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2013-10-21 09:40:02 AM  
650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck
 
2013-10-21 09:54:07 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck


650 million what?

I already got my Obamacare, so Im just curious which part is clustery for me.  I find it chewy on the outside and crunchy on the inside.
 
2013-10-21 09:55:33 AM  
Gee, only 2 1/2 months before the program even begins!  We're so screwed! Shut down EVERYTHING!!!!
 
2013-10-21 09:55:42 AM  
Apparently they got their new techs from Facebook.
 
2013-10-21 09:57:50 AM  
Marcus Aurelius:
I already got my Obamacare, so Im just curious which part is clustery for me. I find it chewy on the outside and crunchy on the inside.

Well, you made it through the first stage of the approval process, anyway.

You won't actually have it until you send them the payment and get the actual policy.

Considering the comments from the insurance companies, you're got at least a one in ten chance of actually having the policy you think you do.
 
2013-10-21 09:59:22 AM  
Govt purchasing/contracting at its finest
 
2013-10-21 09:59:41 AM  

bwilson27: Gee, only 2 1/2 months before the program even begins!  We're so screwed! Shut down EVERYTHING!!!!


And guess which part is screwed up?  I'll give you a hint: the governors of each state were supposed to set up state level exchanges, and the Federal system was a backup for the few handful of states expected to go potato.

And then 34 states go potato.

Typical GOP governance.  Break the government, and then complain that the government's broken.  It's all they've been doing since 1980.
 
2013-10-21 10:00:19 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck


you sound concerned.
 
2013-10-21 10:00:34 AM  
Could someone please translate TFH into English? I think someone is outraged about something, but I can't really be sure.
 
2013-10-21 10:00:41 AM  
that is probably the dumbest metaphor I've seen on Fark.
 
2013-10-21 10:04:44 AM  
www.wired.com

Let's ROLL!!

 
2013-10-21 10:05:10 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: And guess which part is screwed up? I'll give you a hint: the governors of each state were supposed to set up state level exchanges, and the Federal system was a backup for the few handful of states expected to go potato.

And then 34 states go potato.


Regardless of going potato.  At least 1 out of the 6 different 'marketplace representatives' should be able to get the lock off of my account and resend the validation email.  2 of them at least knew what I was looking for them to accomplish and tried.  The other 4?  I should have not said no to the survey at the end.  They were completely unhelpful.

Oh, and the chat window is beyond useless.  A bot can spit out canned data better.

Wife and I lose my insurance come jan 1 because Wisconsin.  She has issues.  I need this to work.
 
2013-10-21 10:05:29 AM  

cirby: Marcus Aurelius:
I already got my Obamacare, so Im just curious which part is clustery for me. I find it chewy on the outside and crunchy on the inside.

Well, you made it through the first stage of the approval process, anyway.

You won't actually have it until you send them the payment and get the actual policy.

Considering the comments from the insurance companies, you're got at least a one in ten chance of actually having the policy you think you do.


I still have my own insurance with premiums that come to a small mortgage payment.  BUT, my pre-existing conditions are covered, my daughter is covered to 26, the benefit cap is removed,  and my insurer has to spend a minimum on care or give me a refund.

That's pretty sweet right there.  Now legalize me forming a group, and we'll nearly have single payer.  The only reason we don't have it is health insurers lobbying Congress and the majority of  Americans remaining woefully ignorant.
 
2013-10-21 10:05:57 AM  

cirby: Apparently they got their new techs from Facebook.


They should've gotten the techs that put together Diablo 3's server farms.

/or maybe they already had
 
2013-10-21 10:06:05 AM  

monoski: Govt purchasing/contracting at its finest


GOP governance at its finest.
 
2013-10-21 10:06:13 AM  
Can someone diagram this headline for me?
 
2013-10-21 10:07:09 AM  
www.thehumorcolumnist.com
 
2013-10-21 10:07:45 AM  

Petey4335: Marcus Aurelius: And guess which part is screwed up? I'll give you a hint: the governors of each state were supposed to set up state level exchanges, and the Federal system was a backup for the few handful of states expected to go potato.

And then 34 states go potato.

Regardless of going potato.  At least 1 out of the 6 different 'marketplace representatives' should be able to get the lock off of my account and resend the validation email.  2 of them at least knew what I was looking for them to accomplish and tried.  The other 4?  I should have not said no to the survey at the end.  They were completely unhelpful.

Oh, and the chat window is beyond useless.  A bot can spit out canned data better.

Wife and I lose my insurance come jan 1 because Wisconsin.  She has issues.  I need this to work.


Sorry to hear that.  Hope it works out.  If all else fails, you can always leave Wisconsin and go to a state with their shiat together.  You just probably donb't want to do that in January.
 
2013-10-21 10:08:11 AM  

BMulligan: Could someone please translate TFH into English? I think someone is outraged about something, but I can't really be sure.


Read  The Mythical Man-Month for further enlightment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

/not subby
//fully understands what he is implying.
 
2013-10-21 10:10:54 AM  

someonelse: Can someone diagram this headline for me?


It's the Law of Diminishing Returns

After a certain point, adding more input will not produce a proportional increase in productivity.
 
2013-10-21 10:12:20 AM  
Marcus Aurelius:
I still have my own insurance with premiums that come to a small mortgage payment. BUT, my pre-existing conditions are covered, my daughter is covered to 26, the benefit cap is removed, and my insurer has to spend a minimum on care or give me a refund.

You do know that the insurance companies are currently sending out cancellation letters to hundreds of thousands of people who have current policies, right? If your current policy isn't O-care compliant in any way, you're going to lose it.
 
2013-10-21 10:13:09 AM  
I'm not saying shut it down, but if they can't get this really working well enough with plenty of time for people to get onboard correctly, maybe they should delay the requirement for a few extra months and extend the sign up time.
 
2013-10-21 10:14:33 AM  
I wonder exactly who is choosing which people to bring in. Please, please, please be wary of possible GOP saboteurs.

Paranoid? Yes, where the Koch brother have an interest, yes. Just look at the amount of derp that's been thrown at this law since day one and tell me it couldn't happen.
 
2013-10-21 10:22:39 AM  
Everyone seems to think this is some sort of Load/Performance issue.  If that was the case anyone 1yr hosting IT consultant could mask that by spinning up a ton of front ends and beef up the DB and mask those issues.  These seem more like core code issues, perhaps some related to piss poor attention to core load requirements, but with a virtually unlimited budget, thats inexcusable.

How people can assume "Oh quit yer' biatchin', everything will be fine, you got 2 months to sign up!"  Its been over 2 weeks and if that was the case it would have been fixed.  See Washingons' Exchange.  Issues first day, solved second day.

What most likely is going to happen is they are going to do something like stubbing out all the API's that call the external systems, and bring in a couple front end php-java coders that do nothing but write a simple web form to a mysql db and send the results to a printer farm, where a bunch of monkeys will manually process and email this stuff around the country.
 
2013-10-21 10:32:58 AM  
Yesterday: Derpers are mad the site's a "clusterfark".

Today: Derpers are mad they're fixing it.

Tomorrow: Derpers are mad Sn0bamao still not lead away from the White House in chains.
 
2013-10-21 10:34:10 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck




Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.
 
2013-10-21 10:35:15 AM  
Just some questions here.  In honor of Senator Cruz' comment this past weekend on the morning talk shows, "I'd do anything to stop Obamacare", is it possible that the site was sabotaged?  How likely is a sabotage scenario?  How could one be detected?  How easily could a responsible person be determined.  How much rope would it take to properly hang this responsible person from a forty foot tree?  Darrel Issa will want to know.  Oh, nevermind.  He would order a proper monument built to honor the guilty party.
 
2013-10-21 10:37:13 AM  
You can't design and build a flawless client/server system concurrently in two years.  It's a government level failure to understand anything about how making websites works.

Cuyose: Everyone seems to think this is some sort of Load/Performance issue.  If that was the case anyone 1yr hosting IT consultant could mask that by spinning up a ton of front ends and beef up the DB and mask those issues.  These seem more like core code issues, perhaps some related to piss poor attention to core load requirements, but with a virtually unlimited budget, thats inexcusable.


From what I've read, the contracts were very broad to avoid necessitating re-bids; so they weren't ever really able to finalize requirements.  The code is probably horrifying garbage as would be the case any time you have requirements that change by the hour up until launch day.  Otherwise known as "shiat that happens when you have an almost undeliverable timeline with only a vague concept of what you need."
 
2013-10-21 10:39:11 AM  

pissnmoan: Just some questions here.  In honor of Senator Cruz' comment this past weekend on the morning talk shows, "I'd do anything to stop Obamacare", is it possible that the site was sabotaged?  How likely is a sabotage scenario?  How could one be detected?  How easily could a responsible person be determined.  How much rope would it take to properly hang this responsible person from a forty foot tree?  Darrel Issa will want to know.  Oh, nevermind.  He would order a proper monument built to honor the guilty party.


Probably not.  There's a very clear and straightforward and not at all surprising way the sites are farked up.
 
2013-10-21 10:39:27 AM  
ya'll could just go to the website to see if it's working instead of complaining about it on the internutz
 
2013-10-21 10:45:36 AM  

Petey4335: Wife and I lose my insurance come jan 1 because Wisconsin. She has issues. I need this to work.


www.examiner.com

If only there were some other way to get coverage while the website issues are being worked on...
 
2013-10-21 10:54:48 AM  

Cyclometh: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck

Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.


scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net

Sure, derision.
 
2013-10-21 11:00:21 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: bwilson27: Gee, only 2 1/2 months before the program even begins!  We're so screwed! Shut down EVERYTHING!!!!

And guess which part is screwed up?  I'll give you a hint: the governors of each state were supposed to set up state level exchanges, and the Federal system was a backup for the few handful of states expected to go potato.

And then 34 states go potato.

Typical GOP governance.  Break the government, and then complain that the government's broken.  It's all they've been doing since 1980.


Too bad one of the fixes isn't allowing potato state residents to piggy back onto better functioning states exchanges.
It is a dream, but one I toy with -

/lives in a potato state
//hasn't tried to even LOOK at site yet
///because three
 
2013-10-21 11:15:50 AM  

Petey4335: Marcus Aurelius: And guess which part is screwed up? I'll give you a hint: the governors of each state were supposed to set up state level exchanges, and the Federal system was a backup for the few handful of states expected to go potato.

And then 34 states go potato.

Regardless of going potato.  At least 1 out of the 6 different 'marketplace representatives' should be able to get the lock off of my account and resend the validation email.  2 of them at least knew what I was looking for them to accomplish and tried.  The other 4?  I should have not said no to the survey at the end.  They were completely unhelpful.

Oh, and the chat window is beyond useless.  A bot can spit out canned data better.

Wife and I lose my insurance come jan 1 because Wisconsin.  She has issues.  I need this to work.


Your wife is Zooey Deschanel? You lucky bastard.
www.fedge.net
/hot
 
2013-10-21 11:20:23 AM  

cirby: Marcus Aurelius:
I still have my own insurance with premiums that come to a small mortgage payment. BUT, my pre-existing conditions are covered, my daughter is covered to 26, the benefit cap is removed, and my insurer has to spend a minimum on care or give me a refund.

You do know that the insurance companies are currently sending out cancellation letters to hundreds of thousands of people who have current policies, right? If your current policy isn't O-care compliant in any way, you're going to lose it.


I cannot WAIT to shop for a new health insurance policy.  I am absolutely looking forward to it.  My present policy I could keep, but for what?
 
2013-10-21 11:25:05 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cyclometh: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck

Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.

[scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net image 576x525]

Sure, derision.


Rather than a pretty picture of Obama, perhaps you could provide a source for the claim that this will add to the deficit?

Because mine say Obamacare takes in $1 Trillion in new revenues, and adds $890 Billion in new spending, for a net reduction of the deficit of $110 Billion.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43471
 
2013-10-21 11:32:19 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: monoski: Govt purchasing/contracting at its finest

GOP governance at its finest.


Nah, both parties own this one. The motto is spend lots of money but make sure to pass it on through companies who lobby generously.
 
2013-10-21 11:39:08 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cyclometh: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck

Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.

[scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net image 576x525]

Sure, derision.


You lie.  http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176
 
2013-10-21 11:40:33 AM  

Zasteva: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cyclometh: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck

Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.

[scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net image 576x525]

Sure, derision.

Rather than a pretty picture of Obama, perhaps you could provide a source for the claim that this will add to the deficit?

Because mine say Obamacare takes in $1 Trillion in new revenues, and adds $890 Billion in new spending, for a net reduction of the deficit of $110 Billion.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43471


What Is the Impact of Repealing the ACA on the Federal Budget?
Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013-2022 period. Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.
 
2013-10-21 11:49:54 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013


Here's where you go look up HR 6079.
 
2013-10-21 11:51:16 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.


Also, you understand that HR 6079 attempted to  repeal the ACA, and that this quote says that the deficit would go up if it were repealed, right?

In other words, it says exactly the opposite of what you're arguing.
 
2013-10-21 11:52:39 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Zasteva: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cyclometh: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 650 Million and counting. Not too sure we can afford much more transparency than that.  It's now beyond sad, it's funny.

/Cluster F*ck

Oh noes, the money.

We spent almost two billion per week in Afghanistan. The Iraq war cost as much as six trillion. Didn't hear any GOP protests of that spending.

We have spent far more to accomplish far less in recent memory.

Yeah, it shouldn't have so many problems, but the price tag is not the biggest issue; we can afford it. Any whining by the right about how much the healthcare portal cost should be met with derision.

[scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net image 576x525]

Sure, derision.

Rather than a pretty picture of Obama, perhaps you could provide a source for the claim that this will add to the deficit?

Because mine say Obamacare takes in $1 Trillion in new revenues, and adds $890 Billion in new spending, for a net reduction of the deficit of $110 Billion.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43471

What Is the Impact of Repealing the ACA on the Federal Budget?
Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013-2022 period. Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.


You uncultured mustelid, that was the repeal bill.
 
2013-10-21 11:54:40 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-10-21 12:28:48 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: What Is the Impact of Repealing the ACA on the Federal Budget?
Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013-2022 period. Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.


This HR 6079 was the REPEAL of ACA, and would raise the deficit by $109 billion. That's because having ACA in place saves $109 billion.
 
2013-10-21 12:30:18 PM  

Zasteva: Lt. Cheese Weasel: What Is the Impact of Repealing the ACA on the Federal Budget?
Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013-2022 period. Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.

This HR 6079 was the REPEAL of ACA, and would raise the deficit by $109 billion. That's because having ACA in place saves $109 billion.


But I was wrong on one thing. The ACA only reduces the deficit by $109 billion, not $110 billion. My bad.
 
2013-10-21 12:33:41 PM  

Summercat: You uncultured mustelid, that was the repeal bill.


Hey now......ah, shiat.
 
2013-10-21 12:37:11 PM  
Subby, you do know that hiring more people to work on a technical problem is a valid solution, right?  And that it can result in solving the problem in a shorter time frame?
 
2013-10-21 12:55:37 PM  
Marcus Aurelius: Petey4335: Wife and I lose my insurance come jan 1 because Wisconsin.  She has issues.  I need this to work.

Sorry to hear that.  Hope it works out.  If all else fails, you can always leave Wisconsin and go to a state with their shiat together.  You just probably donb't want to do that in January.


I can't think of a better time than January to get out of Wisconsin.

/I keed, I keed
 
2013-10-21 12:57:51 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Summercat: You uncultured mustelid, that was the repeal bill.

Hey now......ah, shiat.


I'm sorry, but you've lost your whey.
 
2013-10-21 01:24:39 PM  

monoski: Govt purchasing/contracting at its finest


And a massive inability to read "The Mythical Man-Month"
 
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