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2013-10-20 07:11:30 PM
what a joke

i made the mistake once of going a total of 8 miles into iowa with 5 being interstate.  i have not seen such a pathetic excuse for a highway.  it was a series of pot holes interrupted with bits of pavement.


why anyone would want to travel in that god forsaken sump of a state beats the hell out of me.
 
2013-10-20 07:31:11 PM
Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.
 
2013-10-20 07:49:00 PM

snuffy: what a joke

i made the mistake once of going a total of 8 miles into iowa with 5 being interstate.  i have not seen such a pathetic excuse for a highway.  it was a series of pot holes interrupted with bits of pavement.


why anyone would want to travel in that god forsaken sump of a state beats the hell out of me.


I had to, to get from Chicago to Seattle via the fastest route.  What's your excuse?
 
2013-10-20 07:49:53 PM

TheHighlandHowler: Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.


This!
 
2013-10-20 08:10:55 PM
Probably because more people pass through Iowa rather than live there.
 
2013-10-20 08:11:21 PM

TheHighlandHowler: Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.


Exactly. And when you're running fundraisers, the less you have to spend on your end when someone fights the ticket means more coin in your pocket. Let's face it, there are hundreds of anecdotes about people lawyering up or the cop not showing up, but I'd venture to say that one out of a hundred people ticketed get out of the ticket, and most of them blow the money on lawyer fees anyway.

Ticket writing is a fundraiser for the revenooers. Always was, always will be. It doesn't change behavior. Ever.
 
2013-10-20 08:31:34 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: snuffy: what a joke

i made the mistake once of going a total of 8 miles into iowa with 5 being interstate.  i have not seen such a pathetic excuse for a highway.  it was a series of pot holes interrupted with bits of pavement.


why anyone would want to travel in that god forsaken sump of a state beats the hell out of me.

I had to, to get from Chicago to Seattle via the fastest route.  What's your excuse?


It's called an airplane. What you were driving on is normally not fit for people to travel long distances.
 
2013-10-20 09:05:00 PM
Well duh, it's all about drug profiling, confiscations, seizures.
 
2013-10-20 09:11:29 PM
No shiat

Iowa has got to have some sort of revenue stream. The revenue from tobacco taxes isn't enough for the welfare state
 
2013-10-20 09:21:03 PM
Same as in most states, except Indiana; they never pull over anyone even when they are going 90 with Florida plates.
 
2013-10-20 09:21:59 PM
If you only go 9 mph or under it's not a moving violation and they probably won't waste their time. Whenever I did get pulled over or see someone else get pulled over by highway patrol they were usually doing 15 or more over.
 
2013-10-20 09:24:49 PM

TheHighlandHowler: Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.


Well, a lot of out of state drivers don't pay tickets either.
 
2013-10-20 09:28:24 PM
"Do you know how fast you were going sir?"

"No, officer, I was just trying to get through Iowa as fast as possible."
 
2013-10-20 09:29:34 PM
fta The troopers are attempting to identify a small percentage of serious repeat criminal offenders, who studies have shown are responsible for more than half of all crime, he said.

Would you crazy maniacs please quit speeding through Iowa and doing crimes? Sheesh!

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2013-10-20 09:31:40 PM
Officer, I know I was going faster than 55MPH, but I wasn't going to be on the
road an hour. -- Steven Wright
 
2013-10-20 09:31:55 PM
lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-10-20 09:33:34 PM
When you're on I-80, Iowa goes on for farking ever.  You have to speed, unless you want to prolong the agony.
 
2013-10-20 09:33:54 PM
Does the Romerocopter use ethanol now?
 
2013-10-20 09:36:59 PM
I guess most of you have never crossed Nebraska
 
2013-10-20 09:39:54 PM
Been happening alot longer than just 2001. I was pulled over in 98 with Cal license plates. In outside Davenport. We decided to go to Chicago to see a cubs game. Was with 2 friends. We just picked 1 up from college. Asked me st step out of my car. and get into his. I always thought that was weird. Asked me the basic questions. Who are you. Who are they. What are you doing here. Same thing as story. Had cruise set at 65. Clocked me doing 69. Very up front oh that my friends x and y. We just picked y up from graduation at college. Just kind of looks at me then the car. Do you have anything in the car? No just my friends stuff from college. Do you have anything else? A bottle of everclear sealed in the trunk....OK this is just a warning

Atleast here in Utah they are honest about having quotas. I hate it when cops have nothing else to do but harass people on fishing expeditions.  I really dont care about the excuse. Well this is a major drug route because it heads to Chicago. Or here in Utah oh the 70 is known as drug highway. I dont care. You dont shotgun your stops hopping that 1 out of 30 or 40 might have something in it. All you do is waist legal drivers time.
 
2013-10-20 09:41:23 PM
Des Moines isn't a bad city.  At least to visit. If you arrive and leave by airplane.
 
2013-10-20 09:44:14 PM

Do_wacka_Do: I guess most of you have never crossed Nebraska


Quite a few times. As fast as possible. Also both Dakotas. Truly wonderful people. Really terrific. Some really great people. But I never need to see a farm again. Or ice blowing sideways. Or air that'll kill you if you breath too deep. Did I mention the cold? Sweet Jebus. I'm a California boy and that shiat isn't natural.
 
2013-10-20 09:46:45 PM
What happened Iowa? The State Patrol used to never pull you over for doing less than 15 over on the interstate.Once in a great while there was a new trooper in a county that was an asshole, but it was pretty rare.

Warnings were rare too-because if they bothered to stop you, it was cause you'd really messed up. If you were on the highway and got pulled over, seeing that guy in the brown uniform (vs the tan shirt of a sheriff's deputy) pull that smokey bear hat on his head told you it was going to cost you some money.
 
2013-10-20 09:46:45 PM

discount sushi: If you only go 9 mph or under it's not a moving violation and they probably won't waste their time. Whenever I did get pulled over or see someone else get pulled over by highway patrol they were usually doing 15 or more over.


pretty much this.
 
2013-10-20 09:51:21 PM
I got pulled over four months ago in Iowa because the trooper didn't know what state my license plate was from.  He interrogated me and my friend for half an hour and tried to search our car.  Fortunately I secretly recorded the whole thing and refused to let him do shiat.

fark Iowa state patrol.
 
2013-10-20 09:53:13 PM

snuffy: what a joke

i made the mistake once of going a total of 8 miles into iowa with 5 being interstate.  i have not seen such a pathetic excuse for a highway.  it was a series of pot holes interrupted with bits of pavement.


why anyone would want to travel in that god forsaken sump of a state beats the hell out of me.


The only joke here I see is your comment.
 
2013-10-20 09:54:06 PM
See also: Ohio.

4 speeding tickets in my life, 2 from Ohio troopers.
 
2013-10-20 09:55:23 PM
The one useful unintended consequence of Sam Brownback's misgovernance is that the Kansas Highway Patrol doesn't have the funds to do the hardcore saturation on I-70 anymore. When I lived in Kansas, I could not go 60 miles on 70 without seeing multiple cars being torn apart to search for drugs.
 
2013-10-20 09:58:12 PM

kombi: Been happening alot longer than just 2001. I was pulled over in 98 with Cal license plates. In outside Davenport. We decided to go to Chicago to see a cubs game. Was with 2 friends. We just picked 1 up from college. Asked me st step out of my car. and get into his. I always thought that was weird. Asked me the basic questions. Who are you. Who are they. What are you doing here. Same thing as story. Had cruise set at 65. Clocked me doing 69. Very up front oh that my friends x and y. We just picked y up from graduation at college. Just kind of looks at me then the car. Do you have anything in the car? No just my friends stuff from college. Do you have anything else? A bottle of everclear sealed in the trunk....OK this is just a warning

Atleast here in Utah they are honest about having quotas. I hate it when cops have nothing else to do but harass people on fishing expeditions.  I really dont care about the excuse. Well this is a major drug route because it heads to Chicago. Or here in Utah oh the 70 is known as drug highway. I dont care. You dont shotgun your stops hopping that 1 out of 30 or 40 might have something in it. All you do is waist legal drivers time.


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2013-10-20 09:59:03 PM

Notabunny: fta The troopers are attempting to identify a small percentage of serious repeat criminal offenders, who studies have shown are responsible for more than half of all crime, he said.

Would you crazy maniacs please quit speeding through Iowa and doing crimes? Sheesh!


Wait.
If they were trying to "identify a small percentage of serious repeat offenders" how the heck did they know that they "are responsible for more than half of all crime"?!!?!1!

*SLAP*
 
2013-10-20 10:00:28 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Des Moines isn't a bad city.  At least to visit. If you arrive and leave by airplane.


The best way to visit Des Moines is by Zeppelin.
 
2013-10-20 10:01:12 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: TheHighlandHowler: Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.

Exactly. And when you're running fundraisers, the less you have to spend on your end when someone fights the ticket means more coin in your pocket. Let's face it, there are hundreds of anecdotes about people lawyering up or the cop not showing up, but I'd venture to say that one out of a hundred people ticketed get out of the ticket, and most of them blow the money on lawyer fees anyway.

Ticket writing is a fundraiser for the revenooers. Always was, always will be. It doesn't change behavior. Ever.


I beg to differ.

 Around here at least anyway.

 People tend to drive a *lot* better when the police are lurking around trying to catch speeders. In fact, you can tell when the cops haven't been out in a while because suddenly everyone is doing at least 10 over and about a chunk of drivers are doing 15 over. That they make it nearly impossible for people to enter the road safely and cause a lot of heart attacks when they suddenly have to slam on the breaks to avoid someone using the crosswalk.

 It's true, ticket's bring in revenue. And there are definitely areas were you're walking around with a big "Easy Mark!" sign above you if you pass through (like Iowa apparently). All of that is very very true.

 People still mind their Ps and Qs when they know the police are about though.
 
2013-10-20 10:02:55 PM

atomic-age: The one useful unintended consequence of Sam Brownback's misgovernance is that the Kansas Highway Patrol doesn't have the funds to do the hardcore saturation on I-70 anymore. When I lived in Kansas, I could not go 60 miles on 70 without seeing multiple cars being torn apart to search for drugs.


They keep that down on the 40 and the 10 now. Mostly.
 
2013-10-20 10:03:55 PM
Only time I've been pulled over for speeding was in Iowa. I was driving a truck with Florida plates. I was going 59 in a 55.

I don't know if that means anything, but it's a relevant csb so I had to share.

Discuss or ridicule, farkers.
 
2013-10-20 10:04:17 PM
If you are driving on I-80, the speed limit has been 75 for the last 16 hours, and suddenly goes down to like 60.  And the second you cross the border into Iowa, there are cops every 100 yards ready to nab you.
 
2013-10-20 10:07:17 PM
Any major drug corridors? I bet more people are pulled over going the opposite direction.
 
2013-10-20 10:07:25 PM
If I'm speeding then write me a ticket. Don't ask me where I'm from or where I'm going, what I have in my car or any of that if all I was doing was 4 over the limit in a f*ing flat fly-over state like Iowa. If the trooper makes me get in his car to question me he had better arrest me because I have important friends on FARK.
 
2013-10-20 10:09:28 PM
Have to assume my state's plates are now pull-over fodder ... solution?

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2013-10-20 10:10:17 PM

cuzsis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: TheHighlandHowler: Newsflash:  Out of state drivers rarely fight tickets.

Exactly. And when you're running fundraisers, the less you have to spend on your end when someone fights the ticket means more coin in your pocket. Let's face it, there are hundreds of anecdotes about people lawyering up or the cop not showing up, but I'd venture to say that one out of a hundred people ticketed get out of the ticket, and most of them blow the money on lawyer fees anyway.

Ticket writing is a fundraiser for the revenooers. Always was, always will be. It doesn't change behavior. Ever.

I beg to differ.

 Around here at least anyway.

 People tend to drive a *lot* better when the police are lurking around trying to catch speeders. In fact, you can tell when the cops haven't been out in a while because suddenly everyone is doing at least 10 over and about a chunk of drivers are doing 15 over. That they make it nearly impossible for people to enter the road safely and cause a lot of heart attacks when they suddenly have to slam on the breaks to avoid someone using the crosswalk.

 It's true, ticket's bring in revenue. And there are definitely areas were you're walking around with a big "Easy Mark!" sign above you if you pass through (like Iowa apparently). All of that is very very true.

 People still mind their Ps and Qs when they know the police are about though.


Thus demonstrating that traffic enforcement doesn't change behavior. Speeders toe the line only until they are out of sight of the police. A criminal being polite to a judge doesn't make him any less of a criminal once he leaves the courtroom.
 
2013-10-20 10:13:53 PM

atomic-age: The one useful unintended consequence of Sam Brownback's misgovernance is that the Kansas Highway Patrol doesn't have the funds to do the hardcore saturation on I-70 anymore. When I lived in Kansas, I could not go 60 miles on 70 without seeing multiple cars being torn apart to search for drugs.


Ah, KHP. CSB time.

Heading to Wyoming from Missouri with my dad, making our annual trip to Jackson Hole. We'd just made it outside of KC when I notice a funny smell, and then notice that our rear window has been sprayed with a fine greasy mist. Car's temp starts skyrocketing, so we pull into the Kansas Turnpike toll station, where a number of KHP officers are standing around chatting, drinking coffee. They see us pull in, pop the hood, root around under the car, make phone calls, etc, and not once does one of them walk over to see if we're ok/need assistance/etc. After about 20 min of this, one of them finally walks over and says

"Fellas, you can't park your car here, this is for emergency vehicles only. If you don't move it it's going to get towed."

My dad (incredulous) mentions that the car is clearly farked up, transmission fluid is leaking onto the concrete and visible fumes are still rising from the engine bay. It's worth mentioning that the car was clearly loaded down for a roadtrip, rooftop carrier, sitting low on its springs. He explains that the car CAN'T be moved under its own power, and we'll have to go get either a trailer or a tow truck to move it. Cop gets all huffy and says

"It really doesn't matter to me. If you leave it here, I can guarantee it won't be here when you get back."

My dad says "Will you tow a car with us inside it? You're welcome to tow it somewhere if we can ride inside it." Cop says no, my dad says "Great! We'll just wait here then." We proceed to lock ourselves in the car and wait while my brother makes the 5 hour drive to come pick one of us up so we can go get a truck, etc. Whole time we're waiting, every 15-30 minutes or so, a cop (not the same guy) taps on the window with his flashlight and hollers something like "The tow is on its way, and we'll be impounding your car." We'd just shrug and ask what they wanted us to do about it, and if they wanted us gone, they might have to get off their asses and help us, at which point, he'd walk away. I swear, he waited until we had just fallen asleep EVERY. TIME.

Fark cops. They're revenue generators/tax collectors. I have never in my life been assisted by a cop when I was in need of one, and cannot count the number of times I've been harassed by one with the hope that I'll do or say something stupid enough that they can collect cash from me. Fark the hero worship that cops receive, carte blanche. Firefighters are the ones deserving of the recognition, and it's because they don't have any authority to abuse.
 
2013-10-20 10:15:15 PM

kombi: Had cruise set at 65. Clocked me doing 69.


How is that even possible? I put on cruise as soon as I am on the highway and the speed hardly ever changes. I monitor the speed on the GPS and it changes by fractions of an MPH only.

Do people still talk to cops? Except your name, age and address, you aren't required to tell them anything else. Telling stuff to the police only leads to them trying to find more ways to detain you.
 
2013-10-20 10:20:09 PM
Nah, nah, looka here, see, ah am an oh FISH ul of the LAW, bwah.  Yew ain't gettin' uppity, are ya?  Sign here.
 
2013-10-20 10:20:38 PM

mr0x: kombi: Had cruise set at 65. Clocked me doing 69.

How is that even possible? I put on cruise as soon as I am on the highway and the speed hardly ever changes. I monitor the speed on the GPS and it changes by fractions of an MPH only.

Do people still talk to cops? Except your name, age and address, you aren't required to tell them anything else. Telling stuff to the police only leads to them trying to find more ways to detain you.


But not talking to them makes you seem non-compliant and makes them more likely to taze/assault/arrest you. There's really no way to win in that situation, especially if you're dealing with a rural cop and you're from out of state.
 
2013-10-20 10:25:24 PM
I call bullshiat. This stat implies that people who don't live in Iowa travel there for some reason. No way.
 
2013-10-20 10:34:37 PM

farkinglizardking: mr0x: kombi: Had cruise set at 65. Clocked me doing 69.

How is that even possible? I put on cruise as soon as I am on the highway and the speed hardly ever changes. I monitor the speed on the GPS and it changes by fractions of an MPH only.

Do people still talk to cops? Except your name, age and address, you aren't required to tell them anything else. Telling stuff to the police only leads to them trying to find more ways to detain you.

But not talking to them makes you seem non-compliant and makes them more likely to taze/assault/arrest you. There's really no way to win in that situation, especially if you're dealing with a rural cop and you're from out of state.


Your right. road fluctuations  tire size. hell wind can very your speed. But I have a few cop friends and they have told me the same thing. Anything above about 5 to 10mph..Also depends on conditions The police wont bother you unless its close to the end of the month and they are below there quota. And most of the time. When a cop lets you go with a warning. They are looking for something else.

Do people still talk to cops? Except your name, age and address, you aren't required to tell them anything else. Telling stuff to the police only leads to them trying to find more ways to detain you.

In most of America that will just get you detained. And they will make up the reason later.
 
2013-10-20 10:38:05 PM

kombi: In most of America that will just get you detained. And they will make up the reason later.


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Wakey wakey, land of the free.
 
2013-10-20 10:41:13 PM
So?
 
2013-10-20 10:43:31 PM

Gyrfalcon: So?


I think the whole kerfuffle has some purchase with the notion that armed revenuers preying upon people using the highway's in a united nation seems a bit less than an effective use of law enforcement.
 
2013-10-20 10:46:40 PM
*tosses in more random apostrophes*
 
2013-10-20 10:50:10 PM
Gyrfalcon,
So?


I will play. That would imply that people getting pulled over for traffic offenses like speeding is not actually based on safety, but is based on revenue.

Even if Iowa does have drivers that too often are conditioned to drive 5mph below the speed limit, maybe 5% of cars in Iowa don't have Iowan plates. And not all Iowan drivers are originally from small towns and drive like your grandma. Nothing against your grandma personally.

If you are OK with traffic tickets for revenue, then great. Many of us are tired of the repeated hypocrisy that traffic tickets are about public safety.
 
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