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2013-10-19 05:59:34 PM  
Hey, it's not their fault they order three big macks and two large fries.......I mean, they got the diet coke, doc!
 
2013-10-19 06:09:23 PM  
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2013-10-19 06:15:17 PM  
They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.
 
2013-10-19 06:24:18 PM  

syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.


Telling them is fine, just don;t give them substandard medical care for having it, because you see them as automatically non-compliant for getting it.
 
2013-10-19 07:21:45 PM  

syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.


The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.

Shame doesn't tend to be a great motivator.  If anything, it might discourage people from seeing that doctor again or encourage them to avoid medical care altogether.

Think of those awful anti-smoking ads they used to run, or the ridiculous anti-marijuana ads.  Taking an aggressive holier-than-thou approach turns people off.
 
2013-10-19 07:31:14 PM  
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Child abuse.
 
2013-10-19 08:33:10 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.

The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.

Shame doesn't tend to be a great motivator.  If anything, it might discourage people from seeing that doctor again or encourage them to avoid medical care altogether.

Think of those awful anti-smoking ads they used to run, or the ridiculous anti-marijuana ads.  Taking an aggressive holier-than-thou approach turns people off.


US Military has been using shame since their creation. It works pretty good for them.
 
2013-10-19 09:29:34 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.

The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.

Shame doesn't tend to be a great motivator.  If anything, it might discourage people from seeing that doctor again or encourage them to avoid medical care altogether.

Think of those awful anti-smoking ads they used to run, or the ridiculous anti-marijuana ads.  Taking an aggressive holier-than-thou approach turns people off.


Exactly. I mean, look how rampant smoking is today.
 
2013-10-19 09:31:59 PM  
Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added to many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby
 
2013-10-19 09:33:10 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.

The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.

Shame doesn't tend to be a great motivator.  If anything, it might discourage people from seeing that doctor again or encourage them to avoid medical care altogether.

Think of those awful anti-smoking ads they used to run, or the ridiculous anti-marijuana ads.  Taking an aggressive holier-than-thou approach turns people off.


We call this avoidance.  Regardless of how you break the news to them, they will just find another physician willing to discuss the benefits of having the extra weight.  Shaming, to some, makes an excellent motivator as it hits you right in the face without mincing words.  Some people actually appreciate the honesty.
 
2013-10-19 09:35:12 PM  
Love the repetition in this article.

Headline:  Don't blame obese patients for being fat, doctors told

Sub-header: Doctors trying to tackle soaring rates of obesity should not blame patients for being fat, according to the health watchdog.

Caption: Doctors should not blame obese patients for being fat, NICE has suggested

First sentence: Doctors trying to tackle soaring rates of obesity should not blame patients for being fat, according to draft guidance.

Gee, I wonder what this article is about...
 
2013-10-19 09:35:34 PM  
Anyone who deliberately misconstrues doctor's advice as "shaming" is beyond help and is just wasting everyone's time.
 
2013-10-19 09:36:07 PM  

Apos: Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added too many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby


FTFY, contributor
 
2013-10-19 09:36:46 PM  

shanrick: [www.bachelorkitchenblog.com image 400x300]


sweet n low has hfcs in it?
 
2013-10-19 09:36:47 PM  

basemetal: Hey, it's not their fault they order three big macks and two large fries.......I mean, they got the diet coke, doc!


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2013-10-19 09:36:52 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.

The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.


This. Had a relative who hated going to the doctor because he felt that unless he was a bag of skin stretched over a skeleton, the doctor who badger the sh*t out of him without mercy and make him feel like a bloated super-fatass for simply being 5 lbs over weight. And being depressed like that can be a guaranteed temptation to just binge eat to feel better. Doctors like that need to be shot in the face for the damage they cause to people.

Doctors really do need to stop berating people over every little flaw and maybe try to give their patients a better alternative than trying to scare them into an extremist diet that makes a prisoner's bread & water look like a Thanksgiving meal.
 
2013-10-19 09:37:34 PM  

syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.


I think doctors need to start bullying people who get cancer.  HAHA YOU GOT SUCKY GENES!
 
2013-10-19 09:38:07 PM  

cman: T

US Military has been using shame since their creation. It works pretty good for them.


Society is not the Military, and THANK FARKING GOD for that.
 
2013-10-19 09:38:17 PM  

clowncar on fire: Apos: Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added too many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby

FTFY, contributor


Thanks!
 
2013-10-19 09:40:45 PM  
Ain't no hate like hating on fat people. They ain't protected like them darkies and queers is. I'd hate on criminals and such, but shucks, them I'm not special, everyone hates on them!

clowncar on fire: Some people actually appreciate the honesty.


Honesty, sure. Being treated as less than human, that's a different thing all together.

If only there was a word for people who work in the clinic to remain civil as possible yet objective while discussing a person's health.

Oh, wait....
 
2013-10-19 09:41:10 PM  
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Looks like Mitch was wrong, we have found another disease you can get yelled at for having.
 
2013-10-19 09:41:42 PM  
img.fark.net

This kid is biting his donut then rotating it. If you think he's making a mess with the powdered sugar, give it a few minutes. Soon he'll be covered with lemon filling.
 
2013-10-19 09:42:02 PM  
Don't tell me I have depression, Doc. It might depress me.
 
2013-10-19 09:42:16 PM  
I'm completely convinced that mocking and harassing overweight people is just the right medicine to make those worthless, disgusting slobs drop the pounds.  Unfortunately, for those doing the mocking, there seems to be a high correlation with becoming grotesquely obese later in life.  And the people being made fun of don't seem to get much skinnier either.  But I'm convinced it works.  You just have to give it time.  Eventually we all die and then think about how much weight we lose.
 
2013-10-19 09:42:36 PM  
You don't "get fat".

You earn fat.
 
2013-10-19 09:43:46 PM  

Apos: clowncar on fire: Apos: Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added too many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby

FTFY, contributor

Thanks!


Dad taught college level English, just sharing the ghosts of grammatical Nazis past
 
2013-10-19 09:44:17 PM  
I've solved this problem by going to a 300 pound doctor.  He never mentions my weight, ever.
 
2013-10-19 09:44:35 PM  
Shaming heffalumps is the only thing that lifts me out of my depression.
 
2013-10-19 09:45:06 PM  

baconbeard: Anyone who deliberately misconstrues doctor's advice as "shaming" is beyond help and is just wasting everyone's time.


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Agrees.
 
2013-10-19 09:46:37 PM  
It's too much work to try and help people make lifestyle changes. It's easier to shame them and make fun of them behind their backs.
 
2013-10-19 09:46:48 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: syrynxx: They should also probably avoid telling cancer patients that they have cancer, because finding out you have cancer is somewhat depressing.

The directives aren't to not tell overweight people that they're overweight, it's to do it in a way that encourages them to make lifestyle changes to correct the situation instead of making them feel like shiat for getting fat in the first place.

Shame doesn't tend to be a great motivator.  If anything, it might discourage people from seeing that doctor again or encourage them to avoid medical care altogether.

Think of those awful anti-smoking ads they used to run, or the ridiculous anti-marijuana ads.  Taking an aggressive holier-than-thou approach turns people off.


But how do you tell someone "You're overweight, you need to go on a diet," if using words like "overweight," "obese," are considered shaming, and advising someone that they need to take aggressive steps to change their lifestyle is seen as bullying or judgmental?
 
2013-10-19 09:48:04 PM  
Teh Fark Fat Hates Starts......Now!
 
2013-10-19 09:48:36 PM  

clowncar on fire: Apos: clowncar on fire: Apos: Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added too many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby

FTFY, contributor

Thanks!

Dad taught college level English, just sharing the ghosts of grammatical Nazis past


Heh...This doesn't come close to grammar Nazism in my estimation, but duly noted.
 
2013-10-19 09:48:57 PM  
The shaming has got to stop. Next thing you know, we'll be shaming child molesters and convicted rapists.
 
2013-10-19 09:49:57 PM  
MrEricSir:

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Looks like Mitch was wrong, we have found another disease you can get yelled at for having.

Lupus?

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2013-10-19 09:50:28 PM  

baconbeard: The shaming has got to stop. Next thing you know, we'll be shaming child molesters and convicted rapists.


Stop being such a bully!!!
 
2013-10-19 09:50:45 PM  

rvesco: I've solved this problem by going to a 300 pound doctor.  He never mentions my weight, ever.


yes, butt those sausage fingers of his have your rectal exam locked on target and he's going in dry.
 
2013-10-19 09:50:58 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: [img.fark.net image 620x387]

This kid is biting his donut then rotating it. If you think he's making a mess with the powdered sugar, give it a few minutes. Soon he'll be covered with lemon filling.


That's because Yellow is a fruit, and fruit don't belong in no donuts.
 
2013-10-19 09:51:01 PM  

MrEricSir: [img5.imageshack.us image 289x372]

Looks like Mitch was wrong, we have found another disease you can get yelled at for having.


Being fat isn't a disease, it's a choice people make.

CSB:
Whenever I go to my optometrist, he very subtly shames me. He's required to check my blood pressure, pressure behind my eye, etc., in order to check for glaucoma. He'll very quietly point out that my resting heart rate is too fast, or that I've been wearing my contacts too long, etc. I count on him to give me that reality check, because no one else is qualified to. And I always make changes to my lifestyle to work on the problems.
 
2013-10-19 09:52:04 PM  

cman: US Military has been using shame since their creation. It works pretty good for them.


mediatoilets.files.wordpress.com
Disagrees
 
2013-10-19 09:53:01 PM  
So "obese" should now be replaced with....what? "Unfettered Girth Syndrome"?

PC run amok. Good freakin' grief.
 
2013-10-19 09:53:03 PM  

Apos: clowncar on fire: Apos: clowncar on fire: Apos: Doctors ordered to be nice to people who have inadvertently added too many calories to their diet on a consistent basis


FTFY, subby

FTFY, contributor

Thanks!

Dad taught college level English, just sharing the ghosts of grammatical Nazis past

Heh...This doesn't come close to grammar Nazism in my estimation, but duly noted.


Due+ly Just where the fark does that "e" go to?  "lephant" grave yard?
 
2013-10-19 09:54:47 PM  
All I know is, if this utter and complete aversion to taking any sort of personal responsibility whatsoever continues, I'll be running the place pretty soon.
 
2013-10-19 09:55:32 PM  
People on Fark making fun of fat people is like a Japanese businessman making fun of short people.
 
2013-10-19 09:55:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: But how do you tell someone "You're overweight, you need to go on a diet," if using words like "overweight," "obese," are considered shaming, and advising someone that they need to take aggressive steps to change their lifestyle is seen as bullying or judgmental?


The doctors should program their scales to scream "OW! OW! OW! OHMYGODGETOFFME!!!"
 
2013-10-19 09:57:43 PM  

Abox: cman: US Military has been using shame since their creation. It works pretty good for them.

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Disagrees


Fail.  Nice try though.

Military doesn't shame you so much as break down then rebuild.  Once in a great while- not unlike the civilian world-- a crazy gets through.
 
2013-10-19 09:58:27 PM  
I regard one of my greatest accomplishments as seeing to it that my daughter entered adolescence and young adulthood at her ideal weight.

She would have been fat too, had we allowed it to happen.

So, for sparing you all yet another land-whale , you're welcome, World!
 
2013-10-19 09:59:06 PM  

MyrnaMinkoff: People on Fark making fun of fat people is like a Japanese businessman making fun of short people.


Well arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics... Even if you win you are still retarded.
 
2013-10-19 09:59:43 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Whenever I go to my optometrist, he very subtly shames me. He's required to check my blood pressure, pressure behind my eye, etc., in order to check for glaucoma. He'll very quietly point out that my resting heart rate is too fast, or that I've been wearing my contacts too long, etc. I count on him to give me that reality check, because no one else is qualified to. And I always make changes to my lifestyle to work on the problems.


You could see an actual physician, you know? Optometrists have no more training in hypertension than construction workers.
 
2013-10-19 10:00:07 PM  
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