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(ESPN FC)   Liverpool kick off the weekend against an erratic Newcastle, Manchester United faces a stingy Southampton defense, Tottenham travels out to a tricky Aston Villa, and lots of midtable and relegation scrapping: It's your weekend soccer thread   (espnfc.com) divider line 267
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2013-10-20 11:21:28 AM
Villa turned the heat up all of a sudden.
 
2013-10-20 11:22:29 AM

Gosling: Villa turned the heat up all of a sudden.


That's Villa this season. They've sure got a lot of energy.
 
2013-10-20 11:25:20 AM
The only game of the day and I've spent the first 25 minutes yapping away to you guys :-)
 
2013-10-20 11:27:44 AM
About half a second more to set that up and Weimann might have had that. Pocket collapsed and he had to shoot.
 
2013-10-20 11:29:45 AM
Afternoon everyone.
 
2013-10-20 11:31:11 AM
Welp, not gonna be a clean sheet today either.
 
2013-10-20 11:32:09 AM
Flare thrown it seems.
 
2013-10-20 11:32:41 AM
Worst Pass Ever.
 
2013-10-20 11:32:42 AM
Those really suck as a keeper...
 
2013-10-20 11:32:49 AM
Fluky goal
 
2013-10-20 11:33:27 AM
Oh, classy, Spurs douchebag. Throwing a goddamn flare.
 
2013-10-20 11:33:27 AM
Predictor site still borked for me.

Nice crossgoal from Andros. Making a hell of a name for himself lately.
 
2013-10-20 11:34:08 AM
Terrorist act
 
2013-10-20 11:35:18 AM

Princip's Sandwich: HaywoodJablonski: 689908: I was thinking of compiling a checklist of things Moyes does wrong most games. Then I thought about the things he does well, things that I like about him. I liked him at Everton, he seemed quite honest and dependable and he did a really good job. I wasn't entirely for his appointment, but United didn't have many options. Mourinho is the antithesis of everything United stands for. Pep (sensibly) chose Bayern, why would Klopp leave Dortmund for United, De Boer will probably only leave Ajax for Barca. I can't really think of anyone else I'd have wanted.

So there were certain elements of Moyes that made sense. Now, I'm trying to think of things he's done so far that make me like or admire him. Nothing.

I'll give him time, but only because I'll give anyone time.

I think all the coaches you mentioned would have trouble with that talent. If nothing else, Fergie deserves extra credit for the magic act he pulled off last season

Changing managers after spending so long with the same man is bound to cause a drop in form. The players all knew what Fergie wanted out of them. It'll take time to get used to Moyes' demands.


I agree and would add until he retired everyone knew that Fergie was the one person who mattered.  If you did he wanted you to, you'd get your time.  If you didn't, you'd sit or get shipped out.  With a new manager, perhaps there is less certainty about where the power really lays.  That's the tough part of the transition.

It was pretty easy for Moyes to establish control at Everton.  At Manchester United, it will be more difficult.
 
2013-10-20 11:35:44 AM
Both Spurs and Villa are going to be in massive trouble for that flare hitting the linesman.

If they can trace it back to the thrower he will be watching Spurs on TV from now on.
 
2013-10-20 11:35:44 AM
He hit the assistant with the smoke bomb. On the one hand, great aim. On the other hand, real classy douchebag. Enjoy your jail time. Spurs might get a hell of a fine for that.
 
2013-10-20 11:37:07 AM
Charlie Adam School of Shooting there.
 
2013-10-20 11:37:24 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Terrorist act


At a major soccer ground, you chuck a flare, it might as well be. There's a reason there's so much security at soccer stadiums: specifically to catch guys that do that kind of shiat. They will find the guy and he's going to be lucky to be allowed to set foot in a stadium anywhere in England, let alone Villa Park, ever again.
 
2013-10-20 11:39:16 AM

689908: I was thinking of compiling a checklist of things Moyes does wrong most games. Then I thought about the things he does well, things that I like about him. I liked him at Everton, he seemed quite honest and dependable and he did a really good job. I wasn't entirely for his appointment, but United didn't have many options. Mourinho is the antithesis of everything United stands for. Pep (sensibly) chose Bayern, why would Klopp leave Dortmund for United, De Boer will probably only leave Ajax for Barca. I can't really think of anyone else I'd have wanted.

So there were certain elements of Moyes that made sense. Now, I'm trying to think of things he's done so far that make me like or admire him. Nothing.

I'll give him time, but only because I'll give anyone time.


As a competitor, I've called Fergie a whole lot of foul and unrepeatable names, but that's only because his teams have consistently been tough to beat. He's well known as a dressing room motivator, instilling his teams with confidence and pushing them to always give their full effort to every game. Even at his advanced age he was full of fire and fury. He might protect his players to a fault in front of the cameras, then rail on them mercilessly behind closed doors.

Moyes just isn't like that. He's got a temper in him, but it's early and he doesn't want to lose the team. By comparison with Ferguson, he's analytical. For the existing team, with all those veterans, it's going to feel like the pressure is off. They've still got tons of quality, but Moyes isn't pushing them the way Fergie did. We'll see if the players step up.
 
2013-10-20 11:39:18 AM
I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life
 
2013-10-20 11:41:33 AM

Gosling: HaywoodJablonski: Terrorist act

At a major soccer ground, you chuck a flare, it might as well be. There's a reason there's so much security at soccer stadiums: specifically to catch guys that do that kind of shiat. They will find the guy and he's going to be lucky to be allowed to set foot in a stadium anywhere in England, let alone Villa Park, ever again.


As it should be. Otherwise you get stuff like Dida's incident, where fans started throwing bottles and flares onto the field, hitting the man in the shoulder and giving him first-degree burns.
 
2013-10-20 11:43:11 AM

Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life


Flares? Oh, yeah. Flares show up in soccer stadiums all the time (though not all stadiums allow them). Often they're a major part of the supporter groups' tifo displays. The thing is, though, they are supposed to be for display purposes, not for throwing purposes.
 
2013-10-20 11:45:04 AM
Of all the neutral teams, I think I enjoy watching Villa the most. With the exception of the 3-1 beating they laid on us to start the season, I've enjoyed watching them every time.
 
2013-10-20 11:47:30 AM
Damn that was close to 2-0. Really nice save.
 
2013-10-20 11:48:05 AM
It just hit me how much Guzan looks like Doctor Evil.
 
2013-10-20 11:50:32 AM

Princip's Sandwich: It just hit me how much Guzan looks like Doctor Evil.


He's got a bald cat that he stashes in the back of the net for good luck.
 
2013-10-20 11:50:56 AM

Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life


For Premier League games its not that hard any more. The days of pat downs before you can go into the stadium have been over for a number of years. It would be easy to smuggle in an entire bottle of wine under a coat.
 
2013-10-20 11:54:35 AM
Word on the wire is the guy that threw the smoke bomb is being dealt with by security.
 
2013-10-20 12:06:21 PM

Norfolking Chance: Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life

For Premier League games its not that hard any more. The days of pat downs before you can go into the stadium have been over for a number of years. It would be easy to smuggle in an entire bottle of wine under a coat.


Wow, last time I went to a Columbus Crew game here in the states I got a complimentary prostate exam.
 
2013-10-20 12:10:04 PM

Mr_H: Norfolking Chance: Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life

For Premier League games its not that hard any more. The days of pat downs before you can go into the stadium have been over for a number of years. It would be easy to smuggle in an entire bottle of wine under a coat.

Wow, last time I went to a Columbus Crew game here in the states I got a complimentary prostate exam.


The only stadiums i have been to recently is Carrow Road (no history at all of crowd trouble) and Wembly (for a rugby match so again no corwd trouble expected) so you might want to take that with a grain of salt. Non of them have been Millwall vs anyone games.
 
2013-10-20 12:15:45 PM

Mr_H: Norfolking Chance: Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life

For Premier League games its not that hard any more. The days of pat downs before you can go into the stadium have been over for a number of years. It would be easy to smuggle in an entire bottle of wine under a coat.

Wow, last time I went to a Columbus Crew game here in the states I got a complimentary prostate exam.


And that was by a stranger in the parking lot.
 
2013-10-20 12:16:03 PM
He got hit in the chest and he's clutching his face?
 
2013-10-20 12:16:11 PM
Nice flop there Walker. That elbow didn't even reach his neck.
 
2013-10-20 12:18:03 PM
Benteke alert.
 
2013-10-20 12:18:25 PM
Bentekkers!
 
2013-10-20 12:19:49 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Bentekkers!


HERE COME DA MAN
 
2013-10-20 12:22:09 PM
Aw, so close. Just too high for Benteke.
 
2013-10-20 12:23:42 PM
Villa goal is imminent
 
2013-10-20 12:23:48 PM
Villa just notched up a few levels. Spurs getting swamped right now.
 
2013-10-20 12:26:32 PM
Villa's gonna give Benteke all the touches they possibly can.
 
2013-10-20 12:27:11 PM
...that.... that, ummm... that complicates matters slightly.
 
2013-10-20 12:27:15 PM
I mean Spuds. Spuds goal is imminent
 
2013-10-20 12:27:32 PM
Poor Villa. Every time they look like they're dominating, they concede. 0-2 really isn't fair here.
 
2013-10-20 12:27:57 PM
Perfect in play.
 
2013-10-20 12:28:01 PM
That was impressive...a bit against the run of play.  Was thinking Villa might level it...not now.
 
2013-10-20 12:29:21 PM

HaywoodJablonski: I mean Spuds. Spuds goal is imminent


LOL
 
2013-10-20 12:29:52 PM

Mr_H: Norfolking Chance: Mr_H: I'm somewhat surprised they managed to smuggle a smoke bomb that size into the stadium.

/ban'em for life

For Premier League games its not that hard any more. The days of pat downs before you can go into the stadium have been over for a number of years. It would be easy to smuggle in an entire bottle of wine under a coat.

Wow, last time I went to a Columbus Crew game here in the states I got a complimentary prostate exam.


'That Sir, is a very nice prostate'.
 
2013-10-20 12:30:34 PM

Princip's Sandwich: Poor Villa. Every time they look like they're dominating, they concede. 0-2 really isn't fair here.


Well, them's the breaks. Only stat that matters is the score. We either put it in the net or we don't. All we can do is put it in the net or shut up.
 
2013-10-20 12:35:44 PM
Aston Villa can score one and I'll be very content with that scoreline.
 
2013-10-20 12:37:21 PM

Mr_H: Aston Villa can score one and I'll be very content with that scoreline.


So would I. Perfect would be really nice here.
 
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