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(ESPN)   Five questions about the Cards/Sox World Series: Whatcha make about Wacha? Just how good is the Card's bullpen? Who will play third for the Sox? What do we do about Ortiz? And why does Uehara look like he's about to stroke out with every pitch?   (espn.go.com) divider line 90
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2013-10-21 09:52:43 AM  
Xander Bogaerts plays 3rd. Middlebrooks gets very little to no playing time during the series.  It's just like 2007 with Ellsbury taking over for Crisp when he wasn't hitting.
 
2013-10-21 09:56:53 AM  
Can't wait until this starts. It's gonna be good.
 
2013-10-21 10:38:45 AM  
Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.
 
2013-10-21 11:27:01 AM  
Leyland is gone.
 
2013-10-21 11:27:47 AM  
I'm torn.  I want to cheer for Uehara (former Oriole), but I can't stand most of the other people on the Sox.  I'm still mad that they traded Uehara to the Rangers instead of Gregg.
 
2013-10-21 11:30:14 AM  
Is it just me or is anyone else fascinated by the look of "oh god, don'tfarkup don'tfarkup" look that Uehara gets right before windup.

/I think he's easily my favorite Sox player to watch
 
2013-10-21 11:35:09 AM  

fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.


He was first signed by the Tigers 50 years ago.  Insane.
 
2013-10-21 11:39:15 AM  

jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.


STL has no lefty starters.  Will Napoli just be PH then?
 
2013-10-21 11:41:29 AM  

SoMoMan: jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.

STL has no lefty starters.  Will Napoli just be PH then?


No, Napoli will start every game at 1B.  Ortiz with be a PH in games 3-5.  There's no way Boston lets Ortiz lumber around first for an entire game.
 
2013-10-21 11:45:00 AM  
The DH is farking stupid.
 
2013-10-21 11:45:05 AM  
Repeat of 2004.... just without as much sweepage.

Sox in 6.
 
2013-10-21 11:47:50 AM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: SoMoMan: jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.

STL has no lefty starters.  Will Napoli just be PH then?

No, Napoli will start every game at 1B.  Ortiz with be a PH in games 3-5.  There's no way Boston lets Ortiz lumber around first for an entire game.


Not to mention, aside from a grand slam, Ortiz is hitting about .100 so far.  Napoli's on fire.  Ortiz will be there to PH if they are in need of a late-inning home run.  Other than that, he rides the bench games 3-5.
 
2013-10-21 11:48:19 AM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: SoMoMan: jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.

STL has no lefty starters.  Will Napoli just be PH then?

No, Napoli will start every game at 1B.  Ortiz with be a PH in games 3-5.  There's no way Boston lets Ortiz lumber around first for an entire game.


Ortiz is hitting better than ever and he started at first base in all of road games in previous World Series. Games 3 and 4 in 2004 and 2007.
 
2013-10-21 11:55:20 AM  
If any of the other AL teams in the playoffs or the Pirates had made the WS, I probably would have watched. Guess this is in the 18.75% of outcomes where I wouldn't care about either team in the WS.
 
2013-10-21 11:57:35 AM  
Sox will even the all-time Series series with the Cards.
 
2013-10-21 11:58:45 AM  

paswa17: If any of the other AL teams in the playoffs or the Pirates had made the WS, I probably would have watched.


Same here.

As the Rays fan, I can't root for Boston and I couldn't care less about St. Louis.
 
2013-10-21 12:01:02 PM  

paswa17: If any of the other AL teams in the playoffs or the Pirates had made the WS, I probably would have watched. Guess this is in the 18.75% of outcomes where I wouldn't care about either team in the WS.


What do you dislike about the Sox players?
 
2013-10-21 12:01:35 PM  

fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.


This is bad news for Don Kelly. He should be putting together YouTube highlights to send to all the other teams.
 
2013-10-21 12:01:54 PM  

lilbjorn: Sox will even the all-time Series series with the Cards.


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2013-10-21 12:02:49 PM  

mjohnson71: The DH Different rules in different leagues is farking stupid.

 
2013-10-21 12:08:05 PM  

mjohnson71: The DH is farking stupid blasphemy.

 
2013-10-21 12:09:46 PM  

the8re: Repeat of 2004.... just without as much sweepage.

Sox in 6.


I just want them to win at home. That's all I want is the final game to be a win at Fenway. We missed out both in 04 and 07 because of homefield advantage.

Sox in 5

/though I don't doubt a sweep could be possible.
//this team did beat a Tiger's bullpen that was top notch
///even Verlander
 
2013-10-21 12:09:56 PM  

mjohnson71: The DH is farking stupid.


The DH is great for the game: Aging stars who draw revenue get to keep playing a few more years, the automatic out that is the pitcher is replaced by a dynamic and exciting hitter, your critical pitcher is less subject to season ending injury making for a more consistently fielded team with more great players and fewer replacements.

It's the other league rules that make no sense, the game is a business too, and its there to entertain fans, DH all the way.
 
2013-10-21 12:22:00 PM  
As a Tiger's fan..... Hat's off to the Sox

That was a great playoff series..... I'll be "rootin" for you
 
2013-10-21 12:27:07 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: SoMoMan: jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.

STL has no lefty starters.  Will Napoli just be PH then?

No, Napoli will start every game at 1B.  Ortiz with be a PH in games 3-5.  There's no way Boston lets Ortiz lumber around first for an entire game.


Ortiz is actually a decent fielder, I'm sure he'll start a game or two in St. Louis. Besides, it's not like Napoli is a Gold Glover or even a Danny Glover over there. I'm interested to see if/when Ross gets a start at catcher and how they handle the playing time with Nava and Gomes.

/Who is going to play in the World Series?
//Good problems to have
 
2013-10-21 12:35:11 PM  

ChrisDe: fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.

This is bad news for Don Kelly. He should be putting together YouTube highlights to send to all the other teams.


Nice. I lol'd.
 
2013-10-21 12:53:32 PM  
And other questions that 99% of America doesn't give a crap about.

Get a real sport.
 
2013-10-21 12:56:35 PM  

justtray: And other questions that 99% of America doesn't give a crap about.

Get a real sport.


...what?
 
2013-10-21 01:12:16 PM  

justtray: And other questions that 99% of America doesn't give a crap about.

Get a real sport.


Like what? Armoured wankball? Fisticuffs? Fisticuffs with kicks? Fisticuffs on ice? Bass Fishing?
 
2013-10-21 01:13:31 PM  

deadsanta: Like what? Armoured wankball? Fisticuffs? Fisticuffs with kicks? Fisticuffs on ice? Bass Fishing Fishticuffs?

 
2013-10-21 01:27:36 PM  
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2013-10-21 01:28:28 PM  

mjohnson71: The DH is farking stupid.


killdawabbitt: mjohnson71: The DH is farking stupid blasphemy.


I'm sorry you enjoy automatic outs in the lineup and having to pull a pitcher having a great game because of "strategy".

wooden_badger: mjohnson71: The DH Different rules in different leagues is farking stupid.


Different rules in the two leagues is fine. Keeps things interesting and maintains a sense of tradition.
 
2013-10-21 01:29:53 PM  

The Evil Home Brewer: As a Tiger's fan..... Hat's off to the Sox

That was a great playoff series..... I'll be "rootin" for you


In 25ish years of watching the Sox I cannot recall a series that was that even and that much of a grind. I gained much respect for the Tigers...
 
2013-10-21 01:31:36 PM  
Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.
 
2013-10-21 01:33:15 PM  
When will this crap be over? is strangely missing from the list.
 
2013-10-21 01:38:24 PM  

FarkedOver: Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.


My partial solution:
Two games of the World Series are called by the local crew of each team.  I also think the All-Star game should bring in some All-Star commentators.

I don't know if Fox will be able to find anybody to actually replace McCarver unless they go outside baseball and bring in John Madden.  Almost any ex-player would do a better job than McCarver and make Joe Buck look worse.
 
2013-10-21 01:43:31 PM  

FarkedOver: Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.


Who anyone dislikes Buck more than McCarver is beyond me.
 
2013-10-21 01:44:05 PM  
I want the Sox to win. But, just seeing them in the World Series when nothing was expected of them this year (and the preseason odds of them being in the WS was 28-1) and after finishing dead last in the 2012 Bobby Valentin train wreck season I'm just kind of happy at the result of making it there.

Hopefully, next year Detroit will have a bullpen that doesn't give up game winning grand slams.
 
2013-10-21 01:46:41 PM  

Gunny Highway: FarkedOver: Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.

Who anyone dislikes Buck more than McCarver is beyond me.


I kinda don't get that either.. maybe its nostalgia from before McCarver went senile.

I hate Joe Buck like anyone, but he doesn't outright -offend- me; he's inoffensively bad. I don't like hearing him, but I can't ever remember screaming "Shut up, Joe Buck!" at the TV. McCarver on the other hand, has said things so banal on many occasions that I actually get angry.
 
2013-10-21 01:47:56 PM  

Gunny Highway: FarkedOver: Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.

Who anyone dislikes Buck more than McCarver is beyond me.


May they both meet the same fiery fate as Stevie Ray Vaughn.
 
2013-10-21 01:48:30 PM  

fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.


Am I the only one surprised by the fact he's only 68.  He's one of those guys that has seemed old the entire time I've been aware of him.
 
2013-10-21 01:49:35 PM  

The Bestest: Gunny Highway: FarkedOver: Can Joe Buck just die before the start of the World Series? That would be fantastic.

Who anyone dislikes Buck more than McCarver is beyond me.

I kinda don't get that either.. maybe its nostalgia from before McCarver went senile.

I hate Joe Buck like anyone, but he doesn't outright -offend- me; he's inoffensively bad. I don't like hearing him, but I can't ever remember screaming "Shut up, Joe Buck!" at the TV. McCarver on the other hand, has said things so banal on many occasions that I actually get angry.


Exactly.  Who will be teaming with Buck next season?
 
2013-10-21 01:49:51 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.

Am I the only one surprised by the fact he's only 68.  He's one of those guys that has seemed old the entire time I've been aware of him.


He also just -looks- ancient. Heck, he's actually 5 years younger than Joe Torre.
 
2013-10-21 01:52:08 PM  

NeoCortex42: Almost any ex-player would do a better job than McCarver and make Joe Buck look worse.


Hi, I'm Joe Buck and joining me is my new partner...Joe Morgan.

I'll farking hang myself if I'm teased with McCarver leaving only to be replaced by that turd.
 
2013-10-21 01:56:06 PM  

tommyl66: Ortiz is actually a decent fielder


Oh, boy.

No.  No, he is not.  Not even people who are presently eating chowder out of their pink hat really think this.

jaylectricity: Ortiz is hitting better than ever and he started at first base in all of road games in previous World Series. Games 3 and 4 in 2004 and 2007.


That was questionable in 2007, and he's now six years older and fatter.  Defense is a young man's game.

That said, Ortiz got 16 interleague starts and only 1 PH appearance in Boston's 20 interleague games.  That suggests they started him more than half the time on the road, in games where resting him would have been understandable, especially against lefty starters.  He's a terrible defender, but 1B is the least harmful position for terrible defenders.

jaylectricity: Ortiz starts all games at Fenway as DH. In St. Louis Napoli will start at first against left-handed pitchers.


Wainwright, Wacha, Kelly, Lynn: All right-handed.  The only two lefties on the St. Louis roster are Siegrist and Choate, and they're short relief.  PAs vs. lefties will be very scarce.  (Choate is basically a LOOGY: 64 appearances and 35 IP during the regular season.)

I'd bet Ortiz starts every game of the WS.
 
2013-10-21 01:58:09 PM  

The Bestest: Shrugging Atlas: fatalvenom: Leyland is gone.

Am I the only one surprised by the fact he's only 68.  He's one of those guys that has seemed old the entire time I've been aware of him.

He also just -looks- ancient. Heck, he's actually 5 years younger than Joe Torre.


He was a scout back in the early 2000s for the Cardinals and he looked at least 10-15 years older than LaRussa back then...and LaRussa's a year older than him.  That's a lot of hard livin' and filterless smokes.
 
2013-10-21 02:02:27 PM  

somedude210: Sox in 5

/though I don't doubt a sweep could be possible.


I have to ask, what have you seen in the Cardinals that makes you think the Sox could sweep them in the Series?

I would say the two teams are very evenly matched, but might give an edge tot he Sox because of homefield advantage.  Either way, I don't see the Series being less than 6 games.
 
2013-10-21 02:02:50 PM  

The Bestest: I kinda don't get that either.. maybe its nostalgia from before McCarver went senile.


I think it's this.  McCarver was an insightful announcer in the 1980s when:
1) He paid attention to the game.
2) He paid serious attention to the pitcher-catcher dynamic at a time when most announcers never mentioned it.  Framing a pitch, pick-off move details, positioning, calls, etc.  Granted, he made it sound like the catcher completely controlled the outcome of every play, but at least you learned something about how the position was played.

Much like Phil Rizzuto, he just stayed on the job well past his sell-by date.

Joe Buck's great crime is that he doesn't seem to care about the game he's calling.  The audio of him announcing David Tyree's ridiculous 'helmet catch' at a critical moment of the Super Bowl was basically "Caught by David Tyree.  And the Giants call time out.  Ball inside the 25."

Tim McCarver, by comparison, would have just been telling a story about something Steve Carleton told him in 1973.
 
2013-10-21 02:17:14 PM  

chimp_ninja: The Bestest: I kinda don't get that either.. maybe its nostalgia from before McCarver went senile.

I think it's this.  McCarver was an insightful announcer in the 1980s when:
1) He paid attention to the game.
2) He paid serious attention to the pitcher-catcher dynamic at a time when most announcers never mentioned it.  Framing a pitch, pick-off move details, positioning, calls, etc.  Granted, he made it sound like the catcher completely controlled the outcome of every play, but at least you learned something about how the position was played.

Much like Phil Rizzuto, he just stayed on the job well past his sell-by date.

Joe Buck's great crime is that he doesn't seem to care about the game he's calling.  The audio of him announcing David Tyree's ridiculous 'helmet catch' at a critical moment of the Super Bowl was basically "Caught by David Tyree.  And the Giants call time out.  Ball inside the 25."

Tim McCarver, by comparison, would have just been telling a story about something Steve Carleton told him in 1973.


That sums it up.
McCarver outside of the booth is still fun to listen to and this tempers my dislike for "Booth McCarver"
Joe Buck's voice is coma inducingly dull to begin with and he adds nothing to the broadcast.
I get national guys need to call a "neutral" game but it doesn't need to be so dry.
 
2013-10-21 02:20:05 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: That sums it up.
McCarver outside of the booth is still fun to listen to and this tempers my dislike for "Booth McCarver"
Joe Buck's voice is coma inducingly dull to begin with and he adds nothing to the broadcast.
I get national guys need to call a "neutral" game but it doesn't need to be so dry.


The night that Verlander pitched was disgusting.  It was a McCarver/Buck fellatio of Verlander the entire night.  So much time dedicated to a losing pitcher while Lackey out-pitched him.
 
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