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(WTOP)   Study says spanking your child could lead to future aggression, but only if you are doing it wrong   (wtop.com) divider line 48
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2013-10-21 01:25:27 PM  
5 votes:
I've said it many times: If you have to spank a 3-5 year old, you are the loser. You have to actually put in WORK to raise good kids. Lazy parents spank because they are lazy.
2013-10-21 01:56:44 PM  
3 votes:

Nana's Vibrator: you're misguided and lazy for striking a 3-5 year old, as there are better ways to get a child's attention and teach them how to properly behave and react.


Very true.

doggonest.com

I know that it has a picture of a dog on it, but they work on kids, too...
2013-10-21 01:37:07 PM  
3 votes:

Best Princess Celestia: And if you dont discipline them, you get the young generations of today.


Yes, it's a good idea to project your failings onto an entire generation of people, and think that violence directed at children magically transforms into discipline, in direct contradiction to the quite serious evidence presented in the article.

Discipline is having a set bedtime.  Spankings are immature overreaction by parents who should-not-be.
2013-10-21 01:35:55 PM  
3 votes:
You mean using violence and aggression to get children to obey might teach them to use violence and aggression to get others to obey them?
2013-10-21 01:34:04 PM  
3 votes:

mediablitz: I've said it many times: If you have to spank a 3-5 year old, you are the loser. You have to actually put in WORK to raise good kids. Lazy parents spank because they are lazy.


Oversimplification.
2013-10-21 01:32:04 PM  
3 votes:
And if you dont discipline them, you get the young generations of today.
2013-10-21 03:21:16 PM  
2 votes:

mafiageek1980: The_Sponge: mafiageek1980: 1). Is there a safeword involved? Otherwise, unless you pre-discussed it with your bottom/submissive/other, it's wrong.
2). Again, Spanking=hitting. There's no other way around it. YOU doing it with your lover (provided it was consensual/have a safeword/have their permission) is one thing. Hitting a child that has no say-so in the matter IS abuse and is hitting.


1) No, but I start out so light it doesn't really matter.....it's more like a tap.

2) I've never had the need for a safe word just because I'm not into the really kinky stuff.

Yes, it does because you are hitting (light or not) the person. By NOT asking them BEFORE you do it, that deems it non-consensual in the adult case, which means, your lover could have technically filed assault charges against you if they really wanted to. You don't have to be into that kinky stuff to have respect for a person and ASK if they ENJOY being hit before you do it.


Why doesn't this apply equally to EVERY aspect of sexytime?

"I'm going to gently stroke your inner thigh.  Is this acceptable?  If you'd like me to stop, say 'Thursday.'"
2013-10-21 02:58:09 PM  
2 votes:
*has a kid

I think every comment on such topics should be started by stating whether or not the commenter has a kid..
2013-10-21 02:32:36 PM  
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Seriously, all you "anti-spanking" people must not have kids. Let the childless dictate parenting, no wonder this current generation of kids are fat, bullied, Nintendo-playing chumps.

I speak from experience on this, as my step-son Kody used to be one of 'em. Little shiat had all the latest games and would still smart mouth his mom and I. That came to a stop after I showed him the belt a few times and cut the wire on his game. Now all he's says is "yes sir" or "no sir" and he spends about half the day out in the woods hunting and skinning squirrels.

The only thing we had to discipline him for recently was taking his buck knife to school, but it was an honest mistake on his part and he owned up to it.

Bottom line is my daddy spanked me and I turned out fine, and now I spank my son and it's done a world of good for that boy.


--------

All spanking did for me is teach me to fight back and develop a high tolerance for pain and a complete hatred for authority. I guess I can thank it for making me learn not to take shiat from anyone and learning how to fight. Hit me? I hit back--come at me bro. Authority must never be followed blindly--sometimes it DOES need to be questioned. I guess the difference is that I was being spanked for no reason. I was a very square kid with controlling parents who didn't get into trouble. What they were doing to me was wrong.

/Female
//Could completely take out my 6'3'' 350+lb father who had military training.
2013-10-21 01:57:14 PM  
2 votes:
I am firmly in the anti-spanking group. That said, if you're going to have clearly communicated rules for your child and spank them as punishment then go ahead because I think spanking or no spanking as long as the communication is clear and there is punishment/rewards the kid will learn the same thing.

All that said these kinds of studies are terrible. Maybe children who are spanked have more aggression because:
-they are more aggressive which frustrates their parents which leads the parents to spanking as a last resort
-the child is genetically more aggressive and the genetically more aggressive parent has a tendency to spank
-the parents have to discipline more because they have ineffective parenting techniques. Ineffective parenting techniques also lead to the child being aggressive.
-reporting bias
-the few parents who do abuse their children are all spankers which skews the whole thing

People who are going to make huge sweeping conclusions like "Children are bad because they aren't spanked." clearly don't care about science. Further, anyone who uses any version of "Kids these days" have completely lost my attention as soon as they say that phrase. I know a bunch of teachers, and although we mock teachers non-stop, they are supposed to be the experts in teaching/disciplining children. There is no current school of thought that teaches them to spank. So there is that.
2013-10-21 01:55:05 PM  
2 votes:

barefoot in the head: Resorting to punishment is rejection of discipline. Learn the difference and stop harmimg people.


Well, humans do respond to positive and negative reinforcement, but raising a child shouldn't be done with the same intent as domesticating a dog.

//Also, I've never seen anyone who hits a dog raise a particularly friendly dog, only cowardly or aggressive.
2013-10-21 01:51:22 PM  
2 votes:
I think either you guys are over complicating the issue or over simplifying the issue. My parents raised 6 of us and were of the opinion that the reason children had buttocks was for spanking. Now here's the thing: my parents NEVER abused us and they weren't lazy about parenting all of us. We all grew up as close to normal as human beings can become, none of us are criminals, all of us are intelligent and have above average vocabularys. So much for bullshiat data that can be manipulated any way that the researcher desires. After observing the behavior of many children between the ages of 9 and 19 today...ass busting is not a bad idea and might have had really good results in curbing the violent disrepectful dumb as shiat tendencies they already display.
2013-10-22 03:29:38 AM  
1 votes:

FatherChaos: I think spanking is much more humane than doing this to a child.


Bought one of those for my godson. Little bugger knows not to wander off, and the parents know exactly where he is. Good thing it's still in good nick; they're having another kid...and they picked the name "Jace."

/That is not a real name, god damn it...
2013-10-21 11:59:16 PM  
1 votes:

Beeblebrox: Ain't nobody got time for that.  My dad saved it all up each night.  I deserved almost all of them and got away with a lot more.  Either that or my parents were just tired of it by then since I'm the youngest of 4 boys.

Mom used Hotwheels track to beat us.  I want to form a support group.


Heh. My brothers and I used to hit each other with Hot Wheels tracks. Mom & Dad whupped our asses with a belt when we acted up. Mom couldn't hit us very hard, and we always laughed and said, "Oooh, you're tickling me!" whenever she tried. Dad, however, could deliver a pretty good wallop with said belt.

I can think of only one time that I got the belt when I didn't deserve it. That was when Younger Brother stuck pins in his hand and said that I did it. When Dad finally got the truth out of him, Younger Brother got the butt-whuppin of all butt-whuppins.

All three of us attended college, and none of us became violent criminals.

The_Sponge: No, proper spanking is not abuse.

/Hated it when I was a kid.
//Told myself I would never do it as a parent.
///But now that I'm older and I see so many kids acting like little shiats, I would properly do it if I became a father.
////Was spanked and ended up just fine.


There was a time when I thought that perhaps Dad went a little overboard with the spankings (if one of us dared to act up in public, we got the belt right then and there. 'Twas usually Younger Brother; Older Brother and I knew better), but that changed after I became an adult. I hate shopping during the day because there are so many unsupervised, undisciplined kids running around whose parents don't give a damn about their public behavior; you can tell that they've never spanked their kids.

A few years ago, I took my mom to a Mervyn's store to do some shopping. She was looking at clothes in the Women's section when she was knocked down by two girls (probably around 9 - 11) who were running around the store. Mom is an elderly woman who uses a cane. I helped her get up, then yelled at and went after the girls. They ran to their mother, who yelled at me for yelling at her kids. A store employee finally came over to sort things out (by then, there was a small crowd of people gathered around). The girls' mother said that the kids were "just playing;" I said, "THIS IS A STORE, NOT A PLAYGROUND!" All of us were asked to leave the store (which Mom & I did, gladly. I never went to that place again). Neither the biatch nor her spawn apologized for knocking my mother to the ground. I should've grabbed Mom's cane and beat the little shiats.
2013-10-21 07:29:42 PM  
1 votes:

thurstonxhowell: mafiageek1980: Secondly, I'm sure if EVERY kid who got spanked and turned violent, crime would be a HELL of a lot worse than it already is.

You're absolutely right. In a similar vein, some people who smoke never get lung cancer. Therefore, smoking and lung cancer can't be linked.

What's that, no one said that everybody who smokes gets lung cancer? Interesting, that. Now, back to the topic of all of those many people who said that every child who is spanked turned violent.


That's the thing that I think is missing from these studies:  spanking means very different things in households.  I know some parents use it as a primary punishments and others who only bring it out for egregious stuff.  Some try to inflict as much pain as possible some merely use enough to get the point across.  Some parents even make the kids take down their pants.

I think the outcome would vary wildly based on how and when the punishment was administered so to do a study without taking into account all of those variable it's pretty flawed.
2013-10-21 06:36:34 PM  
1 votes:
Participants: The Fragile Families and Child Wellbeing Study, the people who did the study even mention on their website that "The Fragile Families and Child Wellbeing Study is following a cohort of nearly 5,000 children born in large U.S. cities between 1998 and 2000 (roughly three-quarters of whom were born to unmarried parents). We refer to unmarried parents and their children as "fragile families" to underscore that they are families and that they are at greater risk of breaking up and living in poverty than more traditional families. "

Measure: "In the past month, have you spanked (child) because (he/she) was misbehaving or acting up?" The parent's responses were coded as no spanking in the past month, spanking once a week or less, and spanking twice or more each week." Asking about months and coding to weeks? And why not keep the original number? Continuous variables are harder to fudge by piling a lot of people in one category?

The model trying to predict rule breaking and aggression with only spanking has an R2 of 0.04. They need to add family situation to get to 0.10, maternal mental health en cognition to get to 0.14 and behaviour before age 3 to get to 0.23.

For vocabulary they start at 0.031 with spanking only and go to 0.28, 0.30 and 0.38 by adding family and child characteristics, maternal health and cognition, and scores before age 3 respectively.

We have a worthless methodology applied to a group of people of whom 75% are "at risk" and we are then making general statements based on that? And the spanking only model has an R2 of a mere 0.04? I'm not buying the conclusions of this article.
2013-10-21 05:33:22 PM  
1 votes:
Many of you are blessing us with the benefit of your theoretical parenting skills, and for that, I award you all one million theoretical dollars.  Be careful not to spend it all on hookers and blow.

Those of you from the "my parents spanked me and I hate them with the fury of a thousand men" camp should probably seek counseling as you were very likely physically and emotionally abused and much of your behavior on Fark is now more understandable.

My children have received spankings in the past.  My oldest has not received one in several years and she is a well-adjusted, respectful, fun-loving teenager.  Now that she is older, the threat of loss of her tablet/computer/TV privileges has enough of an effect on her that no further actions are required.

My younger ones (my sons) still get a swat on rare occasions, but it's only after repeated warnings and loss of privileges. I don't think I've had to paddle either of them in over a year.  We don't use our hands; we use a small paddle that was cut from a piece of cedar 1X4.  It makes a lot of noise with very little force behind it.  Many of you have been hit harder playing a game of punch-buggy on car trips than our kids have been spanked (those of you with helicopter parents probably haven't).

When we punish our children, we are careful to explain that we love them but we don't accept wrong behavior.  Correction of any sort hurts their feelings, and occasionally their bottoms, but they have no doubt in their minds that they are loved.  They seek us out for hugs multiple times a day, and they often walk by the room where we are sitting or working and look in just to say they love us.

Those of you who are screaming "SPANKING IS CHILD ABUSE AND YOU OUGHT TO BE IMPRISONED" at your monitors won't understand any of this, and you are certain to respond with a predictable amount of wharrgarbl. That's ok; freedom of speech entitles you to be as verbose in your errant opinions as you care to be.
2013-10-21 03:51:08 PM  
1 votes:

TheYeti: My daughter is too young for that whole thing just yet, but I have several friends that operate pretty much as above and it seems to work. I have never once seen any of the kids make it to five and have to get spanked.


If you do use the countdown method make sure you follow through and don't do the 3, 2, 1.5, 1, .5, .25 BS.  3,2,1,0 discipline.  My wife can't figure out why the counting works for me but not here when she's done counting she just starts again or yells at them to do what she had said.
2013-10-21 02:50:22 PM  
1 votes:

udhq: I didn't have a shiatty childhood, I just grew up with parents who had shiatty childhoods and never learned that using violence to get what you want is NEVER acceptable.

I taught myself that lesson and was able to live pretty much happily independent from about age 12.



It was shiatty enough where it just caused to you make a silly statement:


Every couple of years when they try to reestablish contact with me and my family, I send them the same form letter that as a consequence of their actions, they will go to their graves without ever having met their grandchildren.

I urge all children of spankers to do the same.



Really?  All people who were spanked as kids should disown their parents?

/Have a great relationship with my parents.
2013-10-21 02:47:40 PM  
1 votes:

The_Sponge: udhq: In the end, I lead a happy, healthy, totally nonviolent and successful life.

All spanking did to me was give me a seething hatred against idiots who need to use violence and fear to control their children, and a resolve to make sure that decision hurts my parents more than it ever did me.

Every couple of years when they try to reestablish contact with me and my family, I send them the same form letter that as a consequence of their actions, they will go to their graves without ever having met their grandchildren.

I urge all children of spankers to do the same.


Oh boo hoo.

Just because you had a shiatty childhood, don't expect me to disown my parents because I was spanked as a kid.


I didn't have a shiatty childhood, I just grew up with parents who had shiatty childhoods and never learned that using violence to get what you want is NEVER acceptable.

I taught myself that lesson and was able to live pretty much happily independent from about age 12.
2013-10-21 02:44:27 PM  
1 votes:

The_Sponge: PsiChick: You don't have to spank to get results.


It depends on the kid.

/Sure as hell needed it when I was a child.
//Was the poster child for ADD before ADD was even a term.


I've never had that experience. You're bigger than even the most unruly children, and every kid loves cookies and ice cream. 'Clean your room and you get a treat' works wonders, and you can phase it out as long as you replace the treat with a verbal reward (i.e. "great job!"). They pick up on what you want pretty quick if you're patient.
2013-10-21 02:43:12 PM  
1 votes:

udhq: In the end, I lead a happy, healthy, totally nonviolent and successful life.

All spanking did to me was give me a seething hatred against idiots who need to use violence and fear to control their children, and a resolve to make sure that decision hurts my parents more than it ever did me.

Every couple of years when they try to reestablish contact with me and my family, I send them the same form letter that as a consequence of their actions, they will go to their graves without ever having met their grandchildren.

I urge all children of spankers to do the same.



Oh boo hoo.

Just because you had a shiatty childhood, don't expect me to disown my parents because I was spanked as a kid.
2013-10-21 02:41:50 PM  
1 votes:
In the end, I lead a happy, healthy, totally nonviolent and successful life.

All spanking did to me was give me a seething hatred against idiots who need to use violence and fear to control their children, and a resolve to make sure that decision hurts my parents more than it ever did me.

Every couple of years when they try to reestablish contact with me and my family, I send them the same form letter that as a consequence of their actions, they will go to their graves without ever having met their grandchildren.

I urge all children of spankers to do the same.
2013-10-21 02:39:48 PM  
1 votes:

FUNWITHSHARPS: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Seriously, all you "anti-spanking" people must not have kids. Let the childless dictate parenting, no wonder this current generation of kids are fat, bullied, Nintendo-playing chumps.

I speak from experience on this, as my step-son Kody used to be one of 'em. Little shiat had all the latest games and would still smart mouth his mom and I. That came to a stop after I showed him the belt a few times and cut the wire on his game. Now all he's says is "yes sir" or "no sir" and he spends about half the day out in the woods hunting and skinning squirrels.

The only thing we had to discipline him for recently was taking his buck knife to school, but it was an honest mistake on his part and he owned up to it.

Bottom line is my daddy spanked me and I turned out fine, and now I spank my son and it's done a world of good for that boy.

--------

All spanking did for me is teach me to fight back and develop a high tolerance for pain and a complete hatred for authority. I guess I can thank it for making me learn not to take shiat from anyone and learning how to fight. Hit me? I hit back--come at me bro. Authority must never be followed blindly--sometimes it DOES need to be questioned. I guess the difference is that I was being spanked for no reason. I was a very square kid with controlling parents who didn't get into trouble. What they were doing to me was wrong.

/Female
//Could completely take out my 6'3'' 350+lb father who had military training.


I'm not sure that spanking was the problem.  Wouldn't you have developed authority issues had your parents punished you using other methods for no reason?  Randomly scolded you verbally, took your stuff, locked you in rooms/forced time-outs, no dinner, etc, etc?

I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this - but I think this is why so spanking discussions always get so heated.  Advocates like me are thinking of their parents....I was very lucky, both my parents worked really hard at being good parents.  They weren't lazy, they didn't default to beating their kids for no reason, in my entire life I was physically punished less than 10 times.  It was never out of frustration or anger, it was a proportional response to my actions.

Anti-spankers are thinking of people who are physically abusive, beat their children for no reason, utilize no other forms of discipline, and generally suck.
2013-10-21 02:36:33 PM  
1 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: PsiChick: Better question: Why do you  want to hit your kids?

Let's apply this logic to other forms of discipline...

Why do you want to take away your kid's beloved possessions?
Why do you want to isolate your child from his or her family and friends?
Why do you want to bribe your children?

The answer to those questions, and the hitting question, is the same for any non-abusive parent.  To discourage bad behavior/encourage good behavior in the hopes that your child will grow into the kind of adult you'd want them to be.


...Except that adult society reflects bribery, confiscation of property, and loss of liberty, where it does not reflect hitting as punishment.

Sin_City_Superhero: PsiChick: Why do you want to hit your kids?

I don't have any kids, so I can't answer that particular question. However, if you want to know why I want to hit your kids, it's because I've met them.


I know you're being sarcastic, but my little sister (I had to be her primary caretaker for about a year) actually is a very helpful and considerate kid, given that all eight-year-olds are prone to things like thinking Justin Beiber is amazing. You don't have to spank to get results.
2013-10-21 02:31:17 PM  
1 votes:

ChipNASA: Don't forget what Maddox Says....


I think i know why Maddox is so angry now.
2013-10-21 02:30:43 PM  
1 votes:

PsiChick: Why do you want to hit your kids?


I don't have any kids, so I can't answer that particular question. However, if you want to know why I want to hit your kids, it's because I've met them.
2013-10-21 02:28:14 PM  
1 votes:

js34603: let's start spanking adults


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2013-10-21 02:27:22 PM  
1 votes:

mafiageek1980: The_Sponge: PsiChick: Better question: Why do you  want to hit your kids?

Spanking is not hitting.

I HOPE you are joking with that statement.

Spanking=hitting your kid as a form of discipline.



Nope.

And if spanking equals "hitting", then I'm guilty of hitting various women during sexy time.
2013-10-21 02:19:06 PM  
1 votes:
Better question: Why do you  want to hit your kids?
2013-10-21 02:14:38 PM  
1 votes:
I got spanked as a kid, and I turned out just fine.

Except for the time my dad tried to spank me when I was finally old enough/big enough to defend myself, and I had to stab him with a pair of scissors.

"You want to call the cops? Fine. I'll go to juvy, then foster care, and your career as school teacher will be over. Your call."

I pretty much ruled the roost after that.

Why no, I don't keep in contact with my parents, why do you ask?
2013-10-21 02:03:10 PM  
1 votes:
What I don't get is why stop with kids? If spanking is such effective discipline let's start spanking adults. That'll learn 'em.

Missed your work deadline? Time for a spanking.

Speeding? Get my belt.

DUI? You best believe that's a paddling.

Once you spank them a couple times, they'll never commit another crime or miss a deadline.
2013-10-21 01:59:53 PM  
1 votes:
I also question how only having to be spanked once or twice proves anything. I mean, on a day to day basis your caretakers were using OTHER METHODS to get you to cooperate. Maybe they motivated you with rewards. Maybe they punished you with threats. But instead of concluding that being motivated with rewards is most important you conclude that spanking is most important.
2013-10-21 01:53:46 PM  
1 votes:

Corn_Fed: groppet: I can think of only a few times I was spanked and I did deserve it. It was only used as a last measure after everything else had failed. And I was a little ahole that was always pushing the limits.

So...you were an ahole who was "always" pushing limits.  Therefore, since you were "always" pushing limits, the spankings really didn't do anything to change your bad behavior pattern. You continued to push limits, even after being spanked. Thus, an ineffective punishment.


Well I only had to be spanked three times and the thought of that stuck with me as a grew up to become a mostly non ahole. Yeah I still ddi things to get into trouble and was punished when I was caught but like a poster said spanks were like nukes, used only as a last option. Like when I was warned not to play with fireworks over and over and even grounded and yet I still did. After a spanking not so much.
2013-10-21 01:52:09 PM  
1 votes:
Resorting to punishment is rejection of discipline. Learn the difference and stop harmimg people.
2013-10-21 01:51:51 PM  
1 votes:
Also as for this study, why don't these people do their own research instead of just taking someone elses 13 year old data and then make new assumptions.  It took 4 PhDs to extract that data and put it into a chart format?
2013-10-21 01:51:47 PM  
1 votes:
All of the information in the article is contained within the abstract. The study is not about the link between spanking as a form of discipline and aggressive behavior; an instrument on aggression is included to compare with data from metaanalyses referenced in the study, but the study was concerned with influences on cognitive development, maternal versus paternal spanking being a factor, and longitudinal influences of previously observed effects. In the opening statements of the study, the researchers note the link has been established, and therefore note what this study is meant to add to the body of research. No one would bother to publish this study if the purpose was to find a link between spanking and future aggression because this would add nothing to the body of research.
2013-10-21 01:50:44 PM  
1 votes:
mafiageek1980:

That being said, the article is stupid. Spanking kids does not lead them to be violent adults. That notion is just plain stupid.

/won't ever spank my future kids
//Getting spanked did nothing for me as a kid but make me FEAR my parents
///nor did washing my mouth out with soap. I still have a filthy farking mouth as an adult ;)
////SLASHIES IN CAPS


I'm not so sure about that. There has been significant research which shows that for a certain percentage of kids (about 30%), spanking really does lead to violent, anti-social behavior as adults. Maybe your kid will be in the lucky 70% group. But I wouldn't be willing to take that chance.
2013-10-21 01:49:54 PM  
1 votes:

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2013-10-21 01:49:08 PM  
1 votes:

brimed03: mediablitz: I've said it many times: If you have to spank a 3-5 year old, you are the loser. You have to actually put in WORK to raise good kids. Lazy parents spank because they are lazy.

Oversimplification.


Simplified, maybe, but I'm not sure we need The Mediablitz 300 Page Text Book Guide to Correcting Children's Behavior.  But I hope the first chapter says something to the effect of how parents mistake the idea of correcting a child's behavior versus simply physically harming their child because they take misbehavior personally.  With the former, yes, you're misguided and lazy for striking a 3-5 year old, as there are better ways to get a child's attention and teach them how to properly behave and react.  With the latter, you're just a gutless f*ck.

/and , yes, that last part may also be oversimplified, as I'm sure some people have kids who do indeed get the better of their patience and create a reaction they both regret.
2013-10-21 01:47:54 PM  
1 votes:

TNel: thurstonxhowell: TNel: "Researchers found that maternal spanking at age 5 was significantly associated with greater aggression and rule-breaking as well as lower scores on vocabulary tests at age 9.
Fathers' spanking at age 5 was associated with lower vocabulary scores at age 9, according to the research."

This is not the same as spanking makes kids aggressive.


Right, so father's can spank away as long as they don't mind their kids being monosyllabic. Mothers better cut it out though, those little dummies will be right bastards if she does the same.
2013-10-21 01:47:10 PM  
1 votes:
spanking shouldn't be about punishment.  spanking should be about getting a kid's attention when nothing else will work. The punishment comes after when they realize what they've done.
2013-10-21 01:47:03 PM  
1 votes:
b-b-but that one Farker always says that ADHD and every other behavior issue you could name is nothing more than kids not getting spanked enough...
2013-10-21 01:45:17 PM  
1 votes:

groppet: I can think of only a few times I was spanked and I did deserve it. It was only used as a last measure after everything else had failed. And I was a little ahole that was always pushing the limits.


So...you were an ahole who was "always" pushing limits.  Therefore, since you were "always" pushing limits, the spankings really didn't do anything to change your bad behavior pattern. You continued to push limits, even after being spanked. Thus, an ineffective punishment.
2013-10-21 01:44:00 PM  
1 votes:

Best Princess Celestia: And if you dont discipline them, you get the young generations of today.


How terrible.

Record low crime rate, pregnancy, drug overdose deaths, etc.

How truly terrible today's youth are compared to those of generations past.
2013-10-21 01:40:31 PM  
1 votes:

ikanreed: Discipline is having a set bedtime.


Discipline is between two consenting adults.  Spanking is only one part of it.
2013-10-21 01:40:27 PM  
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I've found spanking to be a fantastic deterrent... Just knowing that it is an option, albeit the final option, is enough for my kids to behave...

/kinda like nukes.
2013-10-21 01:37:17 PM  
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brimed03: mediablitz: I've said it many times: If you have to spank a 3-5 year old, you are the loser. You have to actually put in WORK to raise good kids. Lazy parents spank because they are lazy.

Oversimplification.


He is somewhat right. The problem is that spanking quickly becomes the one size cuts all thing to any problems. It gets too easy to just spank. Spanking should be held when nothing else works and as a threat . I feared a spankingbas a kid even though I only got ot like three times.
 
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