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(Talking Points Memo)   FreedomWorks CEO Matt Kibbe: "The government shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis were a brilliant Republican strategy"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 149
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2013-10-19 08:28:17 PM  
Oh, so now we're back to brilliant Republican strategy, not Obama Shutdown?
 
2013-10-19 08:38:26 PM  
Fox News said the Democrats shut down the government. So confused now.
 
2013-10-19 09:22:39 PM  
So the plan was to show that they're irresponsible? really? I think we kind of already knew republicans were irresponsible.
 
2013-10-19 09:30:06 PM  
Dude's Twatter avatar is Jerry Garcia? Seriously?
 
2013-10-19 09:58:09 PM  
Keep it up. Try it again in January.

Every three months if you have to. We'll see how well this strategy works in the long run.
 
2013-10-19 10:17:25 PM  

Shostie: Keep it up. Try it again in January.

Every three months if you have to. We'll see how well this strategy works in the long run.


No. We  cannot let them do this again. The world is already not too happy with the US dollar as the reserve currency; doing this shutdown again basically means it's done.
 
2013-10-19 10:42:01 PM  
When does their money run out?
 
2013-10-19 11:25:04 PM  

NewportBarGuy: When does their money run out?


Not soon enough.
 
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2013-10-19 11:43:29 PM  
Well, it could be possible.  That's some serious scheming, but, you know, it could happen.  Right?
 
2013-10-19 11:52:02 PM  
Republicans are doing this all wrong.  Usually in the animal kingdom the malnourished eat their young, they don't let their young eat them.
 
2013-10-19 11:56:36 PM  
 The American public polls as increasingly conservative."

lolwut?
 
2013-10-19 11:57:23 PM  
"Also, we're broke and surviving on a million-dollar line of credit.  But we're totally fans of fiscal conservatism!"
 
2013-10-20 12:20:03 AM  

syrynxx: "Also, we're broke and surviving on a million-dollar line of credit.  But we're totally fans of fiscal conservatism!"


That IS fiscal conservatism: let someone else take the risk while they reap the rewards
 
2013-10-20 12:25:28 AM  
"Republicans convinced some of their opponents that they are crazy and irresponsible, without actually being crazy... "

If they aren't crazy, this is one long con. And they are much better actors than I gave them credit for.
 
2013-10-20 12:28:56 AM  
144 votes to default. That is a number that I am never going to get over. 144 morons who should be voted out for if nothing else... that vote. I don't care what party you vote for or ideology you favor, that should enrage you.

144 nihilistic fools
 
2013-10-20 12:28:59 AM  
"The Kamikaze is a brilliant strategy"

~Emperor Hirohito
 
2013-10-20 12:33:48 AM  
FTFA: "The American public polls as increasingly conservative"

You mean the national poll where Republicans didn't receive the majority of votes for the Presidency, Senate, and House of Representatives?
 
2013-10-20 12:40:04 AM  
Ahhh! It's weird sideburns dude again!
 
2013-10-20 12:49:16 AM  
That sad part is... They could pull off this narrative.

It's not the first time Americans decide to follow the lie than the truth.

Social Security and Medicare is now on the table.
 
2013-10-20 01:04:54 AM  
I, for one, welcome our Republican overlords who are only winning in their imaginary castles in the sky.
 
2013-10-20 01:14:40 AM  

shanrick: Ahhh! It's weird sideburns dude again!


Welcome to today's FreedomWorks thread. New and hopefully improved from yesterday's FreedomWorks thread.
 
2013-10-20 01:17:34 AM  
i1282.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-20 01:27:15 AM  
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-10-20 01:33:35 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Social Security and Medicare is now on the table.


Since when?
 
2013-10-20 01:38:04 AM  
Ah. He both looks AND sounds like a douchenozzle.
 
2013-10-20 01:45:09 AM  
#winning
 
2013-10-20 01:45:46 AM  
FreedomWorks CEO Matt Kibbe: "The government shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis were a brilliant Republican strategy" ........

.....for internal division, confusion and self-immolation.
 
2013-10-20 01:46:46 AM  
fabfunny.com
 
2013-10-20 01:48:09 AM  
FreedomWorks CEO?  So, a Karl Rove employee?
 
2013-10-20 01:52:21 AM  

Alphax: FreedomWorks CEO?  So, a Karl Rove employee?


No, this is the Dick Armey.
 
2013-10-20 01:53:46 AM  

Mentat: Alphax: FreedomWorks CEO?  So, a Karl Rove employee?

No, this is the Dick Armey.


Right, so employed by a different propagandist.  So noted.
 
2013-10-20 02:01:34 AM  
If their goal was to drive their party's approval rating into the toilet, then yes, it was brilliant.


Mentat: Alphax: FreedomWorks CEO?  So, a Karl Rove employee?

No, this is the Dick Armey.


Penis Navy.
 
2013-10-20 02:02:56 AM  

Alphax: FreedomWorks CEO?  So, a Karl Rove employee?


No. Rove hates FreedomWorks because they're competitors to his own money-sucking SuperPAC, Crossroads GPS.

FreedomWorks was founded with seed money from the Koch Bros and started by Dick Armey. They instigated the original Tea Party protests and capitalized on the 2010 elections to turn themselves into a SuperPAC. But after Armey found out that this guy Kibbe was using FreedomWorks to subsidize writing a book he tried to start an investor revolt and was ousted by Kibbe. All of the Kibbe articles we're seeing on Fark are publicity for his new book and his chance to latch onto bigger things as FreedomWorks is apparently in deep debt and out of donors.

The Republican money pond is drying up and the political consultants are fighting for new jobs.
 
2013-10-20 02:05:13 AM  
"Republicans convinced some of their opponents that they are crazy and irresponsible, without actually being crazy (though they were irresponsible, but that is the whole point)."

Ha Ha! We were only pretending to be crazy and irresponsible but really we were just being deliberately irresponsible?

LOL, U Troll us? Really?

"Look where we stand," Tyler Cowen, the author of the piece, wrote. "In real terms government spending has been falling.  Sequestration appears to be permanent, or it will be negotiated away by Republicans in return for preferred changes in tax and spending policy

Draconian across the board cuts that no sane person should want are now something to be desired and used as a negotiating chip?

This guy is bananas.
 
2013-10-20 02:05:31 AM  
None of this is inaccurate

"Look where we stand," Tyler Cowen, the author of the piece, wrote. "In real terms government spending has been falling.  Sequestration appears to be permanent, or it will be negotiated away by Republicans in return for preferred changes in tax and spending policy.  Leading Democratic intellectuals are talking about future fiscal bargains with no new taxes.  The American public polls as increasingly conservative. "
 
2013-10-20 02:06:50 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-10-20 02:09:48 AM  
Yeah....About as brilliant as sporting what appear to be actual burns on one's cheeks.
 
2013-10-20 02:10:45 AM  
I like your style, Republicans. Don't stop saying things.
 
2013-10-20 02:10:53 AM  
At least he didn't blame it on the dog.
 
2013-10-20 02:14:56 AM  
i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-10-20 02:16:45 AM  
The nice thing about this guy is that his weird side burns point directly to the spot where your fist should connect when you punch him in the face.

/If only all douchenozzles came with such clear directions.
//And his is a face made for punching.
 
2013-10-20 02:19:24 AM  
From the article quoted in this article:

With this sequence of events, combined with 2011, the Republicans convinced some of their opponents that they are crazy and irresponsible, without actually being crazy (though they were irresponsible, but that is the whole point)....

Someday, if the Democrats wanted to raise the exemption level for the payroll tax, and pull in a lot of new revenue, what kind of opposition could they expect?  Probably they will shy away from that battle altogether, for fear of another Ted Cruz filibuster.


Does anyone remember during the Bush era when conservative pundits praised his bullying and chest-beating antics as a kind of diplomatic genius, as it sent a message to America's enemies to fear our self-destructive loose cannon president?

This attempt to reclassify Tea Party economic murder-suicide threats as a form of political psychological warfare is giving me a serious case of 2004 deja vu. Stupid then, stupid now.
 
2013-10-20 02:22:06 AM  

b2theory: 144 votes to default. That is a number that I am never going to get over. 144 morons who should be voted out for if nothing else... that vote. I don't care what party you vote for or ideology you favor, that should enrage you.

144 nihilistic fools


Disgusting, right?  Vile... downright gross.
 
2013-10-20 02:22:20 AM  
I signed up for the Freedom Works email list, and it provides daily lols. It is possible to make a time line of shifting positions and blame during the shutdown. I hope to use the archived mails to prevent future Republicans.
 
2013-10-20 02:24:59 AM  
FTA: "Look where we stand," Tyler Cowen, the author of the piece, wrote. "In real terms government spending has been falling.  Sequestration appears to be permanent, or it will be negotiated away by Republicans in return for preferred changes in tax and spending policy.  Leading Democratic intellectuals are talking about future fiscal bargains with no new taxes.

I hate to say it, but he kinda has a point. The Republicans are so freakin' right-wing that the discussion has shifted far rightward of where it should be.

We should be talking about solving our unemployment problem through increased spending: stimulus packages and a focus on rebuilding our failing infrastructure. Instead the argument is between people saying we shouldn't cut back and people saying we should cut back an absurd amount, meaning that even when the democrats score a victory, it's on a compromise to cut back a little.

We should be talking about how the national debt isn't some world-destroying calamity, but a fairly minor problem a lot of other countries face (the UK, Canada and Japan all have higher debt-to-GDP ratios than us), and one that's best solved through a combination of reduced corporate subsidies, increases in some taxes, scaling back on military spending and attempting to grow the economy (and thus the amount of tax revenue) through Keynesian economics, along with the understanding that it's a long term problem that shouldn't be rushed. Instead the argument is between people who want to slash the government to the point where the economy would be even more damaged by that than by defaulting and people saying "OK, OK, we'll cut some things, just calm down!".

The GOP and the Tea Party are losing because everyone has realized that they're farking crazy. Conservatism is winning because people are still trying to negotiate with those extremist positions, meaning that the compromise that gets agreed upon is still right-wing.

/yes, Obama didn't negotiate over the debt ceiling for once.
//we need to act like that permanently instead of only when the GOP goes ultra-retarded in their demands.
 
2013-10-20 02:31:27 AM  
FTFA: "The American public polls as increasingly conservative."

LOL WUT?
 
2013-10-20 02:39:18 AM  

meat0918: FTFA: "The American public polls as increasingly conservative."

LOL WUT?


I don't know that is an entirely untrue statement, especially if you qualify that with "likely voters." Americans tend to self identify as "fiscally conservative."  The problem is they often answer that question without understanding what it means other than "don't admit to buying on credit."

What amazes me if that likely voters who identify as "fiscally conservative" on Federal issues will also vote in favor of bond issues for state and local ballots, but refuse to raise taxes directly.

Spending more money is not inherently "not fiscally conservative." What I think many voters mean is not spending money on things I don't like is "fiscally conservative."
 
2013-10-20 02:40:30 AM  
British General:  Wearing red and marching in a straight line was a great strategy during the Revolutionary War.
 
2013-10-20 02:40:45 AM  

DiarrheaVanFrank: b2theory: 144 votes to default. That is a number that I am never going to get over. 144 morons who should be voted out for if nothing else... that vote. I don't care what party you vote for or ideology you favor, that should enrage you.

144 nihilistic fools

Disgusting, right?  Vile... downright gross.


You magnificent bastard.
 
2013-10-20 02:42:50 AM  
If the repetition machines of Fox news and Talk Radio were to go silent, it is hard to imagine the Republicans would ever get more than 30% of the vote again.
They are brainwashing the people who consume that media.  I know personally how well it worked on me for years, I even denied it was possible at the time.  But it is true, the more you repeat something the more it sinks in.   Now when I tune in to talk radio I hear the cycle of repetition is about 4-10 minutes for some items and others are repeated every 2 minutes.  Listen to that for 3 hours and see how it affects your thinking.
 
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