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2013-10-19 08:30:19 AM
S games on consoles were mediocre? Color me surprised.
 
2013-10-19 08:38:17 AM
The real reason half those games/companies failed is because they were made for Playstation.

Oops.
 
2013-10-19 08:40:50 AM

J. Frank Parnell: FPS games on consoles were mediocre? Color me surprised.


Fixed that for myself, and made note of yet another filter quirk.
 
2013-10-19 08:43:00 AM
I liked Rage.  I would have liked it more if it didn't feel like the second half of the game was missing and the final mission wasn't such crap.

I'm guessing when they hit 3 discs for a console version, someone at Bethesda panicked and told them to wrap it up.
 
2013-10-19 08:51:58 AM
Another reason you might remember Heavenly Sword was it was one of the first games reviewed by Yahtzee. That's the only reason I've heard of it.
 
2013-10-19 08:55:03 AM
A better article would have been a list of games you're still thinking about after a decade. Seriously, video games are way worse than other media in the "what have you done for me lately" generation.
 
2013-10-19 08:55:49 AM

Glitchwerks: I liked Rage.  I would have liked it more if it didn't feel like the second half of the game was missing and the final mission wasn't such crap.


Rage was crap. Endless repeats of Hallway, arena, hallway, arena, hallway, arena. etc... so badly done you could just look at a space and know you were going to get attacked when you dropped down that wall you can't jump back up, (did they learn nothing from DOOM 3?); generic, boring enemies with only one voice actor per faction; characters that have only one interaction and then just stand there stupidly for the rest of the game, and farking boss monsters? What is this, 1995? Like DOOM3, Rage was a tech demo with the thinnest skin of a game stretched over it. And let's not even talk about the shiatty environment management. shiat just popping in and out of existence as you turn? Really?
 
2013-10-19 08:59:40 AM
RAGE
Why you might have remembered it:

Well not because it was played by Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad, because no one watched that show.
 
2013-10-19 09:02:08 AM
How about games that sadly never saw the light of day? There was a game that almost made me buy a PS3 that was essentially Pikmin with zombies. It was called Posession, and it looked like it would have ruled.
 
2013-10-19 09:11:59 AM
My copy of Lost Odyssey is still sitting on my shelf.  It seemed like a cool idea at the time but unskippable intros and outros for every single combat got annoying fast.  I remember the commercial receiving a fair bit of airtime at the time (it was the one that used "White Rabbit").
 
2013-10-19 09:17:16 AM
tl;dr version:

Generic first person shooters and launch titles tend to be generic, forgettable.

Mentalpatient87: How about games that sadly never saw the light of day? There was a game that almost made me buy a PS3 that was essentially Pikmin with zombies. It was called Posession, and it looked like it would have ruled.


Starcraft: Ghost and True Fantasy Live Online would top that list for pretty much anybody. There was also that one MMOFPS that focused solely on PvE but I can't remember the name.

My personal disappoint is Kingdom Under Fire II. While technically not cancelled, it  will never come out.
 
2013-10-19 09:18:17 AM

Ed Grubermann: Rage was crap. Endless repeats of Hallway, arena, hallway, arena, hallway, arena. etc... so badly done you could just look at a space and know you were going to get attacked when you dropped down that wall you can't jump back up, (did they learn nothing from DOOM 3?); generic, boring enemies with only one voice actor per faction; characters that have only one interaction and then just stand there stupidly for the rest of the game, and farking boss monsters? What is this, 1995? Like DOOM3, Rage was a tech demo with the thinnest skin of a game stretched over it. And let's not even talk about the shiatty environment management. shiat just popping in and out of existence as you turn? Really?


I'm not saying it's a great game.  It definitely had its share of problems, many of which you rightly pointed out.

Still, I liked it.
 
2013-10-19 09:19:22 AM

Romanes Eunt Domus: My copy of Lost Odyssey is still sitting on my shelf.  It seemed like a cool idea at the time but unskippable intros and outros for every single combat got annoying fast.  I remember the commercial receiving a fair bit of airtime at the time (it was the one that used "White Rabbit").


It's amazing how the idea of "yeah, that's cute, but it's gonna get in my farking way after the thousandth time" is entirely lost on game developers. I'm still trying to figure out why the menus on the Xbox 360 are so sluggish and clunky.
 
2013-10-19 09:23:23 AM
Heavenly sword was quite good. It's a shame it was shunted into a list like this. It had one or two minor annoyances and was too short, but other than that it was a blast.
 
2013-10-19 09:25:15 AM
I've never owned any console and have never heard of any of these except, maybe, the Ghostbusters one. Headline could use an adjective.

/Not an elitist, just too cheap to buy a console
 
2013-10-19 09:30:54 AM

Glitchwerks: Ed Grubermann: Rage was crap. Endless repeats of Hallway, arena, hallway, arena, hallway, arena. etc... so badly done you could just look at a space and know you were going to get attacked when you dropped down that wall you can't jump back up, (did they learn nothing from DOOM 3?); generic, boring enemies with only one voice actor per faction; characters that have only one interaction and then just stand there stupidly for the rest of the game, and farking boss monsters? What is this, 1995? Like DOOM3, Rage was a tech demo with the thinnest skin of a game stretched over it. And let's not even talk about the shiatty environment management. shiat just popping in and out of existence as you turn? Really?

I'm not saying it's a great game.  It definitely had its share of problems, many of which you rightly pointed out.

Still, I liked it.


Same here, one of my all time favourites. They need to do another one for next-gen, it would be mind blowing.
 
2013-10-19 09:40:46 AM
I didn't have one game worth buying a current gen console.  It is the worst generation by far.  I own nearly every console up to this generation - I hope next gen is better.

(I will probably be getting a PS3 in a short while for the disgaea games though instead of waiting for them to release on the vita)
 
2013-10-19 09:46:21 AM
Heavenly sword was enjoyable. I even enjoyed the sixaxis elements in the game, they were initially frustrating, but rewarding once you got the hang of it. However that's the only game where I liked anything done with the sixaxis controls.

I thought Rage was really well done in parts...even great occasionally. However there were parts of the game that fell flat, it had some pacing issues, and the driving was tedious at times.
 
2013-10-19 09:47:07 AM

kukukupo: I didn't have one game worth buying a current gen console.  It is the worst generation by far.  I own nearly every console up to this generation - I hope next gen is better.

(I will probably be getting a PS3 in a short while for the disgaea games though instead of waiting for them to release on the vita)


Skip Disgaea 3, probably the worst in the series. Just started Disgaea D2, not bad so far
 
rpm
2013-10-19 09:57:46 AM

Mentalpatient87: Romanes Eunt Domus: My copy of Lost Odyssey is still sitting on my shelf.  It seemed like a cool idea at the time but unskippable intros and outros for every single combat got annoying fast.  I remember the commercial receiving a fair bit of airtime at the time (it was the one that used "White Rabbit").

It's amazing how the idea of "yeah, that's cute, but it's gonna get in my farking way after the thousandth time" is entirely lost on game developers. I'm still trying to figure out why the menus on the Xbox 360 are so sluggish and clunky.


Well, the Lost Odyssey one has a reason. That company is made up of ex-Final Fantasy devs. 'nuff said.

360 menus sluggish? Not that I've noticed, but then I usually just move to the game in the drive and press A. You want sluggish menus, PS3. WTF? Why does it take so long after you press the PS button for things to come up. Things like "Quit Game" should be freaking cached.

/Still consider Lost Odyssey a better FF than FFXIII
 
rpm
2013-10-19 09:59:05 AM

Nightenstaff: A better article would have been a list of games you're still thinking about after a decade. Seriously, video games are way worse than other media in the "what have you done for me lately" generation.


Really? Movies tend to be pretty bad. As with games, there's a few standouts, but the majority are forgotten when (or sometimes before) they leave theaters.
 
2013-10-19 10:06:01 AM
I got the Ghostbusters game for the Wii at FiveBelow.

It was sort of just ok, I never made it past the first level because I simply wasn't that "invested" in playing it.

I heard it was better for the XBox.
 
2013-10-19 10:12:58 AM

buntz: I got the Ghostbusters game for the Wii at FiveBelow.

It was sort of just ok, I never made it past the first level because I simply wasn't that "invested" in playing it.

I heard it was better for the XBox.


I can't speak for the other versions, but I remember the Wii edition of Ghostbusters: The Game quite vividly for being one of the worst video games I've ever played.
 
2013-10-19 10:13:02 AM

buntz: I got the Ghostbusters game for the Wii at FiveBelow.

It was sort of just ok, I never made it past the first level because I simply wasn't that "invested" in playing it.

I heard it was better for the XBox.


I don't know about XBox, but the PC version is much better than the Wii one.

/remembers the game quite well, for the obvious reason.
 
Poe
2013-10-19 10:19:22 AM
I think I still have the PC copy of Ghostbusters kicking around somewhere.  I recall it as being shorter than I would have liked, but really appreciating the part with the Gray Lady.  You would come around a corner in a dark hallway and see her flash by an open doorway, standard horror game jump-scare stuff, but being armed with actual ghost fighting equipment instead of a shotgun or something was reassuring.
 
2013-10-19 10:20:45 AM

Ivo Shandor: buntz: I got the Ghostbusters game for the Wii at FiveBelow.

It was sort of just ok, I never made it past the first level because I simply wasn't that "invested" in playing it.

I heard it was better for the XBox.

I don't know about XBox, but the PC version is much better than the Wii one.

/remembers the game quite well, for the obvious reason.


I thought Ghostbusters was fun and it was cool that they got the actors and all. But it was PAINFULLY obvious that they got them at different times. I mean the acting in the game just felt like they were reading lines in a booth. Seriously, it was (the original) Resident Evil bad.

Perfect Dark Zero though wasn't a sequel, it was a remake. At least that's what I remember of it. It was just a level by level remake of the N64 game with better graphics.
 
2013-10-19 10:24:50 AM
The PC version of ghostbusters wasn't bad at all. And it supported XBox controller, which were actually easier than mouse/keyboard.

/I had fun for a few hours with it.
 
2013-10-19 10:25:36 AM
Blue Dragon would've been fine had they not done everything in their power to alienate players. A next-gen RPG by the team that made Chrono Trigger? Sign me up! However the characters were grating, their voices made your ears bleed, and the music was absolutely ridiculous. Seriously, this is the crap you had to listen to when you fought a boss. I'm down for a throwback RPG any day of the week, but there are some lines I won't cross.
 
2013-10-19 10:26:32 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Perfect Dark Zero though wasn't a sequel, it was a remake. At least that's what I remember of it. It was just a level by level remake of the N64 game with better graphics.


No, it was a prequel.  It wasn't even close to a level by level remake.
 
2013-10-19 10:32:26 AM
Wow, I didn't have an N64, does that mean that ballsack ass final boss fight was in the original Perfect Dark?
 
2013-10-19 10:40:07 AM
Oh, nevermind.
 
2013-10-19 10:41:50 AM

Romanes Eunt Domus: My copy of Lost Odyssey is still sitting on my shelf.  It seemed like a cool idea at the time but unskippable intros and outros for every single combat got annoying fast.  I remember the commercial receiving a fair bit of airtime at the time (it was the one that used "White Rabbit").


Yeah, I don't know how I made it through that one.  I'll never play it again for the same reason.
 
2013-10-19 10:42:50 AM
Farking Lair.  One of two games I had for PS3.
 
2013-10-19 10:56:52 AM

Glitchwerks: Richard_The_Clown: Perfect Dark Zero though wasn't a sequel, it was a remake. At least that's what I remember of it. It was just a level by level remake of the N64 game with better graphics.

No, it was a prequel.  It wasn't even close to a level by level remake.


He's thinking of Perfect Dark XBLA, which was a remake.
Both Xbox 360 games but released five years apart.
 
2013-10-19 10:59:27 AM

Nightenstaff: A better article would have been a list of games you're still thinking about after a decade. Seriously, video games are way worse than other media in the "what have you done for me lately" generation.


Current gen console games I'll probably still remember fondly in a decade: Red Dead Redemption, Dark/Demon's Souls, and Assassin's Creed I/II.

A few more PC games fore sure, but that doesn't really have a gen cut-off that I can measure, but stuff like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Witcher, and Just Cause 2 will hold places in my heart for a long time.
 
2013-10-19 11:01:05 AM

Glitchwerks: I liked Rage.  I would have liked it more if it didn't feel like the second half of the game was missing and the final mission wasn't such crap.

I'm guessing when they hit 3 discs for a console version, someone at Bethesda panicked and told them to wrap it up.


It felt to me like they just got bored working on the game. I really liked it at first. It looked great and played great, despite the crappy keyboard mapping (no keypad support, FFS). Then I realized that the game was really rigid and the player was being herded through the missions. Not only were the maps very linear, but the player wasn't even allowed to backtrack. It ended up feeling like driving a go-cart between rides in Disneyland. Rage could have been a great game. Too bad they lessened it with all those strange design choices.

IMO Borderlands is the game Rage could have been.
 
2013-10-19 11:08:26 AM
Heavenly Sword!  I knew there was a game that the upcoming Ryse reminded me of. It was pretty but the combat was so dull I never finished it.

Also, Lost Odyssey was great once you got though the first disk. I wish Microsoft were still trying to compete in Japan so they'd make a sequel.

kukukupo: I didn't have one game worth buying a current gen console.  It is the worst generation by far.  I own nearly every console up to this generation - I hope next gen is better.

(I will probably be getting a PS3 in a short while for the disgaea games though instead of waiting for them to release on the vita)


Demon Souls is worth getting a PS3 for. Best game of the generation... Maybe The Last of Us can finally take that title away.
 
KIA
2013-10-19 11:24:50 AM
Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?
 
2013-10-19 11:32:58 AM

Glitchwerks: I would have liked it more if it didn't feel like the second half of the game was missing and the final mission wasn't such crap.


Nailed it. When I finished the game , I was dumbfounded on how it came to such an abrupt end out of nowhere.

PhDemented: S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


I STILL play Call of Pripyat. Shadow of Chernobyl was awesome, but even after the mod patches, way too glitchy.

If you love S.T.A.L.K.E.R., you have to try it with the "Complete" mod. Makes the world much more dangerous, challenging, and deadly. Of course, that makes it more fun. :)
 
2013-10-19 11:36:49 AM

KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?


A buddy of mine was saying last night that they made a DLC for it. $5, where "there is a mission, and you get to watch everyone have a party."

His words, and thankfully, his $5, because I'm done giving EA money. They've farked a lot of franchises in such little time, including the awesome Dead Space franchise which went from horror/survival in the first two games to mind-numbingly simple and "meh" for the third, that they really shouldn't get any more money from anyone.
 
2013-10-19 11:37:43 AM

KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?


Ha! Probably being taught in game developer college courses as an example of how NOT to end a trilogy. That clusterfark will be remembered for years to come.
 
rpm
2013-10-19 11:46:53 AM

KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?


There's more than one?

Next thing is you'll say there's more than one Highlander movie.
 
2013-10-19 11:48:29 AM

rpm: KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?

There's more than one?

Next thing is you'll say there's more than one Highlander movie.


The second ME was the best of them.

Canterbury Tales in space works quite well.
 
2013-10-19 11:51:28 AM

RoxtarRyan: I STILL play Call of Pripyat. Shadow of Chernobyl was awesome, but even after the mod patches, way too glitchy.

If you love S.T.A.L.K.E.R., you have to try it with the "Complete" mod. Makes the world much more dangerous, challenging, and deadly. Of course, that makes it more fun. :)


There's a game I always wanted to play, but haven't dared to buy it because I don't want to buy another broken game that I can't play.  I bought Dead Island for PC, but it has problems with Win 8 and none of the fixes on the Steam board managed to get it to work.  I'm only out $5 for that though, so I'm not too pissed.
 
rpm
2013-10-19 11:52:10 AM

Whiplash!!!: rpm: KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?

There's more than one?

Next thing is you'll say there's more than one Highlander movie.

The second ME was the best of them.

Canterbury Tales in space works quite well.


I've got two, had it for a while, never broke the shrinkwrap.

Shepherd is dead, killed by a force more powerful than the Reapers - the RRoD. Is it worth starting 2 without having a character from 1?
 
2013-10-19 11:56:08 AM

rpm: Whiplash!!!: rpm: KIA: Where does Mass Effect 3 fit in here?

There's more than one?

Next thing is you'll say there's more than one Highlander movie.

The second ME was the best of them.

Canterbury Tales in space works quite well.

I've got two, had it for a while, never broke the shrinkwrap.

Shepherd is dead, killed by a force more powerful than the Reapers - the RRoD. Is it worth starting 2 without having a character from 1?


I got ME2 on a Steam sale. It was the first ME game I played. Loved it. So, yes it really is worth it. The combat is much more refined than the first one and the characters you meet really make for a great narrative.
 
2013-10-19 11:57:15 AM

Uncle Tractor: Glitchwerks: I liked Rage.  I would have liked it more if it didn't feel like the second half of the game was missing and the final mission wasn't such crap.

I'm guessing when they hit 3 discs for a console version, someone at Bethesda panicked and told them to wrap it up.

It felt to me like they just got bored working on the game. I really liked it at first. It looked great and played great, despite the crappy keyboard mapping (no keypad support, FFS). Then I realized that the game was really rigid and the player was being herded through the missions. Not only were the maps very linear, but the player wasn't even allowed to backtrack. It ended up feeling like driving a go-cart between rides in Disneyland. Rage could have been a great game. Too bad they lessened it with all those strange design choices.

IMO Borderlands is the game Rage could have been.


Yeah, it felt like they started off wanting to create a huge world then came budget and time constraints, and as a result it came off stilted and unpolished in areas. I thought the FPS elements were really well done though.
 
2013-10-19 12:00:01 PM
I have Legendary and I just got Haze. Legendary is an odd game I can tell you that much. Got frustrated near the end and have not gotten back to it.
 
2013-10-19 12:16:56 PM
The Last Guardian

cause its still not out
 
2013-10-19 12:23:47 PM
Those were all made for console.  I wouldnt call those games.
 
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