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2013-10-19 08:19:32 AM  
I say: good for them.  More students need to unofficially unionize this way to stop the abuses in the college system.
 
2013-10-19 08:21:34 AM  
I don't think I can remember a college team just quitting before. That's pretty cool.
 
2013-10-19 08:25:42 AM  
Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?
 
2013-10-19 08:39:26 AM  
It still amuses me that colleges have homecoming
 
2013-10-19 08:44:11 AM  
 Grambling State football team revolting...

you said it....they stink on ice

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2013-10-19 08:58:10 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: It still amuses me that colleges have homecoming


Por que?
 
2013-10-19 09:13:03 AM  
In other news, HaHa Clinton-Dix is cleared to play for Alabama
 
2013-10-19 09:15:47 AM  

puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?




Grambling St was a football powerhouse before segregation ended. Desegregation effectively killed football at HBCU's.
 
2013-10-19 09:26:28 AM  

puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?


media3.onsugar.com

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/374918/240-worth-of-pudding.jhtml
 
2013-10-19 09:29:41 AM  
I understand completely the players points.  The team they're now playing for sucks in all aspects.  But at the same time, if they refuse to play, they should lose their scholarships.
 
2013-10-19 09:30:13 AM  
The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt
 
2013-10-19 09:32:30 AM  

smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt


Unfortunately Republicans have stripped Grambling of even basic funds necessary for education, let alone running athletics programs. Bobby Jindal & his buddies are trying to route black kids to shiatty for-profit "colleges" that give him money.
 
2013-10-19 09:37:08 AM  

smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt


Ah. That's been the detail missing from this and the redlit submissions. I don't follow college football at all and had no idea this was going on or why.
 
2013-10-19 09:48:33 AM  

puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?


All of the FBS schools football championships have been mythical.
 
2013-10-19 10:05:01 AM  

JSam21: puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?

All of the FBS schools football championships have been mythical.


This. Fbs needs a playoff. The 4 team playoff next season isn't enough either. Still too much controversy and ratings based on voting. I'd love to see a top 8 playoff, or a top 10 playoff with a first round buy for the top 6.

Then we'd actually get a championship.
 
2013-10-19 10:10:10 AM  

smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt



It was mentioned in an article I read that as part of the 8 hour bus ride, get your ass kicked, 8 hour bus ride back home there was no money for food on the bus trips - I assume they ate at the game site - but that's just awful if true.
 
2013-10-19 10:17:26 AM  
 
2013-10-19 10:19:48 AM  

JSam21: puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?

All of the FBS schools football championships have been mythical.


Bingo.  No playoffs, no championship.
 
2013-10-19 10:38:54 AM  

elguerodiablo: [media3.onsugar.com image 320x240]

Barry and LeVon, where did you get $240?
 
2013-10-19 10:40:59 AM  
So this is like Major League, except with college football
 
2013-10-19 10:47:08 AM  

Joe_diGriz: The SI.com article is just as depressing.

They don't even have enough supplements to replenish their bodies after workouts. "We got some Muscle Milk donated but we have to give it to certain people, like who needs it this week and who doesn't, kinda ration it," Smith says.


Grambling now buses to games as far away as Kansas City and Indianapolis, 650 and 750 miles away from campus, respectively. For the latter of those trips, the team left campus at 6 p.m. on a Thursday night and did not arrive in Indianapolis until 9 a.m. on Friday. Not surprisingly, the players appeared unprepared and listless in a 48-0 loss to Alcorn State. "


It really is. I would have walked off a while ago and just been a regular student at that point.
 
2013-10-19 11:08:08 AM  

BizarreMan: I understand completely the players points.  The team they're now playing for sucks in all aspects.  But at the same time, if they refuse to play, they should lose their scholarships.


No, the scholarship was a 2 way contract. The school promised them a football program to compete in, and obviously didn't fulfill their end of the contract. The school should liable for the entire value of the scholarship even if the football program is shuttered
 
2013-10-19 11:16:30 AM  

enry: smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt

Ah. That's been the detail missing from this and the redlit submissions. I don't follow college football at all and had no idea this was going on or why.


It's a much bigger issue that just football.

"Since 2007-08, overall state funding for Grambling has gone from $31.6 million to $13.8 million. The school has attempted to bridge that gap by increasing tuition, but it has fallen short, and cuts have been made across the board. Approximately 127 staff members have been laid off since 2008 and furloughs are common. Professors have also been asked to teach an extra class each year for free. Generally, the school has "cut to the bone," says Leon Sanders, Grambling's vice president for finance."

State funding for Louisiana's colleges is at its lowest level since the 1950s, just over half what it was in 2009.  And it's not just Louisiana.  Kansas has been doing the same thing in recent years.  Schools try to make it up where they can, but they can only raise tuition so much.
 
2013-10-19 11:23:47 AM  
so is this the de facto NCAA thread for this week?  WTF.
 
2013-10-19 11:30:44 AM  

rugman11: enry: smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt

Ah. That's been the detail missing from this and the redlit submissions. I don't follow college football at all and had no idea this was going on or why.

It's a much bigger issue that just football.

"Since 2007-08, overall state funding for Grambling has gone from $31.6 million to $13.8 million. The school has attempted to bridge that gap by increasing tuition, but it has fallen short, and cuts have been made across the board. Approximately 127 staff members have been laid off since 2008 and furloughs are common. Professors have also been asked to teach an extra class each year for free. Generally, the school has "cut to the bone," says Leon Sanders, Grambling's vice president for finance."

State funding for Louisiana's colleges is at its lowest level since the 1950s, just over half what it was in 2009.  And it's not just Louisiana.  Kansas has been doing the same thing in recent years.  Schools try to make it up where they can, but they can only raise tuition so much.


Brilliant Republicans trying to drive all the smart people out of the state. That way the only people left are their constituents.
 
2013-10-19 12:04:22 PM  
Some self-righteous asshole will say the players are 'quitters'.  1-18, counting the forfeit, over the last two seasons.  It's not like those kids haven't proven they will stick to it, if there is any hope.  They may not be the most talented group, but they don't deserve this neglect and abuse and Grambling should honor all their scholarships, no matter what happens to the program.

The problem is obviously in the univeristy's management, not the team.
 
2013-10-19 12:10:43 PM  

bubbaprog: smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt

Unfortunately Republicans have stripped Grambling of even basic funds necessary for education, let alone running athletics programs. Bobby Jindal & his buddies are trying to route black kids to shiatty for-profit "colleges" that give him money.


Yes because no other schools had their budget cut either, oh wait they did? Well then those evil republicans must have slashed their budget to keep the team bad, oh wait they didn't cut any of that funding and was 100% the schools decision.

You people look for the bogeyman wherever you can force blame on political adversaries. Its pathetic.

The reason for this shiat is because school administration sucks and they want to assert their power.
 
2013-10-19 12:12:05 PM  

rugman11: enry: smerfnablin: The deadspin and espn articles do not paint a happy picture.

Floor mats in the weight room were falling apart so the coach raised money from private donors to replace them. All of a sudden the president decides since he didn't get his cut he takes all the mats out and stores them. The coach protested and got fired.

They have to ride a bus for 1500 miles to go play a game in a neutral location while their competition flies in and kills them by 48 points. They players complain and are threatened with having their athletic scholarships pulled.

If you can't fund a program correctly then please shut it down. Don't nickel and dime your kids until someone gets hurt

Ah. That's been the detail missing from this and the redlit submissions. I don't follow college football at all and had no idea this was going on or why.

It's a much bigger issue that just football.

"Since 2007-08, overall state funding for Grambling has gone from $31.6 million to $13.8 million. The school has attempted to bridge that gap by increasing tuition, but it has fallen short, and cuts have been made across the board. Approximately 127 staff members have been laid off since 2008 and furloughs are common. Professors have also been asked to teach an extra class each year for free. Generally, the school has "cut to the bone," says Leon Sanders, Grambling's vice president for finance."

State funding for Louisiana's colleges is at its lowest level since the 1950s, just over half what it was in 2009.  And it's not just Louisiana.  Kansas has been doing the same thing in recent years.  Schools try to make it up where they can, but they can only raise tuition so much.


And the money that should be going there is now going to high school vouchers that allow their students to go to "elite" schools that teach that the Loch Ness Monster is real and disproves evolution.  All in the name of "improving education".

/If the fundie farkers really wanted to improve education, they'd let their churches be taxed to fund the public schools.
 
2013-10-19 12:31:17 PM  
The funding for all the state schools is down, LSU is facing money problems as well.
 
2013-10-19 12:34:53 PM  

puckrock2000: Grambling's program... has won a record 14 mythical national championships for programs at historically black schools.

So, is this like a real thing, or is it like saying I had a mythical 3-way last night with Salma Hayek and your mom in a hot tub full of pudding?


When Head Coach Eddie Robinson retired in 1997 (as the winningest coach in college history) his teams had added more players to NFL rosters than any school in the nation. I had the privilege of seeing him coach at the 1978 East-West Shrine Bowl game held in Stanford Stadium. The stars of the show were two of his players, Doug Williams and Carlos Pennywell. Doug Williams in particular looked like a man among boys. Doug Williams was until last year, the head coach at Grambling. I'll always be a Grambling fan.

/Doug Williams also supported the student athletes in this "strike"
 
2013-10-19 12:41:56 PM  
Articles also mention serious problem with staph infections.

The single most important thing that unions (and union-like things) do is addressing occupational health and safety.
 
2013-10-19 01:55:53 PM  
bubbaprog: Unfortunately Republicans have stripped Grambling of even basic funds necessary for education, let alone running athletics programs. Bobby Jindal & his buddies are trying to route black kids to shiatty for-profit "colleges" that give him money.

The answer to Grambling's problems is political. But I have a solution to their dilemma. They need a guy with ties to Grambling who can lie like a rug that they can use as a scapegoat to blame their problems on. That guy has just lost his job in Los Angles. No, it's not Lane Kiffen. It's everybody's favorite aging lesbian Bruce Jenner, otherwise known as Grambling's white tiger.
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First off, they need to fire the two pathetic jokers that allowed this problem to happen, and then replace him with Jenner.
Tell Jenner that all he needs to do is to convince Jindal and his political buds that of course they will kick them back some money, at an even greater rate than the other schools. In the meanwhile while Jenner is off wining and dining the good old boys, place some even greater restrictions on the Grambling football time. Such as shutting down the cafeteria where they eat, and withholding medical attention on injured players. Then call in the press and blame the entire thing on Jenner.

It doesn't matter that Jenner would not have a thing to do with the original mess, nor the dirty tricks; now they have a white guy to blame it on. Call in the usual suspects (Al, Jessie, Spike), contact the main stream press and run with it. FOXNEWS and the republican think tank crowd ain't gonna help Jenner; not only is he a hated Kardassian, he also looks like a lesbian.
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When it gets really bad and the death threats start to roll in, Holder and Obama can magnanimously step in and bail out the troubled Grambling football program, ruined by the accursed white devil Jenner. Ta da!
 
2013-10-19 02:04:10 PM  

captacc: The funding for all the state schools is down, LSU is facing money problems as well.


Haven't you listened to people here on fark? Its all because of evil Republicans wanted to punish a black school.
 
2013-10-19 02:07:08 PM  
A letter from the Grambling players also mentioned moldy facilities and players coming down with multiple staph infections.

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While I obviously don't know all the details, I find it hard not to side with the Grambling players at this point.
 
2013-10-19 02:43:08 PM  
varmitydog:

Dude, have you even considered Grambling's greatest player ever, all-pro safety Walter 'Gib' Gibson?


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2013-10-19 02:43:08 PM  

rcf1105: A letter from the Grambling players also mentioned moldy facilities and players coming down with multiple staph infections.



While I obviously don't know all the details, I find it hard not to side with the Grambling players at this point.


Yeah that shiat is nasty, seems their admin sucks and decided to cut everything they can to cut corners.
 
2013-10-19 03:38:51 PM  
If the school can't properly fund the program, they need to shut it down until they can and honor all of the scholarships.
 
2013-10-19 03:39:03 PM  

steamingpile: captacc: The funding for all the state schools is down, LSU is facing money problems as well.

Haven't you listened to people here on fark? Its all because of evil Republicans wanted to punish a black school.


One person.  One person said something remotely close to this, and even that would be a stretch.
 
2013-10-19 03:48:13 PM  
As an alumnus of a Southwestern Athletic Conference school, I say GO GRAMBLING!!!!  Those kids were recruited to play football and hopefully get an education as a bonus.  Treating them poorly doesn't help the image of the school, the conference, or HBCU schools as a whole.

I wouldn't return to the field until the health and safety issues were adequately addressed.  That would include not showing up for the Bayou Classic in November.  I guarantee that the money lost from NBC would be enough to get the administration to do something before then.

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2013-10-19 03:56:08 PM  

ongbok: If the school can't properly fund the program, they need to shut it down until they can and honor all of the scholarships.


Or just end their football program and put the football money towards creating a kick-ass basketball program.  Not sure why more non I-A schools don't do this.
 
2013-10-19 04:03:23 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: ongbok: If the school can't properly fund the program, they need to shut it down until they can and honor all of the scholarships.

Or just end their football program and put the football money towards creating a kick-ass basketball program.  Not sure why more non I-A schools don't do this.


Many of the non I-A schools still send players to the NFL just as the I-A schools don't send every player who plays for them.  There are far more football players in non I-A schools than there are in I-A schools.  Why would you knock out many of those kid's chance to get a college education just because they don't sign with one of the big schools?  There are many HOF players from non I-A schools, not to mention the number who have played pro football and had successful careers.
 
2013-10-19 04:40:48 PM  
It is not required for a school to have a football program.  If they cannot support the program with a minimum level of standards such as functioning equipment and a healthy environment, they need to pull the plug.  It would be sad to see Grambling lose it's long standing program, but the core mission of a college is education, not sports.  If they are cutting corners on food and facilities, chances are they are cutting corners in other required areas such as medical care and safe equipment for the team. I am glad the players were brave enough to take a stand to raise attention to the issues the program has. It couldn't have been easy for them to take this action.
 
2013-10-19 04:55:52 PM  

Joe_diGriz: The SI.com article is just as depressing.


Sounds like a lot of personality conflicts and NONE of them involved Doug Williams, who was looking out for the kids.
 
2013-10-19 04:57:23 PM  

Lost Thought 00: BizarreMan: I understand completely the players points.  The team they're now playing for sucks in all aspects.  But at the same time, if they refuse to play, they should lose their scholarships.

No, the scholarship was a 2 way contract. The school promised them a football program to compete in, and obviously didn't fulfill their end of the contract. The school should liable for the entire value of the scholarship even if the football program is shuttered


This; they're not asking for the facilities that players in the SEC enjoy, but they're not asking for what they're currently getting either.
 
2013-10-19 05:06:01 PM  

Maybe you should drive: steamingpile: captacc: The funding for all the state schools is down, LSU is facing money problems as well.

Haven't you listened to people here on fark? Its all because of evil Republicans wanted to punish a black school.

One person.  One person said something remotely close to this, and even that would be a stretch.


Two people. Two people said exactly that.

/Counting is hard, right?
 
2013-10-19 05:10:50 PM  

Rwa2play: Lost Thought 00: BizarreMan: I understand completely the players points.  The team they're now playing for sucks in all aspects.  But at the same time, if they refuse to play, they should lose their scholarships.

No, the scholarship was a 2 way contract. The school promised them a football program to compete in, and obviously didn't fulfill their end of the contract. The school should liable for the entire value of the scholarship even if the football program is shuttered

This; they're not asking for the facilities that players in the SEC enjoy, but they're not asking for what they're currently getting either.


I think they would be happy if their facilities were just mold free.
 
2013-10-19 05:15:29 PM  

Carousel Beast: Two people. Two people said exactly that.

/Counting is hard, right?


Apparently reading comprehension is harder because I haven't a clue what you're talking about.
 
2013-10-19 05:28:49 PM  

Maybe you should drive: Carousel Beast: Two people. Two people said exactly that.

/Counting is hard, right?

Apparently reading comprehension is harder because I haven't a clue what you're talking about.


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2013-10-19 05:30:56 PM  
Players apparently keep getting staph infections because Grambling is too cheap to actually clean things. Sometimes you have to take a stand.
 
2013-10-19 06:10:31 PM  

Maybe you should drive: steamingpile: captacc: The funding for all the state schools is down, LSU is facing money problems as well.

Haven't you listened to people here on fark? Its all because of evil Republicans wanted to punish a black school.

One person.  One person said something remotely close to this, and even that would be a stretch.


Multiple agreed with them and its that kind of shiat why I stay out of the politics tab, there is no kind of rational conversation there its all one sided.

The sooner one side quits thinking their side is right all the time and the other side is evil then we may have political progress until then its a moot point. And yes this goes for both sides.
 
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