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(Newcastle Herald (Australia))   "The ocean is broken"   ( theherald.com.au) divider line
    More: Sad, oceans, seabirds, living things, sardines, New Guinea, bycatches  
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2013-10-21 10:01:56 AM  
"We've done four already but now we're steady and then they went one two three..."

*SMASH*

"Shi*t!"
 
2013-10-21 10:18:24 AM  
Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!.......Fix it!

s21.postimg.org
 
2013-10-21 10:25:37 AM  
I wasn't anywhere near it.
 
2013-10-21 10:54:21 AM  
But we were told for years Japan was the top engineering country, and was going to take over the world because of it.

huh.
 
2013-10-21 11:08:39 AM  
We treat the ocean as a sewer, a garbage dump,  and a bread basket.

/Not sure why
//Maybe it's because of Olive Garden we're used to bread baskets being full of shiat and garbage?
 
2013-10-21 11:08:59 AM  
www.hrwiki.org

Wanted for questioning.

/modestly hot
 
2013-10-21 11:10:39 AM  
transform.fairfaxregional.com.au

i am scary submarine man! i have a submarine for the bottom 2/3 of my body! the ocean is broken! give me some candy!
 
2013-10-21 11:10:54 AM  
I broke the ocean.
 
2013-10-21 11:15:17 AM  
Chill, everybody. I got this.
 
2013-10-21 11:16:14 AM  
He killed all the Husnock.

Time to, you know, catch fewer fish maybe?
 
2013-10-21 11:16:21 AM  

gnosis301: Chill, everybody. I got this.


Good - I'm sorry I broke it in the first place.  I was just looking at it, then.... whoops - broke.
 
2013-10-21 11:16:38 AM  
Scary tag becalmed at sea?
 
2013-10-21 11:17:35 AM  
Kind of a ripoff of Silent Spring, but creepy nonetheless.
 
2013-10-21 11:21:44 AM  
We broke it, now we're going to buy it.
 
2013-10-21 11:22:31 AM  
CSB - I was surfing in some pre tropical storm swells and a TV live truck showed up to hype up the impending doom.  Some lady said to the truck guy "oh my God, why are you here?"  The guy looked at her funny and said "they're draining the ocean" and rolled his eyes.  ECSB.
 
2013-10-21 11:34:17 AM  

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Who cares science nerds!


What has the "Ocean" ever done for us?!?!?


"Oooooo, I don't hear any birds.... the end is near"


Well I don't need the ocean. I have BEER!

 
2013-10-21 11:37:30 AM  
Put some tussin on it.
 
2013-10-21 11:39:25 AM  
It's nice to see that John McEnroe is keeping busy.
 
2013-10-21 11:40:18 AM  
The plural of anecdote is not data.

/this is not a scientist
//this is a guy on a yacht
 
2013-10-21 11:40:39 AM  
I am surprised that more attention isn't being paid to over fishing and the other problems plaguing the ocean.  The asian nations in particular seem very dependent on fishing.
 
2013-10-21 11:43:13 AM  

nocturnal001: I am surprised that more attention isn't being paid to over fishing and the other problems plaguing the ocean.  The asian nations in particular seem very dependent on fishing.


One of the solutions is to farm fish, which is gaining more attention, but there is still that premium for "wild caught"

And what can we do?  International waters are still a free for all.
 
2013-10-21 11:44:06 AM  
Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.
 
2013-10-21 11:46:52 AM  
Nothing to worry about, folks. Jesus is coming soon and will Rapture all us saved Teabaggers away from the mess our corporate masters made that we enabled. It was all prophesied. Revelation Chapter Sixteen, folks. The Second Angel poured out his bowl upon the oceans, and they became as the blood of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died. The Third Angel poured out his bowl upon the rivers and streams, and ditto. The Fourth Angel poured out his bowl upon the sun, and power was given him to burn men with fiery heat. Men were scorched by the great heat. And so on, and so on.

So, you see, we Christocrats actually did believe what you libtards were saying about the environment and ozone depletion and global warming, etc. Why wouldn't we? Our own Bible prophecies it as End Times Prophecy! We just pretended not to believe it, and bitterly opposed all attempts to do anything about it, because the corporations that did all this were giving us such sweet, sweet money to get our guys elected so we could kick your silly atheistic evolution and other secularism out of schools and bring Christian prayer back in and save your kids' souls (did you really think it was about our kids? We have private schools and homeschooling for that!), and besides, the sooner those prophecies get fulfilled, the sooner Jesus comes back and Raptures us (and your kids that our Christocrat local governments and Texas textbooks helped save ― so thank us, you heathens!), so we shouldn't stand in the way of their fulfillment. We want those things to happen!
 
2013-10-21 11:46:53 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.


Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".
 
2013-10-21 11:50:21 AM  
When I can walk all the way from California to Japan on top of the garbage then I'll believe there's a problem.

*reads the paper*

Dammit. Mercury levels in fish are up again. I guess we'll have to skip Red Lobster tonight. Someone dooooooo something!
 
2013-10-21 11:53:57 AM  

Ishkur: The plural of anecdote is not data.

/this is not a scientist
//this is a guy on a yacht


↑ ↑ ↑  This.

I wonder whether melancholy yacht guy realises that many pelagic species are highly migratory.
 
2013-10-21 11:58:54 AM  

Thurston Howell: Ishkur: The plural of anecdote is not data.

/this is not a scientist
//this is a guy on a yacht

↑ ↑ ↑  This.

I wonder whether melancholy yacht guy realises that many pelagic species are highly migratory.


What?  A skipjack carrying a coconut?
 
2013-10-21 12:00:31 PM  

Ishkur: The plural of anecdote is not data.

/this is not a scientist
//this is a guy on a yacht


very true, however the point that we are overfishing the ocean while polluting it with garbage has been well documented and researched
 
2013-10-21 12:03:51 PM  

meat0918: nocturnal001: I am surprised that more attention isn't being paid to over fishing and the other problems plaguing the ocean.  The asian nations in particular seem very dependent on fishing.

One of the solutions is to farm fish, which is gaining more attention, but there is still that premium for "wild caught"

And what can we do?  International waters are still a free for all.


Farm raising has it's share of issues from what I'm seeing. The biggest one is that famed fish need to be fed meat, which is supplied most of the time by fishing in the wild.

The exception there is Tilapia, which is my go-to fish for many reasons. Being vegetarian they are much easier to feed and save the tasty anchovies and sardines for me.
 
jvl [BareFark]
2013-10-21 12:10:40 PM  

Ishkur: The plural of anecdote is not data.


THIS.

Oh, and while being unable to catch fish, he observed lots of fishing boats. Uh...
 
2013-10-21 12:11:01 PM  

Leader O'Cola: very true, however the point that we are overfishing the ocean while polluting it with garbage has been well documented and researched


Sure. No one's disputing that. But if you want to write an article about it, print the science. Talk about the studies. Interview the researchers.

Not some rich dork on a yacht.
 
2013-10-21 12:19:03 PM  
Sometimes I go out on my deck and I hear all kinds of critters. Other times not so much.

Are the woods dying too? Or is the sailor a panic-prone asshat?
 
2013-10-21 12:43:18 PM  

Ishkur: Leader O'Cola: very true, however the point that we are overfishing the ocean while polluting it with garbage has been well documented and researched

Sure. No one's disputing that. But if you want to write an article about it, print the science. Talk about the studies. Interview the researchers.

Not some rich dork on a yacht.


You know, when you print up a scientific paper, it usually causes people's eyes to glaze over instantly. When you bring out the science, people just kinda shrug. Even when this science tells us, and has been telling us for decades, that we are fishing out the oceans, polluting the shiat out of them, and generally farking things up.

When scientists say "keep your quota at X or lower, and quit shot like trawling entirely", they get ignored and the quotas are set at X plus 50% or 100%. Trawling, which we know well destroys bottom habitat, is still legal.

Now, when a rich dude on a yacht says "this shiat is broken" an describes how there aren't any birds or fish anymore, it is much easier for the layman to understand. And as much as you say they aren't data, when the mass of reports for the past hundred years or so describe fish and whales becoming less common and pictures of daily catch boards over decades show fewer and smaller fish, it means something pretty unambiguous. If it gets people to actually pay attention for a dude on a yacht to write a newspaper article, or even better, helps lead to needed reforms, then it's BETTER than scientific papers.

shiat's farked up. It's obviously farked up. It's been getting more farked up for decades, and we know it. We have never done what needs to be done. Quit sniping people for pointing out the obvious because they don't do it the "credible" way. People don't listen to the science either.
 
2013-10-21 12:47:08 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.

Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! You make me laugh, me a hipster!? I'm sorry your mommy did not abort you, have you considered suicide, it is probably the only option left to you.
 
2013-10-21 12:50:32 PM  

SpectroBoy: Sometimes I go out on my deck and I hear all kinds of critters. Other times not so much.

Are the woods dying too? Or is the sailor a panic-prone asshat?


Around here, most days it sounds like every farking songbird in a 50 mile radius is yelling "Can you hear me now?" on tiny cell phones at all their friends.  Whenever a hawk is circling overhead, it gets reeeeeeaaally quiet.
 
2013-10-21 12:57:46 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Richard C Stanford: Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.

Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! You make me laugh, me a hipster!? I'm sorry your mommy did not abort you, have you considered suicide, it is probably the only option left to you.


Have you?  By remaining alive, you are contributing the terrible "humanity" you so clearly despise so much.

You see... you're part of the problem.  Why don't you lead by example?
 
2013-10-21 12:58:12 PM  

adamatari: Now, when a rich dude on a yacht says "this shiat is broken" an describes how there aren't any birds or fish anymore, it is much easier for the layman to understand.


Fine, then do it Malcolm Gladwell style: Start out with the anecdote, and have it as a lead-in/preface to the data, and please both intellectuals and laymen alike.

Because just doing one or the other makes it either intellectually inaccessible or emotionally manipulative swill (with linkbait trolly headline).
 
2013-10-21 01:02:22 PM  
There were plenty of fish and birds back in the early '70s before the clean water act.

Clearly, the problem is that there' no longer enough pollution.
 
2013-10-21 01:10:51 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Richard C Stanford: Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.

Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! You make me laugh, me a hipster!? I'm sorry your mommy did not abort you, have you considered suicide, it is probably the only option left to you.


What in the world?
 
2013-10-21 01:12:56 PM  

MechaPyx: When I can walk all the way from California to Japan on top of the garbage then I'll believe there's a problem.

*reads the paper*

Dammit. Mercury levels in fish are up again. I guess we'll have to skip Red Lobster tonight. Someone dooooooo something!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

Sooooooon
 
2013-10-21 01:20:00 PM  

picturescrazy: Slaves2Darkness: Richard C Stanford: Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.

Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! You make me laugh, me a hipster!? I'm sorry your mommy did not abort you, have you considered suicide, it is probably the only option left to you.

What in the world?


I'm guessing it's Halloween month... yeah, lets go with that.
 
2013-10-21 01:20:08 PM  
img.gawkerassets.com

The pacific garbage patch
ascity.wpengine.com
 
2013-10-21 01:22:45 PM  

Thurston Howell: Ishkur: The plural of anecdote is not data.

/this is not a scientist
//this is a guy on a yacht

↑ ↑ ↑  This.

I wonder whether melancholy yacht guy realises that many pelagic species are highly migratory.


you should go study it out. We're losing fish at an unsustainable rate due to bottom trawling and over fishing
 
2013-10-21 01:35:05 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Richard C Stanford: Slaves2Darkness: Good, because when the ocean dies, humanity dies with it. That will be a glorious day, when all the apes are gasping for air, because they were too stupid to take care of their environment.

Misanthropic hipster. "Oh lookit me, I wish a horrible death on everyone, look how much I hate people".

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! You make me laugh, me a hipster!? I'm sorry your mommy did not abort you, have you considered suicide, it is probably the only option left to you.


Try not to cut yourself on those edges there.
 
2013-10-21 01:36:53 PM  
I don't see why everyone is so concerned. Issues like these are generally self correcting. We'll deplete the food supply and then a lot of people will die from famine. Human pressure on the ecosystem will be lessened giving nature time to recover. Trivial thing to be worrying about really. I mean look at North Korea. They seem to be doing just fine. How bad can it be?
 
2013-10-21 01:37:23 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: Thurston Howell: I wonder whether melancholy yacht guy realises that many pelagic species are highly migratory.

you should go study it out. We're losing fish at an unsustainable rate due to bottom trawling and over fishing


I agree.  However, one guy on a yacht reporting only surface observations is not, shall we say, a statistically significant data point.

Good luck getting coastal populations worldwide not to eat the "free" bounty sitting on their doorstep.  We'll invent cold fusion before you can get enough people to stop eating sushi.
 
rpl
2013-10-21 01:40:42 PM  
img.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-10-21 01:41:38 PM  

Beerguy: [img.gawkerassets.com image 850x478]

The pacific garbage patch
[ascity.wpengine.com image 850x848]


That guy in the canoe is not out in the middle of the pacific. There is actually no way to picture the "great pacific garbage patch" because we're talking concentrations of parts-per-million, and hyperbolically lots of web sites then show trash on a coastline stock footage, but people assume it's real.

The pacific garbage patch is important for ecological long-term effects it might cause, but showing fake photos of a guy in a canoe along a coastline during a storm/hurricane clean-up is hardly the way to go about depicting it. People might assume you're full of sh*t and everything you say is phony and agenda-driven when you do that.
 
2013-10-21 01:42:48 PM  

Thurston Howell: Good luck getting coastal populations worldwide not to eat the "free" bounty sitting on their doorstep. We'll invent cold fusion before you can get enough people to stop eating sushi.


One generation of flipper babies and they'll lose their appetite. Guaranteed.
 
2013-10-21 01:43:31 PM  

Iblis824: MechaPyx: When I can walk all the way from California to Japan on top of the garbage then I'll believe there's a problem.

*reads the paper*

Dammit. Mercury levels in fish are up again. I guess we'll have to skip Red Lobster tonight. Someone dooooooo something!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

Sooooooon


I didn't realize that we (humans) were finally trying to do something about it. I see the TED talk (which is just talk, obviously), and at least 2 expeditions in the last 3 years. That's far less than I'd like, but it's SOMETHING. This seems like such a simple problem to fix: not cheap or easy, but not excessively complicated either. I wish we'd just get on with it.
 
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