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(HelenaIR.com)   Giant mining corporation spends million buying 28 square miles of pristine wilderness adjacent to Glacier National Park, plans to fully exploit ground by setting it aside for wildlife conservation--wait, what?   (helenair.com) divider line 55
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2013-10-18 07:48:48 PM
After a prolonged campaign that reached as high as the White House, the provincial government banned mining and drilling in the Flathead River basin

Damn copycats.
 
2013-10-18 09:51:18 PM

fusillade762: After a prolonged campaign that reached as high as the White House, the provincial government banned mining and drilling in the Flathead River basin

Damn copycats.


That's the problem, wrong countries government. Good on teck though
 
2013-10-18 09:54:47 PM
I wonder what their motivation could be...
 
2013-10-18 10:00:23 PM
A conservation credit exchange,  this sounds like a job for me


I saw the crapload of credits made by my good friends and tennis partner algore on that carbon golbal warming thingy
 
2013-10-18 10:00:34 PM
False flag operation.
 
2013-10-18 10:01:57 PM
Seems legit, really.
Why wouldn't a company spend some of its profits on something that is purely innocuous and will not have direct benefit to it? Shareholders love that crap.
 
2013-10-18 10:06:30 PM
High powered bribery. How does it work again?
 
2013-10-18 10:06:38 PM

a particular individual: I wonder what their motivation could be...


Most likely "Look at us - we are the good guys, we are conserving all those trees and things..."

As far as the wilderness conservation goes 28 square miles is not much. Of course, every bit counts, but...
 
2013-10-18 10:11:10 PM
Complex tax breaks.
 
2013-10-18 10:11:36 PM
Maybe it is cheaper than having to pay for all the nature stock photography on their website and corporate collateral.

www.teck.com
 
2013-10-18 10:13:05 PM
Booooooooo! Big business is so bad!
 
2013-10-18 10:13:41 PM
Good. Usually they just torture the timbers and strip all the land and then write it all down as the progress of man.
 
2013-10-18 10:21:43 PM
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2013-10-18 10:24:42 PM
Giant  Canadian mining corporation.

Ah, that explains it.
 
2013-10-18 10:26:38 PM

a particular individual: I wonder what their motivation could be...


[shrug]

Maybe they're really good-hearted. Or maybe it's just good PR. Either way, who cares?

Of course, since it's in private hands, they can SAY they're going to conserve it, and then strip mine it all the way to the mantle if they want to, and nobody can stop them, if it turns out to have some kind of rare earth down deep later on.
 
2013-10-18 10:30:36 PM
Nobody is entirely evil.

Hitler was a vegetarian and very kind to animals. Humans, not so much.
 
2013-10-18 10:34:15 PM
That's a little under 5 miles by 6.  Not much at all in the scheme of things.
 
2013-10-18 10:35:07 PM
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2013-10-18 10:35:32 PM
They'll just wait a couple decades until the glaciers are gone and nobody wants anything to do with the gray, boulder-littered valleys left behind, and they'll have free reign.

/didn't put a lot of thought into that one, just popped into my cynical head
 
2013-10-18 10:37:04 PM
It'll make a nice tailings pond some day

/used to work in mining
 
2013-10-18 10:38:12 PM

Dhusk: Giant  Canadian mining corporation.

Ah, that explains it.



Yeah, that took about 3 seconds to see. Land NORTH of Glacier is all in Canada.

Good for the Canadians but that ain't happening here.
 
2013-10-18 10:40:09 PM
"spends million"?  million what?
 
2013-10-18 10:42:17 PM
This is mine, this is mine, all of this is mine.

Except that bit. I don't want that bit.
 
2013-10-18 10:43:40 PM

LordOfThePings: This is mine, this is mine, all of this is mine.

Except that bit. I don't want that bit.


Not sure how it's relevant, but I'm always up for a good "Red Dwarf" reference.
 
2013-10-18 10:47:03 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Not sure how it's relevant, but I'm always up for a good "Red Dwarf" reference.


Who nose?
 
2013-10-18 10:48:27 PM
I am betting there will be some kind of carbon credit scheme coming from this......it's like the Darkwoods conservancy nearby here which is an area that has been timber-pigged valley to alpine that they are selling carbon credits for.....

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   I live 5 miles and 2000' above the Teck metallurgical operations in Trail BC, they are pretty decent with their pollution control and their e-waste recycling is admirable....that said they are still driven by money and profits first and foremost....so as far as conservation goes.....
 
2013-10-18 10:49:20 PM

max_pooper: Good. Usually they just torture the timbers and strip all the land and then write it all down as the progress of man.


That's in Kentucky, this is Canada.
 
2013-10-18 10:56:47 PM
Oh, Tech and the Columbia river.... Some nice science health studies on people on the border in the U.S. who exquisite diseases from that water and winter air.

/Name that politicians who were bribed to make some environmental(both countries) charges go away....
 
2013-10-18 11:03:36 PM

Thingster: max_pooper: Good. Usually they just torture the timbers and strip all the land and then write it all down as the progress of man.

That's in Kentucky, this is Canada.


You mean that's Alberta, this is British Colombia.
 
2013-10-18 11:04:20 PM
Maybe they're buying it to preserve it now, but can't that sort of thing change pretty quickly once they own it? A new CEO, new board, new discoveries can easily change a company's mind or plans.

I guess it's good for now. I'm just not so sure about long term.
 
2013-10-18 11:04:39 PM

a particular individual: I wonder what their motivation could be...


A lot of the time when you need to get permitting to do mining on public land you have to get a permit which contains mitigation requirements. If the project is on land that has already been put aside for conservation purposes, like habitat for an endangered species, then those mitigation requirements will often require the mining company to compensate two acres for every acre destroyed.

Also tax purposes and what not.
 
2013-10-18 11:13:25 PM
i wonder why teck gets to buy land at $100 an acre :( i'm stuck paying orders of magnitude more than that!
 
2013-10-18 11:32:06 PM
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Teck has really made a name for himself since Real World Hawaii.

/my favorite part of that series was how everyone made a bid deal about ruthie's drinking and everyone i knew drank way more than her
 
2013-10-18 11:32:46 PM

doglover: Nobody is entirely evil.

Hitler was a vegetarian and very kind to animals. Humans, not so much.


He wasnt that great to many animals, and kinda kind to some humans

// overall he would be better deleted as soon as Stewie gives me the blueplans for the time machine.
 
2013-10-18 11:35:04 PM

Monoxide: i wonder why teck gets to buy land at $100 an acre :( i'm stuck paying orders of magnitude more than that!


USA bought some land way cheaper than that on an anniversary very close to today... at less than 2c an acre

(turned out to be great for mining, and you can see russia from your backyward from there)
 
2013-10-18 11:35:29 PM
They were inspired by vagina baby cake.
 
2013-10-18 11:50:53 PM

GreenSun: They were inspired by vagina baby cake.


DON'T.
 
2013-10-18 11:54:00 PM

New Age Redneck: I am betting there will be some kind of carbon credit scheme coming from this......it's like the Darkwoods conservancy nearby here which is an area that has been timber-pigged valley to alpine that they are selling carbon credits for.....

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   I live 5 miles and 2000' above the Teck metallurgical operations in Trail BC, they are pretty decent with their pollution control and their e-waste recycling is admirable....that said they are still driven by money and profits first and foremost....so as far as conservation goes.....


I did a summer stint at Teck-Cominco's R&D branch.  They were trying to develop a refining method that didn't involve smelters belching acid rain.  I don't know if the NDA I signed is still valid, but the basics were on their website.  From what I saw, the byproducts were water vapour and a metric ass-tonne of iron-laced gypsum.  The goal was to put the refinery on the mountain and avoid shipping raw ore that was 98% by mass worthless not-metal.
 
2013-10-19 12:05:51 AM

max_pooper: ... torture the timbers and strip all the land and then write it all down as the progress of man.


I read that to the tune of "Godzilla" by Blue Öyster Cult.
 
2013-10-19 12:27:31 AM
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2013-10-19 02:08:54 AM
Given what I'd guess they make anually, and the damage their mining operations do to the environment, $18 million is not a bad price for some really good publicity.

/all land has conservation potential
 
2013-10-19 02:28:37 AM
Because its not suitable for mining? (looks) ... because its not suitable for mining.
 
2013-10-19 02:57:11 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: max_pooper: ... torture the timbers and strip all the land and then write it all down as the progress of man.

I read that to the tune of "Godzilla" by Blue Öyster Cult.


Thanks. (opens youtube...)
 
2013-10-19 03:49:41 AM
Slartibartfaster:USA bought some land way cheaper than that on an anniversary very close to today... at less than 2c an acre

(turned out to be great for mining, and you can see russia from your backyward from there)


Kinda, except you're ignoring inflation. Take that into account, and Alaska was bought at 32.6¢ per acre in 2012 dollars.
 
2013-10-19 03:50:22 AM

SomeoneDumb: Maybe they're buying it to preserve it now, but can't that sort of thing change pretty quickly once they own it? A new CEO, new board, new discoveries can easily change a company's mind or plans.

I guess it's good for now. I'm just not so sure about long term.


The only trust I have for land stewardship is the public trust (and often not even that). Hopefully they will prove me wrong; GNP is in my top five favorite places of all time now.

100 Watt Walrus: They'll just wait a couple decades until the glaciers are gone and nobody wants anything to do with the gray, boulder-littered valleys left behind, and they'll have free reign.

/didn't put a lot of thought into that one, just popped into my cynical head


Glacier National Park is named so because it is glacially carved landscape, NOT because of the glaciers (which are in deed melting). Spent five days there in 2011, wish it had been more like a month (or well, forever). It was gorgeous and will likely remain so longer than any of us are alive.
 
2013-10-19 05:25:40 AM
28 square miles? And?

They're up to something.

28 square miles???
 
2013-10-19 06:14:07 AM
Property owned in another country for tax purposes that cannot be forced by imminent domain sale for failing to be productive?

Hell, NS owns a chunk of land like that up in Canada for the pleasure of its middle-upper management to go camping on.
 
2013-10-19 06:15:28 AM
So it had no oil on it ...
 
2013-10-19 06:30:05 AM
is it possible that the plan is to lock up resources in an attempt to increase prices of other resources?
no one else can use those mineral rights, which might have lowered metal costs ...
 
2013-10-19 07:04:54 AM
1. OK, good
2. 28 million acres sounds like a lot, but they're paying less than a dollar an acre
3. "not amenable to mining" explains why they won't be mining on it
4. They're spending $18 million on PR, which is chump change
5. Are there hard guarantees that they won't come up with some other "anything for a quick buck" to fark up the land?  Just buy the land and transfer the title to the government, with the deal being that it is national reserve

Nobody, literally nobody, trusts a mining company
 
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