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(Boston.com)   Boston company invents bicycle with motor for people who don't like to pedal uphill   (boston.com) divider line 90
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2013-10-21 01:43:43 PM
The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.
 
2013-10-21 02:01:23 PM
So it's a big spring that winds when you go downhill and unwinds when you go uphill? How 21st Century!
 
2013-10-21 02:03:49 PM
so....a motorcycle?
 
2013-10-21 02:23:55 PM

serial_crusher: The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.


Yeah, that was unbelievably dumb, and will probably be outlawed nearly immediately. They should have just had a bluetooth throttle button or something you can put on your handlebars. Otherwise, not a bad idea.
 
2013-10-21 02:48:36 PM

somedude210: so....a motorcycle?


Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...
 
2013-10-21 02:49:13 PM
This technology has been out there for wheelchairs for quite some time.
 
2013-10-21 02:49:40 PM
The Copenhagen wheel sounds like the name of a grift. "We were going to pull the Copenhagen Wheel on him, but we couldn't find a look-alike or a mascot suit."
 
2013-10-21 02:50:00 PM
Don't they already have that?
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2013-10-21 02:50:58 PM

Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...


You had hurt my feelings, so I sat in the corner and moped.
 
2013-10-21 02:51:02 PM

Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...


I see where you're going with this, but PedMo just sounds too much like Pedo.  It will never catch on.
 
2013-10-21 02:51:50 PM
 
2013-10-21 02:52:21 PM
i221.photobucket.com

Hipsters have been riding them since before they were invented
 
2013-10-21 02:52:58 PM
Did they invent it the same way Columbus discovered America?
 
2013-10-21 02:53:06 PM
FTA -  The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says.

So now I have to charge my phone before I can ride my bike?  This is really annoying.  Just what the hipsters need..the ibike

If I get a call while riding doe the bike stop?
 
2013-10-21 02:53:14 PM

Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...


I hear it will be very fun to ride until your friends find out about it.
 
2013-10-21 02:53:47 PM
This doesn't look particularly new. I've seen lots of e-bikes where I live. I'm totally OK with e-bikes. Anything that can get the 90 year olds on bikes and out of cars is OK with me. I think your average farmer's market can handle a 90 year old plowing into the place with a bike better than it can handle a 90 year old plowing into the place in a 1983 Lincoln Town Car.
 
2013-10-21 02:54:34 PM

HailRobonia: The Copenhagen wheel sounds like the name of a grift. "We were going to pull the Copenhagen Wheel on him, but we couldn't find a look-alike or a mascot suit."


I was thinking it was more like a Cleveland Steamer.
 
2013-10-21 02:54:43 PM
Basically, a kind of Formula 1 KERS system for bikes.

Not sure though if I like the idea a cyclist messing around with a cell phone while riding. If bad for car drivers, it must be bad to the nth power for cyclists.
 
2013-10-21 02:55:59 PM
What they should invent is a chair that has wheels on it, so that someone else can push you around!
 
2013-10-21 02:58:47 PM
Meh.  I'll stick with my Tarmac.
 
2013-10-21 02:59:28 PM

serial_crusher: The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.


TFA sucks. Much better info at the linked site. Seems like a pretty smart system that will store a bit of your energy when you're going fast under your own power, then give that energy back to you when you're going slow, using a lot of your own power (hills, headwind, crosswind, maybe even during acceleration).

Seems like a nice system for an A-to-B commuting cyclist.
 
2013-10-21 03:00:55 PM
Anyone with a smartass remark, couldja read TFA? It doesn't refer to normal mopeds or electric bikes. It's a wheel that uses an internal motor, batteries and regenerative braking to provide boost when you want it.

Now, if I hadn't read TFA, I'd have mentioned this:

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2013-10-21 03:02:19 PM

waterrockets: serial_crusher: The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.

TFA sucks. Much better info at the linked site. Seems like a pretty smart system that will store a bit of your energy when you're going fast under your own power, then give that energy back to you when you're going slow, using a lot of your own power (hills, headwind, crosswind, maybe even during acceleration).

Seems like a nice system for an A-to-B commuting cyclist.


...and then I re-read the part about changing gears on the phone. That stinks. There's got to be a non-touchscreen way to change freaking gears.
 
2013-10-21 03:02:34 PM

Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...


How about... mobylette?
 
2013-10-21 03:02:37 PM
Mopeds were great till DMV decided they were motorcycles.
 
2013-10-21 03:02:39 PM
that was not what I was expecting

so it's a bicycle with a flywheel
 
2013-10-21 03:03:34 PM
Similar to this I take it?

http://gizmodo.com/ride-faster-and-smarter-with-this-self-charging-e le ctri-1445826584

I mean how hard is it to put a batter, motor, and alternator inside those?  I've seen things like this for years, just not linked to phones.
 
2013-10-21 03:04:03 PM
Hey, how else is Google going to deliver you to the paying advertiser if they can't control your bike via your google glasses and smartphone. This is just the logical next step, er uh, pedal, forward.
 
2013-10-21 03:04:46 PM
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2013-10-21 03:05:19 PM

hp6sa: Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...

I see where you're going with this, but PedMo just sounds too much like Pedo.  It will never catch on.


Nah, they just need good marketing. Maybe some catchy branding, too, like some kind of mascot. A bear, perhaps.
 
2013-10-21 03:07:47 PM
I don't get it. It does look like a wheel, but how will this help on a hill?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-21 03:10:58 PM
This  is a Kinetic Energy Recovery system.  It stores the energy that would otherwise be disapated as heat during braking.  The more you brake the more energy you store.   So the trick is to ride with the brake on.  Brilitant!
 
2013-10-21 03:12:08 PM

waterrockets: waterrockets: serial_crusher: The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.

TFA sucks. Much better info at the linked site. Seems like a pretty smart system that will store a bit of your energy when you're going fast under your own power, then give that energy back to you when you're going slow, using a lot of your own power (hills, headwind, crosswind, maybe even during acceleration).

Seems like a nice system for an A-to-B commuting cyclist.

...and then I re-read the part about changing gears on the phone. That stinks. There's got to be a non-touchscreen way to change freaking gears.


iPhone dock electric moped thingy.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2421702,00.asp

fairly straightforward.  There's an app for that.  install a little switch the same spot you have for mechanical gear shifts only make it electronic and have it linked to the iPhone through the dock.  Basically a boost button.
 
2013-10-21 03:12:48 PM

waterrockets: Much better info at the linked site.


Much better.  It apparently is controlled using a Bluetooth interface.

Main issue I see is with having a smartphone as the control device.  Most smartphones aren't weather resistant, so either you shell out extra for a weather resistant housing or take the risk that your phone might be damaged in a rainstorm.  Also, a smartphone in a cradle might be tempting to a thief.  All you need is for some punk to run or skate up from behind you and swipe it.  Or some dude leans out a car window and grabs it as the light turns green.  Having a bike, you might be able to chase them down and catch them, especially if there is traffic, but it would be a PITA.  And then there is the possibility of the thief having a knife or friends in wait.

I'd much rather have a small weatherproof control module mounted to the handlebars so I can keep my smartphone tucked away.
 
2013-10-21 03:13:38 PM

brandent: waterrockets: waterrockets: serial_crusher: The wheel is controlled through a rider's smartphone, the company says

Well, that sounds safe.

TFA sucks. Much better info at the linked site. Seems like a pretty smart system that will store a bit of your energy when you're going fast under your own power, then give that energy back to you when you're going slow, using a lot of your own power (hills, headwind, crosswind, maybe even during acceleration).

Seems like a nice system for an A-to-B commuting cyclist.

...and then I re-read the part about changing gears on the phone. That stinks. There's got to be a non-touchscreen way to change freaking gears.

iPhone dock electric moped thingy.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2421702,00.asp

fairly straightforward.  There's an app for that.  install a little switch the same spot you have for mechanical gear shifts only make it electronic and have it linked to the iPhone through the dock.  Basically a boost button.


I'd just like to point out that the article I linked to says 30 million electric bicycles are sold in China every year.  The US is way behind.
 
2013-10-21 03:15:56 PM

hp6sa: Uzzah: somedude210: so....a motorcycle?

Duh. No.

It has both a motor and pedals. There's got to be some kind of catchy name we can give it...

I see where you're going with this, but PedMo just sounds too much like Pedo.  It will never catch on.


Isn't that already a name for a homosexual crossing the street?
 
2013-10-21 03:17:08 PM

brandent: I'd just like to point out that the article I linked to says 30 million electric bicycles are sold in China every year. The US is way behind.


How much do they cost there?  I bet it's cheaper than the $750+ they want for them over here.  I would get one if they were resonablely priced and I didn't have to drop kids off and pickup before/after work.  I thought about riding my bike to work a few years ago but all of the hills around me would make that trip too much.
 
2013-10-21 03:17:52 PM
Andy Botwin is gonna make a fortune.

e.fastcompany.net
 
2013-10-21 03:18:26 PM
Why yes, it was made by a Boston man - in 1869:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-21 03:20:18 PM

brandent: fairly straightforward. There's an app for that. install a little switch the same spot you have for mechanical gear shifts only make it electronic and have it linked to the iPhone through the dock. Basically a boost button.


Or, you know, it could just have a farking wire. But that wouldn't be nearly wasteful of energy cool enough.
 
2013-10-21 03:22:50 PM

brandent: I'd just like to point out that the article I linked to says 30 million electric bicycles are sold in China every year. The US is way behind


I prefer to think we're just tougher and don't need it, but I know that's a lie.  We're just a nation of fat car drivers.
 
2013-10-21 03:25:33 PM

somedude210: so....a motorcycle?


Well... basically yes, but we'll just pretend you didn't say anything.
 
2013-10-21 03:27:01 PM
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2013-10-21 03:27:40 PM
i288.photobucket.com.

If you don't have a motor you may have to walk it up hills
 
2013-10-21 03:28:17 PM

serial_crusher: brandent: I'd just like to point out that the article I linked to says 30 million electric bicycles are sold in China every year. The US is way behind

I prefer to think we're just tougher and don't need it, but I know that's a lie.  We're just a nation of fat car drivers.


There are just a lot of Chinese who can't afford a car. If they could, they wouldn't be buying electric bikes. The only reason they buy those is that they're cheaper than motorcycles. They're not as fast as Americans on average, because more than half the population are still subsistence farmers, but Chinese who live in cities are rapidly catching up to First World obesity rates.
 
2013-10-21 03:29:15 PM

mbillips: serial_crusher: brandent: I'd just like to point out that the article I linked to says 30 million electric bicycles are sold in China every year. The US is way behind

I prefer to think we're just tougher and don't need it, but I know that's a lie.  We're just a nation of fat car drivers.

There are just a lot of Chinese who can't afford a car. If they could, they wouldn't be buying electric bikes. The only reason they buy those is that they're cheaper than motorcycles. They're not as fast  fatas Americans on average, because more than half the population are still subsistence farmers, but Chinese who live in cities are rapidly catching up to First World obesity rates.


FTFM
 
2013-10-21 03:29:24 PM
These have been around for a while.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-21 03:30:28 PM
I want a bike with an electric motor. When I'm pedaling or going downhill it recharges the battery so I can use the motor when I get tired. And I don't want to connect my iPhone to it.
 
2013-10-21 03:33:55 PM
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2013-10-21 03:36:15 PM
Many things wrong here.

First, changing gears by phone instead of by a shifter.  Suck.

Second, three-speed?  Suck, unless the ground is relatively flat.

Also they show a bike with only a rear brake, which is extremely dangerous; you can only get 1/10 of the braking force off the rear brake as you can from the front.  The front brake is the correct brake to use in most situations:  the rear brake is dangerous due to potential for loss of control as the rear wheel loses traction.  Granted, I've had my front wheel skid when braking on high-end tires on dry concrete, and that was catastrophic (that bike went down hard); but the rear wheel will do it much more quickly, without offering anywhere near as much braking force, and cause your bike to fishtail and dump you sideways into oncoming traffic.

Luckily, you can easily add a brake to the front wheel.  But how do you add shifters?  You can't.  You'd have to add a rear derailleur.
 
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