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(Washington Post)   New list of "hot" careers for up-and-coming college grads indicate that these newfangled computing machines might be worth a look-see   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 97
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2013-10-21 03:46:33 PM
That's cool about data mining.  I've always thought a bunch of it was a consequence of maintaining a system and/or process...which may be why the salary is lower.  Well, that and many companies will often hire entry level for mundane database work (when permanent hiring...otherwise they pay a bunch for a consult).
 
2013-10-21 04:00:21 PM
It's either computer nerd, or changing the shiatty diaper of an 90 year old alzheimer's patient in a nursing home.  Pick your poison, kids.
 
2013-10-21 04:05:01 PM
so computers
 
2013-10-21 04:58:54 PM
Screw computers, my kid's gonna go into buggy whip manufacturing...
 
2013-10-21 04:59:51 PM
Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.
 
2013-10-21 05:00:19 PM
s.mcstatic.com

"Everything is different, but the same... things are more moderner than before... bigger, and yet smaller... it's computers and stuff"
 
2013-10-21 05:00:35 PM
hahahaha putting the baby boomers out to pasture ......DIE BABY BOOMERS DIE
 
2013-10-21 05:00:42 PM
I read that list and started having flashbacks to my time spent at Initech.

So I settled for a job where I have to wear 37 pieces of flair.
 
2013-10-21 05:04:55 PM
Its a fad.
 
2013-10-21 05:06:00 PM
Wow think I will switch now to management analyst or a PR specialist, they both seem pretty useless. Alright back to fixing typewriters for me.
 
2013-10-21 05:06:20 PM

SoundOfOneHandWanking: Its a fad.


filmdope.com

/RIP, Bruno.
 
2013-10-21 05:06:59 PM

Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?


"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?
 
2013-10-21 05:08:44 PM

gopher321: Screw computers, my kid's gonna go into buggy whip manufacturing...


By the time he's grown up, it might be relevant again...
 
2013-10-21 05:10:32 PM
"Plastics."

www.tvworthwatching.com
 
2013-10-21 05:12:22 PM
Insurance Sales sounds like an uplifting career choice.
 
2013-10-21 05:15:23 PM
This is a steaming load of crap and nonsense.
 
2013-10-21 05:19:45 PM
or 10 ten careers that will make you want to blow your brains out 6 months after being hired.
 
2013-10-21 05:22:14 PM
Wait so they just chose to omit EE simply because it's harder? I can understand saying they don't want to consider careers that require an advanced degree but you can do a lot with just a bachelors in engineering.
 
2013-10-21 05:22:37 PM
I didn't see sous-chef anywhere on that list.

I've made a horrible mistake.

/I really have.
 
2013-10-21 05:25:42 PM

VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?


Fruitfully employed and promoted in another area.  :)
Though 2 years ago is when I got out of IT.


I'm just expecting market saturation a coming down the road..
 
2013-10-21 05:26:11 PM

inclemency: I didn't see sous-chef anywhere on that list.

I've made a horrible mistake.

/I really have.


Food service/product, no matter where you are at in the chain, sucks balls. I make twice what the executive chef made at the 4 star hotel I worked as a station cook.

//software dev/systems analyst.
 
2013-10-21 05:26:22 PM
List is FAIL without Information Security careers.
 
2013-10-21 05:27:27 PM

bigbobowski: or 10 ten careers that will make you want to blow your brains out 6 months after being hired.


THIS
 
2013-10-21 05:31:00 PM
Yep, spend a lot on higher education. They will outsource your computer work, and they will import cheap doctors and nurses. Oh, and all the teaching jobs will be given to untrained 22-25 years olds working for private education companies.

/I am grouchy today
 
2013-10-21 05:33:42 PM
B-But all the experts say computers are dead. We're all supposed to be using those tablet things now.
 
2013-10-21 05:35:16 PM

Best Princess Celestia: VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?

Fruitfully employed and promoted in another area.  :)
Though 2 years ago is when I got out of IT.


I'm just expecting market saturation a coming down the road..


as a women i hated working in IT, bunch of boys clubs, i don't blame you.
 
2013-10-21 05:39:25 PM
can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience
 
2013-10-21 05:41:08 PM

gopher321: Screw computers, my kid's gonna go into buggy whip manufacturing...


Kinky! Fetish gear is rather pricey, or so I have read on the internet.
 
2013-10-21 05:41:42 PM

Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience


Entry-level jobs that don't require years of experience?  Do those even exist anymore?
 
2013-10-21 05:41:59 PM
Many machines on Ix.  New machines.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-10-21 05:43:17 PM

gingerjet: List is FAIL without Information Security careers.


So says the ITT Tech salesman representative.
 
2013-10-21 05:43:45 PM

NeoCortex42: Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience

Entry-level jobs that don't require years of experience?  Do those even exist anymore?


my question is you want a BA and 10 years of experience? how does that work?


/ lookout for the bootstrap brigade
 
2013-10-21 05:49:00 PM

Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience


Those are not entry level salaries those are mean salaries.
For example, the programming jobs: Around here you would need 8-10 years and a BS to earn ~100k.
but you could get there much sooner in say DC or the SF Bay area.
 
2013-10-21 05:51:47 PM

bigbobowski: or 10 ten careers that will make you want to blow your brains out 6 months after being hired.


I am a sys admin and I like it.
 
2013-10-21 05:51:54 PM

Sticky Hands: Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience

Those are not entry level salaries those are mean salaries.
For example, the programming jobs: Around here you would need 8-10 years and a BS to earn ~100k.
but you could get there much sooner in say DC or the SF Bay area.


here's a hint, you dont always need a BS.
 
2013-10-21 06:01:49 PM
Just to show you how rusty my web skills are,  I don't even know how to make a <OL> /<OL> section with two number ones (just in case of ties)
 
2013-10-21 06:06:12 PM

VivianVivisect: Sticky Hands: Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience

Those are not entry level salaries those are mean salaries.
For example, the programming jobs: Around here you would need 8-10 years and a BS to earn ~100k.
but you could get there much sooner in say DC or the SF Bay area.

here's a hint, you dont always need a BS.


True,  but it's a hell of a lot easier to get past HR if you have one.

and some places (like the local Air Force Base apparently...) won't even process your application without transcripts.
 
2013-10-21 06:09:37 PM

kasmel: inclemency: I didn't see sous-chef anywhere on that list.

I've made a horrible mistake.

/I really have.

Food service/product, no matter where you are at in the chain, sucks balls. I make twice what the executive chef made at the 4 star hotel I worked as a station cook.

//software dev/systems analyst.


for far less hours too :-)

I know. I'm good at what I do though and while I have high mathematical aptitude and a high iq, I'm not suited to mainstream positions. The chaos in my degrading position is comforting. When I figure out a career I'm better suited to that will cater to my ADD and not exacerbate my alcoholism while not killing my soul or aggravating my feelings of guilt I'll switch in a heartbeat... I'm definetely thinking of a career reboot but my criteria is quite narrow.
 
2013-10-21 06:09:38 PM

VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?

Fruitfully employed and promoted in another area.  :)
Though 2 years ago is when I got out of IT.


I'm just expecting market saturation a coming down the road..

as a women i hated working in IT, bunch of boys clubs, i don't blame you.


Heh...come for the sexism, stay for the ageism.
 
2013-10-21 06:12:15 PM

gopher321: Screw computers, my kid's gonna go into buggy whip manufacturing...


Oh, I don't know...I'm encouraging my nephew to learn how to lubricate a Babbage engine.
 
2013-10-21 06:15:17 PM

VivianVivisect: Sticky Hands: Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?  If these are great fields for people to select bachelor's for, please show the jobs that they can apply for with said degree and minimal (1-2 years) or no experience

Those are not entry level salaries those are mean salaries.
For example, the programming jobs: Around here you would need 8-10 years and a BS to earn ~100k.
but you could get there much sooner in say DC or the SF Bay area.

here's a hint, you dont always need a BS.


you hit the glass ceiling pretty quick if you dont, tho.
 
2013-10-21 06:19:45 PM

VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?

Fruitfully employed and promoted in another area.  :)
Though 2 years ago is when I got out of IT.


I'm just expecting market saturation a coming down the road..

as a women i hated working in IT, bunch of boys clubs, i don't blame you.


*clicks profile*

Well, see here ma'am here's your problem, you live and work in orange county.

i work in SF, its a lot of things up here but a "boys club" it certainly aint. if anything you feel odd being a hetero white guy since there are so few of em.
 
2013-10-21 06:24:24 PM
This is really helpful for people without advanced math skills and language aptitude. And an Aspergery introverted personality that thinks it's FUN to code for 20 hours straight. Most people (including me) couldn't become programmers if you threatened to set them on fire.

/However, I rock at PR, which very few programmers could do at gunpoint.
 
2013-10-21 06:25:54 PM

Father_Jack: VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: VivianVivisect: Best Princess Celestia: Come next March when the new list is release naming all those as the worst growth areas.


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

"The unemployment rate among U.S. IT workers stood at 3.3% in the fourth quarter of 2012, significantly lower than the overall unemployment rate of 7.8%, according to tech job board Dice. " --Computerworld

geez were have you been in the last 2 years?

Fruitfully employed and promoted in another area.  :)
Though 2 years ago is when I got out of IT.


I'm just expecting market saturation a coming down the road..

as a women i hated working in IT, bunch of boys clubs, i don't blame you.

*clicks profile*

Well, see here ma'am here's your problem, you live and work in orange county.

i work in SF, its a lot of things up here but a "boys club" it certainly aint. if anything you feel odd being a hetero white guy since there are so few of em.


its so true father, you have no idea. i would love to do IT in SF area
 
2013-10-21 06:34:23 PM

Hyjamon: can anyone post actual job opening advertisements for entry level positions that match the mean annual salaries quoted in the article?



Why would you expect an entry level position to earn the industry average salary?
 
2013-10-21 06:35:40 PM
geeks' revenge!
 
2013-10-21 06:40:48 PM
some days i think id rather herd goats than look at these damn screens and click the buttons all day.
 
2013-10-21 06:43:03 PM
www.thehindu.com

The IT business is BOOMING... in India.

Sucks for you western programmers.  But then, it's YOUR FAULT for not willing to take a $300 yearly salary.   Gotta stay competitive!

Oh well, you can always rely on your IT union to fight for your industry... OH!   THAT'S RIGHT!   YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!
 
2013-10-21 06:45:22 PM
Accounting is there, it was there when I went to school in the 70's, and it will always be there.
 
2013-10-21 06:45:32 PM

LikeALeafOnTheWind: some days i think id rather herd goats than look at these damn screens and click the buttons all day.


That's just your soul peeking through. Quell it, drone.
 
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