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(Salon)   Decided to have an abortion did you? I guess you won't be wanting those other children you've already had, we'll be taking those from you   (salon.com) divider line 268
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2013-10-18 02:41:15 PM
That husband and his lawyer are scumbags.  They shouldn't give him custody on the grounds that he's a ghoulish son of a biatch.
 
2013-10-18 02:44:09 PM
I'm Ok with this.
 
2013-10-18 02:52:58 PM
She had a fractured finger, a hematoma, and a damaged eye socket and charges were dropped for domestic violence?

Wow.

Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?
 
2013-10-18 02:53:30 PM
Decided to have an abortion after holding your husband accountable and divorcing him for beating the crap out of you, did you?  I guess you won't be wanting those other children you've already had, that your husband voluntarily gave you custody of, we'll be taking them away from you.

FTFY.

The guy is a banker and a scumbag, if that's not redundant.  His lawyer is an even bigger scumbag.
 
2013-10-18 02:55:30 PM
When he has the kids, he leaves them with a nanny.

Sounds like he wants to take the kids away from her out of spite.
 
2013-10-18 03:03:48 PM
Money buys you expensive lawyers who are willing to stoop as low as is needed.
 
2013-10-18 03:12:47 PM
That is all kinds of messed up.
 
2013-10-18 03:14:07 PM
He claimed the black eye, fractured finger and hematoma his ex-wife suffered were not from abuse, but from botox injections.

Is a fractured finger a common side effect of botox injections?
 
2013-10-18 03:16:02 PM

Honest Bender: He claimed the black eye, fractured finger and hematoma his ex-wife suffered were not from abuse, but from botox injections.

Is a fractured finger a common side effect of botox injections?


It will be if I have to tell you to get botox one more time.
 
2013-10-18 03:58:32 PM

These divorce sob story articles are always one sided and need to be taken with a mountain of grains of salt.

However this in particular stands out:

Meanwhile, the court-appointed supervisor who must be present during Lisa's visitations with her children has consistently reported that Lisa is an excellent mother and that Manuel travels frequently, leaving his kids with a nanny.


If the court ordered her to have supervision to see her kids, she is either seriously deranged and a danger to them if left unsupervised, or her husband has slipped the judge a suitcase full of cash. That is an extraordinary requirement.
 
2013-10-18 04:01:05 PM
Also, if the only reason the court ordered supervised visitation is the post hoc abortion, that judge has such an inherent religious bias she needs to be recused.
 
2013-10-18 04:31:19 PM
Shoot the husband.
 
2013-10-18 05:34:31 PM

gilgigamesh: These divorce sob story articles are always one sided and need to be taken with a mountain of grains of salt.

However this in particular stands out:

Meanwhile, the court-appointed supervisor who must be present during Lisa's visitations with her children has consistently reported that Lisa is an excellent mother and that Manuel travels frequently, leaving his kids with a nanny.

If the court ordered her to have supervision to see her kids, she is either seriously deranged and a danger to them if left unsupervised, or her husband has slipped the judge a suitcase full of cash. That is an extraordinary requirement.


Considering the rest of the story, I'm inclined to believe cash.
 
2013-10-18 06:04:29 PM

Rincewind53: She had a fractured finger, a hematoma, and a damaged eye socket and charges were dropped for domestic violence?

Wow.

Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


Why would anyone do that?

He's clearly a weapons grade douchebag asshole.
In addition there are other cases of the court system being unfair to men.

There can be two things.
 
2013-10-18 06:07:54 PM

Rincewind53: Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


MRAs aren't concerned with men and how they might have been victimized by an unfair court system that arbitrary blames them.

MRAs are only concerned with the rights of misogynists and abusive douchebags, which coincidentally make up a large portion of their vocal population.
 
2013-10-18 06:09:33 PM

gilgigamesh: These divorce sob story articles are always one sided and need to be taken with a mountain of grains of salt.

However this in particular stands out:

Meanwhile, the court-appointed supervisor who must be present during Lisa's visitations with her children has consistently reported that Lisa is an excellent mother and that Manuel travels frequently, leaving his kids with a nanny.

If the court ordered her to have supervision to see her kids, she is either seriously deranged and a danger to them if left unsupervised, or her husband has slipped the judge a suitcase full of cash. That is an extraordinary requirement.


Not at all.

Depending on the age of the child, quite common.
 
2013-10-18 06:09:48 PM
While Lisa's abortion is relevant, according to Judge Sattler, Manuel's sexual behavior is apparently not. A forensic psychologist testified that Manuel had confessed to visiting massage parlors, where he paid for sex.

So...
abortion: legal, but we'll allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.
soliciting a prostitute: illegal, but we won't allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.

o_O
 
2013-10-18 06:10:24 PM
I can understand the husband in a way but those lawyers need to whumped on.
 
2013-10-18 06:10:36 PM

Rincewind53: She had a fractured finger, a hematoma, and a damaged eye socket and charges were dropped for domestic violence?

Wow.

Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


Yes, you are correct.  For multimillionaires, it is true the courts are biased in the man's favor.
 
2013-10-18 06:11:18 PM
When marry for $$$$, you earn every penny*.

*assuming since he's 20 years older
 
2013-10-18 06:12:31 PM

Lorelle: When he has the kids, he leaves them with a nanny.

Sounds like he wants to take the kids away from her out of spite.


He can't physically abuse her any longer. Mental abuse is all that's left.
 
2013-10-18 06:12:52 PM
WOW.

I think I know why Texas executes so many mentally retarded people - There's not much else to choose from.
 
2013-10-18 06:13:22 PM

ArcadianRefugee: While Lisa's abortion is relevant, according to Judge Sattler, Manuel's sexual behavior is apparently not. A forensic psychologist testified that Manuel had confessed to visiting massage parlors, where he paid for sex.

So...
abortion: legal, but we'll allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.
soliciting a prostitute: illegal, but we won't allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.

o_O


Women need to be punished for having sex.  Men get high fives.  Totally internally consistent ideology.  Not sure what your problem is.
 
2013-10-18 06:14:01 PM
He's a rich white guy, the judge is apparently anti-abortion, and its taking place in Texas.

She's pretty much boned.
 
2013-10-18 06:14:03 PM
Guy sounds like an ass. Hope this doesn't affect her custody.
 
2013-10-18 06:14:06 PM

Rincewind53: She had a fractured finger, a hematoma, and a damaged eye socket and charges were dropped for domestic violence?

Wow.

Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


Quit cherry-picking jackass
 
2013-10-18 06:14:59 PM

ikanreed: ArcadianRefugee: While Lisa's abortion is relevant, according to Judge Sattler, Manuel's sexual behavior is apparently not. A forensic psychologist testified that Manuel had confessed to visiting massage parlors, where he paid for sex.

So...
abortion: legal, but we'll allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.
soliciting a prostitute: illegal, but we won't allow it into the proceedings as evidence someone is unfit to parent.

o_O

Women need to be punished for having sex.  Men get high fives.  Totally internally consistent ideology.  Not sure what your problem is.


Exactly.
 
2013-10-18 06:15:04 PM

Broktun: Quit cherry-picking jackass


He's not.
 
2013-10-18 06:15:06 PM

Old enough to know better: He's a rich white guy, the judge is apparently anti-abortion, and its taking place in Texas.

She's pretty much boned.


Poor choice of words...
 
2013-10-18 06:15:37 PM
Trashy rich people who married for money problems.
 
2013-10-18 06:16:46 PM

mcreadyblue: gilgigamesh: These divorce sob story articles are always one sided and need to be taken with a mountain of grains of salt.

However this in particular stands out:

Meanwhile, the court-appointed supervisor who must be present during Lisa's visitations with her children has consistently reported that Lisa is an excellent mother and that Manuel travels frequently, leaving his kids with a nanny.

If the court ordered her to have supervision to see her kids, she is either seriously deranged and a danger to them if left unsupervised, or her husband has slipped the judge a suitcase full of cash. That is an extraordinary requirement.

Not at all.

Depending on the age of the child, quite common.


Same with in my jurisdiction.  Not uncommon at all.
 
2013-10-18 06:16:50 PM
Good
 
2013-10-18 06:17:39 PM
Did Manhattan moved to Texas and nobody told me?  Because I would think that would be news.
 
2013-10-18 06:17:39 PM

hardinparamedic: Broktun: Quit cherry-picking jackass

He's not.


One case where a "mother" gets the shaft, vs 1,000's of cases where men get the shaft?

That is cherry picking my friend.
 
2013-10-18 06:19:02 PM

hardinparamedic: Rincewind53: Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?

MRAs aren't concerned with men and how they might have been victimized by an unfair court system that arbitrary blames them.

MRAs are only concerned with the rights of misogynists and abusive douchebags, which coincidentally make up a large portion of their vocal population.


FTFY.
 
m00
2013-10-18 06:19:09 PM

Rincewind53: Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


The court system is extremely mean and unfair to men. But it's very forgiving to people who are rich and/or famous. In this case, bias towards money trumped bias against men.

With the amount of money he had, he'd have to be black man to just set things to neutral.
 
2013-10-18 06:20:16 PM
Can the case be appealed out of Texas?

My GED in Texas law was revoked after I developed a brain stem.
 
2013-10-18 06:20:28 PM
So...much...rage...inside...right...no w...

/seriously, fark this week
//girls getting raped, slut-shaming, abortion-shaming...
///what the fark is wrong with this goddamn country!?
//aren't we supposed to be trying to be BETTER than all those third-world hell-holes we keep invading?
/not finding new ways to put their actions to shame?
 
2013-10-18 06:20:44 PM
Holy heck! The judge has got to be on the take... And the father needs to be retro actively aborted. What a waste of oxygen.
 
2013-10-18 06:21:05 PM

Old enough to know better: He's a rich white guy, the judge is apparently anti-abortion, and its taking place in Texas.

She's pretty much boned.


This. You want to blame somebody don't blame his lawyers, blame him for being an abusive dick and the judge for allowing her abortion records to be permitted even though they have no bearing what so ever on the case.

And a question about the battery charges against the husband. Did she decide to drop the charges? Because usually if it is the courts that drop it the wording used would be that the charges were dismissed against him.
 
m00
2013-10-18 06:21:48 PM

mooseyfate: So...much...rage...inside...right...no w...

/seriously, fark this week
//girls getting raped, slut-shaming, abortion-shaming...
///what the fark is wrong with this goddamn country!?
//aren't we supposed to be trying to be BETTER than all those third-world hell-holes we keep invading?
/not finding new ways to put their actions to shame?


I need to know your political ideology before I agree or argue with you.
 
2013-10-18 06:22:02 PM

Broktun: One case where a "mother" gets the shaft, vs 1,000's of cases where men get the shaft?

That is cherry picking my friend.


Except it isn't. One can be concerned about the disproportionate and unfair court system in the United States towards fathers who actually care about their children, and not pretend that MRA is anything more than a white-knight movement for abusive, sexist pricks who think the adult world should mirror the "He Man Woman-haters club"
 
2013-10-18 06:22:07 PM
WHORE!!!
 
2013-10-18 06:22:47 PM
Do I have to post a PACE Picante ad before you droolers read the article?
 
2013-10-18 06:24:06 PM
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2013-10-18 06:24:32 PM

Rincewind53: She had a fractured finger, a hematoma, and a damaged eye socket and charges were dropped for domestic violence?

Wow.

Hey Men's Rights Activists, you want to read this story and tell me how the evil court system is so mean to men?


Why are you assuming he did it?  I guess a woman's word is enough evidence for you.
 
2013-10-18 06:25:03 PM

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Now, ladies and gentlemen, that is how you meme troll. A short, succinct and offensive use of a meme image guaranteed to get rage bites.

You could all learn something from this man.
 
2013-10-18 06:26:06 PM

JesusJuice: Why are you assuming he did it?  I guess a woman's word is enough evidence for you.


It sure as hell wasn't the botox.
 
2013-10-18 06:26:24 PM
At first I was all "fark her", because anyone that age who gets "accidentally" pregnant is a moran.

Then I was all "fark him", because he's obviously just trying to hurt her.

My final opinion is "Can I adopt those kids away from the mutual hot mess of those idiots?"

/The smacking around is of no consequence--every guy I know who went through a divorce was warned of the oncoming shiatstorm of fight-picking by the future ex--trying to bait guys into a fight is standard MO for divorcing chicks.
//A few of the chicks I know admitted to the advice from their lawyers, so fark off.
 
2013-10-18 06:26:53 PM
Alter said, "She's traumatized by the abortion I presume, or worse, if she wasn't traumatized by it."

I think you're legally allowed to start punching the lawyer in the face at this point.
 
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