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(New Musical Express)   Brian May says that Sacha Baron Cohen was the wrong choice to play Freddie Mercury   (nme.com) divider line 121
    More: Obvious, Sacha Baron Cohen, Freddie, Freddie Mercury, Roger Taylor, biopic, Daniel Radcliffe, Les Miserables, Ben Whishaw  
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2013-10-20 09:56:47 AM  
I think that was a huge mistake and he really would've nailed it.
 
2013-10-20 10:55:32 AM  
We didn't want it to be a joke.

Yeah, that pretty-much is what I would expect the reason to be.

NewportBarGuy: I think that was a huge mistake and he really would've nailed it.


I'm not so sure.  He can't help but be Sacha Baron Cohen.  I think that would have come across, no matter what.  It always does.  He's made such a career of being Sacha Baron Cohen, he really shouldn't be surprised when people think he's really good at being Sacha Baron Cohen and will probably make any role he does, at least in part, about Sacha Baron Cohen.
 
2013-10-20 11:18:28 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm not so sure. He can't help but be Sacha Baron Cohen. I think that would have come across, no matter what. It always does. He's made such a career of being Sacha Baron Cohen, he really shouldn't be surprised when people think he's really good at being Sacha Baron Cohen and will probably make any role he does, at least in part, about Sacha Baron Cohen.


Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

He's always going to be Borat, but I get the feeling he has the intelligence to do the role properly. Would the public accept it? That's the gamble for Queen and the movie studio to make. Considering his body of work, I doubt I'd make that gamble either.
 
2013-10-20 11:25:36 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.


Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.

But I can't even imagine Sacha Baron Cohen being anything other than Sacha Baron Cohen.  Yeah - he would have been a dead ringer for Mercury, no doubt.  But I have no confidence that he would have been believable in any other way.

I'm also not at all sure of Radcliffe in that role, by the way.
 
2013-10-20 11:46:52 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm not so sure. He can't help but be Sacha Baron Cohen. I think that would have come across, no matter what. It always does. He's made such a career of being Sacha Baron Cohen, he really shouldn't be surprised when people think he's really good at being Sacha Baron Cohen and will probably make any role he does, at least in part, about Sacha Baron Cohen.


I said this from the beginning. I can't stand the guy and it would have been absurdly distracting to the movie had he been in it. Also, the mere mention of his name in a starring role makes people think it's a comedy because that's what he does. It just wasn't going to work.
 
2013-10-20 12:15:25 PM  
Put me down for being disappointed that Sacha won't be playing the part.  Sure, Sacha Baron Cohen would be a bit of a distraction, but so was Freddie Mercury.  They're both big, flamboyant personalities that thrive under pressure and attention, and I think that Sacha would have given the role the diligence and respect that it deserves.
 
2013-10-20 12:23:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm also not at all sure of Radcliffe in that role, by the way.


FTFA:   Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe was recently linked to the film but quickly denied rumours he could be playing Mercury, saying: "I am completely wrong for that part!"
 
2013-10-20 12:28:05 PM  
The only thing that bothered me about Sacha Baron Cohen in the role is that he's 6'3".

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2013-10-20 12:44:52 PM  

aimtastic: The only thing that bothered me about Sacha Baron Cohen in the role is that he's 6'3".

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The only thing that bothered me is that he's Sacha Baron Cohen.


Lor M. Ipsum: Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm also not at all sure of Radcliffe in that role, by the way.

FTFA:   Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe was recently linked to the film but quickly denied rumours he could be playing Mercury, saying: "I am completely wrong for that part!"


Oh - didn't read that far.
 
2013-10-20 01:12:40 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.



Bill Murray (Razor's Edge and Lost in Translation), and I suppose I could add Patton Oswalt in Big Fan, although nobody saw that.
 
2013-10-20 01:19:09 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I think that was a huge mistake and he really would've nailed it.


I was ONLY going to see the movie because Sacha Baron Cohen was going to play the part.
Now? MEH

Freddie was a CHARACTER.
He would have LOVED having Sasha play his part.
 
2013-10-20 01:20:04 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm not so sure. He can't help but be Sacha Baron Cohen. I think that would have come across, no matter what. It always does. He's made such a career of being Sacha Baron Cohen, he really shouldn't be surprised when people think he's really good at being Sacha Baron Cohen and will probably make any role he does, at least in part, about Sacha Baron Cohen.

Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

He's always going to be Borat, but I get the feeling he has the intelligence to do the role properly. Would the public accept it? That's the gamble for Queen and the movie studio to make. Considering his body of work, I doubt I'd make that gamble either.


every other movie that robin williams does is a series part and he is great in it.
 
2013-10-20 01:32:47 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.

But I can't even imagine Sacha Baron Cohen being anything other than Sacha Baron Cohen.  Yeah - he would have been a dead ringer for Mercury, no doubt.  But I have no confidence that he would have been believable in any other way.

I'm also not at all sure of Radcliffe in that role, by the way.


Tom hanks, sure, but also Robin Williams had a few impressive non-comedic roles.

Cohen is a very over the top performer. I think he would have made an excellent mercury.
 
2013-10-20 01:37:05 PM  
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I think this is the perfect role for Johnny Depp.
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2013-10-20 01:43:57 PM  
I think Adam Lambert would have been a great choice. He can sing and be flamboyant, but I have no idea if he can act.
 
2013-10-20 02:26:45 PM  
Have they explored the possibility of a completely computer-generated Freddie?
 
2013-10-20 02:28:39 PM  
Damn I was really looking forward to this movie. I thought SBC was perfect for it.
 
2013-10-20 02:34:23 PM  
I assume the people saying he would have been good are just going on his appearance, and yes, he would have looked more like Freddy than a lot of people. But there's more to acting than that.
 
2013-10-20 02:35:53 PM  

GreenAdder: Have they explored the possibility of a completely computer-generated Freddie?


Mee-sa paid mee-sa dues
Time after time
Mee-sa done mee-sa sentence
But committed no crime
And bad mistakes
Mee-sa made a few
and mee-sa had mee-sa share of sand
Kicked in mee-sa face
But mee-sa come through
And mee-sa need to go on and on and on and on...
 
2013-10-20 02:36:24 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I assume the people saying he would have been good are just going on his appearance, and yes, he would have looked more like Freddy than a lot of people. But there's more to acting than that.


Have you seen interviews with sasha in real life and compared that to one of his man roles?
the man has chops.

you dont think that he is like that in real life and not acting in his movies, do you? LOL
 
2013-10-20 02:37:47 PM  
The good thing about Cohen playing Freddie Mercury is more about body language. Borat and that other thing were full of full body acting.
 
2013-10-20 02:40:24 PM  
plus singing is not really a requirement for this role.
how many singers have a 4 octave range and can pull off what he did?

acting, acting, acting

the magic of computers can insert the sound these days pretty flawlessly
a bunch of voice training would help any actor get the expressions right


yes johnny depp would fit too

/acting much more important than singing unless the movie is going to be one long music video.
 
2013-10-20 02:40:53 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey. His own personality came through, even in that role.


Yeah, The Truman Show is not the best "Jim Carrey can do serious roles" example, but Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind sure is.

Brian May can be wax poetic about whatever the fark he wants to, but the fact of the matter is him and the rest of the band are obviously more comfortable with putting forth a more sanitized, family friendly film, and the fact they apparently scared off the initial lead is enough for me to have no desire to watch the final product.
 
2013-10-20 02:42:35 PM  

simplicimus: I think Adam Lambert would have been a great choice. He can sing and be flamboyant, but I have no idea if he can act.


Nothing that a few months of acting school wouldn't fix. He's got the drama part nailed down.
 
2013-10-20 02:44:27 PM  
wasn't he taking singing lessons for the roll too?  seems like he really wanted it and i believe he would have gave it justice.  just like others have said, Freddy would have wanted SBC to play the roll and he fits it with his flamboyancy.  i'll probably still see it but would wondering how it could have been.
 
2013-10-20 02:45:08 PM  

rjakobi: simplicimus: I think Adam Lambert would have been a great choice. He can sing and be flamboyant, but I have no idea if he can act.

Nothing that a few months of acting school wouldn't fix. He's got the drama part nailed down.


IIRC, he turned down the role.
 
2013-10-20 02:47:35 PM  
This movie NEEDS to be made. Damnit.
 
2013-10-20 02:47:41 PM  
As a Sacha Baron Cohen fan, I thought Brian May brought up valid points in a very tactful manner. Mr. Cohen is a strong personality, and it might be difficult to suspend the feeling that you're watching him, instead of watching Freddie Mercury.

Here's some under-appreciated Brian May, with Eddie Van Halen: StarFleet

/his son's favorite show back in the day
 
2013-10-20 02:54:16 PM  

FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.


Bill Murray (Razor's Edge and Lost in Translation), and I suppose I could add Patton Oswalt in Big Fan, although nobody saw that.


BRYAN FARKING CRANSTON!

/unless we're limiting to the Big Screen
 
2013-10-20 02:54:43 PM  
Tom Hanks as Freddie and Samuel Becket as scriptwriter
/"Waiting For Diagnosis"
 
2013-10-20 03:01:56 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.


Bill Murray (Razor's Edge and Lost in Translation), and I suppose I could add Patton Oswalt in Big Fan, although nobody saw that.

BRYAN FARKING CRANSTON!

/unless we're limiting to the Big Screen


Off the top of my head.

1. Robert Downy Jr.  - Chapman
2.Marlon Wayans- Requiem for a Dream
3. Ben Stiller - Permanent Midnight
4. Adam Sandler - Punchdrunk Love
5. Steve Carrel - Little Miss Sunshine
 
2013-10-20 03:02:52 PM  
SBC would've been perfect for the role. He's proven that he can sing, that was evident in Sweeney Todd.
 
2013-10-20 03:06:08 PM  
Prior to this I heard that the "creative differences" were that SBC wanted a down and dirty Freddie Mercury and  Brian/Roger want to focus more on the positive aspects (ie:homosexuality played down).
 
2013-10-20 03:11:38 PM  
in which he makes outstanding performances, but they're very much Sacha Baron Cohen performances.

I'd say that in Hugo, it's very much not an "SBC" performance. It's the role that made me realise how talented he was, because he could be fitted into a role that was written and be an actor in an ensemble rather than playing a part he created for himself.

Things like this are a great argument for shortening copyright to 20 years. You can't tell the history of someone from a generation ago, because the songs can't be played without infringing copyright, so pretty much no-one can make a Freddie Mercury film except May and Taylor.

Either that, or you do the Janis Joplin 30 Rock treatment.
 
2013-10-20 03:13:04 PM  

Lee451: Prior to this I heard that the "creative differences" were that SBC wanted a down and dirty Freddie Mercury and  Brian/Roger want to focus more on the positive aspects (ie:homosexuality played down).


Yep. The band wants it to be PG rated, lol.
 
2013-10-20 03:18:29 PM  

aimtastic: The only thing that bothered me about Sacha Baron Cohen in the role is that he's 6'3".

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Freddie Mercury always seemed much taller than he really was, though.

I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977. It was the "A Day at the Races" tour. To be honest, the only reason I'm posting in this thread is so I could announce that I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977. It was the tour where Freddie wore his white jumpsuit the first time. It made quite an impression (heh) on this high school girl.

Did I mention I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977?
 
2013-10-20 03:21:59 PM  
You know who could nail it?  Sean Astin.
 
2013-10-20 03:24:31 PM  

Lsherm: You know who could nail it?  Sean Astin.


You know who else could nail it? Bob Vila.
 
2013-10-20 03:27:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm not so sure.  He can't help but be Sacha Baron Cohen.  I think that would have come across, no matter what.  It always does.  He's made such a career of being Sacha Baron Cohen, he really shouldn't be surprised when people think he's really good at being Sacha Baron Cohen and will probably make any role he does, at least in part, about Sacha Baron Cohen.


This.

Looks wise, he could have easily pulled it off, the problem is every part he plays always have that element of him in them and that element isn't right for Freddy.
 
2013-10-20 03:31:38 PM  
Brian May would be wrong
 
2013-10-20 03:36:03 PM  

FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.


Bill Murray (Razor's Edge and Lost in Translation), and I suppose I could add Patton Oswalt in Big Fan, although nobody saw that.


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2013-10-20 03:37:56 PM  

farkeruk: in which he makes outstanding performances, but they're very much Sacha Baron Cohen performances.

I'd say that in Hugo, it's very much not an "SBC" performance. It's the role that made me realise how talented he was, because he could be fitted into a role that was written and be an actor in an ensemble rather than playing a part he created for himself.



I wasn't sure if it was SBC in Hugo or someone who *looked like* SBC for about the first third of the film.  Great acting.
 
2013-10-20 03:40:17 PM  

BafflerMeal: FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: Yeah, I get that. I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show? Maybe.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, to me, was still Jim Carrey.  His own personality came through, even in that role.  The only actor I've seen make the transition successfully was Tom Hanks.


Bill Murray (Razor's Edge and Lost in Translation), and I suppose I could add Patton Oswalt in Big Fan, although nobody saw that.

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one hour photo was awesome
but was thinking of the apple movie too
 
2013-10-20 03:43:59 PM  
I've always been of the opinion that a solid comedic actor (not just a comedian) has an easier time of crossing into drama than a dramatic actor has crossing into comedy.  IMO comedy is a built on the foundation of all the other emotions and one cannot act well on this without understanding the base.
 
2013-10-20 03:47:04 PM  
I honestly thought this was the role Sacha was born to play.  This was potentially his one iconic movie.  I was really excited to see this film with him as Mercury, and I thought he would do an amazing job.  I don't know who it's going to be now.  It's a shame.
 
2013-10-20 03:55:36 PM  

Mr. Scott: I honestly thought this was the role Sacha was born to play.  This was potentially his one iconic movie.  I was really excited to see this film with him as Mercury, and I thought he would do an amazing job.  I don't know who it's going to be now.  It's a shame.


Completely agree. I went from "Shut up and take my money" to "Meh".
 
2013-10-20 04:05:45 PM  

MadAzza: aimtastic: The only thing that bothered me about Sacha Baron Cohen in the role is that he's 6'3".

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Freddie Mercury always seemed much taller than he really was, though.

I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977. It was the "A Day at the Races" tour. To be honest, the only reason I'm posting in this thread is so I could announce that I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977. It was the tour where Freddie wore his white jumpsuit the first time. It made quite an impression (heh) on this high school girl.

Did I mention I saw Queen live in Seattle in 1977?


I saw them in Dallas on the Jazz tour. They had beautiful curvaceous girls riding bikes around the stage during Fat Bottomed Girls. Great show, and so glad I saw them before they went disco and sucked.
 
2013-10-20 04:10:11 PM  
The thing about Brian May is that he's out in the woods, up to no good, trying make friends with the badgers.
 
2013-10-20 04:19:31 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I just had a real feeling that he could have pulled it off and, with make-up, he'd look exactly like him. I'm trying to think of a comedian doing a serious role. Think of Jim Carrey in the Truman Show?


Carrey totally sold me as a 'serious' actor in that role, and I, too, went into that thinking he would fail hard.
 
2013-10-20 04:20:50 PM  

italie: Mr. Scott: I honestly thought this was the role Sacha was born to play.  This was potentially his one iconic movie.  I was really excited to see this film with him as Mercury, and I thought he would do an amazing job.  I don't know who it's going to be now.  It's a shame.

Completely agree. I went from "Shut up and take my money" to "Meh".


THIS

Esp after reading that the problem was DIRECTION that the movie should go.
FFS, you want a disney movie? and think that is the best way to showcase the legacy of Queen and the Legendary Freddie Mercury?

Telling and Showing everything would have made this movie a HIT. R rated and it would have been a SMASH.

G rating? ROFL
why would I bother?
 
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