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(Pro Football Talk)   St. Louis Rams QB Sam Bradford, ineffective and now injured, leads team to discuss signing healthy free agent Tim Tebow   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 45
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2013-10-21 07:02:47 AM  
But don't they need a quarterback?
 
2013-10-21 07:42:27 AM  

Goimir: But don't they need a quarterback?


It makes perfect sense for an injured quarterback to promote Tebow. He knows that Tebow will bring excitement, but then fail to do anything worthwhile for the team, and Tebow's failed performances guarantee that when Bradford is healthy again, fans will welcome him back with open arms. It's a smart move.
 
2013-10-21 07:46:40 AM  

Goimir: But don't they need a quarterback?


That would hurt their draft position
 
2013-10-21 07:49:11 AM  
I'd rather see Brent come back.
 
2013-10-21 07:59:11 AM  
It's like every time you walk toward the kitchen your dog gets excited "Is it dinner time now? Now? How about NOW?"

QB gets injured and "Will Tebow be a Ram? How about a Jaguar? What about a Titan?? When? WHEN????"
 
2013-10-21 08:12:43 AM  
Please. Oh please. Do it. Do it in time for the Trollhawks game. Please.
 
2013-10-21 08:15:05 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's like every time you walk toward the kitchen your dog gets excited "Is it dinner time now? Now? How about NOW?"

QB gets injured and "Will Tebow be a Ram? How about a Jaguar? What about a Titan?? When? WHEN????"


I almost never see fans of the team in question advocating Tebow.  It's just everybody else, wanting to rubberneck, with a few haters of that team, wishing most horrible failure on their rival.
 
2013-10-21 08:15:41 AM  
They'd be better off getting Warner out of retirement.
 
2013-10-21 08:29:23 AM  
Have to wonder what would have been had Ryan actually given Tebow a chance.  Look at what Smith is doing with Dirty on the injured list.  Waste of a year, and possibly a career.  COuld have been a bust, but no way of ever knowing.  Rex was afraid of failure, and if Tebow did well, then also having to answer a bunch of questions as to why he waited.
 
2013-10-21 08:37:21 AM  

medic2731: Have to wonder what would have been had Ryan actually given Tebow a chance.  Look at what Smith is doing with Dirty on the injured list.  Waste of a year, and possibly a career.  COuld have been a bust, but no way of ever knowing.  Rex was afraid of failure, and if Tebow did well, then also having to answer a bunch of questions as to why he waited.


Rex Ryan wasn't afraid of failure, he was just butthurt over his own bruised ego. Ryan never wanted the Tebow trade in the first place but the Jets management basically forced it on him. He then refused to play Tebow for the entire season just to spite them.
 
2013-10-21 08:51:15 AM  
Oh, come off it Tebus fanboys. There probably wasn't a conspiracy to screw Tebow in NY. Tebow looked horrible and clueless in practice, and never showed any signs of becoming less so. Very few coaches would be willing to put a guy in when he does that. Besides, to use Tebow, Denver had to redesign its entire offense on the fly. Most coaches don't have what it takes to pull something like that off. Certainly not Ryan and Brian Schottenheimer.
 
2013-10-21 08:54:03 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: medic2731: Have to wonder what would have been had Ryan actually given Tebow a chance.  Look at what Smith is doing with Dirty on the injured list.  Waste of a year, and possibly a career.  COuld have been a bust, but no way of ever knowing.  Rex was afraid of failure, and if Tebow did well, then also having to answer a bunch of questions as to why he waited.

Rex Ryan wasn't afraid of failure, he was just butthurt over his own bruised ego. Ryan never wanted the Tebow trade in the first place but the Jets management basically forced it on him. He then refused to play Tebow for the entire season just to spite them.


Or it could have been that he stunk every time he tried to run their offense in camp and pratice. Saying the coach did anything just to stick it to management is laughable unless you think he really REALLY wanted to be fired. Jets management had just signed Sanchez to an extension so why would they immediately want to bench him for a guy that can't toss a 10 yard out without short-hopping it? Tebow was brought in for publicity and merch sales and  possibly to provide some kind of spark via the wildcat or small package of plays designed just for him. Ownership didn't spend the extra cash locking in their "franchise" QB just to bench him and strip the offense down to the single wing in hopes of maybe going 8-8.
 
2013-10-21 09:08:53 AM  
This will be an interesting offseason.

The Rams were already on the fence on wether to give Bradford a new contract extension to help the salary cap but I would guess now that they just cut him and end the experiment.

Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.
 
2013-10-21 09:39:00 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Please. Oh please. Do it. Do it in time for the Trollhawks game. Please.


Monday Night Football against the Seahawks?  He'd get killed.  DO IT!  MAKE HIM A MARTYR!
 
2013-10-21 09:49:18 AM  

bluenote13: Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.


Watch the Bengals. When Andy Dalton's contract is up and he gets to hear Mike Brown say, "You want to be paid what you're WORTH? Let me laugh a little harder..."  the Rams can probably pick him up.
 
2013-10-21 09:57:42 AM  

js34603: They'd be better off getting Warner out of retirement.


If he'd play like he did at the turn of the century or at the end of his career, I'd love to have him.
 
2013-10-21 09:58:10 AM  

harleyquinnical: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Please. Oh please. Do it. Do it in time for the Trollhawks game. Please.

Monday Night Football against the Seahawks?  He'd get killed.  DO IT!  MAKE HIM A MARTYR!


But he would rise up and be ready for a Thursday night game.
 
2013-10-21 09:58:57 AM  

medic2731: Have to wonder what would have been had Ryan actually given Tebow a chance.  Look at what Smith is doing with Dirty on the injured list.  Waste of a year, and possibly a career.  COuld have been a bust, but no way of ever knowing.  Rex was afraid of failure, and if Tebow did well, then also having to answer a bunch of questions as to why he waited.


the_vegetarian_cannibal: medic2731: Have to wonder what would have been had Ryan actually given Tebow a chance.  Look at what Smith is doing with Dirty on the injured list.  Waste of a year, and possibly a career.  COuld have been a bust, but no way of ever knowing.  Rex was afraid of failure, and if Tebow did well, then also having to answer a bunch of questions as to why he waited.

Rex Ryan wasn't afraid of failure, he was just butthurt over his own bruised ego. Ryan never wanted the Tebow trade in the first place but the Jets management basically forced it on him. He then refused to play Tebow for the entire season just to spite them.


This kind of "analysis" just gets sillier every time it has to be refuted. Tebow isn't so damn special. He came with an opportunity to compete, he sucked ass more than Sanchez and he wound up on the bench. Could the team have done more to try to work him in as a change-of-pace guy? Possibly.
 
2013-10-21 10:17:21 AM  
They can probably get Brandon Weeden for the nothing. The Browns might even pay for the plane ticket.

/Browns fan
//Dare to dream
///He's terrible
 
2013-10-21 10:48:05 AM  
I would get Jim Irsay's opinion first.
 
2013-10-21 10:56:59 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I would get Jim Irsay's opinion first.


Intentionally tank the season to get #1 pick?
 
2013-10-21 10:57:55 AM  

EyeballKid: bluenote13: Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.

Watch the Bengals. When Andy Dalton's contract is up and he gets to hear Mike Brown say, "You want to be paid what you're WORTH? Let me laugh a little harder..."  the Rams can probably pick him up.


I can only hope that happens. Tired of Dalton. Cincinnati should've won there last 3 games by 14+ each.
 
2013-10-21 11:13:12 AM  

js34603: They'd be better off getting Warner out of retirement.


He'd at least wait till after the upcoming MNF game.
 
2013-10-21 11:13:17 AM  
Available for trade:

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2013-10-21 11:42:43 AM  
Bucs kicking themselves they didn't hold onto Freeman for 2 more weeks. He had legit trade value right after they released him.
 
2013-10-21 11:45:00 AM  

stappawho: js34603: They'd be better off getting Warner out of retirement.

He'd at least wait till after the upcoming MNF game.


Warner has been pretty consistent in saying he doesn't think the Seahawks are all that good, so now's a perfect time for him to put his money where his mouth is.
 
2013-10-21 11:45:14 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Rex Ryan wasn't afraid of failure, he was just butthurt over his own bruised ego. Ryan never wanted the Tebow trade in the first place but the Jets management basically forced it on him. He then refused to play Tebow for the entire season just to spite them.


GTFO.  If Woody Johnson told him to play Tebow he would have.  Tebow was so bad in practice that he was booed by the fans.....IN PRACTICE  Tebow is NOT an NFL quarterback.
 
2013-10-21 12:36:51 PM  
Tebow has padded hit resume with impressive work in the CFL and Arena League, so sure he deserves another shot at the NFL.

What's that?  He turned down all those offers? And refused to consider a position change?  Oh.  Never mind.
 
2013-10-21 12:55:01 PM  

bluenote13: This will be an interesting offseason.

The Rams were already on the fence on wether to give Bradford a new contract extension to help the salary cap but I would guess now that they just cut him and end the experiment.

Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.


Ohh goody, they can ruin another fine young rookie.
 
2013-10-21 01:23:09 PM  
Sam won't go anywhere. If anything, this is a free ticket to another chance for him next year. He'll be hyped up next preseason as "looking better than he's ever looked" and then come out flat with
 
2013-10-21 01:24:17 PM  

cards fan by association: Sam won't go anywhere. If anything, this is a free ticket to another chance for him next year. He'll be hyped up next preseason as "looking better than he's ever looked" and then come out flat with


...
 
2013-10-21 01:26:17 PM  
Okay, guess I can't used triple periods. He'll come back with the same 5 YPA he's thrived with since day one.
 
2013-10-21 01:27:21 PM  

bluenote13: This will be an interesting offseason.

The Rams were already on the fence on wether to give Bradford a new contract extension to help the salary cap but I would guess now that they just cut him and end the experiment.

Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.


It's a deep class for QBs too.

Yesterday was Black Sunday in the NFL with regards to the number of major injuries to key players around the league. Bears are without Briggs for 4-6 weeks, Tillman for a while, and Cutler indefinitely, possibly the season.
 
2013-10-21 01:30:56 PM  

germ78: Cutler indefinitely, possibly the season.


just heard on the radio: torn muscle in groin, out 4 weeks or so.
 
2013-10-21 01:39:28 PM  

cards fan by association: Okay, guess I can't used triple periods. He'll come back with the same 5 YPA he's thrived with since day one.


New filter: deletes all ellipses and everything following
 
2013-10-21 01:39:35 PM  
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2013-10-21 01:48:00 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: bluenote13: This will be an interesting offseason.

The Rams were already on the fence on wether to give Bradford a new contract extension to help the salary cap but I would guess now that they just cut him and end the experiment.

Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.

Ohh goody, they can ruin another fine young rookie.


You are forgetting one thing...this is not their QB.  This was a draft pick of a previous regime and has the unfortunate tag of being the last big money draft QB.

Had the Rams been terrible enough to get the 1st overall pic one year later a mistake would have cost them $22 million (Cam Netwon) and not $60 million (and netted a QB with better skills).  There is less risk, money-wise, now when you screw up.  And with 2 #1's this year they have a decent chance to get what they want.

Honestly, I think they are not too upset about this.  Bradford was never going to get that big contract from the Rams.  Not for being an average QB, at best.  Now they get to have an excuse for being bad again this year and with Washington's record I would think the Rams will draft about 8-11 (thier own) and 13-16 (Washington).  That will be enough to get one of the decent QB's (If they don't get a guy like Dalton) and still get a OT that they need.
 
2013-10-21 02:02:16 PM  

bluenote13: Slaves2Darkness: bluenote13: This will be an interesting offseason.

The Rams were already on the fence on wether to give Bradford a new contract extension to help the salary cap but I would guess now that they just cut him and end the experiment.

Two first round picks, likely in the top 15, will mean a new QB in STL next year.

Ohh goody, they can ruin another fine young rookie.

You are forgetting one thing...this is not their QB.  This was a draft pick of a previous regime and has the unfortunate tag of being the last big money draft QB.

Had the Rams been terrible enough to get the 1st overall pic one year later a mistake would have cost them $22 million (Cam Netwon) and not $60 million (and netted a QB with better skills).  There is less risk, money-wise, now when you screw up.  And with 2 #1's this year they have a decent chance to get what they want.

Honestly, I think they are not too upset about this.  Bradford was never going to get that big contract from the Rams.  Not for being an average QB, at best.  Now they get to have an excuse for being bad again this year and with Washington's record I would think the Rams will draft about 8-11 (thier own) and 13-16 (Washington).  That will be enough to get one of the decent QB's (If they don't get a guy like Dalton) and still get a OT that they need.


Mentally, Bradford was already damaged when Fisher came to town. I do think he'll (Fisher) will do everything he can to make Sam look like a good investment to ownership. That's the only reason you keep hyping the guy up when he hasn't shown the ability of other #1 overall picks. It would be best IMO to let us start over at QB (again) and let Sam have a fresh slate somewhere else.
 
2013-10-21 02:25:55 PM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: harleyquinnical: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Please. Oh please. Do it. Do it in time for the Trollhawks game. Please.

Monday Night Football against the Seahawks?  He'd get killed.  DO IT!  MAKE HIM A MARTYR!

But he would rise up and be ready for a Thursday night game.


There's only one way to test that.  Then again, I'm having a little schadenfreude because this is a similar storyline as Rick Mirer, who looked to be the second coming of Joe Montana coming out of Notre Dame, only to proove how mediocre he really was.

As for the Rams, maybe bringing back Kurt Warner would help, but he wouldn't make it through MNF either.
 
2013-10-21 02:45:31 PM  

cards fan by association: It would be best IMO to let us start over at QB (again) and let Sam have a fresh slate somewhere else.


I'd take a flier on him up in Chicago. If Marc Trestman is really the QB whisperer he's billed as, it would be an intriguing project.
 
2013-10-21 03:25:52 PM  

germ78: cards fan by association: It would be best IMO to let us start over at QB (again) and let Sam have a fresh slate somewhere else.

I'd take a flier on him up in Chicago. If Marc Trestman is really the QB whisperer he's billed as, it would be an intriguing project.


Well keep in mind that would be his fourth coaching staff. Not sure if interesting or train wreck.
 
2013-10-21 03:52:08 PM  
Tebow should just stay in the desert twerking his mirkin.

Buffalo should trade Matt Flynn to either Chicago or St. Louis further moving him to "Town Bicycle" status.
 
2013-10-21 06:05:05 PM  
I think they are going to keep Bradford. There was talk of a contract extension already in the works a few weeks back. I disagree, I think he's a serviceable option but I fail to see him ever being in the upper tier of quarterbacks.

If ever there was an out, this is it. But I doubt the Rams will take it. Clemens will play the season out with some trash backup to backup his trash and then the Rams will probably take a chance on a quarterback in the third round unless some sure thing drops in their lap in the first round.

My theory, anyway...
 
2013-10-21 08:47:24 PM  

Benjamin Stone: I think they are going to keep Bradford. There was talk of a contract extension already in the works a few weeks back. I disagree, I think he's a serviceable option but I fail to see him ever being in the upper tier of quarterbacks.

If ever there was an out, this is it. But I doubt the Rams will take it. Clemens will play the season out with some trash backup to backup his trash and then the Rams will probably take a chance on a quarterback in the third round unless some sure thing drops in their lap in the first round.

My theory, anyway...


Fish just said again tonight that Sam is the franchise QB no doubt about it. He'll be back next year. So we have that to look forward to. Like you said, he's okay but nothing to get excited about.
 
2013-10-22 12:53:23 AM  
Well, Tebow would be a better pick up than Josh Freeman was.
 
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