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(Examiner)   Textbook publishers refuse to include creationism in science textbooks because "we're not in the business of publishing fiction." Naturally, this has pissed off some Christians   (examiner.com) divider line 589
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2013-10-19 06:01:22 PM

funnycatwallpapers.com

 
2013-10-19 06:02:55 PM
I went to a Baptist school.  Our textbooks were from Bob Jones University Press.  Oh, if only we had had real textbooks.
 
2013-10-19 06:04:58 PM
This made for great clearcom chatter as we are doing a 13 hour insane show for a Christian group right now.
 
2013-10-19 07:00:04 PM
It's a pretty farking sad state of affairs when  this is what qualifies for 'heroic.'
 
2013-10-19 07:19:49 PM

rooftop235: ... insane show for a Christian group...


Redundant.

/Flash the call light until they exorcise the 'com's demons (of which their are many.)
 
2013-10-19 07:27:00 PM
Christians can't be Christians unless they're righteously pissed at something.
 
2013-10-19 08:28:33 PM

Heliovdrake:


Well I see my work here is done
 
2013-10-19 08:31:28 PM
They are free to teach whatever they want in church or at home, but schools are for facts. Poison your kids with pseudo-science on your on time.
 
2013-10-19 08:42:56 PM
What exactly would the curriculum be in a textbook that includes creationism? PS: Also God might have done it?
 
2013-10-19 08:46:05 PM
Texas education is the fictional thing here.
 
2013-10-19 08:49:27 PM
Let's see if the history book publishers follow suit.
 
2013-10-19 08:58:35 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I went to a Baptist school.  Our textbooks were from Bob Jones University Press.  Oh, if only we had had real textbooks.




Wow, really? You turned out as badly as they could have feared, except for being gay.

Wait, are you gay? I can never keep track
 
2013-10-19 08:59:34 PM

Mugato: What exactly would the curriculum be in a textbook that includes creationism? PS: Also God might have done it?


The Bible.
 
2013-10-19 09:14:23 PM
As a resident of Texas, with 3 kids, I say....

fark YAH YA STUPID farkING SCIENCE HATING farkWADS!!!
 
2013-10-19 09:23:24 PM
What does the answer key in the teacher's edition of a creationist science textbook look like?
 
2013-10-19 09:27:13 PM

Heliovdrake: [funnycatwallpapers.com image 680x453]



Took the word right out of my mouth.
 
2013-10-19 09:32:11 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: What does the answer key in the teacher's edition of a creationist science textbook look like?


The answer key was put there by Satan to test our faith. Literally & figuratively.
 
2013-10-19 09:34:45 PM
What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:

i.imgur.com

Astronomy:
i.imgur.com

Biology:
i.imgur.com

And can't forget the lab manual:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-19 09:42:57 PM

opaqueluminosity: What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:

[i.imgur.com image 520x545]

Astronomy:
[i.imgur.com image 520x390]

Biology:
[i.imgur.com image 640x827]

And can't forget the lab manual:
[i.imgur.com image 640x818]


Oh Their God that's a lot of stupid. I really hope those aren't real.
 
2013-10-19 09:55:32 PM
Suck it, Republicans.

Yeah, I went there
 
2013-10-19 10:06:01 PM

baka-san: As a resident of Texas, with 3 kids, I say....

fark YAH YA STUPID farkING SCIENCE HATING farkWADS!!!


Texas is probably not out of the water yet. This is good news for every state that has been affected by Texas' buying power, but Texas rules still dictate the content of the books has to include pseudoscience.

It'll be interesting to see if any of these tiny home-school publishers get a big purchase from Texas.
 
2013-10-19 10:10:22 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Suck it, Republicans.

Yeah, I went there


It was really only a matter of time.

And not that far of a leap.
 
2013-10-19 10:12:40 PM

opaqueluminosity: And can't forget the lab manual:


"God is saying..."

The Bible II:  Leprechaun In The Hood
 
2013-10-19 10:20:50 PM
What a slanted article. They could have done without calling the word of God "Superstition" if they really wanted to get their point across.
 
2013-10-19 10:21:15 PM

opaqueluminosity: What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:

[i.imgur.com image 520x545]

Astronomy:
[i.imgur.com image 520x390]

Biology:
[i.imgur.com image 640x827]

And can't forget the lab manual:
[i.imgur.com image 640x818]


Those cannot be real. Those are photoshops, right?

And as for the publisher, can I get an oh Snap?
 
2013-10-19 10:22:42 PM

opaqueluminosity: What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:


Lightening?
 
2013-10-19 10:23:00 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: It's a pretty farking sad state of affairs when  this is what qualifies for 'heroic.'


It's a pretty sad state of affairs when this has to be done at all.
 
2013-10-19 10:23:08 PM
Hey Mexico? Forget the Alamo. You can have Texas back now.
 
2013-10-19 10:24:18 PM
You don't attack something unless it's a threat.

They're afraid kids will compare evolution with creationism, and realize what a load of crap evolution is.

My pastor said that even BEFORE he became a Christian he didn't believe in evolution.  Said it sounded too absurd.

It's pretty sad when someone only wants one viewpoint to be discussed.  Theocracy nothing...seems the state religion is atheism.

Madalyn Murray O'Hair would be proud....
 
2013-10-19 10:24:21 PM

jaylectricity: What a slanted article. They could have done without calling the word of God "Superstition" if they really wanted to get their point across.


If the shoe fits......
 
2013-10-19 10:24:34 PM

opaqueluminosity: What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:

[i.imgur.com image 520x545]

Astronomy:
[i.imgur.com image 520x390]

Biology:
[i.imgur.com image 640x827]

And can't forget the lab manual:
[i.imgur.com image 640x818]


Those pictures make me physically ill.
 
2013-10-19 10:25:03 PM
Obligatory: The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous and ridiculous. Is it, perchance, cherished by persons who should know better? Then their folly should be brought out into the light of day, and exhibited there in all its hideousness until they flee from it, hiding their heads in shame.
True enough, even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases, provided only he does not try to inflict them upon other men by force. He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge. Did Darrow, in the course of his dreadful bombardment of Bryan, drop a few shells, incidentally, into measurably cleaner camps? Then let the garrisons of those camps look to their defenses. They are free to shoot back. But they can't disarm their enemy.
- H.L. Mencken
 
2013-10-19 10:25:32 PM
So, no unicorn anatomy classes & dissection labs then?
 
2013-10-19 10:26:09 PM
Chris Smither: Evolution isn't something you believe in. It's something you understand or you don't.
 
2013-10-19 10:26:39 PM

Miss Alexandra: Theocracy nothing...seems the state religion is atheism.


Wait, you're serious?

Most Christians don't even believe Creationism is real. It's a phillosophy shared by a core group of politically influential dominionist churches, and popularized and politicized through their media connections.
 
2013-10-19 10:27:12 PM

Miss Alexandra: You don't attack something unless it's a threat.

They're afraid kids will compare evolution with creationism, and realize what a load of crap evolution is.

My pastor said that even BEFORE he became a Christian he didn't believe in evolution.  Said it sounded too absurd.

It's pretty sad when someone only wants one viewpoint to be discussed.  Theocracy nothing...seems the state religion is atheism.

Madalyn Murray O'Hair would be proud....


The link in your profile is to a well spoken racist website. You're either a master troll or... no, I prefer not to consider otherwise.
 
2013-10-19 10:27:23 PM

hardinparamedic: opaqueluminosity: What creationist textbooks may look like:

Physics:

[i.imgur.com image 520x545]

Astronomy:
[i.imgur.com image 520x390]

Biology:
[i.imgur.com image 640x827]

And can't forget the lab manual:
[i.imgur.com image 640x818]

Those cannot be real. Those are photoshops, right?

And as for the publisher, can I get an oh Snap?


Nope, these are real.

Image source and article

Publisher's website

...Students also will develop critical thinking skills through the application of scientific knowledge in activities and brief writing projects...
 
2013-10-19 10:27:36 PM

giveitarest: Chris Smither: Evolution isn't something you believe in. It's something you understand or you don't.


people.virginia.edu
 
2013-10-19 10:27:42 PM
You would prefer they refer to it as what?  Mythology?  The alleged word of God?  Bullshiat?
 
2013-10-19 10:28:13 PM

jaylectricity: What a slanted article. They could have done without calling the word of God "Superstition" if they really wanted to get their point across.


No, that is the point.
 
2013-10-19 10:30:27 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: The link in your profile is to a well spoken racist website. You're either a master troll or... no, I prefer not to consider otherwise.


For those of you wondering what my friend Occam is talking about, Miss Alexandria is a self-proclamed "Race Realist", who advertises American Renessance in her profile.

Since Christian dominionist phillosophy goes hand in hand with white supremacy, I doubt she's a troll.
 
2013-10-19 10:31:00 PM

Miss Alexandra: You don't attack something unless it's a threat.

They're afraid kids will compare evolution with creationism, and realize what a load of crap evolution is.

My pastor said that even BEFORE he became a Christian he didn't believe in evolution.  Said it sounded too absurd.

It's pretty sad when someone only wants one viewpoint to be discussed.  Theocracy nothing...seems the state religion is atheism.

Madalyn Murray O'Hair would be proud....




Are you auditioning to be the new Bevets?
 
2013-10-19 10:31:19 PM

jaylectricity: What a slanted article. They could have done without calling the word of God "Superstition" if they really wanted to get their point across.


fark that. It is time to go to civil war againt these pieces of shiat.
 
2013-10-19 10:31:25 PM
Well, thing is, it's referred to as the THEORY of evolution.  Never been proven.

You can argue that creation hasn't been proven.  So--if that's the case (and that's a big IF), then why not present ALL viewpoints?  Otherwise you come across as narrow-minded....

I hope I'm making sense.  This Mountain Dew throwback doesn't seem to have a lot of kick...
 
2013-10-19 10:31:37 PM

Miss Alexandra: My pastor said that even BEFORE he became a Christian he didn't believe in evolution.  Said it sounded too absurd.


Ask him how Noah got every single species of animal, including the ones we haven't even discovered yet on the ark. He'll tell you that he only had to get one of every "type" of animal. One breed of bird, one kind of dog, etc. Then ask him how we ended up with so many different species.

Evolution is nothing more than natural selection favoring certain mutations over others and it's been observed scientifically. The Catholic Church believes in evolution and they're nuts about other things. Why can't you and your pastor?
 
2013-10-19 10:32:22 PM

Miss Alexandra: Well, thing is, it's referred to as the THEORY of evolution. Never been proven.


You don't know the difference between a scientific theory and a theory as used in common vernacular, do you?
 
2013-10-19 10:32:47 PM
Whenever I go into a bookstore, I always move a bible over to the fiction section.
 
2013-10-19 10:32:48 PM

hardinparamedic: Most Christians don't even believe Creationism is real. It's a phillosophy shared by a core group of politically influential dominionist churches, and popularized and politicized through their media connections.


About 45% of Americans are Young Earth Creationists.
 
2013-10-19 10:32:55 PM
In a victory for science education and the children of Texas, publishers are refusing to include creationism in science textbooks despite fierce pressure from conservative Christians.


/When you start publishing bibles with science chapters in it, i will listen to your griping. Until then, eat a bowl of hot buttered dicks you mindless sheep.
 
2013-10-19 10:33:00 PM
As technical support/software support for a large textbook company, I'm happily getting a kick...
 
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