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(Opposing Views)   Marco Rubio (R-Fla) claims that because Barack Obama beat the Republicans like a rented mule during the shutdown that he should surrender to them on immigration. Well, you have to admire their audacity   (opposingviews.com ) divider line
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2013-10-20 03:19:08 PM  
Little Putz keeps the Tea Bag party flag flying with his moronic views. Let's send the Cubans back.
 
2013-10-20 03:29:14 PM  
Don't Rubio and Obama agree on immigration?
 
2013-10-20 03:43:11 PM  
There's a fine line between audacity and stupidity.
Rubio is about five miles into the stupid.
 
2013-10-20 04:05:09 PM  

DamnYankees: Don't Rubio and Obama agree on immigration?


Rubio had one stance on immigration, then Obama shared that stance. Rubio now has a new stance on immigration.
 
2013-10-20 05:01:28 PM  
Has anyone ever seen this guy's birth certificate?

Just wondering...
 
2013-10-20 05:10:50 PM  
HE VOTED TO DEFAULT! Any thing he says should be ignored until he is removed from office.

Period.
 
2013-10-20 05:15:06 PM  
I suppose audacity is one way to describe it.
 
2013-10-20 05:16:34 PM  
They are just gonna keep swinging until something sticks
 
2013-10-20 05:16:55 PM  
blogs.miaminewtimes.com
 
2013-10-20 05:17:53 PM  
Is...  Is he retarded?  I mean seriously, is that guy mentally retarded?
 
2013-10-20 05:18:13 PM  
"You have a government and a White House ... and what they say is 'You're going to pass an immigration law that has both some legalization aspect and some enforcement,'" Rubio said. "What's not to say that this White House won't come back and cancel the enforcement aspects of it?"

Do they even know how government works at all? I am just curious
 
2013-10-20 05:18:42 PM  

ginandbacon: I suppose audacity is one way to describe it.


www.shellypalmer.com

"Choot-spa!!"
 
2013-10-20 05:19:56 PM  
oh joy

first cruz steps into the limelight, drops one of the flaming bowling pins he's juggling, setting his pants on fire and proudly shouting "ta da!"

now rubio is going to be the second act - according to the program its a tap-dancing number to the tune of "look me over"
 
2013-10-20 05:20:20 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: ginandbacon: I suppose audacity is one way to describe it.

[www.shellypalmer.com image 150x150]

"Choot-spa!!"


STOP SPITTING ON ME!!!! I mean treading! I totally meant treading.
 
2013-10-20 05:20:39 PM  

DamnYankees: Don't Rubio and Obama agree on immigration?


Just remember that most of his constituents love the affordable care act, but hate obamacare.
 
2013-10-20 05:20:50 PM  

ManateeGag: DamnYankees: Don't Rubio and Obama agree on immigration?

Rubio had one stance on immigration, then Obama shared that stance. Rubio now has a new stance on immigration.


Obama's took a stance on breathing, saying that people should do it regularly.
 
2013-10-20 05:21:05 PM  
The Audacity of Nope
 
2013-10-20 05:22:40 PM  
What's not to say that this White House won't come back and draw a giant penis on the moon with lasers?
 
2013-10-20 05:24:40 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Is...  Is he retarded?  I mean seriously, is that guy mentally retarded?


Came here to ask this. What colour is the sky in their world? Do they just say these things to get them written down in the press regardless of actual reality?
 
2013-10-20 05:26:06 PM  
when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?
 
2013-10-20 05:26:32 PM  

Hagbardr: The Audacity of Nope

Herp
 
2013-10-20 05:27:01 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


about 2002ish
 
2013-10-20 05:27:17 PM  
Rubio is like the only Republican talking about immigration reform at present and he has absolutely no votes to bring to the table aside from his own but still he has the audacity to say that Obama needs to fold to the Republican's (lack of) position?

Soz, Rube-ster, you need to sit your Teafaulting ass on the curb and let the grown ups handle this one.
 
2013-10-20 05:27:33 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


Edwin Meese?
 
2013-10-20 05:28:26 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


1994
 
2013-10-20 05:30:00 PM  

quatchi: Rubio is like the only Republican talking about immigration reform at present and he has absolutely no votes to bring to the table aside from his own but still he has the audacity to say that Obama needs to fold to the Republican's (lack of) position?

Soz, Rube-ster, you need to sit your Teafaulting ass on the curb and let the grown ups handle this one.


John McCain is on board. I think he views getting a deal on that one as something he can retire on.
 
2013-10-20 05:32:07 PM  
you'd figure someone would have put out a memo or something.  'hey everyone, the GOP is gonna switch to functional retardation as a management technique so here's what you gotta do to get ready'.

seriously - THIS Is what the Republicans consider to be quality leadership?  these are their bright stars?  their big brains with the plans to run the country...?

GOP: 'well you won last time so you have to let us win this time!  that's only fair.'
Obama: '...the f*ck you people smoking anyway? I don't have to do shiat except stay black and retire.'
GOP: 'look, if you don't let us win then that's not *fair* see?  you HAVE to let us win!'
Obama: [to secret service] "gentlemen, if you would kindly escort these children back to congressional day care, I have work to do.'
 
2013-10-20 05:34:34 PM  

quatchi: Rubio is like the only Republican talking about immigration reform at present and he has absolutely no votes to bring to the table aside from his own but still he has the audacity to say that Obama needs to fold to the Republican's (lack of) position?

Soz, Rube-ster, you need to sit your Teafaulting ass on the curb and let the grown ups handle this one.


Rubio's platform was heavy on immigration reform - as he is also an immigrant, he was (maybe still) a source of excitement - here is a young, handsome ( R ) who fits the much-needed criteria to attract voters none of the rest of "us" really want to be around.
No, he isn't retarded - but? he has the same blind spot that Cruz exhibits.

Obama threw this gauntlet down on camera ("my next three things are....") and I won $50 betting Rubio would take the bait on immigration before November 15th.  Give POTUS credit, it was like waving steak to a dog - deflects from the ACA rollout and potentially paints another newbie GOPer as eager and clueless as a freshman in the backseat at a drive-in.
 
2013-10-20 05:37:37 PM  
Please fight immigration reform tooth and nail. Please make opposition to it a central plank of your party. Shut down the government again to ensure everyone is clear that you don't want any Hispanics in this country at all. Please ensure you never win another national election ever.
 
2013-10-20 05:39:48 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-20 05:40:50 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Please fight immigration reform tooth and nail. Please make opposition to it a central plank of your party. Shut down the government again to ensure everyone is clear that you don't want any Hispanics in this country at all. Please ensure you never win another national election ever.


Rubio wants immigration reform, actually
He has no business making demands over it, but he isn't "anti"
 
2013-10-20 05:40:57 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


At least as far back as Newt Gingrich.
 
2013-10-20 05:44:33 PM  

parasol: Lost Thought 00: Please fight immigration reform tooth and nail. Please make opposition to it a central plank of your party. Shut down the government again to ensure everyone is clear that you don't want any Hispanics in this country at all. Please ensure you never win another national election ever.

Rubio wants immigration reform, actually
He has no business making demands over it, but he isn't "anti"


His party vehemently disagrees with him. Unless his plan calls for the immediate eviction of everyone who knows spanish and a Belin-Wall style border control.
 
2013-10-20 05:45:10 PM  

SilentStrider: Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?

At least as far back as Newt Gingrich.


I pin the beginning on the Impeachment. The whole country was looking at each other and saying "Really? For a blow job?" The line was "But he LIED UNDER OATH... about the blowjob."

It was the most insanely idiotic thing I had seen in my then young life.

The rest of the world pointed and laughed at us.
 
2013-10-20 05:45:59 PM  
So the repubs lost the last election in part because their position on immigration alienated the increasingly influential Latino vote? And now, to punish Obama for not caving in on the ACA, they're going to go out of their way to alienate the Latino vote? Do they have an actual strategy, is this some kind of petulant tantrum, or are they just doubling down on the stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.
 
2013-10-20 05:46:45 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


The moment they adopted the "Southern Strategy"
 
2013-10-20 05:47:25 PM  
We get it, he's black.
 
2013-10-20 05:47:45 PM  

Lost Thought 00: His party vehemently disagrees with him. Unless his plan calls for the immediate eviction of everyone who knows spanish and a Belin-Wall style border control.


They can get 60 votes in the Senate for it. Getting it even brought to the floor of the House?? Boehner would have to get Democratic votes again and I doubt he wants to do something like that again so soon after this last time.

Frankly, I don't even see how we get a budget deal done this year.
 
2013-10-20 05:48:23 PM  

clambam: So the repubs lost the last election in part because their position on immigration alienated the increasingly influential Latino vote? And now, to punish Obama for not caving in on the ACA, they're going to go out of their way to alienate the Latino vote? Do they have an actual strategy, is this some kind of petulant tantrum, or are they just doubling down on the stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.


I honestly don't know anymore.  you'd figure the GOP leadership would sit down and have an honest, off the record discussion amongst themselves about where they were, what their chances are, and what their goals should be over the next two years...but instead of having a frank discussion about their situation, they've decided they need to shoot even bigger holes in their own feet, then hang themselves for good measure.  its almost as if the Republicans want to make sure there is no chance the Democrats can lose in 2016.
 
2013-10-20 05:49:04 PM  

lordjupiter: Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?

1994


They made a commitment to be evil in 1964 (start of the southern strategy).  Prior to that they were often just evil by apathy (see Republican answers to the Great Depression, as well as the America Firsters).

Functional retardation of the GOP leadership was pretty much a slow and steady process (cue Goldwater quote).  Reagan didn't have much to begin with, and had Alzheimer's in his second term (his cabinet varied from James Watt to Dr. Koop, and they presumably were smart enough to keep the football away from him).  I can't really say that GHWBush's administration and general GOP leadership was noticeably dumber than Clinton's.  I certainly didn't agree with much of what he did, but he (and the rest of the leadership) wasn't stupid.

1992 might be a better answer, wasn't that when Pat Buchanan was the speaker (and set the general tone) of the GOP convention?  I remember the College Republicans of Maryland not bothering with working for GHWBush (the word RINO hadn't been invented yet, but they couldn't bother to try to keep Clinton out.  Don't begin to think they stopped whinging until W. was elected by SCOTUS)  and went straight to South Carolina to campaign for Helms.  The disease had set in but you might be right that they hadn't replaced the leadership until 1994 (and Gingrinch) until then.
 
2013-10-20 05:49:42 PM  

Lost Thought 00: parasol: Lost Thought 00: Please fight immigration reform tooth and nail. Please make opposition to it a central plank of your party. Shut down the government again to ensure everyone is clear that you don't want any Hispanics in this country at all. Please ensure you never win another national election ever.

Rubio wants immigration reform, actually
He has no business making demands over it, but he isn't "anti"

His party vehemently disagrees with him. Unless his plan calls for the immediate eviction of everyone who knows spanish and a Belin-Wall style border control.


oh yes, certainly.
he is quite popular at home

if he manages to avoid pitfalls, presents a moderately workable plan for consideration two things could happen:

1 - The GOP stonewalls (bad for them demographically);
2 - There is negotiation on what will be construed to be "amnesty for billions of free-loading brown people" (bad for the GOP demographically)

i can see him coming out ahead at least for the effort - but i can also see myself living on the French Rivera having mimosas on tuesday mornings
 
2013-10-20 05:51:11 PM  

ginandbacon: I suppose audacity is one way to describe it.


Completely full of sh*t is another
 
2013-10-20 05:52:09 PM  

Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?


Name one president since Eisenhower who hasn't been an absolute shiatbag in some form or another.

Obama probably has been the closest to a decent president we've had, but the way he caved on single payer healthcare was enough to make me vomit.

Carter? Nice man. Bad president. Weak.

Reagan? Neo-fascist corporate cocksucker.

Clinton? As hostile to the working class and the poor as Reagan.


Funny how far the GOP has fallen when, IMO, they were the last party to field a candidate of any honor or competence.
 
2013-10-20 05:52:32 PM  
He's the senator who just whi-i-ines,
"Obama undermines!"
Ru-Ru-Rubio!
 
2013-10-20 05:53:55 PM  

contrapunctus: Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?

Name one president since Eisenhower who hasn't been an absolute shiatbag in some form or another.

Obama probably has been the closest to a decent president we've had, but the way he caved on single payer healthcare was enough to make me vomit.

Carter? Nice man. Bad president. Weak.

Reagan? Neo-fascist corporate cocksucker.

Clinton? As hostile to the working class and the poor as Reagan.


Funny how far the GOP has fallen when, IMO, they were the last party to field a candidate of any honor or competence.


yes but we're talking about Rubio, not Huntsman
 
2013-10-20 05:55:51 PM  

NewportBarGuy: John McCain is on board. I think he views getting a deal on that one as something he can retire on.


Oh, right. Point taken. Two votes in the Senate in a row then. Agreed. McCain is looking for a legacy now that he's finally figured out he's never gonna be President.

parasol: Rubio's platform was heavy on immigration reform - as he is also an immigrant, he was (maybe still) a source of excitement - here is a young, handsome ( R ) who fits the much-needed criteria to attract voters none of the rest of "us" really want to be around.
No, he isn't retarded - but? he has the same blind spot that Cruz exhibits.

Obama threw this gauntlet down on camera ("my next three things are....") and I won $50 betting Rubio would take the bait on immigration before November 15th.  Give POTUS credit, it was like waving steak to a dog - deflects from the ACA rollout and potentially paints another newbie GOPer as eager and clueless as a freshman in the backseat at a drive-in.


Gratz on the 50 bucks. Money won in that kind of bet makes the Scotch you buy with it later taste all the sweeter. As to the excitement about the Rs having a young handsome Hispanic to try to win back some of the Hispanic vote you're right, much of the the rest of the GOP want those votes but don't want the policy or in reality the additional brown faces showing up at their meetings that comes with those votes.

Plus there's that whole thing where the GOP already have a large portion of the Cuban vote particularly in FLA and Hispanic Americans from other parts of the Spanish speaking world aren't necessarily gonna vote for the guy in significant numbers just cos he herps en espangol.
 
2013-10-20 05:58:22 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Is...  Is he retarded?  I mean seriously, is that guy mentally retarded?


He's pandering to the Tea Party. So yeah, retarded.
 
2013-10-20 05:59:55 PM  
quatchi:

Plus there's that whole thing where the GOP already have a large portion of the Cuban vote particularly in FLA and Hispanic Americans from other parts of the Spanish speaking world aren't necessarily gonna vote for the guy in significant numbers just cos he herps en espangol.

Here's the funny thing? FL 2nd and esp 3rd gen. latinos are no longer a sure lock for the GOP - the immigration issue, if fumbled, will further drive them away from the ( R ) party. Some of those  most impacted by potential reforms are coming of age to graduate/vote and look for work. Hard to do when you don't have a legal status.
 
2013-10-20 06:00:53 PM  

clambam: Do they have an actual strategy, is this some kind of petulant tantrum, or are they just doubling down on the stupid?


No, yes and yes.
 
2013-10-20 06:02:04 PM  

NewportBarGuy: SilentStrider: Weaver95: when did the GOP leadership become functionally retarded?

At least as far back as Newt Gingrich.

I pin the beginning on the Impeachment. The whole country was looking at each other and saying "Really? For a blow job?" The line was "But he LIED UNDER OATH... about the blowjob."

It was the most insanely idiotic thing I had seen in my then young life.

The rest of the world pointed and laughed at us.


lying under oath isn't a trait i want in my president. not about a burglary nor a sex act. hell lying about the damn sex act was stupider.  now ill admit i thought the impeachment was a bridge too far but my dislike for clinton reached new levels with the lie.
 
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