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2013-10-19 05:02:29 PM
Matt Smith in a wig..
 
2013-10-19 05:19:56 PM
4th and 10th Doctors FTW.
 
2013-10-19 06:36:11 PM
Interesting. It told me nothing about what was coming, but still succeeds in getting me hyped to see the episode.
 
2013-10-19 07:35:45 PM

SilentStrider: Interesting. It told me nothing about what was coming, but still succeeds in getting me hyped to see the episode.


Same here...I am ridiculously excited for it even though I have no idea what's going on.

Yeah, the wig is noticeable...but I still love it.
 
2013-10-19 07:38:01 PM

bborchar: SilentStrider: Interesting. It told me nothing about what was coming, but still succeeds in getting me hyped to see the episode.

Same here...I am ridiculously excited for it even though I have no idea what's going on.

Yeah, the wig is noticeable...but I still love it.


Same. Actually gave me chills.

The ad, not the wig.
 
2013-10-19 07:59:38 PM
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Is it me or does 8 in that picture bear only a passing resembling to Paul McGann circa 1996? I wonder if they just didn't have any good footage of him in profile and had to hire a not so convincing double.
 
2013-10-19 08:02:37 PM
Dr Who and I are the same age, and I'm not even a Time Lord!

(waiting impatiently for my next body transition)
 
2013-10-19 08:24:38 PM
 
2013-10-19 10:15:45 PM
I'm excited about this, but I'm starting to see why JNT destroyed the sonic.  It's getting aggravating watching Smith swing it around like a wand every few seconds.
 
2013-10-19 11:54:56 PM

Snapper Carr: [img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

Is it me or does 8 in that picture bear only a passing resembling to Paul McGann circa 1996? I wonder if they just didn't have any good footage of him in profile and had to hire a not so convincing double.


I'm hoping it's the circa 2013 Paul McGann in a bad wig and it means he might appear in the special.

After all, he does have that spiffy new costume and it would be shame to let it go to waste...
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2013-10-20 12:09:48 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I'm excited about this, but I'm starting to see why JNT destroyed the sonic.  It's getting aggravating watching Smith swing it around like a wand every few seconds.


Tennant used it every ten seconds as well. For everything from popping champagne bottles to hacking into computer systems. The BBC is supposed to be free from commercial pressures but I wonder how much their commercial arm has 'suggested' to the producers that it would be really nice to have a toy they can sell, and one that changes with every new Doctor...
 
2013-10-20 01:00:02 AM
Did not spot McCoy anywhere.

/Rank him near the bottom if you want
//Still among the five 'darkest' Doctors alongside Pertwee, Eccleston, and (C) Baker
 
2013-10-20 01:24:20 AM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Did not spot McCoy anywhere.

/Rank him near the bottom if you want
//Still among the five 'darkest' Doctors alongside Pertwee, Eccleston, and (C) Baker


Among five and you named only 3 others, only 4 counting the 8th?

Any way just came to say 1 minute long teaser with no actual footage from the 50th annv. episode... fine i'm still going to watch it with joy.
 
2013-10-20 01:26:37 AM

Southernmost Farker: Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Did not spot McCoy anywhere.

/Rank him near the bottom if you want
//Still among the five 'darkest' Doctors alongside Pertwee, Eccleston, and (C) Baker

Among five and you named only 3 others, only 4 counting the 8th?

Any way just came to say 1 minute long teaser with no actual footage from the 50th annv. episode... fine i'm still going to watch it with joy.


/I meant besides 5th?
 
2013-10-20 01:42:29 AM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Did not spot McCoy anywhere.

/Rank him near the bottom if you want
//Still among the five 'darkest' Doctors alongside Pertwee, Eccleston, and (C) Baker


He's at the front with 6, 9, 8, and 5. He's on the left side, falling forward, the umbrella probably the most noticeable thing.
 
2013-10-20 01:45:40 AM

Southernmost Farker: Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Did not spot McCoy anywhere.

/Rank him near the bottom if you want
//Still among the five 'darkest' Doctors alongside Pertwee, Eccleston, and (C) Baker

Among five and you named only 3 others, only 4 counting the 8th?

Any way just came to say 1 minute long teaser with no actual footage from the 50th annv. episode... fine i'm still going to watch it with joy.


To round it out? I'd say Hartnell.
 
2013-10-20 05:10:31 AM

kermit the forg: Snapper Carr: [img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

Is it me or does 8 in that picture bear only a passing resembling to Paul McGann circa 1996? I wonder if they just didn't have any good footage of him in profile and had to hire a not so convincing double.

I'm hoping it's the circa 2013 Paul McGann in a bad wig and it means he might appear in the special.

After all, he does have that spiffy new costume and it would be shame to let it go to waste...
[static.squarespace.com image 299x400]


I am very much hoping for a return of the Eighth, it would be great to see him get more screen time and they gave away the fact that 10 and Rose are coming back so easily that they must be holding something back.
 
2013-10-20 05:22:11 AM
The graffiti that I assumed would said Bad Wolf says No More.

Who is it facing Tennant and holding something? appears to be wearing some kind of sash?
 
2013-10-20 06:05:24 AM
Now that was pretty disappointingly lame compared to fanmade trailers/teasers.
 
2013-10-20 06:27:19 AM

Type40: The graffiti that I assumed would said Bad Wolf says No More.

Who is it facing Tennant and holding something? appears to be wearing some kind of sash?


At first, everyone thought it was the Brig, but common consensus (sp?) on the fan forum says it's the Hurt Doctor. There's a pic of him in almost exactly the same outfit (taken during filming). Gallifrey Base is having a blast dissecting (the fans)/tearing the video apart (those who don't like it).
 
2013-10-20 07:43:40 AM

baltimoreblonde: Type40: The graffiti that I assumed would said Bad Wolf says No More.

Who is it facing Tennant and holding something? appears to be wearing some kind of sash?

At first, everyone thought it was the Brig, but common consensus (sp?) on the fan forum says it's the Hurt Doctor. There's a pic of him in almost exactly the same outfit (taken during filming). Gallifrey Base is having a blast dissecting (the fans)/tearing the video apart (those who don't like it).


Yeah, some of the "fans" there hate practically everything. Some have even said they are boycotting the movie because they haven't seen any evidence of classic Doctors in it...despite that we haven't seen evidence of practically anything at all to this point. It's ridiculous.
 
2013-10-20 10:34:32 AM

Flint Ironstag: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I'm excited about this, but I'm starting to see why JNT destroyed the sonic.  It's getting aggravating watching Smith swing it around like a wand every few seconds.

Tennant used it every ten seconds as well. For everything from popping champagne bottles to hacking into computer systems. The BBC is supposed to be free from commercial pressures but I wonder how much their commercial arm has 'suggested' to the producers that it would be really nice to have a toy they can sell, and one that changes with every new Doctor...


You're right, of course, but, with Smith, it has become really aggravating.  The final few seconds of the clip ... why is he waving it around?  Why is he pointing it at things?  It distracts from what's going on, and it is quickly becoming the crutch that caused it to be destroyed in The Visitation.
 
2013-10-20 10:54:02 AM

bborchar: Yeah, some of the "fans" there hate practically everything.


I really, really don't understand this mindset.  Sure, Matt Smith isn't my favorite Doctor, nor is Tennant.  But I don't rage on and on about how they destroyed my childhood or ruined the franchise or anything :/  I think it's just very poor socialization, so that our mild annoyances become these wanker shut-ins' life-ruining disasters.
 
2013-10-20 11:27:00 AM
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/I know it's free, I'd STILL pay to see it
 
2013-10-20 12:05:59 PM
bborchar: Yeah, some of the "fans" there [at a Doctor Who trufan site]  hate practically everything.

This is true of all media going back to the Epic of Gilgamesh. There's the fan, the trufan, and the hater. The hater would wipe the floor with the others in a trivia contest about the thing he hates on.
 
2013-10-20 12:14:04 PM
I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.
 
2013-10-20 12:58:28 PM
No love for Peter Cushing?

www.tvbomb.co.uk
 
2013-10-20 01:11:13 PM

MasterSFV: No love for Peter Cushing?

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He's the "Pete's World" Doctor. He even teamed up with Donna's grandfather (there on the far left) at an earlier point in time.
 
2013-10-20 01:17:25 PM

djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.


In all seriousness, that's a fairly good description of the Doctor (even before Moffat started writing him) which may account for Moffat's popularity.

I've enjoyed the new series, some episodes much (much) more than others, but honestly I don't have a good sense for which ones he wrote or had responsibility for, so I don't know if I'm one of his fans or haters. I just thought it was interesting that you describe him that way.
 
2013-10-20 02:33:14 PM

Flint Ironstag: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I'm excited about this, but I'm starting to see why JNT destroyed the sonic.  It's getting aggravating watching Smith swing it around like a wand every few seconds.

Tennant used it every ten seconds as well. For everything from popping champagne bottles to hacking into computer systems. The BBC is supposed to be free from commercial pressures but I wonder how much their commercial arm has 'suggested' to the producers that it would be really nice to have a toy they can sell, and one that changes with every new Doctor...


Doctor Who has always had quite substantial quantities of merch attached to it.  I think they've gone with the "sonic fixes everything" purely because it does turn it into a magic wand.  Kids understand a magic wand, they wouldn't understand a 900 year old super genius giving 15min of exposition about how he was going to beat the snot out of the monster of the week and then proceeding to beat the snot out the monster of the week.

It also allows for the single episode format, you can just blast your way to victory and roll credits.
 
2013-10-20 02:49:20 PM

djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.


Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.
 
2013-10-20 03:52:34 PM

Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.


I always love how people think "Moffat has let success go to his head and now he's a tyrant who won't let anyone touch his stuff!  He thinks he's always right!"...but then you hear the guy speak and he's anything but.  In any case, a lot of people don't even agree that the quality of his writing has gone down...I have always enjoyed it, and I can usually spot his episodes immediately.  "Asylum of the Daleks" was great, and so was "The Name of the Doctor".  Series 6 may have been a bit strained because of the amount of arc and exposition in it, but they fixed that with Series 7.  I haven't had any problem with continuity or rationality...it all makes sense to me.
 
2013-10-20 04:50:48 PM
Flint Ironstag
whizbangthedirtfarmer:
I'm excited about this, but I'm starting to see why JNT destroyed the sonic. It's getting aggravating watching Smith swing it around like a wand every few seconds.

Tennant used it every ten seconds as well. For everything from popping champagne bottles to hacking into computer systems.


Popping champagne bottles and hacking into computer systems beats just pointlessly waving it around because Doctor ADHD has nothing better to do with his hands.

/ also beats using it as an all-purpose scanner and reading information from a not existing display
// River Song at least stole a Star Trek Tricorder for doing this
 
2013-10-20 06:27:56 PM

Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.


Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.
 
2013-10-20 07:02:45 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.


This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.
 
2013-10-20 07:07:27 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.


The thing many people don't realise is that in the UK the head writer is not the "showrunner" in the way most US series have showrunner/head writers. There are BBC producers for Doctor Who who are Moffatts bosses. He does not run the show, he is "just" the head writer. He gets all the publicity but he is not ultimately in charge.

Two previous producers were "fired" after the production fell behind schedule/over budget, which is the real reason we had half seasons per year. The BBC wanted a series per year. The producers screwed up.

IMHO Moffat is a fantastic writer, his Coupling is right up with Fawlty Towers and deserves more acclaim. Things like the Doctors clothing continuity error that actually turned out to be a Doctor from the future were great touches. But so many things like the unexplained staircase from Amy's house were never addressed.
 
2013-10-20 07:19:44 PM

bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.


stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg
 
2013-10-20 07:21:33 PM

Flint Ironstag: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

The thing many people don't realise is that in the UK the head writer is not the "showrunner" in the way most US series have showrunner/head writers. There are BBC producers for Doctor Who who are Moffatts bosses. He does not run the show, he is "just" the head writer. He gets all the publicity but he is not ultimately in charge.

Two previous producers were "fired" after the production fell behind schedule/over budget, which is the real reason we had half seasons per year. The BBC wanted a series per year. The producers screwed up.

IMHO Moffat is a fantastic writer, his Coupling is right up with Fawlty Towers and deserves more acclaim. Things like the Doctors clothing continuity error that actually turned out to be a Doctor from the future were great touches. But so many t ...


He's a fantastic writer.  Whatever you want to call him, though, he's not a terribly good head writer, then.  He allows pretty shiatty premises through the gates (as the ones I mentioned as well as "defeat the Cybermen--with love!) and so on.
 
2013-10-20 07:22:23 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg


No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.
 
2013-10-20 07:33:38 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Whatever you want to call him, though, he's not a terribly good head writer, then.  He allows pretty shiatty premises through the gates (as the ones I mentioned as well as "defeat the Cybermen--with love!) and so on.


I have to agree. His episodes during the RTD era, Empty Child/Doctor Dances, Blink, Girl In The Fireplace etc, were some of the best DW stories ever. But even as a DW fan there is so much stuff in the last few years that I just don't know what the hell they were about or if they were resolved. Things like the Van Gough Tardis exploding, the extra stairs etc.

I think a big problem is DW is half a "Sci FI" show and half a fantasy show, with many stories resolved with pure fairy tale methods, like Amy rebooting the universe because she remembered the Doctor.
Both can be great but it can IMHO jar when you think you're in a scifi story and then suddenly a fairy tale ending happens. It comes across as nothing more than a deus ex machina ending if the resolution does not match the set up. We accept the fairy tale ending to Sleeping Beauty because it was obviously a fairy tale story from the start. Had Sleeping Beauty started out with some evil scientist and a chemically engineered virus then we would expect a sci fi ending. Waking her up with a kiss "because love" just wouldn't work.
 
2013-10-20 07:55:02 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!


You should watch The Aztecs, primarily because it proves you wrong right from the very outset of the show, but also because William Hartnell is so goddamn charming in it. (youtube)

/ while praising the virtues of cocaine
// they don't call him The Doctor for nothing
 
2013-10-20 08:07:11 PM

chascarrillo: whizbangthedirtfarmer: let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!

You should watch The Aztecs, primarily because it proves you wrong right from the very outset of the show, but also because William Hartnell is so goddamn charming in it. (youtube)

/ while praising the virtues of cocaine
// they don't call him The Doctor for nothing


It is probably just me, but Gaiman's script was so clogged with silly ideas that it suffered greatly from Moffat's ideas. Even so, the lowest point of the reboot was Smith kissing Jenny and then making an erection joke.
 
2013-10-20 08:08:24 PM

bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg

No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.


I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.
 
2013-10-20 08:34:46 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg

No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.

I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.


Neither do I, but what doesn't work to you works completely fine for me.  I dislike RTD immensely, but I don't turn every thread into a gripe session over him.
 
2013-10-20 08:41:55 PM

bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

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No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.

I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.

Neither do I, but what doesn't work to you works completely fine for me.  I dislike RTD immensely, but I don't turn every thread into a gripe session over him.


Unfortunately for you, you're in the minority of people who think Moffat's doing an excellent job.  It's hard to find many fans/critics who have enjoyed the most recent series; hell, even DWM struggles finding good things to say.
 
2013-10-20 09:29:17 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg

No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.

I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.

Neither do I, but what doesn't work to you works completely fine for me.  I dislike RTD immensely, but I don't turn every thread into a gripe session over him.

Unfortunately for you, you're in the minority of people who think Moffat's doing an excellent job.  It's hard to find many fans/critics who have enjoyed the most recent series; hell, even DWM struggles finding good things to say.


Why is it unfortunate that I enjoy it?  I don't care what other people think...I just have fun with it.  It's only a tv show after all.
 
2013-10-20 10:11:17 PM

bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg

No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.

I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.

Neither do I, but what doesn't work to you works completely fine for me.  I dislike RTD immensely, but I don't turn every thread into a gripe session over him.

Unfortunately for you, you're in the minority of people who think Moffat's doing an excellent job.  It's hard to find many fans/critics who have enjoyed the most recent series; hell, even DWM struggles finding good things to say.

Why is it unfortunate that I enjoy it? ...


I see your reading skills match your critical viewing skills.  It's unfortunate that you enjoy the series, and want everyone else to be uncritical about it.  It's not going to happen, as most people agree the past series was almost complete shiat.
 
2013-10-20 11:04:29 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: bborchar: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Fast Moon: djRykoSuave: I can't be the only one who thinks Moffat is undisciplined, writes himself into corners which he then jumps out of with no rational basis, and relies on gimmicks.

He's very creative, but he needs a god damn editor. When Davis was at the helm, he was a producer--keeping the talent from drawing all over the walls.

Moffat seems to have gone the way of Shyamalan and Lucas.  He wrote some really good stuff like "The Empty Child" and "Blink" in the beginning, but the acclaim he got for those episodes feels like it got to his head, to the point that now he just throws a bunch of ideas together without much thought for continuity or rationality, and won't dare allow an editor to touch his masterpieces.

Moffat was at his best when he had people editing his stuff.  Now, he has all of these grand ideas--let's mimic Skyfall!  two episodes arcs are too long!  every episode a movie poster! let's take my good creations and drive them into the ground!  let's tell Gaiman to make the Doctor flirty!--and they show that he's the sort of writer who REALLY needs someone to keep his ideas in check.  Just someone to say, hey man, that's really not too great of an idea.

This is why I hate Doctor Who threads.

stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg

No, I absolutely love Doctor Who...I just hate the constant negativity to absolutely everything.

I love the show, too, but it doesn't mean I give it a free pass when it doesn't work.

Neither do I, but what doesn't work to you works completely fine for me.  I dislike RTD immensely, but I don't turn every thread into a gripe session over him.

Unfortunately for you, you're in the minority of people who think Moffat's doing an excellent job.  It's hard to find many fans/critics who have enjoyed the most recent series; hell, even DWM struggles finding good things to say.

Why is it unfortunate that I ...


No, I have no problem with people being critical about it.  I have a problem with people bringing it up in every frickin' Doctor Who conversation when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.  I don't start biatching about RTD simply because the thread says "Doctor Who" in the title.
 
2013-10-21 12:55:58 AM

Type40: Who is it facing Tennant and holding something? appears to be wearing some kind of sash?


Pretty sure it's Jamie.  Note the sash:

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2013-10-21 08:48:34 AM

pseudowho: Type40: Who is it facing Tennant and holding something? appears to be wearing some kind of sash?

Pretty sure it's Jamie.  Note the sash:


But the figure is wearing pants. It could be Hurt's Doctor, since it was confirmed that he is in the trailer. His Doctor also wears a bandolier.
 
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