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2013-10-21 10:22:56 AM  

doglover: Model rocket starters AREN'T multi-use, and without Tepco or similar neither are batteries.

Hence the problem.


It's a quick way to complete a circuit that's no muss no fuss and can be used to generate a very fast heat source. Different strokes different folks I guess.
 
2013-10-21 10:37:18 AM  
"Dr." Manny Alvarez vs "Dr." Keith Ablow: Who is the bigger charlatan?


Discuss among yourselves.
 
2013-10-21 10:41:35 AM  

Apos: "Dr." Manny Alvarez vs "Dr." Keith Ablow: Who is the bigger charlatan?


Discuss among yourselves.


Dr. / Dr.?

Give me the news.
 
2013-10-21 10:53:31 AM  
FTFA: "And studies have shown that these videogames can sometimes condition people, especially young children, to be apathetic towards violence. "

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2013-10-21 11:00:18 AM  
My coffee smeels like brains.
 
2013-10-21 11:03:39 AM  

dittybopper: Today, they are a way for people to discuss killing people without being so gauche as to discuss killing living, breathing people.  They are a metaphor, at least among survivalist circles, for the people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary.


I can certainly see how that would play out, but The Walking Dead doesn't seem like a great example. Rick and Co. had absolutely no survival plan before the apocalypse hit and it looks like they made it through the first few weeks by dumb luck - Rick in particular, seeing as he was in a coma. After that they frequently invade homes, stores, etc, kill the zombie residents and then loot whatever they can. In the survivalist prepper fantasy Rick's group could very accurately be described as "people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary. "
 
2013-10-21 11:10:18 AM  
Zombie obsession is an obsession of us turning into monsters. The Zombie is the generic monster which packs up into hordes to destroy civilization. It is an expression of how we see ourselves, our lives, and our future. In this time of economic uncertainty,  where Boomers are unprepared for retirement, Mellinials are not even able to start an adult career, and Xer's are squeezed for every last dollar they can beg, borrow or steal it is no wonder that our pop culture monsters are zombies.
 
2013-10-21 11:14:45 AM  

Target Builder: dittybopper: Today, they are a way for people to discuss killing people without being so gauche as to discuss killing living, breathing people.  They are a metaphor, at least among survivalist circles, for the people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary.

I can certainly see how that would play out, but The Walking Dead doesn't seem like a great example. Rick and Co. had absolutely no survival plan before the apocalypse hit and it looks like they made it through the first few weeks by dumb luck - Rick in particular, seeing as he was in a coma. After that they frequently invade homes, stores, etc, kill the zombie residents and then loot whatever they can. In the survivalist prepper fantasy Rick's group could very accurately be described as "people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary. "


Like the TeaBaggers? The "preppers" I know are all hard core TeaParty assholes, and that's the entire basis for their "prepping", That they will have to take by force the things they need or want because the distribution systems will all be destroyed. That's why they are stocked up mostly on motor fuels, ammunition and lots of weapons.

An intelligent "prepper" would be stocking up on things like salt, pepper and other spices, sugar, raw bulk foods that are set up to be stored for the long term and things that can do stuff like purify water and build things. Tools, equipment etc. and seeds for crops.

It's funny how so many of these guys are stocked up on weaponry, but little else.
 
2013-10-21 11:16:14 AM  

Target Builder: dittybopper: Today, they are a way for people to discuss killing people without being so gauche as to discuss killing living, breathing people.  They are a metaphor, at least among survivalist circles, for the people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary.

I can certainly see how that would play out, but The Walking Dead doesn't seem like a great example. Rick and Co. had absolutely no survival plan before the apocalypse hit and it looks like they made it through the first few weeks by dumb luck - Rick in particular, seeing as he was in a coma. After that they frequently invade homes, stores, etc, kill the zombie residents and then loot whatever they can. In the survivalist prepper fantasy Rick's group could very accurately be described as "people who didn't prepare for the massive collapse of society, and who would roam around looking for food, etc., and who would be willing to take it by force if necessary. "


TWD (which I have not seen, btw) may not be a great example.  But the zombie phenomenon of the last few years didn't start and end with The Walking Dead.
 
2013-10-21 11:17:54 AM  
Huh.  I didn't realize that advanced psychology and sociology studies were included as part of the battery of training needed to be an OB/GYN.

Perhaps he's suggesting this based on his own personal model of obsessive response.....
 
2013-10-21 11:38:38 AM  

Mugato: Millennium: while the latest vampire craze was farking Twilight.

You don't need a research paper to understand the appeal of Twilight. Vampires are sexy. Teenage vampires bring in the tween girls. The fact that he's actually 100 years old and trolls high schools for tail is immaterial.


The transformation of vampires is actually way more interesting than the zombie craze. Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice. They were a mix of violence, sexual perversion, and animalistic urges. The monster lurking inside man. Any high society manners were just a clever mask for the monster underneath. Now we've pretty much decided that there's nothing so bad about base desires and so vampirism is mostly just sexy and fun.
 
2013-10-21 11:42:08 AM  

slayer199: Apparently, Mr. Moran doesn't understand the sociological implications of the zombies phenomena.  It's not about the undead butthead, it's about the living.  Zombies are a deadly environmental threat, it's how the living deal with that environmental threat.


I wish we had zombies instead of global warming. You can't solve greenhouse gasses by shooting them in the head.
 
2013-10-21 11:42:12 AM  
Deathfrogg:

An intelligent "prepper" would be stocking up on things like salt, pepper and other spices, sugar, raw bulk foods that are set up to be stored for the long term and things that can do stuff like purify water and build things. Tools, equipment etc. and seeds for crops.

There are a lot of types of prepper, and plenty do the above. IMO if you're planning for a wholesale collapse of society learning skills that are lost in the modern era would be at least as useful as having more than a few weeks food spare - for example, if you're in a temperate region and plan to make it through your second winter then knowing how to can food would be an extremely useful skill.
 
2013-10-21 12:01:16 PM  

odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice


Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.
 
2013-10-21 12:04:22 PM  

HailRobonia: odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice

Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.


Crazy how things change.
 
2013-10-21 12:15:18 PM  
"Hate me all you want, or call me paranoid and misinformed"
How about dumb shiat, moran, idiot, dim bulb, brain dead, just plain stupid.
 
2013-10-21 12:20:21 PM  

Gunny Highway: HailRobonia: odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice

Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.

Crazy how things change.


Yeah, well, we'll find something that scares us and come up with a way to have intercourse with it.
 
2013-10-21 12:27:36 PM  

HailRobonia: odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice

Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.


Except for the vampire stories where the vampires come back to haunt their families, and have vampire kids. There are lots of weird variations to the Eastern European vampire myth. In some stories you can place the vampire's favorite whiskey at his grave, and he won't bother you again.
 
2013-10-21 12:33:23 PM  
Replace the word "Zombie" with "Soldier" and it works the same way, but just a different genre.  Difference is when you're killing zombies, it's just fantasy, and we can't have that.  Replace the word "Zombie" with "Mainstream News Reporter" and you'll understand how this article makes me feel.
 
2013-10-21 12:33:51 PM  
dittybopper:
Yeah, well, we'll find something that scares us and come up with a way to have intercourse with it.

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2013-10-21 12:35:03 PM  
I thought zombies as a plot device was played out in the '80s.  It's boring.
 
2013-10-21 12:37:53 PM  
Anyone calling themselves "Doctor Manny" is automatically disqualified to speak about grown up concepts even if this did warrant a conversation.

No, the TV show about zombies is not hurting america you sad little Doctor Phil wannabe.
 
2013-10-21 12:43:47 PM  

Target Builder: Deathfrogg:

An intelligent "prepper" would be stocking up on things like salt, pepper and other spices, sugar, raw bulk foods that are set up to be stored for the long term and things that can do stuff like purify water and build things. Tools, equipment etc. and seeds for crops.

There are a lot of types of prepper, and plenty do the above. IMO if you're planning for a wholesale collapse of society learning skills that are lost in the modern era would be at least as useful as having more than a few weeks food spare - for example, if you're in a temperate region and plan to make it through your second winter then knowing how to can food would be an extremely useful skill.


*IF* you are so inclined, the best thing you can do to prepare is to learn the skills you might need post-apocalypse.  Things like trapping with snares (why hunt a deer when you can snare it?), etc.  How to prepare skins and hides without modern chemicals (ie., brain tanning).  Knapping flint, making bows, etc.

If you are just stocking up to last through some natural disaster, well, the skill set is a bit different.  It's basically modern camping.
 
2013-10-21 12:50:27 PM  
I like the vampires in the Hellboy universe.

/still are not up to current so I have yet to read BPRD: Vampires
 
2013-10-21 12:56:37 PM  
dittybopper:

*IF* you are so inclined, the best thing you can do to prepare is to learn the skills you might need post-apocalypse.  Things like trapping with snares (why hunt a deer when you can snare it?), etc.  How to prepare skins and hides without modern chemicals (ie., brain tanning).  Knapping flint, making bows, etc.

If you are just stocking up to last through some natural disaster, well, the skill set is a bit different.  It's basically modern camping.


Oh, fully agreed - 'canning' wasn't supposed to be an exhaustive list of skills to learn in preparation for the end of civilization by any means, just one of many that would be very useful and that has been largely forgotten in the west now that we've had over half a century with ubiquitous availability of electricity, refrigeration and pre-processed mass-produced food.
 
2013-10-21 01:09:50 PM  
The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.
 
2013-10-21 01:14:21 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.


Most of them haven't realized that they can't get down into their disaster silo on their hoveround.
 
2013-10-21 01:16:28 PM  

Beeblebrox: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Most of them haven't realized that they can't get down into their disaster silo on their hoveround.


lol
 
2013-10-21 01:16:40 PM  

bostonguy: Spengler, one of the few intelligent conservatives today, makes this point:

Sometime in 2011 the total number of film plots with the keyword "zombie" passed the number of film plots with the keyword "cowboy," according to the Internet Movie Database. One might argue that the zombie has become the great American archetype of the postmodern era, as the cowboy was the American archetype a century ago. With the release of Brad Pitt's $200 million zombie epic what used to be the stuff of low-budget shockers has entered the American cultural mainstream. Therein lies a lesson. ...

Dying cultures are the living dead. Half of the world's 6,000 languages will disappear by the end of this century. They are zombie cultures. But we Americans are gestating a zombie culture inside what used to be a "country with the soul of a church," as G.K. Chesterton put it. The hedonistic narcissism that took over popular culture during the 1960s produced a spiritual deadening like nothing in American history. That's why we are so fascinated with zombies. We identify with them.

I'd also add my thoughts earlier in the thread about zombie banks, vampires, and such.


Anyone who identifies with the conservatives, with the republicans, CANNOT biatch about any sort of "Spiritual deadening" coming from the left. It wasn't farking *LEFTISTS* that created the goddamn abomination that is the Prosperity Gospel, a flavor of religion so farked up it apparently ignores some biggest, largest sticking points *THAT THE BOOK THEY CLAIM IS THE LITERAL TRUTH TALKS ABOUT*

I mean, fark! The only people Jesus gets angry at IN THE farkING BIBLE are the folks using religion to make money! He doesn't get angry at Judas, he doesn't get angry at the romans come to take him away/executing him (Forgive them, father. They know not what they do), he doesn't get angry at GODDAMN SATAN, the epitomy of evil in the christian religion! But the money changers in the temple? Oh holy shiat.
 
2013-10-21 01:21:53 PM  

Beeblebrox: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Most of them haven't realized that they can't get down into their disaster silo on their hoveround.


No, then can get down into them.  Ever hear of a little thing, just made a major motion picture about it, called "gravity"?

Getting back up?  Well, that's another story.
 
2013-10-21 01:22:47 PM  

HailRobonia: odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice

Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.


If by "modern" you mean "since at least 1872." Historians would agree with that definition (most would even chide you for not going back far enough), but the fact remains that Western culture has been sexualizing vampires since well before living memory.
 
2013-10-21 01:23:32 PM  

dittybopper: Beeblebrox: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Most of them haven't realized that they can't get down into their disaster silo on their hoveround.

No, then can get down into them.  Ever hear of a little thing, just made a major motion picture about it, called "gravity"?

Getting back up?  Well, that's another story.


I'm opening a business on modernizing bunkers with wheel chair accessible ramps, who wants to get in on this. We'll make a mint.
 
2013-10-21 01:29:09 PM  

dittybopper: Beeblebrox: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Most of them haven't realized that they can't get down into their disaster silo on their hoveround.

No, then can get down into them.  Ever hear of a little thing, just made a major motion picture about it, called "gravity"?

Getting back up?  Well, that's another story.


Gravity is just a theory.  I propose we test this on the Hoveround riding preppers, for science.
 
2013-10-21 01:31:39 PM  

Felgraf: Anyone who identifies with the conservatives, with the republicans, CANNOT biatch about any sort of "Spiritual deadening" coming from the left. It wasn't farking *LEFTISTS* that created the goddamn abomination that is the Prosperity Gospel, a flavor of religion so farked up it apparently ignores some biggest, largest sticking points *THAT THE BOOK THEY CLAIM IS THE LITERAL TRUTH TALKS ABOUT*

No, but it was the leftists who created liberation theology. Prosperity theology is poison, make no mistake about that, but like most of the tricks in the conservative book, it came about by making only minor tweaks to what their opponents had been doing for decades: the same flaws, pointed in only slightly different directions. Ignore a phrase here, "reinterpret" a verse there, and make the end result say exactly what you want.

 
2013-10-21 01:31:56 PM  

Millennium: HailRobonia: odinsposse: Vampires used to be allegories of uncontrolled vice

Of course, we all know that outside of modern literature and cinema, folk legends of vampire are firmly rooted in fear of death and disease (particularly consumption) and have little, if any, sexual components.

If by "modern" you mean "since at least 1872." Historians would agree with that definition (most would even chide you for not going back far enough), but the fact remains that Western culture has been sexualizing vampires since well before living memory.


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2013-10-21 01:51:11 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.


Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.
- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.
- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.
- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.
- Whoops! Turns out that family history of cancer/heart disease/liver disease wasn't something to laugh at after all.
- Long-term waste disposal is going to be a huge problem. 'Nuff said there.
- Same with clean water. Filters, iodine tabs and reserve tanks only go so far. And if any of that water leaks out....
- Go back to the first condition. Nature will never stop trying to force its way in. We take this for granted because we have nice homes and take care of them, or hire someone to do it. Someone who can go outside and work without their brains being eaten.
 
2013-10-21 01:51:26 PM  
Faux News has done more damage to America than zombies ever will.  At least zombies don't deny they're fictional.
 
2013-10-21 01:57:35 PM  

verbaltoxin: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.
- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.
- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.
- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.
- Whoops! Turns out that family history of cancer/heart disease/liver disease wasn't something to laugh at after all.
- Long-term waste disposal is going to be a huge problem. 'Nuff said there.
- Same with clean water. Filters, iodine tabs and reserve tanks only go so far. And if any of that water leaks out....
- Go back to the first condition. Nature will never stop trying to force its way in. We take this for granted because we have nice homes and take care of them, or hire someone to do it. Someone who can go outside and work without their brains being eaten.




Most of the problems you mentioned would be long range problems. I think most would die quickly in the breakdown of society.
 
2013-10-21 02:12:36 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: verbaltoxin: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.
- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.
- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.
- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.
- Whoops! Turns out that family history of cancer/heart disease/liver disease wasn't something to laugh at after all.
- Long-term waste disposal is going to be a huge problem. 'Nuff said there.
- Same with clean water. Filters, iodine tabs and reserve tanks only go so far. And if any of that water leaks out....
- Go back to the first condition. Nature will never stop trying to force its way in. We take this for granted because we have nice homes and take care of them, or hire someone to do it. Someone who can go outside and work without their brains being eaten.

Most of the problems you mentioned would be long range problems. I think most would die quickly in the breakdown of society.


You could get sick the first week of the apocalypse. Or discover you're allergic to a wild herb your plant guide said was edible.
 
2013-10-21 02:14:33 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Zombies are bad because socialism. We're scraping the bottom of the barrel here, Fox News.


Holy shiat can he possibly take a bigger leap?

Really, Socialism?

He just had to get that jab in there didnt he.
Good god...
 
2013-10-21 02:30:59 PM  
verbaltoxin:

Most of the problems you mentioned would be long range problems. I think most would die quickly in the breakdown of society.

You could get sick the first week of the apocalypse. Or discover you're allergic to a wild herb your plant guide said was edible.


Unless the fall of civilization is due to some sort of pandemic getting seriously sick the first few weeks would be an outlier risk that nobody without extensive medical training would be prepared for. The idea is to prepare for what you can prepare for. That or radiation sickness if the precipitating event is nuclear in nature, in which case you're farked regardless of your medical training.

Getting sick a few months in - particularly due to illnesses like cholera, typhoid, dysentery and other serious illness that are rarely a concern in a world where modern sanitation provides clean water and removes human waste without us even having to think about it would be a big issue. Stay away from people with the runs. Probably a good idea to avoid folks with a persistent cough too, as you can forget finding antibiotics for TB.

I'd hazard a guess that folks with serious allergies would be thinned from the herd pretty quickly.

Of course, this is all assuming you manage to get through the first few weeks/months when so many others didn't.

/not a prepper, just prepared for reasonably likely emergencies and have an interest in learning forgotten skills.
 
2013-10-21 02:45:58 PM  

verbaltoxin: You could get sick the first week of the apocalypse. Or discover you're allergic to a wild herb your plant guide said was edible.


These could indeed happen, but there comes a point when you've got the odds so low that worrying about them, even given what is at stake, becomes basically pointless.
 
2013-10-21 02:49:29 PM  

Target Builder: verbaltoxin:

Most of the problems you mentioned would be long range problems. I think most would die quickly in the breakdown of society.

You could get sick the first week of the apocalypse. Or discover you're allergic to a wild herb your plant guide said was edible.

Unless the fall of civilization is due to some sort of pandemic getting seriously sick the first few weeks would be an outlier risk that nobody without extensive medical training would be prepared for. The idea is to prepare for what you can prepare for. That or radiation sickness if the precipitating event is nuclear in nature, in which case you're farked regardless of your medical training.

Getting sick a few months in - particularly due to illnesses like cholera, typhoid, dysentery and other serious illness that are rarely a concern in a world where modern sanitation provides clean water and removes human waste without us even having to think about it would be a big issue. Stay away from people with the runs. Probably a good idea to avoid folks with a persistent cough too, as you can forget finding antibiotics for TB.

I'd hazard a guess that folks with serious allergies would be thinned from the herd pretty quickly.

Of course, this is all assuming you manage to get through the first few weeks/months when so many others didn't.

/not a prepper, just prepared for reasonably likely emergencies and have an interest in learning forgotten skills.


Most people aren't prepared for viral meningitus and yet, it happens, often inconveniently timed.

And we're talking preppers, who are themselves outliers. I'm detailing all the ironic ways their hilarious plans can go wrong.

What I'm saying is that preppers aren't really any better off than the rest of the world's population during the presumed end of the world.
 
2013-10-21 02:53:39 PM  

Millennium: verbaltoxin: You could get sick the first week of the apocalypse. Or discover you're allergic to a wild herb your plant guide said was edible.

These could indeed happen, but there comes a point when you've got the odds so low that worrying about them, even given what is at stake, becomes basically pointless.


That's kinda my point. Preppers are obsessed with an outlier, a highly unlikely occurrance.
 
2013-10-21 02:54:08 PM  

verbaltoxin: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.


That's really not that big a problem, unless the assumption is that outside is so unsafe that you can't go outside at all without major risk.

- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.

Meh.  You worry about the common stuff.

- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.

Probably won't kill you, but 99 times out of 100 you'll know it's bad when you open it, or on the first taste.

- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.

Flintlocks, longbows/recurves, and crossbows that don't have wheels.  And learn how to make a bow, a crossbow, and arrows/bolts.  Bowstrings are easy to make also.

Making black powder might also be a good thing to learn, as is reloading:  Literally tens of thousands of people already do that.

Failing that, learn how to make an use an atlatl.  Simple, and effective.  And carry a melee weapon of some sort.

- Whoops! Turns out that family history of cancer/heart disease/liver disease wasn't something to laugh at after all.

Not much you can do about that.

- Long-term waste disposal is going to be a huge problem. 'Nuff said there.

Cesspit/outhouse.

- Same with clean water. Filters, iodine tabs and reserve tanks only go so far. And if any of that water leaks out....

Filtering/boiling.

- Go back to the first condition. Nature will never stop trying to force its way in. We take this for granted because we have nice homes and take care of them, or hire someone to do it. Someone who can go outside and work without their brains being eaten.

Again, meh.  You do what you gotta do.
 
2013-10-21 02:59:01 PM  
Another point out cholera, etc.:  We know what it is, what causes it, and how to completely avoid it.

That puts us head and shoulders above our ancestors.  And it's not some arcane prepper knowledge:  Every boy scout who's been on a camping trip knows you boil the water from a stream or lake before you use it.
 
2013-10-21 03:05:54 PM  

dittybopper: Another point out cholera, etc.:  We know what it is, what causes it, and how to completely avoid it.

That puts us head and shoulders above our ancestors.  And it's not some arcane prepper knowledge:  Every boy scout who's been on a camping trip knows you boil the water from a stream or lake before you use it.


I was going to write out a crazy faux "anti-boiling water" screed like the anti-vaccination hooey, but I realized that Poe's law might come into effect...
 
2013-10-21 03:19:42 PM  

verbaltoxin: Most people aren't prepared for viral meningitus and yet, it happens, often inconveniently timed.


Did you mean bacterial meningitis. Viral meningitis is normally not very serious and clears up on its own without any specific treatment. A lot of people are vaccinated against the bacterial version these days too.

dittybopper: Another point out cholera, etc.:  We know what it is, what causes it, and how to completely avoid it.

That puts us head and shoulders above our ancestors.  And it's not some arcane prepper knowledge:  Every boy scout who's been on a camping trip knows you boil the water from a stream or lake before you use it.


True, knowing that disease is caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites puts people today a long way ahead of our ancestors in avoiding them, although the ease with which these illnesses can be avoided would nosedive if you removed sanitation facilities from the world. Well - I suppose it depends on how isolated you and your water supply are from other folk.
 
2013-10-21 03:26:35 PM  

dittybopper: verbaltoxin: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.

That's really not that big a problem, unless the assumption is that outside is so unsafe that you can't go outside at all without major risk.

- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.

Meh.  You worry about the common stuff.

- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.

Probably won't kill you, but 99 times out of 100 you'll know it's bad when you open it, or on the first taste.

- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.

Flintlocks, longbows/recurves, and crossbows that don't have wheels.  And learn how to make a bow, a crossbow, and arrows/bolts.  Bowstrings are easy to make also.

Making black powder might also be a good thing to learn,


This is why I save my urine. Collect it in a shallow and allow it to evaporate. There's your nitrates for black powder.

 
2013-10-21 03:35:45 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: dittybopper: verbaltoxin: Mid_mo_mad_man: The gun nut preppers will be the first to die in the zombie plague. They will look to stamp out the plague and end up getting killed. Your best bet is to keep your head down and doors locked. If TWD is to be trusted it would be best to live in a suburb or rural town. Try to be a loner.

Preppers would do okay until:

- A leak or breach occurs somewhere in their shelter (This can happen simply due to water damage from normal rainfall), and they have to go outside to fix it.

That's really not that big a problem, unless the assumption is that outside is so unsafe that you can't go outside at all without major risk.

- They get a medical condition their training doesn't qualify them to treat - and there are literally thousands of those.

Meh.  You worry about the common stuff.

- They forget to check that one canned food item that expired or got a hole in it, and ate something rancid.

Probably won't kill you, but 99 times out of 100 you'll know it's bad when you open it, or on the first taste.

- They realize there aren't any bullet manufacturers anymore, or anyone who knows how to fix compound bows or crossbows.

Flintlocks, longbows/recurves, and crossbows that don't have wheels.  And learn how to make a bow, a crossbow, and arrows/bolts.  Bowstrings are easy to make also.

Making black powder might also be a good thing to learn,


This is why I save my urine. Collect it in a shallow pan and allow it to evaporate. There's your nitrates for black powder.

 
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