning and she'll still be fat.

//Winston Churchill quote in there somewhere


And the New England Patriots will still be the team I hate the most.  That and your mother is a mallard with a cold.
 
2013-10-21 11:47:02 PM
But by the time Ann and John Grant are 150, we may be living in a world where the family has itself become a kind of a cloud, a networked or latticed arrangement of relationships.

I know at least one family like that today. But maybe in the future, it won't just be them Hispanicals.


/hey, they are
//ain't a stereotype if true
 
2013-10-21 11:47:13 PM
Sounds awesome, actually!

Except for the running out of retirement money part...
 
2013-10-21 11:49:47 PM

DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.



Sorry, but she's banging the UPS guy.
 
2013-10-21 11:50:57 PM

troggy: Quantum Apostrophe: troggy: Quantum Apostrophe: Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?

Sure, technology won't help us and our social models are static.

Just look at how we're all the same since the 19th century.

You can commit slow suicide by refusing life extension technologies (but you haven't refused to use modern health care or indoor plumbing, eh?), but don't get in my way.

Swallowing the hateful ejaculate you produce after abusing yourself to Picard in ST:NG will not extend your life.

Sorry, but I'm HTH. HAND.

Let me know when you're ready to make sense and I'll give you a chance.

Stop jerking off to Star Trek, then licking your hand, then hate-farking space threads.

I'm Here To Help. Have A Nice Day.


Sorry, I just tried Google Translate from Utter Retard to English and your gibberish crashed the browser.

I just barely saw "space thread" before all my tabs disappeared and I looked around, no space thread here?
 
2013-10-21 11:51:19 PM

Big_Doofus: DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.


Sorry, but she's banging the UPS guy.


Yeah but he gets all his RealDoll replacement orifices a day early, so it evens out.
 
2013-10-21 11:52:37 PM

troggy: Brainsick: troggy: jaylectricity: I'm a drunk and she's very fat. We probably won't live too long.

Are you me?

I'd wager that you're most FARKers, if that's your criteria
;)

/Not me of course, I'm lazy but sober and she has an eating disorder

How do you read this site, much less post comments sober?

Also do you know a way to verbally aggravate an eating disorder? When I criticize her weight she just eats more.

I'm all about self-improvement.


1. A very loose definition of 'sober' (No alcohol, nothing harder than MJ, and that, like, once every 3 weeks or so) It helps that I was a raging drunk until I was 26 and was addicted to meth for a year...well, not HELPS, exactly
;)

2. The only surefire way I know to get a fat wife to lose weight is to divorce her, based on my friends' experience; I've only been married once...
 (Mrs. Brainsick had a string of asshole/loser guys who led to her eating issues, including her ex-husband; I do everything I can to fatten her up, actually)

3. Anonymity is a wonderful thing
(Got that, NSA?)
 
2013-10-21 11:53:59 PM
I just turned 30. If you're telling me I can have another 120 years with my wife instead of only the 60 we might hope for now, then sign me up!

cosmiquemuffin: Sounds awesome, actually!

Except for the running out of retirement money part...


Presumably people would work longer, especially since they would be in good health longer. All on average, naturally.
 
2013-10-21 11:54:13 PM

ISO15693: Don't ask me. I'm Mormon, and sealed to my wife for eternity. 150 years doesnt sound very long at all :)


Yeah, but you'll have a whole planet to play trust-me-I'm a-Nephilim with
 
2013-10-21 11:54:51 PM

simplicimus: Probably a future of term-limited marriage contracts and breeding permits, ala Larry Niven.


Pretty sure Heinlein was there first, with contractual and serial marriages in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.
 
2013-10-21 11:54:58 PM

T-Servo: I might need that long for my 401K to mature.


Yup.  Thanks for getting that ball rolling Ronald Reagan....

Seriously, can we get a peasant uprising yet or what????
 
2013-10-21 11:55:33 PM

FunkOut: Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.


Just don't simultaneously love and hate an ex when you have a young kid together. It might be interesting but it's also a living hell.
 
2013-10-21 11:56:42 PM

meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.


Will they offer me a chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure?
 
2013-10-21 11:56:52 PM

alabasterblack: T-Servo: I might need that long for my 401K to mature.

Yup.  Thanks for getting that ball rolling Ronald Reagan....

Seriously, can we get a peasant uprising yet or what????


I've got 15 years, +/-5.
 
2013-10-22 12:00:09 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: I just barely saw "space thread" before all my tabs disappeared and I looked around


Then came in to sh*t all over (badly written) futurism because that's your (self-chosen) role here on FARK? We know.

/keep yelling at clouds though, they deserve it!
 
2013-10-22 12:00:26 AM

FunkOut: Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.


I know! Everyone keeps telling you that you should cast her into the fire, but she's precious to you!
 
2013-10-22 12:01:39 AM
Is this putting the cart before the horse or sour grapes?
 
2013-10-22 12:01:57 AM

sendtodave: meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.

Will they offer me a chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure?


They'll actually be shooting you into the sun.
 
2013-10-22 12:02:43 AM

sendtodave: FunkOut: Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.

I know! Everyone keeps telling you that you should cast her into the fire, but she's precious to you!


Mount Doom?
 
2013-10-22 12:07:35 AM
Quantum Apostrophe:

I just barely saw "space thread" before all my tabs disappeared and I looked around, no space thread here?

No of course it's not. It's a life extension thread, your other bread and butter.

And I just figured out how life extension works in your mind.

Atoms don't age, as of course you know. And entropy is the fate of all matter in the universe as Newton taught us.

So instead of eating food from an external source, thus introducing entropy into your system, you merely recycle your own atoms! Your own urine, feces, and semen you happily lap up, for the sole purpose of regurgitating the same predictable shiat on Fark. You'll live forever this way. Good show!
 
2013-10-22 12:08:05 AM
Sure, I guess if you think marriage is just about raising kids. I mean, why bother staying together once that job's done, they're out of the house, and you're done playing with grand- and great-grandkids.

/already promised eternity to the SO
//don't see the big fuss about staying monogamous with somebody
 
2013-10-22 12:15:24 AM

FunkOut: sendtodave: FunkOut: Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.

I know! Everyone keeps telling you that you should cast her into the fire, but she's precious to you!

Mount Doom?


Mons Doom.
 
2013-10-22 12:16:07 AM

meat0918: sendtodave: meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.

Will they offer me a chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure?

They'll actually be shooting you into the sun.


Sounds exciting!
 
2013-10-22 12:16:32 AM

IamAwake: Subby:  I'd be perfectly ok with living to 150 with my wife.  Sorry that your life has been so unfortunate as to make you so jaded.


but would your wife be perfectly ok with you? are you certain?
the number of people that I know in unhappy marriages is legion.

what percentage are there because they are afraid not to be? lonely, hard, etc etc etc
what percentage are there because their religion damn them if they leave?
 
2013-10-22 12:18:11 AM

FunkOut: sendtodave: FunkOut: Actually, if you both hate and love your spouse, it keeps things interesting.

I know! Everyone keeps telling you that you should cast her into the fire, but she's precious to you!

Mount Doom?


Phoenix.
 
2013-10-22 12:18:22 AM

gerbilpox: namatad: Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...

Niven, Varley, Heinlein, Asimov, LeGuin, pretty much every SF author has taken stabs at this.
GUESS WHAT?!
The future is different!!

Varley and Heinlein writing about relationships and sexual identity are legendary.

If you could switch to the other gender and back, with 100% functionality, would you?
Would you after being one for 100 years? 500 years? 5000 years?

At some point you would get bored to death of what you have and want ANYTHING NEW!

Came here to mention Asimov. But how did gender changing come into this? Something on your mind?

/NTTAWWT


In "Changes" by Neil Gaiman, a cure for cancer is invented that basically reboots your DNA, but the side effect is that you wake up as the opposite sex every time you use it.  It becomes a social fad, and redefines the entire idea of gender.
 
2013-10-22 12:18:54 AM

meat0918: sendtodave: meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.

Will they offer me a chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure?

They'll actually be shooting you into the sun.


I see and like what you two did there.
 
2013-10-22 12:20:28 AM

DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.


Yeah, I don't care if it's uncool. I'm with you on this.
 
2013-10-22 12:20:57 AM
My take: I've had 20 years with her, and would give just about anything for another 100- even if it's under the same deal that Eos got for Tithonos.
 
2013-10-22 12:25:14 AM

namatad: but would your wife be perfectly ok with you? are you certain?
the number of people that I know in unhappy marriages is legion.


It's at least as absurd for you to believe that every marriage is unhappy as it would be for someone else to believe that every marriage is happy.
 
2013-10-22 12:28:45 AM
I'm sometimes the most cynical bastard in the world but at 48 I'm sort if ok with this. Not living to 150, but staying with the same person, yeah, I'm ok with that. Jesus, just think about starting all that shiat over. And family, Damn. My family is very far from perfect but I sure as he'll don't want to get a new one.
 
2013-10-22 12:32:10 AM
Any scifi fans out there, check out Drew Magary's novel The Postmortal, which is a more in-depth examination of what a catastrophe it would be for the world if it were possible for the bulk of humanity to become immortal.
 
2013-10-22 12:35:00 AM

Earguy: Longevity would suck.   Your money will run out, unless you work until age 100 or more.  The idea of working to age 100 is enough to make me want things to be like they are.

Then, let's assume that while lives may be extended, it's doubtful that sexuality and libido would be doubled.  So, let's say that menopause gets delayed until age 70, and people stop having sex at age 80 or 90.   That's another 80 or 90 years, not getting laid.

And driving.  Even if we live to be 170, do you trust a 110 year old person to drive?


I'm hoping that reaching an age where you're no longer a slave to the little head will be liberating. At least that's what I tell myself...
 
2013-10-22 12:35:53 AM

jayphat: TheOmni: djkutch: John marries a woman 20 years younger, ensuring he will have a partner who can look after his well-being, taking him to all his body-part-replacement appointments as he moves toward his first centennial.

Ann, at 120, takes a well-sculpted 70-year-old boyfriend, but prudently decides to live with rather than marry him.

Same shiat as now, but I gotta believe Ann is in pedo territory.

Half your age plus seven. At 120 that puts the floor at 67. So she's fine.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who references that formula.


No - the point of the article is that the old rigid rules and roles will be forgotten.

If you look at recent history, relationships have become far more flexible and varied.

"Formulas" will be gone
 
2013-10-22 12:37:49 AM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: 150? I don't even plan on being 75....


Funny thing: all 74 year olds have changed their mind on that one
 
2013-10-22 12:48:26 AM
Don't worry, with socialized medicine in much of the world, obamacare in the USA, and pretty much nothing everywhere else, rest assured the general public will never get to use these regenerative technologies.

However Darth Chaney and various others of the ruling class and their minions will get to live for a very long time with these technologies.
 
2013-10-22 12:49:50 AM

mjjt: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: 150? I don't even plan on being 75....

Funny thing: all 74 year olds have changed their mind on that one


"Who wants to live to be 100? Someone who's 99." -- Bob Hope, before his 100th birthday.

"I'm so old, they cancelled my blood type." -- Bob Hope, after his 100th birthday.
 
2013-10-22 01:01:28 AM
Well I've been married for 34 years, and if I knew I'd be in for another 97 years, I don't think I could do it. I mean, I do love my husband, you don't stay married to someone for 34 years if you don't. He's a good man, sometimes too good. But it seems like his biggest wish is to be even more of a hermit than he has been all his life and football and movies is about as adventurous as he goes unless I push him.
I've gotten used to going out and doing things without him because I refuse to spend the rest of my life just sitting in front of a 72 inch TV screen. I have time to pursue things I put off because I had kids to raise and worked full-time too and I am not ready for a rocking chair built for two.
I'd go back to college and take every single class that tickled my fancy and go to a LOT more concerts! I'd also buy and restore that '64 1/2 Mustang I always wanted and learn to play bass guitar. And books! I'd buy soooooo many more books!
Boring is deadly, to the heart, to the soul and to a marriage.
 
2013-10-22 01:01:46 AM
There comes a time for every vampire when the idea of eternity becomes momentarily unbearable. Living in the shadows, feeding in the darkness with only your own company to keep, rots into a solitary, hollow existence. Immortality seems like a good idea, until you realize you're going to spend it alone. So I went to sleep, hoping that the sounds of the passing eras would fade out, and a sort of death might happen. But as I lay there, the world didn't sound like the place I had left, but something different.
[rock music begins]

Better. It became worthwhile to rise again as new gods were born and worshipped. Night and day, they were never alone. I would become one of them.
[feeds]

Whether it was that first meal, or a hundred years of rest, I'm not sure. But suddenly I was feeling better than ever. My senses so high they led me straight to the instrument of my resurrection, playing in my old house.
 
2013-10-22 01:02:16 AM

Gunther: namatad: but would your wife be perfectly ok with you? are you certain?
the number of people that I know in unhappy marriages is legion.

It's at least as absurd for you to believe that every marriage is unhappy as it would be for someone else to believe that every marriage is happy.


Yeah, this.

I've never understood why people instinctively look down on marriage/child-rearing. I'm not sure I'll ever be married, and I don't ever plan to have kids, but this is entirely due to a serious realization of my own personal failings rather than any misguided sense of superiority.
 
2013-10-22 01:07:38 AM

Spork's N Knives: I'd go back to college and take every single class that tickled my fancy and go to a LOT more concerts! I'd also buy and restore that '64 1/2 Mustang I always wanted and learn to play bass guitar. And books! I'd buy soooooo many more books!


You sound old enough to do those things now, without worrying too much about money, kids, etc. What's stopping you?
 
2013-10-22 01:11:05 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: There comes a time for every vampire when the idea of eternity becomes momentarily unbearable. Living in the shadows, feeding in the darkness with only your own company to keep, rots into a solitary, hollow existence. Immortality seems like a good idea, until you realize you're going to spend it alone. So I went to sleep, hoping that the sounds of the passing eras would fade out, and a sort of death might happen. But as I lay there, the world didn't sound like the place I had left, but something different.
[rock music begins]

Better. It became worthwhile to rise again as new gods were born and worshipped. Night and day, they were never alone. I would become one of them.
[feeds]

Whether it was that first meal, or a hundred years of rest, I'm not sure. But suddenly I was feeling better than ever. My senses so high they led me straight to the instrument of my resurrection, playing in my old house.


That movie is so much better than people give it credit for.

But then again, the main hobby my wife and I indulge in is LARPing vampire. It's how we met.

And we could leave that movie on repeat all day night just for background noise while doing whatever else.
 
2013-10-22 01:20:38 AM

Praying for the end of time


3.bp.blogspot.com

 
2013-10-22 01:26:32 AM
Possibly if all other diseases are off the table. If not fark that. Getting old doed not look fun.
 
2013-10-22 01:28:50 AM
I've been trying to divorce my present wife since 1984.

So don't even get me started.
 
2013-10-22 01:29:08 AM

Infernalist: I imagine by the time that we reach a future where the average lifespan reaches 150, we'll have adapted our society to fit.


One would hope.

Imagine if you will [cue Twilight Zone music] someone who had been born in 1850 and was still alive today. Now look at the changes that person has had to go through, adapt to, accept and adjust to. Social mores, dress, lifestyle, housing, language, politics....if you're not a completely flexible and adaptable person, just the environmental changes would drive you mad over the course of your long life. Hell, in my aged grandmother's life (she's 98) we've gone from most people still traveling by horse and train, and using kerosene, to jet travel and the Internet. Not everyone can tolerate that kind of change.

It's not a question of "would you want to" live to be 150, or even if you could afford it, it's whether psychologically you could endure the massive alterations you'd experience. Look at all the people anxious to revert to a pre-1950's idyll, and imagine them forced to live a century and a half.
 
2013-10-22 01:32:03 AM

whistleridge: Wow.

What a grimly biatchy, narrow-minded, and unappealing future. Men are gold-digging non-providers who ditch women for younger models, and women are breadwinners who still join the bitter ex-wives club before couging out and proclaiming their independence from the paradigm of love.

Why do I feel like this "article" is more about the author projecting her current emotional crises than it is about projecting a plausible future?


I was thinking of a comment, you hit pretty close to what I wanted to say.

Men are useless
Marriage is a myth
Women after 30 can only be single and play bingo
Men can only remarry younger women as men have no substance
 
2013-10-22 01:32:17 AM
The basic premise is that nothing will change except people will live longer after their first divorce. Big farking whoop.

Those sweet, old couples that stay married 50+ years and then die would still stay together and then die. Those couples which stay together for the kids would still stay together for the kids and then divorce. Lonely old divorcees would still be lonely old divorcees. The only difference is that the last stage lasts longer.
 
2013-10-22 01:33:39 AM

Spork's N Knives: Well I've been married for 34 years, and if I knew I'd be in for another 97 years, I don't think I could do it. I mean, I do love my husband, you don't stay married to someone for 34 years if you don't. He's a good man, sometimes too good. But it seems like his biggest wish is to be even more of a hermit than he has been all his life and football and movies is about as adventurous as he goes unless I push him.
I've gotten used to going out and doing things without him because I refuse to spend the rest of my life just sitting in front of a 72 inch TV screen. I have time to pursue things I put off because I had kids to raise and worked full-time too and I am not ready for a rocking chair built for two.
I'd go back to college and take every single class that tickled my fancy and go to a LOT more concerts! I'd also buy and restore that '64 1/2 Mustang I always wanted and learn to play bass guitar. And books! I'd buy soooooo many more books!
Boring is deadly, to the heart, to the soul and to a marriage.


You don't need 97 years to learn to play bass guitar... More like, maybe an hour or two.

/bassist
 
2013-10-22 01:38:27 AM

optional: Gunther: namatad: but would your wife be perfectly ok with you? are you certain?
the number of people that I know in unhappy marriages is legion.

It's at least as absurd for you to believe that every marriage is unhappy as it would be for someone else to believe that every marriage is happy.

Yeah, this.

I've never understood why people instinctively look down on marriage/child-rearing. I'm not sure I'll ever be married, and I don't ever plan to have kids, but this is entirely due to a serious realization of my own personal failings rather than any misguided sense of superiority.


Wow, I respect what you said. If more people just said "No I'm not cut out for this" and not giving into society's pressure and dogma, society would be better off.
 
2013-10-22 01:39:18 AM

mjjt: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: 150? I don't even plan on being 75....

Funny thing: all 74 year olds have changed their mind on that one


Heh. No shiat. I must admit at 48 that I'm not too old to remember when I thought this age was impossibly old and probably no fun. I'm not sure how to put this but I feel like I've stayed the same age in my brain the whole time. I know a lot more shiat than I did 25 years ago, but my brain feels the same. And I'm happy to report 50 year chicks can certainly be hot. I thought about that thirty years ago and concluded the opposite but it's really good to find out I was just a young idiot that didn't know any better.
 
2013-10-22 01:40:09 AM

justalittledonedout: Possibly if all other diseases are off the table. If not fark that. Getting old doed not look fun.


No, it doedn't.
 
2013-10-22 01:42:11 AM

Danger Avoid Death: justalittledonedout: Possibly if all other diseases are off the table. If not fark that. Getting old doed not look fun.

No, it doedn't.


Niiiice.
 
2013-10-22 01:45:25 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Infernalist: I imagine by the time that we reach a future where the average lifespan reaches 150, we'll have adapted our society to fit.

Yeah, judging by how we've used our resources so far, probably by increasing the work week, reducing salaries and increasing the retirement age...

meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.

Too bad that won't ever happen, eh? Looks like we'll have to adapt right here.

See, if we had magic technology that would allow humans to live on dead rocks... we can use it right here!

The paradox of the techno-space utopian.



Where do the new people that get born live, now that the old people won't be dying off?  What's your eugenics plan?
 
2013-10-22 01:45:51 AM
Larry Niven, the scifi author, addressed this very same issue years ago in his books and came to essentially the same conclusions.

He also coined the word 'organ-legging' for killing or bribing people into giving up transplantable body parts. In his version, criminals were harvested for organs and the rejection factor had been overcome. However, he predicted that if this happened, you'd suddenly find something as simple as a traffic ticket warranting a death sentence and the years of appeals we currently have would be reduced dramatically.

Not having ever married, I can't fully say if one could remain with the same spouse for 60 - 70 years. Especially if you were able to retard the aging process so your age would freeze -- mainly in appearances -- at say, 35. Once you pass 60 and you've been married 25 years or so, I'd say you start to depend on your spouse for support because your body is starting to change and not for the good.

Decades ago, I used to know elderly couples who seemed to hate each other. They seemed to squabble and fight all of the time, yet let one fall seriously ill and the older almost went insane with worry until the sick one got better.

I noticed also that couples in their late 60s started looking like each other.

When you fall in love, the surge of emotions are wild and intoxicating. Obsessive, actually. They're wonderful -- so long as they are reciprocated. You begin and end in the other person's glow. You see your beloved through rose colored glasses.

Marry and have kids and the rose colored glasses change to clear as you assume the responsibility of being everything to a growing, helpless child. The romance starts to fade. You don't bring her flowers on impulse anymore and she has developed an affinity for Mom Jeans.

I would think that, after a certain amount of time, especially after the kids have grown and moved on, that couples would get tired of each other, wanting to recapture the wonderful feelings of being wildly in love again.

I can't say for sure, because I also have a dim view of people in general. Some are so absolutely stupid and selfish that I question their right to live and breed. I've known couples who have broken up for various reasons and very few seem to have agreeable divorces.

Back when the Jettson's came out, things were different and few people considered the sociological changes that could and would come. I knew folks where the husband earned all the money, took care of all the bills and gave the 'little woman' a household allowance. Everything would have been legally under his name.

I also knew that the husband could repeatedly beat his wife and kids half to death with near impunity. As the husband, he had the right. Many a kid went to school with welts on his arse and back from being beat with a belt or switch and the schools thought nothing of it.

We've changed extraordinarily over the millions of years we've been around and huge changes have been made in my lifetime concerning society. I expect there will be more to come and not all will be good.

Multiple marriages just might become the norm or else just personal contracts, made out for a number of years.

Now, I have heard of folks who have been madly in love with each other for decades, right up until their deaths, but they're not that common. I've known one spouse to die and, within a few days or weeks, the other, who had been healthy, also just dies.

Some folks seem to be able to make lifetime marriages work.
 
2013-10-22 01:46:40 AM
Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?
 
2013-10-22 01:52:05 AM

Gyrfalcon: Infernalist: I imagine by the time that we reach a future where the average lifespan reaches 150, we'll have adapted our society to fit.

One would hope.

Imagine if you will [cue Twilight Zone music] someone who had been born in 1850 and was still alive today. Now look at the changes that person has had to go through, adapt to, accept and adjust to. Social mores, dress, lifestyle, housing, language, politics....if you're not a completely flexible and adaptable person, just the environmental changes would drive you mad over the course of your long life. Hell, in my aged grandmother's life (she's 98) we've gone from most people still traveling by horse and train, and using kerosene, to jet travel and the Internet. Not everyone can tolerate that kind of change.

It's not a question of "would you want to" live to be 150, or even if you could afford it, it's whether psychologically you could endure the massive alterations you'd experience. Look at all the people anxious to revert to a pre-1950's idyll, and imagine them forced to live a century and a half.


Just think of how much game you'll have with the high school chicks.

Or think of Twilight.  That dude is like 120 years old, but he's totally still into high school chicks, which is completely creepy.
 
2013-10-22 01:52:13 AM

NobleHam: The basic premise is that nothing will change except people will live longer after their first divorce. Big farking whoop.

Those sweet, old couples that stay married 50+ years and then die would still stay together and then die. Those couples which stay together for the kids would still stay together for the kids and then divorce. Lonely old divorcees would still be lonely old divorcees. The only difference is that the last stage lasts longer.


Yeah maybe, or they just might like the person. I've never been "in love" with my husband but I love him, think his humor, ethics and empathy are awesome. He puts up with my shiat and baggage. I just like the guy. I like hanging out. Talking trash, doing stupid things and raising our turdmonkies is a riot.
 
2013-10-22 01:53:56 AM

sleeps in trees: optional: Gunther: namatad: but would your wife be perfectly ok with you? are you certain?
the number of people that I know in unhappy marriages is legion.

It's at least as absurd for you to believe that every marriage is unhappy as it would be for someone else to believe that every marriage is happy.

Yeah, this.

I've never understood why people instinctively look down on marriage/child-rearing. I'm not sure I'll ever be married, and I don't ever plan to have kids, but this is entirely due to a serious realization of my own personal failings rather than any misguided sense of superiority.

Wow, I respect what you said. If more people just said "No I'm not cut out for this" and not giving into society's pressure and dogma, society would be better off.


Well, the danger with that is people won't try to better themselves and simply take the easy way out (and that's exactly what this is). I am trying to better myself, but I really do think I'm fundamentally just too selfish to be a good father. I know that your heart is supposed to melt the moment you see your infant child, but a lot of things that were sure to make me feel warm and fuzzy had no emotional effect at all.

Also, I know that there are parents out there who never really wanted their children, and resent their kids for it. I see no reason to inflict that kind of attitude on anyone (and I'm a pretty resentful asshole).
 
2013-10-22 01:55:25 AM

JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?



Yep.  Ideally, you'd extend the middle part of life, not the end.  Which would possibly extend fertility from a 40 year period to an 80 year period, which would cause a horrendous population problem.

More people, living longer, making more people, living longer, etc.  Where do they live?
 
2013-10-22 01:58:50 AM

jaylectricity: drunk


Hmm..which came first?
 
2013-10-22 02:06:32 AM
As long as life stages scale along with the lifespan.  Extend my 30s-50s to 30s-130s, I'm okay with that.  Extend my life so that the last 80 years is "shiatting myself, eating tapioca, yelling at clouds, and forgetting the name of the nurse who comes by the nursing home to roll me over to avoid bedsores", I'll be eating a bullet at 75.
 
2013-10-22 02:08:21 AM

JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?


So one day, if I live that long, I might be saying, "So I'm dating this woman and she's 130, but she's got the body of a 110-year-old." I cringe.
 
2013-10-22 02:08:49 AM
Here's a secret, guys. Those "lonely" old women you hear about? They're actually just fine without your tender attentions.  I chatted with one old lady, asking if she was interested in dating after widowhood. She gave a rather amusing description of "the scrotum...it gets longer and longer... " with the accompanying hand gesture.
 
2013-10-22 02:08:50 AM

meat0918: sendtodave: meat0918: Or, you might think a little more long term about everything, fundamentally changing how humanity looks at resource usage, keeping offspring lower, etc.

But to be honest, we can't go super longevity until we reliably and safely establish off planet colonies.

Will they offer me a chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure?

They'll actually be shooting you into the sun.


Sounds like a Disaster Area!
 
2013-10-22 02:11:08 AM

noitsnot: JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?


Yep.  Ideally, you'd extend the middle part of life, not the end.  Which would possibly extend fertility from a 40 year period to an 80 year period, which would cause a horrendous population problem.

More people, living longer, making more people, living longer, etc.  Where do they live?


Miami.
 
2013-10-22 02:13:54 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

i figure more because of physical inability and pain; human contact would be a tally mark on the stay alive side
 
2013-10-22 02:17:05 AM
And the idea of being 150 years old with the woman I love sounds amazing. We are (at 40) building new careers and intend to (almost literally) destroy all the youngers with their 'newfangled' ideas of what's next...we grew up with Alice Cooper. Blondie. GG Allin. The Plasmatics. Shock only appeals to us if there is a brain behind it (which there usually is not). Can we make money off them? Great. Will we have them party at our house with our kids? OH FARK NO. Look, if my grandkids find my copy of Whitehouse or my greasy bullet belt 50 years from now, great. I'm not in it for my kids, except to feed, train, and show them that the world ain't their hometown. Other than that, show them that the powerful are either born into it or grab it, and they have to make the decision if it's worth it to be a type-a mofo. Me? If they are anarchists or vegans or ANYTHING...I just hope that they are more than a set of prescribed values. I hope in 150 years (!!!) we can get past the kid/parent thing and keep conversing and growing...and that they will pay for dinner.
 
2013-10-22 02:47:36 AM
Just wait until nano-technology infuses your body with an army of microscopic robots that not only automatically repair any damage to your body but will modify it as need be. Want to go deep sea diving? No problem we'll just whip you up a set of gills and a body that can withstand the pressures at 700 feet. Oh no shark! We'll when we sense the pressure points of the bites we'll create armour in those areas to protect you. Now just sit back and enjoy the ride until he gets tired of chomping on you and realizes you're inedible.

Now that would be a cool future. Every hundred years or so when you get sick of your physical appearance you can just program yourself a new one. Given thousands of years of life and an ever expanding exploration of the universe who even knows if there would be anyone left who even bothers looking like anything we once called human.
 
2013-10-22 02:48:04 AM
The problem with science fiction has always been that people tend to imagine the future society as more or less as the present but with more robots and flying cars.

The nuclear family is built around a timetable: Get married, get kids, make career, raise kids, send kids to college and watch the start their own nuclear family, retire, enjoy 20 years retirement, die.

If people start living much longer this timetable doesn't make sense, and we are going to see very different social structures.
 
2013-10-22 02:52:46 AM

Ghastly: Every hundred years or so when you get sick of your physical appearance you can just program yourself a new one.


Great. It takes a woman 3 hours to pick out an outfit to go out to dinner. How long is this gonna take?
 
2013-10-22 03:28:58 AM

ultramarinblaa: The problem with science fiction has always been that people tend to imagine the future society as more or less as the present but with more robots and flying cars.

The nuclear family is built around a timetable: Get married, get kids, make career, raise kids, send kids to college and watch the start their own nuclear family, retire, enjoy 20 years retirement, die.

If people start living much longer this timetable doesn't make sense, and we are going to see very different social structures.


Take out the "20 years" and nothing in that list really fails to make sense whether people are living to 80 or 180. Maybe people would extend their education, have kids later, work longer, do more after retirement. I'm not saying we definitely *wouldn't* see "very different social structures" instead of a simple stretch in the timetable (which is already happening), just that it seems to me that they aren't required.

/would happily stick around for another century or two, so...make it happen, Science
 
2013-10-22 03:32:48 AM
This article is ridiculously stupid.

As for Emily and Sarah: Likely as not they are the breadwinners in their households, given that even now, 40 percent of mothers are the primary earners in their households, a trend that shows no signs of abating.  In scenario G, Sarah and Emily by 2030 are the ones who go off to Spacely Space Sprockets every morning and leave a male partner-husband, boyfriend, cohabitant-in charge of the dog and the kids.

So, because 40% of mothers are the primary breadwinner, both of them are breadwinners?  When does 1+1=60?  Well done, Slate.
 
2013-10-22 03:36:25 AM

rocky_howard: It's not that "we think", it's that most men would take a younger version, because why not? What's next? Forcing men to court grannies?


Another point - part of it would be female's acceptance level for older partners.  On average 'trophy wives' only accrue to those with the resources to attract them despite their age.  Not everybody gets them.

As for the article itself, I can't help but consider my own family tree and figure that we're already mostly there.  The 'traditional'* nuclear family is already mostly gone, if it wasn't a mostly a myth** in the first place.

One of my ideas ties into the current fact that the children of younger women(and men) tend to be smarter with less defects than the children of older women.  The theory is that at some point the system of delaying pregnancy and birth reaches a critical point and we flip to a system where young adults have the kids(and by young I'm thinking 15-25), and the grandparents who are now financially established(30-50) takes care of the kids.  With expected lifespans well over 100, they have more time to raise the kids than our ancestors did raising their own.

*In quotes because it was only really 'normal' for about 2-3 generations after WWII.
**My immediate family was nuclear, but we were pretty much the only ones in our extended family...
 
2013-10-22 03:51:17 AM
No...because my spouse is super-awesome.
 
2013-10-22 04:19:21 AM
Am I the only one that wouldn't have a problem with this?

/lucky me... an actual happy marriage.
 
2013-10-22 05:26:50 AM
There was a time when most marriages were arranged, and this time has very little to recommend it. The trannsition to a setup where marriage was the decision of the people being married has been almost completely worthwhile. But they did understand one thing that we have forgotten: love is not something that just happens to people. It has to be deliberately cultivated, then carefully maintained, and sometimes even completely rebuilt, and if you don't do this, it dies.

In a society where we live to 150 or even longer, this will only become more important to rediscover. Unfortunately, resistance to the idea will probably also become stronger, and people will only become more miserable, and relationships less stable, for that,
 
2013-10-22 06:49:11 AM

simplicimus: Probably a future of term-limited marriage contracts and breeding permits, ala Larry Niven.


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2013-10-22 07:07:22 AM

DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.


This. I don't mean to sound smug, but I never understood the crowd of people badmouthing marriage. If you're unhappy and it's turned into some sort of asexual cohabitation that doesn't bring you any happiness, get divorced. Or you shouldn't have married in the first place. I've only been married 7 years (this month) but its flown by and I'm even more convinced it was the best thing I ever did.
 
2013-10-22 07:19:00 AM

WinoRhino: DamnYankees: I know its rather unironic to say so, but I love my wife more than anything in the world. An extra 60 years would be fine with me.

This. I don't mean to sound smug, but I never understood the crowd of people badmouthing marriage. If you're unhappy and it's turned into some sort of asexual cohabitation that doesn't bring you any happiness, get divorced. Or you shouldn't have married in the first place. I've only been married 7 years (this month) but its flown by and I'm even more convinced it was the best thing I ever did.


Nor I. I was 40 when I met my husband and spent a lot of years alone - and lonesome - prior. Maybe it's just good fortune, but he's made my life a very happy and very funny one. I can't imagine not wanting to spend 100 years with him.

Happy Anniversary to you and the Mrs.
 
2013-10-22 08:32:22 AM

Candygram4Mongo: Actually, I'm kind of okay with this...


Something to be OK with then: Centenarian cougars.
 
KIA
2013-10-22 08:36:10 AM
People continually miss the point of advanced medical tech. The idea is you would be healthy and fit for extended periods of time, no different than, say, your 20's. There is no reason to retire. There is no reason not to have sex because reproduction control is part of advanced health tech, as is venereal health. Essentially, humans may truly mature and have relations for the right reasons and stay with them as long or short a time as the relationship stays good.

It is a beautiful dream, but one I wouldn't mind living for a few millenia.
 
2013-10-22 09:32:48 AM
Kill yourself?  You got that part wrong.

Like my father said on his 40th wedding anniversary:  "If I'd just killed her instead of marrying her, I'd be a free man right now."
 
2013-10-22 09:55:10 AM

Endive Wombat: If we can live to 150, perhaps there wont be such a rush to hurry through school, standardized testing, college, finding a career, getting married, having kids, buying a house, etc....


It would absolutely depend on when women would still hit menopause in her 40's/50's. Even if we are able to delay menopause, we'd have to consider the health of later pregnancies as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if couples became swingers/open-marriages after the fertility is gone and the kids are raised. Marriage would be more of an economic partnership rather than a pretty princess happy ending crap-show (like it should be).
 
2013-10-22 10:04:16 AM

KIA: People continually miss the point of advanced medical tech. The idea is you would be healthy and fit for extended periods of time, no different than, say, your 20's. There is no reason to retire. There is no reason not to have sex because reproduction control is part of advanced health tech, as is venereal health. Essentially, humans may truly mature and have relations for the right reasons and stay with them as long or short a time as the relationship stays good.

It is a beautiful dream, but one I wouldn't mind living for a few millenia.


This. QFT.
 
2013-10-22 11:16:25 AM
admittedly I'm only 11 years in, but challengeaccepted.jpg

I think we could do it. I'd love to try.
 
2013-10-22 11:29:24 AM
namatad:
Varley and Heinlein writing about relationships and sexual identity are legendary.

After reading and enjoying Heinlein, even teenage me wasn't able to take his projections about sex very seriously.  He had such an obvious "tee hee" attitude sometimes, no matter how good his ideas were.

Ghastly:
Just wait until nano-technology infuses your body with an army of microscopic robots that not only automatically repair any damage to your body but will modify it as need be. Want to go deep sea diving? No problem we'll just whip you up a set of gills and a body that can withstand the pressures at 700 feet. Oh no shark! We'll when we sense the pressure points of the bites we'll create armour in those areas to protect you. Now just sit back and enjoy the ride until he gets tired of chomping on you and realizes you're inedible.

Now that would be a cool future. Every hundred years or so when you get sick of your physical appearance you can just program yourself a new one. Given thousands of years of life and an ever expanding exploration of the universe who even knows if there would be anyone left who even bothers looking like anything we once called human.
TENTACLE DICKS EVERYWHERE

No shame, G, we know what you're really thinking ;)
 
2013-10-22 02:52:46 PM

JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?


Depends on how much help and service and advice you could give to others, especially younger people, with your experience.
 
2013-10-22 05:35:25 PM

ISO15693: JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?

Depends on how much help and service and advice you could give to others, especially younger people, with your experience.


Advice from old people - that's something young people can't get enough of!
 
2013-10-22 05:37:20 PM

noitsnot: ISO15693: JonBuck: Living that long would only be worthwhile if your body stayed youthful into your 130s. What's the point of living to 150 if you spend 80 years in a wheelchair?

Depends on how much help and service and advice you could give to others, especially younger people, with your experience.

Advice from old people - that's something young people can't get enough of!


That statement is correct on so many levels.
 
2013-10-22 09:38:18 PM

KawhostaYucwy: Am I the only one that wouldn't have a problem with this?

/lucky me... an actual happy marriage.


Yes, you are the only one. The very first of all the 151 comments in this thread is utterly meaningless. Ignore it entirely.
 
2013-10-23 09:09:39 AM
To answer the question, yes.
 
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