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(Opposing Views)   You remember that waitress who got $10K in tips after a customer wrote a racial slur on the tip line? Turns out that customer didn't do it. I wonder who it could have been   (opposingviews.com) divider line 347
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2013-10-18 11:37:09 PM
I'm not buying it. I think the guy did it.

There's a chance some dickwad teenager just wrote on it on his way out of the restaurant but in any event the guy is a complete tool for not leaving a tip in the first place.
 
2013-10-18 11:57:55 PM
So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him
 
2013-10-19 12:03:38 AM

joshiz: I'm not buying it. I think the guy did it.

There's a chance some dickwad teenager just wrote on it on his way out of the restaurant but in any event the guy is a complete tool for not leaving a tip in the first place.


Although, we don't even know that no tip was left..... many people pay for the meal with a card and pay the tip with cash (or someone pays and someone else in the party says "I'll put the tip down").   So, he just leaves it blank since it is all settled (although, in that case, I'd generally line out the tip line and rewrite the total to be sure).

I'm not saying, but, it isn't like there isn't history of people claiming someone did something to gather attention....

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-10-19 12:08:17 AM
The "i" on the receipt ends with a slight curve to the right, as do several in his writing sample. The letter "e" also looks the same. "N," "g," and "r" don't, though (with the exception of the "g" in "saying"). Hmmm...
 
2013-10-19 12:10:12 AM

dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


So he is a racist by not leaving a tip? FFS, dude.
 
2013-10-19 12:14:29 AM
Please
 
2013-10-19 12:14:47 AM
It's an Opposing Views link. The bastion of accuracy

/fark gets kickbacks from these I'm sure
 
2013-10-19 12:18:41 AM

DanZero: It's an Opposing Views link. The bastion of accuracy

/fark gets kickbacks from these I'm sure


The Opposing Views article just combines the information from the two source articles listed at the bottom of the page.  There's no reason to be paranoid.

Still, an expert hired by this guy and provided with handwriting samples from after-the-fact doesn't exactly impress me much in regards to his innocence.
 
2013-10-19 12:21:08 AM
The man accused of writing the words on the receipt, Devin Barnes, went to his attorney, who also happens to be his pastor

A pastor AND a lawyer? Somebody call Fox, I have a sitcom to pitch to them.


There is no evidence that neither Devin Barnes nor his wife wrote that hideous statement on the line total

Double negative, ten yard penalty.


Toni Braxton, the waitress who served Barnes

Wow, her signing career must have really hit the skids.
 
2013-10-19 12:26:07 AM
TFA: "There is no evidence that neither Devin Barnes nor his wife wrote that hideous statement on the line total "

So... there's evidence that one of them did?

joshiz: the guy is a complete tool for not leaving a tip in the first place.


dahmers love zombie: personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat. He intentionally wrote "none" for that server. Fark him. I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


This is ridiculous.  If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?
I've always been a proponent of just having the employer pay a fair wage and give their employees raises/bonuses/firings based on their performance, but the tradition we're stuck with puts customers in that position.  So yeah, if you're a shiatty waitress you deserve shiatty tips.  If you're a shiatty enough waitress, you deserve no tip.  You don't just get to collect 15% on top for no reason.

/ Usually if I'm going to stiff somebody I'll tip them $0.01 and write a note next to it explaining why.  No idea if that penny makes them feel better or worse, but worse is generally the vibe I'm going for if it comes to that.
 
2013-10-19 12:26:33 AM

dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


Did you read the bit where it was a take out order for pick up? I'll tip 10percent for take out at place that offers table service. But frankly, most people don't tip for meals that they pick up at a Red Lobster, Applebees etc...when they order take out only, and fill in the tip line so it doesn't get screwed with.

The only puzzle on the receipt is that the final amount isn't filled in.

The "Gs" on the receipt have 'fishhook" type descenders which are very tight, and open backs on the g. If the person writing the note is the same as the person writing on the receipt...it's getting into 'unlikely' territory.
 
2013-10-19 12:27:54 AM

optikeye: dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him

Did you read the bit where it was a take out order for pick up? I'll tip 10percent for take out at place that offers table service. But frankly, most people don't tip for meals that they pick up at a Red Lobster, Applebees etc...when they order take out only, and fill in the tip line so it doesn't get screwed with.

The only puzzle on the receipt is that the final amount isn't filled in.

The "Gs" on the receipt have 'fishhook" type descenders which are very tight, and open backs on the g. If the person writing the note is the same as the person writing on the receipt...it's getting into 'unlikely' territory.


Capital N and the I also do not look the same.

The only letter that looks like the handwriting is the E
 
2013-10-19 12:28:04 AM

fusillade762: Toni Braxton, the waitress who served Barnes

Wow, her signing career must have really hit the skids.


Her music just wasn't as popular with the deaf community as it was with the rest of us.  Go figure
 
2013-10-19 12:29:00 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Still, an expert hired by this guy and provided with handwriting samples from after-the-fact doesn't exactly impress me much in regards to his innocence.


Yeah, I can imagine it wouldn't be hard to hire a handwriting expert to find it is his handwriting. Its a matter of whose interpretation is more credible.
 
2013-10-19 12:32:13 AM

serial_crusher: This is ridiculous. If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?


If we are to believe the message on the linked article. The Customer was ordering TAKE OUT.

While I'll tip 10 or 15 for take out at places that offer sit down service. Most people won't tip for take out. Do you tip for take out?
 
2013-10-19 12:33:04 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Still, an expert hired by this guy and provided with handwriting samples from after-the-fact doesn't exactly impress me much in regards to his innocence.


I'd like to see a writing sample that predates the receipt.
 
2013-10-19 12:37:05 AM
FTFA: The man accused of writing the words on the receipt, Devin Barnes, went to his attorney, who also happens to be his pastor...his attorney, Richard Dugger, hired a handwriting expert to compare the writing found on the receipt with other writing samples provided by Barnes. According to Dugger, the expert says the writing is not a match.

i.imgur.com

Innocent until proven guilty. But just because one handwriting specialist hired by the defense says something doesn't mean case closed. And what the fark is this guy's pastor doing as an attorney?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-10-19 12:37:53 AM
It was poor judgment on Ms. Toni Braxton's behalf to post the receipt with personal information included.

The Fark handwriting experts are at work.
I think that the handwriting sample is indicative or poor handwriting.
 
2013-10-19 12:39:17 AM

433: It was poor judgment on Ms. Toni Braxton's behalf to post the receipt with personal information included.

The Fark handwriting experts are at work.
I think that the handwriting sample is indicative or poor handwriting.


Its still better than how doctors write
 
2013-10-19 12:40:42 AM

433: It was poor judgment on Ms. Toni Braxton's behalf to post the receipt with personal information included.

The Fark handwriting experts are at work.
I think that the handwriting sample is indicative or poor handwriting.


And poor grammar.
 
2013-10-19 12:41:04 AM

serial_crusher: dahmers love zombie: personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat. He intentionally wrote "none" for that server. Fark him. I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him

This is ridiculous.  If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?


And has anyone considered maybe he tipped cash?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-10-19 12:48:59 AM

fusillade762: And has anyone considered maybe he tipped cash?


In TFA, and in his own words, he did not tip.
He picked up a take-out order. and states that on tip line, he wrote "none."
 
2013-10-19 12:55:04 AM

Somacandra: And what the fark is this guy's pastor doing as an attorney?


Screwing him both ways?

"That'll be ten percent of your net. Oh, and my hourly..."

optikeye: serial_crusher: This is ridiculous. If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?

If we are to believe the message on the linked article. The Customer was ordering TAKE OUT.

While I'll tip 10 or 15 for take out at places that offer sit down service. Most people won't tip for take out. Do you tip for take out?


I usually tip a dollar for takeout, but sit-down I normally tip roughly 20%-30%, sometimes a bit more depending. I can afford it, and they could definitely use it. If it's a very small bill, a couple bucks, we might be talking more like 100% or more.

Lorelle: TuteTibiImperes: Still, an expert hired by this guy and provided with handwriting samples from after-the-fact doesn't exactly impress me much in regards to his innocence.

I'd like to see a writing sample that predates the receipt.


This. And I'd like to see evidence that he wrote the exemplars without coaching or other consideration and/or assistance.
 
2013-10-19 01:04:44 AM

optikeye: serial_crusher: This is ridiculous. If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?

If we are to believe the message on the linked article. The Customer was ordering TAKE OUT.

While I'll tip 10 or 15 for take out at places that offer sit down service. Most people won't tip for take out. Do you tip for take out?


Yeah, I didn't even notice that part until people started mentioning it in the thread.  That's even more ridiculous.  I don't tip for take-out. 
Who would your tip even go to in that case?  Every place I go to for takeout, the hostess is the one who performs the arduous task of walking to the back and picking up the bag with my food in it.  When I eat in, does the waitress share tips with her?
 
2013-10-19 01:19:47 AM
they didn't order takeout. they asked for to-go boxes when the realized they were going to have a black waitress.

"They were extremely rude, but I introduced myself to them and they didn't respond. When I came to take their orders they simply told me they wanted their food and to put everything in a to-go box. I offered them dessert but they told me abruptly that they just wanted the check. When I went back to the table they had gone and left the receipt and had written the comments."

they walked in and sat at a table and a waitress came to serve them. That's not take out.


as for this guy not writing the comment...bullshiat.
 
2013-10-19 01:24:48 AM
When I sit down and eat...I normally write "CASH" on the tip line, and bring the total down to the final line of bill.

With with the cash option; the server doesn't have to report all the tip. The IRS expects 8-10 percent for total receipts (Which the manager reports).

Tips reported on Credit Cards are reported as "TIPS" to the IRS--because there's a paper trail.

A "Cash" (or even 'none') on the tip line..means they get taxed 10 percent of tab as reported income in Tips to the IRS.

A full amount on the credit card that tip gets reported at full value.


People that stuff servers with large groups can sometimes end up costing the server to wait on them when tax comes as the IRS looks at total receipts and expects 8-10 percent in tips at minimal.

/this info could be outdated...anyone know the updated figures?
 
2013-10-19 01:33:43 AM
toobbox.com
 
2013-10-19 01:37:53 AM

log_jammin: they didn't order takeout. they asked for to-go boxes when the realized they were going to have a black waitress.

"They were extremely rude, but I introduced myself to them and they didn't respond. When I came to take their orders they simply told me they wanted their food and to put everything in a to-go box. I offered them dessert but they told me abruptly that they just wanted the check. When I went back to the table they had gone and left the receipt and had written the comments."

they walked in and sat at a table and a waitress came to serve them. That's not take out.


That's a pretty poorly-told story.  I'm not sure what to make of it.
I'm guessing what happened is she took forever to get to them so they said, "hey look, just get us a to go order because we don't want to sit here all night, but we still have to eat something".  It's entirely speculation, but it's the only reason I can fathom why somebody would sit down and then order carry out.
 
2013-10-19 01:39:37 AM

serial_crusher: optikeye: serial_crusher: This is ridiculous. If a waiter provides terrible service, you still have to tip them?

If we are to believe the message on the linked article. The Customer was ordering TAKE OUT.

While I'll tip 10 or 15 for take out at places that offer sit down service. Most people won't tip for take out. Do you tip for take out?

Yeah, I didn't even notice that part until people started mentioning it in the thread.  That's even more ridiculous.  I don't tip for take-out. 
Who would your tip even go to in that case?  Every place I go to for takeout, the hostess is the one who performs the arduous task of walking to the back and picking up the bag with my food in it.  When I eat in, does the waitress share tips with her?


It should depend on the place.  If they don't offer sit-down service (like most chain pizza joints) or they only have a few token tables (like most Chinese take-out places) I'll either tip nothing or a buck or two.  If it's a restaurant that does most of its business sit-down, I'll tip the same as I would for a sit-down meal.  Usually it's a waitress stuck on take-out duty and she has to package the food from the kitchen, make sure the order is right, put in all of the condiments and plastic-ware, etc.
 
2013-10-19 01:43:07 AM

serial_crusher: I'm guessing what happened is she took forever to get to them so they said, "hey look, just get us a to go order because we don't want to sit here all night, but we still have to eat something".


how would getting the food in to-go boxes make them get it any faster or make them sit there for less time?

serial_crusher: but it's the only reason I can fathom why somebody would sit down and then order carry out.


other than the guy was a racists ass and got upset once he realized his server was black? you know, the one reason that is backed by evidence.
 
2013-10-19 01:47:07 AM
Regardless of who is telling the truth in the situation, there is one thing I do know: any server that posts an unredacted receipt on the Internet should be fired, no questions asked.
 
2013-10-19 01:59:03 AM

Elegy: Regardless of who is telling the truth in the situation, there is one thing I do know: any server that posts an unredacted receipt on the Internet should be fired, no questions asked.


what about a reporter who publishes a picture of the unredacted receipt? You know, like the daily mail did when they first popularized this story and made the unredacted receipt news all over the world and not just some girls facebook post.
 
2013-10-19 02:02:47 AM

Elegy: Regardless of who is telling the truth in the situation, there is one thing I do know: any server that posts an unredacted receipt on the Internet should be fired, no questions asked.


Because...?
 
2013-10-19 02:18:36 AM

Sid_6.7: Elegy: Regardless of who is telling the truth in the situation, there is one thing I do know: any server that posts an unredacted receipt on the Internet should be fired, no questions asked.

Because...?


Reasons.
 
2013-10-19 02:19:08 AM
I worked at a RL in the 90s (Sept 93- Oct 2000) as a food server (and many shifts as bartender, cook, food prep, fill-in manager... when you work there for that long, you can grab extra hours doing anything and sometimes it was a nice break to get out of the front of the house).

there were times when the table would sit, I'd take their order, start bringing them stuff (biscuits, drinks, get their salads/soup ready...) and then they would inform me of a time constraint, or an emergency, so their dine-in became carry-out. they didn't necessarily get their food any faster, but if I talked to the right people in the kitchen, I could get them out of there quickly, which is in my best interest as a server so that I could free that table up to be re-sat. in those instances, I wouldn't expect a "full" gratuity (15%), but I would expect a little something for the brief amount of time they took up real estate. and chances were that I'd be the one putting their to-go order together in the back, to make sure it was right and to get them out quickly.

if they just sat down and immediately said that they would like to place a to-go order, I would point out were the bar is and tell them they could sit at the bar while they waited for their order. and then often, it was the bartender who had to go back in the kitchen and get everything ready.

if they insisted on sitting at a table to wait for their to-go order, then I'd simply go back up front to the host podium and instruct them to seat me again, or cancel out that table on their little screen.

depending on the time of day and how busy we were, I don't care if you want to sit and wait for your take-out order at a table in my section. so what, we're dead, you're not requiring anything of me and I can keep an eye on you from the bar while I'm watching a baseball game.

ideally, the hostesses would be in charge of that entire transaction, but often they were the younger high-school females and quite simply, couldn't be counted on to process a take-out order (to take the order, key it in correctly, box it up correctly, make sure the proper condiments and sauces, salads, biscuits were wrapped up, handle the payment...), so often it fell to the bartender. also, the food servers and bartenders knew the menu 100% better than the hostesses (especially Jayme, she was stupid) so they knew the appropriate questions to ask and were better able to answer any customer questions.

the travesty was when a phone-in order would be received (the hostesses answered the phone), the call would get transferred to the bar, the bartender would key it in and assemble everything and have it waiting in the hot-boxes, the customer would come in and then the hostess would grab the ticket and ring it up and often times the people would tip cash and give it directly to the hostess who did absolutely nothing in preparing that order.

hell, sometimes I'd take a call for a take-out (if the bartenders wouldn't answer their phone and the hostess would be looking around for the first available person). but I would instruct the people to ask for me upon arriving to pick up their order. so I'd key in a take-out, have the kitchen assemble it all to-go, and then I'd ring it up for the people when they'd arrive (they also appreciated dealing with the same person from start-to-finish with their transaction). and hopefully I'd make a quick extra tip without giving up a table.

tl;dr version:

when I worked at RL, there were no specific rules concerning carry-out/to-go orders.


/you eventually realize that the amount of money a stranger decides to leave you is not a reflection of who you are as a person
//getting stiffed doesn't mean you're a bad person or a horrible server, but it cuts both ways; getting a great tip doesn't allow you to walk around all high and mighty.
///there's a certain wisdom that comes while you're getting drunk on Zimas and Bahama Mama's at the bar during your shift.
 
2013-10-19 02:22:15 AM
So I went to the linked story to see if it mentioned whether the order was take out or not and I see this:

Toni Christina Jenkins, 19, was working her shift when she went to collect the payment from a couple of customers who had racked up a $45 bill.

But the new article says:

Toni Braxton, the waitress who served Barnes and his wife

Apparently we can't even get consistent reporting of the waitresses goddamn name.
 
2013-10-19 02:26:30 AM
This whole story seems fishy.

Red Lobster jokes aside...

In the original article they *did* sit down at the table and the waitress served them and said they were extremely rude. So they did not intend initially to get their order to go. Since they were seated and visited by a server, a tip is still warranted.

The guy says he "discovered" the next day that the n-word was written on the receipt. So it was written on it before he got it? That just doesn't make sense.
 
2013-10-19 02:36:34 AM
she sounds like a mean person and a total liar...

To Devin Barnes: first I want to say sorry for any hate you received or any scrutiny that you endured. My intentions where never to have you attacked or looked down upon. Some of the comments I received from my supporters regarding you were so hurtful so I can only imagine the ones you had to deal with. I hope you can understand that my heart is genuine in my apology and that God touches your heart to accept my apology. When I posted that picture my intentions where to get a few likes and a few comments (50-100 comments is what I expected). That was all. And I posted it in audacity of the situation and to show that racism was still out there, not because I was angry, hurt, wanted revenge, or wanted any disdain towards you. In complete honesty I had NO CLUE your name was printed on the receipt. I knew your signature was on it but I couldn't read it so I didn't pay attention to it. When a friend pointed out that your name was clearly printed on there I immediately regretted putting the picture up there. Still at that moment I didn't think anything would come of the situation because racism happens everyday and i was just another victim..I didn't take it personal or anything. I want you to know being the person I am I hold no grudge. If I ever saw you in public I would most definitely notice you and if you wouldn't be completely freaked out by it, I would hug you. I know we both went through a rough patch in dealing with the whole situation so I have sympathy for you. As a Christian, my God calls me to love people and that's what I do. The night I received that receipt I wasn't angry, I didn't hate you, and I still don't. I wish you the best of blessings in your future and I want to thank you for the impact you've had on my life. Through this experience I have learned that no matter the situation no matter the circumstance, unity and love is what matters and it will conquer all.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/01/red-lobster-waitress-jenkins -1 0000-tip/
 
2013-10-19 02:48:11 AM

Sid_6.7: Elegy: Regardless of who is telling the truth in the situation, there is one thing I do know: any server that posts an unredacted receipt on the Internet should be fired, no questions asked.

Because...?


Because a) it's not their call to make in the first place, as they are a server, not management, b) once the Internet hate machine ramps up, the consequences are quickly out of anyone's hands, resulting in a PR nightmare, and c) customers have a general expectation to privacy, which is violated when you make them the target of the Internet masses.

Not to mention its the height of farking stupidity, and any employee that stupid deserves to be fired; I certainly wouldn't want them working in my establishment.

Take 30 seconds in MSpaint, black out any CC information, names, and signatures, and you're good to go. But leaving the customer's information in there is practically a cry for retribution and vigilantism, and it's a dick move that generally will bring nothing but negative consequences on the restaurant itself.
 
2013-10-19 03:02:55 AM
Sorry for my skepticism, but I don't trust the handwriting expert hired by the accused's lawyer. Doesn't sound like there was scientific scrutiny and independent judgement
 
2013-10-19 03:05:31 AM

Elegy: customers have a general expectation to privacy,


there is no expectation of privacy in a public restaurant.
 
2013-10-19 03:06:04 AM
wsmv.images.worldnow.com

Can't do joined up writing; writes likes a child.
 
2013-10-19 03:06:59 AM
25.media.tumblr.com

"Oooooh why would I do such a thing, mah baybay?!"
 
2013-10-19 03:08:43 AM

dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


The only thing more dangerous than a racist is a Liberal shiatbag like you that drums up racial tension where there is none at all. You are abso-farking-lutely pathetic, troll.
 
2013-10-19 03:09:05 AM

dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


I don't know... I'm getting visions now of the guy leaving a cash tip, then some rotten teenager passes by the table and sees the tip and receipt out, pockets the money for himself and scrawls the note on the receipt so that the waitress won't come looking for where it went.
 
2013-10-19 03:09:46 AM
This is why I request non black wait staff
 
2013-10-19 03:15:41 AM

Fade2black: The only thing more dangerous than a racist is a Liberal shiatbag like you that drums up racial tension where there is none at all. You are abso-farking-lutely pathetic, troll.


after reading that avalanche of fact you just presented, I'm now convinced it was a hoax.
 
2013-10-19 03:16:17 AM

DanZero: It's an Opposing Views link. The bastion of accuracy

/fark gets kickbacks from these I'm sure


they give me endless porn pop ups on my iphone.... Can't read the article
 
2013-10-19 03:16:32 AM
Dnrtfa, but im i am guessing some racist attention whore.
 
2013-10-19 03:16:33 AM

dahmers love zombie: So, he cops to having written "None" in the "tip" columm (where the normal human would have written "-0-"), and amazingly, someone with similar handwriting came along right after him and wrote "N*gger" beneath it.  And his server just happened to be black.

Wow.  What are the odds?

/personally, I don't mind his getting all this shiat.  He intentionally wrote "none" for that server.  Fark him.    I'd say his intent was clear, even if the word wasn't written by him


No.

When you get a mandatory tip or "Service charge" added to your receipt, I very intentionally write "None" to make sure someone doesnt take matters into their own hands to assign a tip I didnt approve.
 
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