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2013-10-20 02:47:14 PM
Well, that escalated quickly.
 
2013-10-20 03:22:44 PM
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This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.
 
2013-10-20 03:28:36 PM
Very powerful images and video. I don't know how I missed this protest.
 
2013-10-20 03:36:58 PM

T-Servo: [i.embed.ly image 600x900]
This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.


While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.
 
2013-10-20 03:46:48 PM

Rincewind53: While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.


I didn't say it was peaceful (obviously it wasn't), I meant that it's a reaction to years of bad policies. I just don't want people to think, "Holy crap, those Elsipogtog are nuts!" because the violence came out of nowhere.

And I still like most RCMP officers, and don't want to see them turned into Harper's paramilitary stormtroopers.
 
2013-10-20 04:59:11 PM
That is some intense shiat. In the US we just let the big companies do whatever they want with our groundwater. Perhaps we thank them after they give us cancer or even use their fracking as an excuse to enrich our lawyers.

But to each their own. If there are any videos of beatdowns please share because those are always fun (and the only reason to watch hockey.)
 
2013-10-20 05:01:57 PM
Hey Mister! Can I pet your dog?
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2013-10-20 05:09:57 PM

Rincewind53: T-Servo: [i.embed.ly image 600x900]
This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.

While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.


I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...
 
2013-10-20 05:20:32 PM

ginandbacon: Rincewind53: T-Servo: [i.embed.ly image 600x900]
This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.

While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.

I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...


Probably some of our mercenaries. We have lots of them with little else to do these days. Not our armed forces, for sure. We haven't invaded Canada for a while.
By the way, do the First Nations in Canada have the same nation within a nation the US supposedly has?
 
2013-10-20 05:22:18 PM

ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...


That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on
 
2013-10-20 05:23:04 PM

simplicimus: ginandbacon: Rincewind53: T-Servo: [i.embed.ly image 600x900]
This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.

While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.

I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

Probably some of our mercenaries. We have lots of them with little else to do these days. Not our armed forces, for sure. We haven't invaded Canada for a while.
By the way, do the First Nations in Canada have the same nation within a nation the US supposedly has?


Yeah that's what I was thinking. 

I think they do but the government up there is actually worse than ours about honoring court decisions in their favor from what I understand? (Not sure really.)
 
2013-10-20 05:24:43 PM

T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on


Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.
 
2013-10-20 05:45:22 PM

T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on


There was reports of private security but they appeared have been chased away by the protesters, perhaps they came back with a bit more force?

That being said I think the actions of the protesters is just disgusting, the weapons found, IED's, Molotov cocktails, threatening members of the media and lighting vehicles on fire. People have a right to peaceful protest but that isn't what this disgusting display is.
 
2013-10-20 05:49:44 PM

ginandbacon: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.


Also, I've been looking at more photos and they're not even wearing the same gear. I don't know enough about how army personnel are outfitted to know it that's normal or not but wouldn't they have the same hats--at least of the same type? I mean I can understand how different ranks and guys might not be wearing the same things, but there seems to be a lot of variation from one guy to the nest in their uniforms even when they are wearing the same *style* of thing: hat, shirt (jacket?) and so on. And I really haven't been able to find one guy with any kind of badge or nametag or sign of rank or anything. Wouldn't that be normal? And a lot of them have bandannas or something covering their faces.I'm going to try to find some better pictures...
 
2013-10-20 05:55:23 PM

ginandbacon: ginandbacon: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.

Also, I've been looking at more photos and they're not even wearing the same gear. I don't know enough about how army personnel are outfitted to know it that's normal or not but wouldn't they have the same hats--at least of the same type? I mean I can understand how different ranks and guys might not be wearing the same things, but there seems to be a lot of variation from one guy to the nest in their uniforms even when they are wearing the same *style* of thing: hat, shirt (jacket?) and so on. And I really haven't been able to find one guy with any kind of badge or nametag or sign of rank or anything. Wouldn't that be normal? And a lot of them have bandannas or something covering their faces.I'm going to try to find some better pictures...


From what I've seen Canadian Forces members wear Cadpat (Canadian Disruptive Pattern) with a nametag on the left breast and a rank epaulette. What those guys are wearing looks nothing like that so I don't think it's them. As for the possibility of it being the RCMP I can't say I've ever seen any police force in Canada wear anything like that and I spend about 8 hours a day watching the news.
 
2013-10-20 06:00:03 PM
On the Canadian Hockey Riot Scale that's like a 5 out of 10.
 
2013-10-20 06:00:05 PM

change1211: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

There was reports of private security but they appeared have been chased away by the protesters, perhaps they came back with a bit more force?

That being said I think the actions of the protesters is just disgusting, the weapons found, IED's, Molotov cocktails, threatening members of the media and lighting vehicles on fire. People have a right to peaceful protest but that isn't what this disgusting display is.


I would be very against any kind of violent protest in any circumstance as I am a pacifist. (I also think it's just not productive) but I really don't think governments should EVER use mercenaries against citizens. I have no idea if that actually happened here. I'm just really curious as to the lack of IDs on these guys. I don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine the gas companies bringing in private security and I am really troubled by how hard it is to identify these guys. The fact that so many have covered their faces is really troubling to me. 

I've been in more than a few peaceful protests where cops covered their badges and name tags and started hitting people. (I have a lot of friends who are military and in law enforcement and I rarely have any issues with those professions, so please know this is not a knee-jerk reaction on my part.) These images have me uneasy though.
 
2013-10-20 06:06:18 PM

ginandbacon: I don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine the gas companies bringing in private security and I am really troubled by how hard it is to identify these guys. The fact that so many have covered their faces is really troubling to me.


All of this has happened before and will happen again. See: Pinkerton's.
 
2013-10-20 06:06:45 PM

ginandbacon: change1211: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

There was reports of private security but they appeared have been chased away by the protesters, perhaps they came back with a bit more force?

That being said I think the actions of the protesters is just disgusting, the weapons found, IED's, Molotov cocktails, threatening members of the media and lighting vehicles on fire. People have a right to peaceful protest but that isn't what this disgusting display is.

I would be very against any kind of violent protest in any circumstance as I am a pacifist. (I also think it's just not productive) but I really don't think governments should EVER use mercenaries against citizens. I have no idea if that actually happened here. I'm just really curious as to the lack of IDs on these guys. I don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine the gas companies bringing in private security and I am really troubled by how hard it is to identify these guys. The fact that so many have covered their faces is really troubling to me. 

I've been in more than a few peaceful protests where cops covered their badges and name tags and started hitting people. (I have a lot of friends who are military and in law enforcement and I rarely have any issues with those professions, so please know this is not a knee-jerk reaction on my part.) These images have me uneasy though.


I have a lot of trouble disagreeing with pretty much all of that. I don't like unidentified men in camouflage with guns and I want to know more about it. I also don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine that the gas companies involved with this have hired private security because they did. Said security guys got chased away so perhaps they're pretty angry and returned with dogs and guns. If that's true then it's wrong. Private security shouldn't try and enforce the law, that's why we have the police.
 
2013-10-20 06:08:07 PM

WTF Indeed: On the Canadian Hockey Riot Scale that's like a 5 out of 10.


Which is equivalent to three G20 riots.
 
2013-10-20 06:10:33 PM

simplicimus: ginandbacon: I don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine the gas companies bringing in private security and I am really troubled by how hard it is to identify these guys. The fact that so many have covered their faces is really troubling to me.

All of this has happened before and will happen again. See: Pinkerton's.


This is EXACTLY what I thought of.

change1211: I have a lot of trouble disagreeing with pretty much all of that. I don't like unidentified men in camouflage with guns and I want to know more about it. I also don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine that the gas companies involved with this have hired private security because they did. Said security guys got chased away so perhaps they're pretty angry and returned with dogs and guns. If that's true then it's wrong. Private security shouldn't try and enforce the law, that's why we have the police.


Yup. It's a line that should never crossed.
 
2013-10-20 06:11:07 PM
Huh, someone tried to burn down the RCMP detachment in Elsipogtog.

http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/10/20/rcmp-vacates-elsipogtog-first-n at ion-detachment/
 
2013-10-20 06:13:38 PM

change1211: Huh, someone tried to burn down the RCMP detachment in Elsipogtog.

http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/10/20/rcmp-vacates-elsipogtog-first-n at ion-detachment/


Oh sheesh. This is not going to end well.
 
2013-10-20 06:15:17 PM

ginandbacon: change1211: Huh, someone tried to burn down the RCMP detachment in Elsipogtog.

http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/10/20/rcmp-vacates-elsipogtog-first-n at ion-detachment/

Oh sheesh. This is not going to end well.


No, no it's not. Someone is going to get shot, both sides are armed.
 
2013-10-20 06:16:49 PM

change1211: ginandbacon: change1211: Huh, someone tried to burn down the RCMP detachment in Elsipogtog.

http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2013/10/20/rcmp-vacates-elsipogtog-first-n at ion-detachment/

Oh sheesh. This is not going to end well.

No, no it's not. Someone is going to get shot, both sides are armed.


Yeah. What a sorry shame.
 
2013-10-20 06:24:14 PM

ginandbacon: Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.


This is from over a year ago, but reportedly Harper has/had an illegal contract with Academi (AKA Blackwater) to train police.

I put feelers out about recent events, but as it's Sunday night responses are slow. My guess is that even if they're not American, they are private.
 
2013-10-20 06:29:04 PM

T-Servo: ginandbacon: Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.

This is from over a year ago, but reportedly Harper has/had an illegal contract with Academi (AKA Blackwater) to train police.

I put feelers out about recent events, but as it's Sunday night responses are slow. My guess is that even if they're not American, they are private.


Wow. Just wow.
 
2013-10-20 06:30:59 PM

T-Servo: ginandbacon: Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.

This is from over a year ago, but reportedly Harper has/had an illegal contract with Academi (AKA Blackwater) to train police.

I put feelers out about recent events, but as it's Sunday night responses are slow. My guess is that even if they're not American, they are private.


From your link:
"The idea that technical data was transferred to Canada also grabbed Mr. Perry's attention. He wonders what it was the U.S. thought was so sensitive that it could be shared with a private contractor, but not with its closest neighbour and military ally. "

Interesting question.
 
2013-10-20 06:36:34 PM
Welcome to Obama's Canada.
 
2013-10-20 06:38:59 PM

Damn, the Governor won't stop until he kills Rick and everyone else at the prison!


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2013-10-20 06:39:30 PM

ultraholland: Welcome to Obama's Canada.


Check out Academi's board of directors. More like Bush's Canada.
 
2013-10-20 06:43:19 PM
Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.
 
2013-10-20 06:44:01 PM

T-Servo: Rincewind53: While I don't approve of having snipers at a protest, EVER, this definitely wasn't a peaceful protest. I agree about Harper being a fascist, though.

I didn't say it was peaceful (obviously it wasn't), I meant that it's a reaction to years of bad policies. I just don't want people to think, "Holy crap, those Elsipogtog are nuts!" because the violence came out of nowhere.

And I still like most RCMP officers, and don't want to see them turned into Harper's paramilitary stormtroopers.


This has some good background on what you were talking about.
 
2013-10-20 06:45:17 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.


Do you really think this is going to turn out well for the protesters?
 
2013-10-20 06:47:08 PM

change1211: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.

Do you really think this is going to turn out well for the protesters?


And how does doing nothing turn out?  Should they just sit back while their entire regional water table is polluted for decades?
 
2013-10-20 06:47:14 PM
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2013-10-20 06:49:20 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: change1211: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.

Do you really think this is going to turn out well for the protesters?

And how does doing nothing turn out?  Should they just sit back while their entire regional water table is polluted for decades?


No, that doesn't mean they get to burn down police stations and use IED's to stop what they don't like.
 
2013-10-20 06:49:59 PM
One might say the natives were getting restless...

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2013-10-20 06:50:22 PM

ginandbacon: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.


At least you can see their faces. So there's that.
 
2013-10-20 06:51:42 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.


Isolated incident, and the majority of the country doesn't really care.

Majority of Canadians are so goddamned content and satisfied with their country they let lots of things slide. We're not nearly as quick to protest or complain as Americans, even if much of what Americans protest is ridiculous.
 
2013-10-20 06:54:04 PM
Somebody's heap big mad.
 
2013-10-20 06:54:51 PM
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2013-10-20 06:55:02 PM
Don't mess with our corporate interests, eh?
 
2013-10-20 06:55:46 PM

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I really would like to know who those guys in camo are.
 
2013-10-20 06:55:54 PM

change1211: BraveNewCheneyWorld: change1211: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Canadians are willing to fight for their own best interests, good for them.

Do you really think this is going to turn out well for the protesters?

And how does doing nothing turn out?  Should they just sit back while their entire regional water table is polluted for decades?

No, that doesn't mean they get to burn down police stations and use IED's to stop what they don't like.


So.. someone is trying to exploit/ruin their land, and they respond by burning police cars, and they're the dicks?  Sorry, but any authority who is there to facilitate exploitation is no authority at all.  They are thugs, nothing more.
 
2013-10-20 06:56:05 PM
Heil.
 
2013-10-20 06:56:11 PM

change1211: ginandbacon: ginandbacon: T-Servo: ginandbacon: I can't find any pics of these guys with any identifying insignia on them anywhere. There are some (admittedly breathless and conspiracy-like) reports that Americans were brought up to quell the protests. I'm kind of starting to wonder...

That would be a helluva story if Harper or the energy companies brought Americans mercs in. I wonder if the Economic Action Plan would pay for that under 'outreach consultants'? (And I'll admit that guy with the dog doesn't look like a Mountie, but what do I know?)

/I do know someone to ask... hold on

Let us know what you find out...the RCMPS all have easily seen badges and name tags. These guys? Not so much.

Also, I've been looking at more photos and they're not even wearing the same gear. I don't know enough about how army personnel are outfitted to know it that's normal or not but wouldn't they have the same hats--at least of the same type? I mean I can understand how different ranks and guys might not be wearing the same things, but there seems to be a lot of variation from one guy to the nest in their uniforms even when they are wearing the same *style* of thing: hat, shirt (jacket?) and so on. And I really haven't been able to find one guy with any kind of badge or nametag or sign of rank or anything. Wouldn't that be normal? And a lot of them have bandannas or something covering their faces.I'm going to try to find some better pictures...

From what I've seen Canadian Forces members wear Cadpat (Canadian Disruptive Pattern) with a nametag on the left breast and a rank epaulette. What those guys are wearing looks nothing like that so I don't think it's them. As for the possibility of it being the RCMP I can't say I've ever seen any police force in Canada wear anything like that and I spend about 8 hours a day watching the news.


The pictures so far all depict multicam outfits, pretty standard 5.11 tactical type shirts (sleeves are heavy duty ripstop, shirts are lightweight, meant to be worn under load bearing plate carriers).

The guys in the grass appear to be set up with AR10 sniper systems, typical of American army issue, but not iirc standard issue for Canadian anything. Their SWAT and military still use bolt action sniper systems as far as I know.

Need better pictures, but most of it looks like commercial tactical gear I can get anywhere including the plate carriers and guns.
 
2013-10-20 06:57:14 PM
We've seen this here in Wisconsin up arount the GTAC mine site in the Penokee Hills.

2.bp.blogspot.com

Angered a lot of people over the summer.  I understand GTAC needed to do something after some asshat vandalized some of their equipment, but they probably could have gotten the same job done with security guys dressed as mall cops armed with pistols without inciting so much anger.
 
2013-10-20 06:57:30 PM
Like how the captions said it was a peacefull protest, then next pictures were of burning cars, throwing stones, and masked rioters.
 
2013-10-20 06:58:10 PM

T-Servo: [i.embed.ly image 600x900]
This is Falluja-style riot control.

Not to excuse Harper's use of police to enforce energy policies that locals don't want, but this has already been escalating for years. There is a growing militant movement among First Nations in Canada, a response to energy extraction policies (and a certain colonial/residential schooling history) where natives have been screwed over and left with pools of toxic chemicals. But it usually doesn't get into the media.

Harper has been less sensitive to First Nations rights than Teddy Roosevelt.


Or, on the flip side of the coin, a lot of "first" nations morons have been programmed over the years by Hollywood into believing the myth that they're the noble red man, white man is the reason they're poor, stupid, disenfranchised (take your pick), and that they're somehow owed by the rest of Canada for...well living in Canada.
Get over the idea real quick. Canada is rapidly changing. About a 1/4 of the population is new. As in the last 25 years new. They don't owe you sh*t.
Got a beef? Go see the head of the crown. Complain to Queen Elizabeth and ask her for reparations.
And if you're poor, get a job. Work. Fill your pockets, brain and bank account like normal working people. If it was your land, it isn't anymore and never will be again. It's Canadian land. Nothing's going to change that. Sooner you accept that and move forward the happier you'll be.

...Yep. Grandson of a proud Anishinaabe. As in he was proud to get the hell off the reservation, get an education, and dedicate his entire life to rising through the ranks until he became a chief inspector of a local police force. He saw most Indians as poor excuses for human that were lazy, stupid and spent most of their time drunk and on welfare. Pissed him off....I don't blame.
 
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