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(The Tennessean)   This is what happens when they take away your Saturn plant: Spring Hill, TN holds prom in new Wal-Mart   (tennessean.com) divider line 50
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2013-10-18 02:53:29 PM
The town I grew up in was small enough that when we got a Super Wal-Mart, school was essentially shut down because parents took their students out of class to go see the grand opening. The town about ten miles away that still had a regular Wal-Mart sent a delegation to Wal-Mart HQ to beg for them to not shut down the store, since it accounted for something like 40% of the tax base in the town.
 
2013-10-18 02:54:48 PM
Don't know why, but that headline made me laugh.
 
2013-10-18 02:56:18 PM
Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-10-18 02:56:33 PM
That's a pretty well-lit Wal-Mart.  In every Wal-Mart I've been to I can barely see.  Except for that time I went to the one in Cumming, GA and I could see this woman's polka dot underwear through her white pants.  Her VPLs were so bad that it looked like she had a taco for a butt.

Then there was this guy with an incredible mullet, a mustache, and a spaghetti strap tank-top that said "Easy Does It".  It was like the most hipster outfit of all time except he wasn't being ironic.
 
2013-10-18 02:58:27 PM
It wasn't a prom it was some people dressing in prom outfits

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 to celebrate the new WalMart. Not something I'd do, but if they're having fun so be it.
 
2013-10-18 03:00:11 PM

Oakenshield: Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.


1/10. You might get a bite or two.
 
2013-10-18 03:02:15 PM

Oakenshield: Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.


.5/10  It's like your not even trying.
 
2013-10-18 03:02:59 PM
That is macabre.
 
2013-10-18 03:04:24 PM
That kid is just nine and already has dark circles under her eyes.
 
2013-10-18 03:04:45 PM

Oakenshield: Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.


Saturn was a shining example of the success that comes when unions are allowed to manage car manufacturing operations.  If only evil Rethuglikkkans hadn't kept the company from being successful, this prom could have been held at a high school.  Or at least a Target, which is nothing at all like WalMart, so I never say anything bad about it.

/Turtles all the way down.
 
2013-10-18 03:06:16 PM
Roger Penske wanted to buy Saturn, but GM wouldn't let him have the plant to, you know, actually make the cars.
 
2013-10-18 03:07:41 PM
That is one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Sad in an ironic sense.
 
Skr
2013-10-18 03:08:40 PM

So they actually DID have to dress up all fancy like to go to WalMart? Well I'll be




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2013-10-18 03:09:51 PM
Am I missing something?

Wiki has the plant as re-opened a couple years ago, albeit after an idle period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Hill_Manufacturing
 
2013-10-18 03:10:21 PM
After Saturn left, Spring Hill reverted back to the sad state it was before they had come. The local economy crashed overnight. Literally.

The company I worked for at the time was contracted by Saturn to provide 911 services for the town and plant, and had three units in a location which would not have been able to afford one. They pulled out the day after a contract between the town and the county EMS system was finalized.
 
2013-10-18 03:10:44 PM

uncleacid: That kid is just nine and already has dark circles under her eyes.


It doesn't help when her daddy, Darrel, and his other brother Darrel play banjos and cook crystal meth all night, as is their custom. Then she has to go to school with her sister-mom.
 
2013-10-18 03:11:22 PM
Penske probably didn't buy it because his file wasn't handled correctly.

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2013-10-18 03:12:01 PM
I used to live about a mile down the road from Spring Hill and this is pretty sad to see.  I left the area shortly after the plant closed.  Whats really sad is that before it closed, that area was really up-and-coming.  Lots of new houses being built, beautiful area.  New grocery stores, brand new shopping complex, etc.  Then when the plant closed everything ground to a halt.  That really sucks.
 
2013-10-18 03:13:31 PM
I don't get it.  GM still has a plant there, don't they?  And it doesn't sound like they have plans as of present to shut it down.
 
2013-10-18 03:14:28 PM

PunGent: Am I missing something?

Wiki has the plant as re-opened a couple years ago, albeit after an idle period:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Hill_Manufacturing


My dad's worked there for about 20 years - they've had plenty of re-tools and idles lately, but they are making the Equinox/Terrain now.

He used to live in Columbia, but moved out to nicer place in the sticks. He said you can definitely tell that Spring Hill and Columbia suffered a lot from layoffs and people who couldn't afford to wait to go back to work.
 
2013-10-18 03:14:38 PM
I owned a Saturn in the early days.  When GM let them run the place as they saw fit.  Then it became fully GM'ed and went to hell.  Sad to see what became of a promising concept.  And that early Saturn was bulletproof- I sold it with 140,000 miles and it was running great.  Wasn't an exciting car, but it got me where I needed to go.
 
2013-10-18 03:21:32 PM

Mad Scientist: I owned a Saturn in the early days.  When GM let them run the place as they saw fit.  Then it became fully GM'ed and went to hell.  Sad to see what became of a promising concept.  And that early Saturn was bulletproof- I sold it with 140,000 miles and it was running great.  Wasn't an exciting car, but it got me where I needed to go.


Something happened right around 2001 or so. I had a nice Saturn SC2 that I loved. Totaled it (entirely my fault, ran a red light, thankfully no one was hurt) and bought an identical one to replace it. The second one had far more mechanical problems than the first and at around the same time, the service at the dealership went to hell. I heard similar stories from other Saturn owners.
 
2013-10-18 03:23:00 PM
It's a Wal-Prom. Rachel Anderson, with son Noah, 2, and daughter Maggie, 9, joined the Facebook group called I Heart Spring Hill in celebrating the opening day of the new Wal-Mart in Spring Hill on Wednesday Oct. 16, 2013. The group dressed up in tuxedos and prom dresses to go shopping in hopes of helping to put a positive spin on the attire of shoppers who frequent the popular store.

I am sure Wal-Mart thanks you for the free publicity (unless Wallyworld funded this event to astroturf their company... again). I now despise your group, your town, and everyone who decided to go to this event in Prom clothing. I honestly don't care how people dress at Wal-Mart, all I care about is how the company is as a corporate citizen. With Wal-Mart's corporate policies of pushing suppliers to change their manufacturing to China to "save money", exploiting towns' wish for property tax dollars by pushing for a 5 - 10 year tax free term and then closing shop when that term has expired and moving to another town to do it again with another gullible town council, pushing the "race to the bottom" in wages and benefits for employees (story recently on how that might change soon, because Wal-Mart is finally realizing how they need people at all those registers they have), and (in relation to the race to the bottom) exploiting state and federal taxpayers by not giving enough benefits or wages that Wal-Mart employees that they have to go on the public dole for Medicade, Work for Welfare, and other tax moneys spent on Wal-Mart employees while the company makes billions in profits.
 
2013-10-18 03:23:06 PM
"The group dressed up in tuxedos and prom dresses to go shopping in hopes of helping to put a positive spin on the attire of shoppers who frequent the popular store."

Except that nowhere in those photos were any tuxedos in evidence.

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2013-10-18 03:23:53 PM
Whar da people of color?  Whar?   That Wally Mart fake.

/study it out
 
2013-10-18 03:24:47 PM

Mad Scientist: I owned a Saturn in the early days.  When GM let them run the place as they saw fit.  Then it became fully GM'ed and went to hell.  Sad to see what became of a promising concept.  And that early Saturn was bulletproof- I sold it with 140,000 miles and it was running great.  Wasn't an exciting car, but it got me where I needed to go.


I had my '97 SW2 for 250,002 miles. Same clutch. I loved that car to pieces. Not literally, I mean, nothing ever broke. I put brakes maybe 3 times. Muffler maybe twice. I take it back. The clutch went at 198,998. I limped the last 4 miles to the Fiat dealer, when I picked up my Fiat 500c.
 
2013-10-18 03:25:44 PM
I went through the whole slideshow, and what's going on here??? Did the group dress up in tuxedos and prom dresses to go shopping in hopes of helping to put a positive spin on the attire of shoppers who frequent the popular store? I'm not sure...
 
2013-10-18 03:29:15 PM
People smiling and looking happy, can't hate on that.
 
2013-10-18 03:31:10 PM

FLMountainMan: Oakenshield: Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.

Saturn was a shining example of the success that comes when unions are allowed to manage car manufacturing operations.


Nice try, but TN is a right-to-work state. Spring Hill "participated" in the UAW but they weren't part of the standing UAW/GM contract. Spring Hill workers got 80% of UAW wages BUT got profit-sharing. Workers weren't required to join the union. Steven Yokich, who became UAW president in '93, made it a priority to break the Saturn Hill plant.

This makes perfect sense - the primary goal of a union is to save union jobs.

He made his first move in the mid-90s when Saturn, more of a success than anticipated, needed additional factory space. Yokich persuaded GM to establish those new lines in Delaware, where the UAW had a standard contract. He then moved to defeat local leader Mike Bennett in the '99 union elections. In the 2004 contract, he was successful in making Spring Hill just another cog in the GM system. In 2007 most of Spring Hill was retooled for Chevy production for the 2009 model year - which was of course the last year for Saturn.

I've got no brief for or against unions. I've worked in union shops and non-union shops and been screwed over in both. Pretending that the UAW didn't do their damndest to kill Spring Hill is simply wrong. But, that's what unions do - protect union jobs and contracts.

/why, oh why, do I even respond to people who use terms like "Rethuglican" or "libtard"?
 
2013-10-18 03:35:46 PM
Lest subby's lead-in give the wrong impression, the former Saturn plant in Spring Hill TN is now run by GM, which recently added a second shift to its engine line.

Pitying and insulting the town and its people won't help them; it won't even make your pathetic life in your mom's basement any better.

And I hate Wal-Mart too but the 24-hour Supercenter is the closest 24-hour grocery/department store within easy walking distance of my apartment. And being too poor for a car in Lexington, KY rather limits my shopping options, as does being the kind of person who goes shopping at 3am (which at least helps keep some people employed).

And Lexington KY is lucky it's big enough, rich enough and populous enough to have more options than Wal-Mart. Many localities aren't.

The fact is unless you're willing to at least drastically change the US' economic/political system Wal-Mart haters will have to put up with it and America's "ordinary folks" will have to work and shop there. If y'all want to help in a small but significant way you could join the effort to organize a union by publicly supporting it and by telling the Walton's that improving their workers' wages, benefits and working conditions and even letting them workers unionize will bring them (more of) your business.

On a grander scale the USofA must move closer toward socialism and the people of China must be freed from its "Communist" dictators. Those capable of comprehending those efforts might do well to join them.

Or you could sit there consoling yourselves for your sad little lives by snarking at people who have it even worse. It is the easiest, stupidest and most "ironic" thing to do.
 
2013-10-18 03:37:32 PM

d_lebowski: Oakenshield:

Why does liberal Fark hate job-creating Walmart so much? Why is it "sad" to gather and celebrate community? You liberals sure do need a lesson on cognitive dissonance.

.5/10  It's like your not even trying.


.2/10: you're not helping.
 
2013-10-18 03:49:11 PM
I remember all the buzz around the first generation of Saturns. In Canada they were sold through Passport dealerships which were specially set-up to sell Isuzu/Saab/Saturn (and some rebadged Daewoos). At the time I owned Isuzus, so I naturally spent a LOT of time hanging around the service department and talking with the service manager.  According to him, once they sold a Saturn, they never saw it again except for the occasional service. They quickly gained a reputation as reliable cars at a time when not every GM product could make that claim. To be fair, though, as cars, they were pretty mediocre with noisy, buzzy engines, bland interiors and very average handling and braking. And, while the bodies didn't rust, the same could not be said of the rest of the car. Unexciting cars, but the best quality GM had on offer in North America at the time, which might be saying something.

The very best cars to have worn Saturn badges were the last generation, like the Astra. Unfortunately for the undoubtedly good folk of Spring Hill, those cars were rebadged Opels imported from Germany, a country where even GM and Ford have always managed to manufacture decent cars.
 
2013-10-18 03:53:36 PM

FlyersFanTN: Then when the plant closed everything ground to a halt.


I don't think you've been there recently. Spring Hill is overgrown with new stores and restaurants. It is practically an extension of Franklin.
 
2013-10-18 03:56:02 PM
Well, at least there were other Xboxes there to dance with...

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2013-10-18 04:16:25 PM
Why the hate?  Looks like folks are happy and having a good time.  Hell I bet the dinner at the McDonalds inside where awesome too.
 
2013-10-18 04:21:27 PM

skinnycatullus: FlyersFanTN: Then when the plant closed everything ground to a halt.

I don't think you've been there recently. Spring Hill is overgrown with new stores and restaurants. It is practically an extension of Franklin.


Precisely. I live here and while yes, the initial closure of the Spring Hill plant caused a lot of chaos in the area, it has rebounded quite well. A lot of people lost their tails on houses, but that's primarily because they bought them during the bubble. If they had bought them for what they were worth, they could have continued living in them.

The flip side of the foreclosure market is that it allowed a LOT of people to move to Spring Hill, buy and maintain houses and then continue to drive the tax income of the area. Everywhere you look around here there are new houses and developments being built, new stores going in. To say we're doing OK would be a pretty huge understatement.

/still hate Walmart, still won't shop there
//slashies are fun
 
2013-10-18 04:25:54 PM
I owned three different Saturns.  Loved two of them - one was a really tricked-out showroom model, fully loaded and then some. The Ion was a POS, though.
 
2013-10-18 04:27:02 PM
Oh, and Walmart is not so bad, either.  They have an abundance of useful goods at affordable prices.
 
2013-10-18 04:35:02 PM
Spring Hill is booming again, there are almost 60,000 people in a town that had 900 before the Saturn plant. The traffice there at rush hour is worse than downtown Nashville.
 
2013-10-18 04:46:33 PM
I live north of Nashville and the traffic to Brentwood isn't nearly as bad as the traffic coming up from Spring Hill. Crazy growth down there.
 
2013-10-18 04:53:27 PM

SirEattonHogg: I don't get it.  GM still has a plant there, don't they?  And it doesn't sound like they have plans as of present to shut it down.


It's the same affect as in Flint.  Flint still has some GM factories, but because GM has cut way back and reduced their work force, it has sent Flint on a downward slide.  There is a big difference when a whole plant closes and not only the employees are laid off, but so are the service workers who fed, home repaired, car repaired and dressed those car workers.
 
2013-10-18 05:07:26 PM
Obese white people hold prom at Walmart. Cool story.
 
2013-10-18 05:13:52 PM
If you uppity liberals have a problem with this go open a Target there.
 
2013-10-18 05:48:30 PM

AlgertMan: If you uppity liberals have a problem with this go open a Target there.


I think you mean an "Urban Outfitters".
 
2013-10-18 05:58:13 PM
I still drive my 2002 Saturn SL2. It's got over 238,000 miles on it and runs great. I'll be sad when I eventually move on to another vehicle.
 
2013-10-18 06:05:26 PM

cranched: The traffice there at rush hour is worse than downtown Nashville.


As someone who left Vanderbilt University at 5pm driving back to Memphis, I'd disagree with your claim.
 
2013-10-18 06:42:19 PM
lol poor uneducated southerns, they're the worst
 
2013-10-18 06:46:44 PM
"It's cool to belittle other people because of the way they look and then turn right around and complain about people who belittle people based on how they look."   -Typical Farker
 
2013-10-18 07:58:25 PM
I had a 91 Saturn SL2. When it was only a few weeks old I drove into Pittsburgh and came back out the newly opened HOV lane from the entrance at the Civic Arena. I pegged the needle going across the Veteran's bridge. The engine stalled and I had to get it towed to the Saturn dealer. It seems the computer was set to self destruct if you went faster than the speedometer could read. After I got it back, I did it again and was glad to find the new computer wasn't booby-trapped like the original. Driving outbound on the HOV lane on a weekend is like driving on a "closed course" you see in car commercial, there are no other cars on the road.
 
2013-10-19 07:16:32 AM
This is what happens when Farkers drink too much. Stupid headline is submitted and gets greenlit.
 
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