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2013-10-20 12:35:01 PM  
Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.
 
2013-10-20 12:44:06 PM  
How the f*ck does a pick up truck brake check someone on a bicycle ?

Hokey video is hokey
 
2013-10-20 01:06:27 PM  

Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.


Yeah.  And see how they slipped their expensive bike under the rear tires of the truck, just so the guy would run over and destroy it when taking off?  Sneaky assholes.
 
2013-10-20 01:10:21 PM  

One Bad Apple: How the f*ck does a pick up truck brake check someone on a bicycle ?

Hokey video is hokey


Hokey, as in 'fake'? This looks pretty damn authentic to me. It's no trick slamming your brakes on in front of a pack of speeding bicyclists. What's tripping your bullshiat trigger on this video?
 
2013-10-20 01:18:08 PM  
I hate that anyone was hurt, but did like the part where he ran over the bike they were too stupid to move at the end.

/the law will take care of the old man
 
2013-10-20 01:21:47 PM  

unyon: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

Yeah.  And see how they slipped their expensive bike under the rear tires of the truck, just so the guy would run over and destroy it when taking off?  Sneaky assholes.


They were using the bike to barricade the old guy. That bike is not there at the beginning of the video.

That's what happens when you leave your toys in the middle of the road

Norad:

Hokey, as in 'fake'? This looks pretty damn authentic to me. It's no trick slamming your brakes on in front of a pack of speeding bicyclists. What's tripping your bullshiat trigger on this video?


Hokey as in selectively edited. There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.
 
2013-10-20 01:37:47 PM  
One Bad Apple:

Hokey as in selectively edited. There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.

No doubt there is more to the story, but he lost a bit of sympathy when he admitted to deliberately running a guy off the road.
 
2013-10-20 01:42:31 PM  
Given where the video starts, it's hard to say who is at fault. Were the cyclists riding single file as required by law, or were they all over the road obstructing traffic? The video starts with him stopped in the middle of the road. Were the cyclists also in the middle of the road?
 
2013-10-20 01:56:44 PM  

Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.


Seeing as the guy was arrested and charged with assault, I'm guessing it wasn't.
 
2013-10-20 02:01:46 PM  

vartian: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

Seeing as the guy was arrested and charged with assault, I'm guessing it wasn't.


I was pretty convinced when he got out of his truck with a bat and admitted to running people off the road.
 
2013-10-20 02:04:49 PM  

Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.


Did they selectively edit him into leaving the scene of an accident?
 
2013-10-20 03:12:42 PM  

One Bad Apple: unyon: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

Yeah.  And see how they slipped their expensive bike under the rear tires of the truck, just so the guy would run over and destroy it when taking off?  Sneaky assholes.

They were using the bike to barricade the old guy. That bike is not there at the beginning of the video.

That's what happens when you leave your toys in the middle of the road

Norad:

Hokey, as in 'fake'? This looks pretty damn authentic to me. It's no trick slamming your brakes on in front of a pack of speeding bicyclists. What's tripping your bullshiat trigger on this video?

Hokey as in selectively edited. There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.


That was my favorite part, because they clearly put it there thinking he wouldn't run over it.
 
2013-10-20 03:29:20 PM  

One Bad Apple: There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.


You sound fat.
 
2013-10-20 03:49:28 PM  
I guess now we know how far we can push bicyclists.
 
2013-10-20 04:03:37 PM  

Dinki: Were the cyclists riding single file as required by law,


Yeah, right. This ranks right up there with leprechauns.
 
2013-10-20 04:36:18 PM  

Lsherm: One Bad Apple: unyon: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

Yeah.  And see how they slipped their expensive bike under the rear tires of the truck, just so the guy would run over and destroy it when taking off?  Sneaky assholes.

They were using the bike to barricade the old guy. That bike is not there at the beginning of the video.

That's what happens when you leave your toys in the middle of the road

Norad:

Hokey, as in 'fake'? This looks pretty damn authentic to me. It's no trick slamming your brakes on in front of a pack of speeding bicyclists. What's tripping your bullshiat trigger on this video?

Hokey as in selectively edited. There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.

That was my favorite part, because they clearly put it there thinking he wouldn't run over it.


I just chalked it up to "more dumb bikers need a physics lesson." There seems to be a lot of that going around.
 
2013-10-20 04:38:34 PM  
He's living the dream of "cantankerous old man".
 
2013-10-20 04:56:12 PM  
He was probably angry because he couldn't find a farmer's market.
 
2013-10-20 05:00:29 PM  
fark that old guy. fark him hard. He drove past them and slammed on his brakes. If he got past them they weren't blocking traffic. Looks like a wide enough road. Riding side by side is not illegal. Slamming on your brakes to obscure traffic is.

Here's the lesson fellow cyclists... Get a handlebar mounted camera and keep it on every ride. Russian dash cam style. Always have Strava or a bike computer on so you can have GPS and telemetry evidence to go along with your video. Best insurance money can buy.
 
2013-10-20 05:05:23 PM  

crotchgrabber: fark that old guy. fark him hard. He drove past them and slammed on his brakes. If he got past them they weren't blocking traffic. Looks like a wide enough road. Riding side by side is not illegal. Slamming on your brakes to obscure traffic is.

Here's the lesson fellow cyclists... Get a handlebar mounted camera and keep it on every ride. Russian dash cam style. Always have Strava or a bike computer on so you can have GPS and telemetry evidence to go along with your video. Best insurance money can buy.


For all we know, it's a two-lane road and the cyclists were taking up a good chunk of his lane.  We don't know what the situation was before the video started.

While he is certainly an ass for brake-checking them, I have seen way too many cyclists that seem to feel they own the farking road and ride two or three abreast.
 
2013-10-20 05:11:13 PM  

Dinki: Given where the video starts, it's hard to say who is at fault. Were the cyclists riding single file as required by law, or were they all over the road obstructing traffic? The video starts with him stopped in the middle of the road. Were the cyclists also in the middle of the road?


http://www.khou.com/news/local/Video-shows-fiery-confrontation-betwe en -74-year-old-driver-and-cycling-team-228423821.html

Ten members of the cycling team said they were riding single file on Lake Forest Driver near Old Conroe Road on Thursday night.
The cyclists claim 74-year-old driver Sherman Clark pulled up next to them and screamed for them to get off the road.
According to cyclists, Clark continued to taunt them, pulled ahead of them and then slammed on his brakes. That's when one of the riders reportedly crashed in to the back of Clark's truck.
"Once he saw me in his mirror, he veered right and slammed on the brakes. I had no time to react," said Rick Sauvageau.
Rick Sauvageau is now recovering with a fractured wrist and an injured shoulder and knee.
 ...
He was arrested on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and criminal mischief.
According to court records, Clark has since posted bond.
 
2013-10-20 05:23:07 PM  
Bike wasn't placed under the rear tire.  He clipped it from the front driving away, got it again with the rear.
 
2013-10-20 05:28:30 PM  

NeoCortex42: While he is certainly an ass for brake-checking them, I have seen way too many cyclists that seem to feel they own the farking road and ride two or three abreast.


Quite honestly, I never see cyclists taking over the road, I'm tired of this Fark meme. The most dangerous cyclists out there are the DUI crowd of guys who lost their drivers license. The guys in spandex know how dangerous it is. Most have dealt with stupid behavior like this at one point or another.

The old fark needs to lose his license and get some jail time. Probably a hell of a civil suit coming his way soon.
 
2013-10-20 05:31:54 PM  
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2013-10-20 05:37:57 PM  
One Bad Apple:
How the f*ck does a pick up truck brake check someone on a bicycle ?

Cars and trucks have better brakes than bicycles, and can stop about twice as fast at road speeds. If someone in a truck like that is passing a bicycle at anything better than walking speed, they can easily pull in front of the bike and stop too fast for the bike to stop.
.
 
2013-10-20 05:45:11 PM  

One Bad Apple: Hokey as in selectively edited. There is nothing about a brake check shown in the video. The differences in momentum and maneuverability of a truck vs a bicycle makes that scenario seem unlikely.


Were you born this dumb, or did you have to work at it?
 
2013-10-20 05:56:36 PM  
Goddamn bat man
 
2013-10-20 06:34:25 PM  

Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.


DERP! DERPA-DERPA-DOO! Idiot.
 
2013-10-20 06:35:57 PM  
I'd say these bicyclists handled themselves a FARK of a lot better than the motorcyclists in NY did.
 
2013-10-20 06:38:19 PM  

One Bad Apple: How the f*ck does a pick up truck brake check someone on a bicycle ?


Gee, I don't know.. maybe because a car can stop a lot faster than a bicycle when going the same speed?
 
2013-10-20 06:56:40 PM  

Dinki: Given where the video starts, it's hard to say who is at fault. Were the cyclists riding single file as required by law, or were they all over the road obstructing traffic? The video starts with him stopped in the middle of the road. Were the cyclists also in the middle of the road?


Single file is not required by law.
 
2013-10-20 06:57:02 PM  
No undercover cops were harmed in the making of this video.
 
2013-10-20 07:01:01 PM  
T-Servo:  You sound fat.

You sound like you're going to the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2013-10-20 07:01:20 PM  

NeoCortex42: For all we know, it's a two-lane road and the cyclists were taking up a good chunk of his lane.  We don't know what the situation was before the video started.


If it's a 2 lane road, and there isn't enough room for a car to safely squeeze alongside a bike, the bike should take the whole lane, or at least enough so that the overtaking car can't try to slide by until the opposing lane is clear.

If you're overtaking a slow moving vehicle, like a bike, don't pass until the oncoming lane is clear. It doesn't matter how much of "his lane" was taken up.  You pass when the oncoming lane is clear.  That's basic driving 101.
 
2013-10-20 07:02:30 PM  
That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.
 
2013-10-20 07:11:03 PM  

meehaw: That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.


You'd have to be pretty rich and stupid to pay 4 to 7 thousand dollars for a bicycle.
 
2013-10-20 07:12:33 PM  
Old man yells at cloud bicyclists.  Clearly in the wrong.  And carrying the baseball bat makes it even worse.

But the fact that the bicyclists call themselves a "racing club" makes me think that they've exhibited douchiness, too - if not on the day of the incident, then in the past.
 
2013-10-20 07:12:49 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: meehaw: That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.

You'd have to be pretty rich and stupid to pay 4 to 7 thousand dollars for a bicycle.


How do you figure?
 
2013-10-20 07:13:19 PM  

bikerific: NeoCortex42: For all we know, it's a two-lane road and the cyclists were taking up a good chunk of his lane.  We don't know what the situation was before the video started.

If it's a 2 lane road, and there isn't enough room for a car to safely squeeze alongside a bike, the bike should take the whole lane, or at least enough so that the overtaking car can't try to slide by until the opposing lane is clear.

If you're overtaking a slow moving vehicle, like a bike, don't pass until the oncoming lane is clear. It doesn't matter how much of "his lane" was taken up.  You pass when the oncoming lane is clear.  That's basic driving 101.


I CERTAINLY take the whole lane on a two lane road.  I want people to see me, and to have to pass me like I'm a car.  I'm not afraid of the random angry guy...at least he sees me.  I'm afraid of the teenager texting, or the soccer mom dealing with fighting kids in the back seat.  This is legal and warranted.

Source: http://www.biketexas.org/es/infrastructure/texas-bicycle-laws
 
2013-10-20 07:16:51 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: meehaw: That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.

You'd have to be pretty rich and stupid to pay 4 to 7 thousand dollars for a bicycle.


That's modest.  As a bike mechanic in a local shop, I routinely worked on bikes double that.  Just because you don't see the value in this sort of thing doesn't mean that everyone doesn't.  When I was racing I put more miles on my bike than on my car in a year.  Therefore, my bike was worth more than my car.  (It was a crappy car, but still.)
 
2013-10-20 07:22:03 PM  

karmachameleon: Mr. Eugenides: meehaw: That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.

You'd have to be pretty rich and stupid to pay 4 to 7 thousand dollars for a bicycle.

How do you figure?


Because the marginal improvement from a $500 bicycle to a $5000 bicycle is so minor that there's no payback.  Unless you're actually a professional racer it's just a penis extension.
 
2013-10-20 07:36:28 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: karmachameleon: Mr. Eugenides: meehaw: That bike the old bastard ran over is probably worth $4-7 grand.  The one that was damaged when he was brake checked might be worth the same who knows how many more were damaged.  I wonder how he will feel when he has to pay for bikes that could cost as much as his truck.

You'd have to be pretty rich and stupid to pay 4 to 7 thousand dollars for a bicycle.

How do you figure?

Because the marginal improvement from a $500 bicycle to a $5000 bicycle is so minor that there's no payback.  Unless you're actually a professional racer it's just a penis extension.


Wrong.  Just wrong.  Maybe there is marginal improvement in the $1500 range to the $5000 range, but for fast riders and racers (not just professionals, but club racers and triathletes) a good bike with that marginal gain can mean the difference between winning and losing.  A $500 bike from a bike shop will be a heavy, lug of a mountain bike.   You couldn't buy a road bike for less than $1000 new...$1200 at least to get one that is race-able.  Hell, a set of Aero wheels alone can cost $2000.
 
2013-10-20 07:40:52 PM  

Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.


...and the arrest, too, was conveniently generated.

The real point, though, is why are we taking sides in an argument generated by a video that only shows part of what happened? Is this what we've come to, that we don't really care about anything other than the chance to argue pointlessly with each other?
 
2013-10-20 07:43:04 PM  

FormlessOne: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

...and the arrest, too, was conveniently generated.

The real point, though, is why are we taking sides in an argument generated by a video that only shows part of what happened? Is this what we've come to, that we don't really care about anything other than the chance to argue pointlessly with each other?


Yes.
 
2013-10-20 07:45:12 PM  

FormlessOne: Is this what we've come to, that we don't really care about anything other than the chance to argue pointlessly with each other?


Come to?  From where?
 
2013-10-20 07:52:04 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

DERP! DERPA-DERPA-DOO! Idiot.


Well, you sure told me.
 
2013-10-20 07:55:12 PM  
so charges for the bike fairy who kicked the truck?
 
2013-10-20 07:56:48 PM  

skyshooter: I'd say these bicyclists handled themselves a FARK of a lot better than the motorcyclists in NY did.


This is the one thing that everyone should be able to agree on here. Regardless of who started it, it didn't end nearly as badly.
 
2013-10-20 08:03:14 PM  

Kyosuke: Ed Grubermann: Kyosuke: Conveniently edited for the bicyclist's convenience.

DERP! DERPA-DERPA-DOO! Idiot.

Well, you sure told me.


I dunno, man, he did say derpa-derpa-do, he kinda got you on that one.

*eyeroll*
 
2013-10-20 08:17:45 PM  
One thing I learned from my lesbian friends is that they don't like to be called bikes.
 
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