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(Gothamist)   "Banksy may be the hero Gotham deserves, but he's not the one it needs right now, or something, according to the NYPD, which is making his arrest a top priority"   (gothamist.com) divider line 159
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2013-10-18 03:23:51 PM

Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.


Bootlicker = anti-cop version of n****er lover.
 
2013-10-18 03:24:46 PM

Gunny Highway: The ICA in Boston recently featured the art of Barry McGee.  Really interesting exhibit and cool stuff.


Did they have the harp and the dirty red bandana?
 
2013-10-18 03:26:06 PM

Latinwolf: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker = anti-cop version of n****er lover.


worldofpopculture.com
 
2013-10-18 03:26:58 PM
Caught! I've obtained this exclusive GIF of the police apprehending him...

Link

Sorry it had to be a link instead of posting the GIF but Fark has this repressive policy of art over a certain arbitrary Kb size dictated by the man being posted directly on their walls.

/Farking Fark fascists!
 
2013-10-18 03:27:55 PM

doubled99: There was no caption for the photo. Is that him?


Most likely.  There are other photos online rumored to be him, and they look just like the guy in article.   But, I wouldn't bet against the possibility that the guy in the photographs is a long-time assistant.
 
2013-10-18 03:29:23 PM

dittybopper: Gunny Highway: The ICA in Boston recently featured the art of Barry McGee.  Really interesting exhibit and cool stuff.

Did they have the harp and the dirty red bandana?


No!  There are a giant sculpture made of televisions when you walked in, a cool "wave wall" featuring his work, some crude machines that were made to took like taggers spraying the walls. the bottles with the faces, and lots of little sketches from notebooks and pads.

It was a really fun day.  I would definitely go see his work again.
 
2013-10-18 03:29:48 PM

naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.


If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.
 
2013-10-18 03:32:10 PM
I think this is awesome. We're here in the spying/internet age, and no one knows who he is. His work is intelligent and accurate, and no one knows who he is. How does that even happen??

And it's beyond retarded that the cops are trying to "DERR SHUT 'IM DOWN". Are they afraid the peasants will 'wake up' or something?

Also, how does this guy make money? Wikipedia tells me he has an agent?? For what? How does he pay his crew? Social activism alone doesn't put food in the mouth.
 
2013-10-18 03:35:40 PM

Kensey: Maybe building owners could post "art here plz" signs? Or would that just ruin it altogether?


Actually Stephen Colbert ran a piece where he posted photos of the wall outside his "building" with a picture frame that said Art Here.  LOL
 
2013-10-18 03:37:45 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.


No, but I'd give Banksy my address. My house would look much nicer with one of his works on it.

And it would really annoy my neighbours.
 
2013-10-18 03:38:08 PM

dittybopper: ecause of a few violations of the Fark policy about not publishing personal information, Drew has implemented a filter that blocks out anything that looks like an address, replacing it with stars. Here is my home address:

*** ********** **
**********, ** ****

It also works with traditionally formatted phone numbers:

(***) ***-****

Pretty cool, huh? Try it yourself.


123 Fake Street
Faketown, IL 12345

Huh.
 
2013-10-18 03:41:44 PM
This all amuses me.

We've got a world where cruelty and violence by all sides of civilization is rampant. We have governments, religions, businesses, collectives, and individuals of every sort actively acting to oppress, exploit, and/or destroy their fellow humans. We have people not directly involved cheering them on. We have rape, murder, theft, and abuse, and misuse of power every single day.

And yet some of you come here and spend such spiteful vitriol on a graffiti artist.

Don't you have better things to be indignant about? Haven't you been looking at the behavior of your species? Is your sense of proportion so badly hobbled? Is your outrage so grievously misdirected?

Poor sad, angry, little monkeys. You have so much more dangerous things to be worried about.
 
2013-10-18 03:43:17 PM

jocutus: dittybopper: ecause of a few violations of the Fark policy about not publishing personal information, Drew has implemented a filter that blocks out anything that looks like an address, replacing it with stars. Here is my home address:

*** ********** **
**********, ** ****

It also works with traditionally formatted phone numbers:

(***) ***-****

Pretty cool, huh? Try it yourself.

*** **** ******
********, ** *****

Huh.


Neat how that works, isn't it?

One caveat:  It may appear to *YOU* because it's *YOUR* address (or more properly, the address you typed in).  But the rest of us can't see it.
 
2013-10-18 03:43:38 PM

Latinwolf: Painting on someone's without their permission, that's vandalism.



As said towards the beginning of this thread, Banksy's vandalism is the equivalent of someone throwing a 20lb gold ingot through your window pane. Yeah, your property was damaged, but are you really unhappy about it?

I assume the neighbors complaining about the broken window are just annoyed that it wasn't theirs that had the gold thrown through it.
 
2013-10-18 03:44:11 PM

Brosef Stalin: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

I think it's pretty funny how you refer to his artwork as damaging and destroying property given how much his art sells for and the value it would potentially add to its location so it's kinda the complete opposite thing. Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.


so, what if it was the same art, but not worth a dime.  No one wanted to buy it?  Would it be vandalism then, or still an artistic work?
 
2013-10-18 03:45:37 PM
At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target! I, for one, feel safer already with these terrible graffiti artists locked up.
 
2013-10-18 03:47:19 PM

AgentPothead: At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target! I, for one, feel safer already with these terrible graffiti artists locked up.


At last, then, our long nightmare will be over.
 
2013-10-18 03:47:49 PM

tricycleracer: There's some pretty cool murals in my town, but they were done with permission:

[crpbayarea.org image 607x403]
[www.tampabay.com image 746x497]
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x427]


I think that is the point and its one I agree with. Street art can be amazing and beautiful if an building owner wants to offer up his building for it, then proceed with blessings. If you do this without permission in a faux attempt to be edgy you are no different than any suburban wannabe that paints a phallus on a stop sign.

Banksy  probably should be arrested.
 
2013-10-18 03:49:52 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.

I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.

Where is your address?
You might like my art too.


Just for the record, your a farking tool.
 
2013-10-18 03:54:01 PM

ManateeGag: Brosef Stalin: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

I think it's pretty funny how you refer to his artwork as damaging and destroying property given how much his art sells for and the value it would potentially add to its location so it's kinda the complete opposite thing. Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.

so, what if it was the same art, but not worth a dime.  No one wanted to buy it?  Would it be vandalism then, or still an artistic work?


It's still vandalism when Banksy does it. It's just vandalism that you can sell for a whole lot of money. The question of whether it is art or not is separate, and up to the beholder.
 
2013-10-18 03:58:16 PM
Well apparently he was in Chelsea a moment ago because some woman felt the need to tell me and my coworkers that BANKSY IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY IT'S A COMPLETE MOB SCENE!....


Anywayyyyyy.....*continuing conversation that she interrupted*
 
2013-10-18 04:05:38 PM
dittybopper, you so crazy :-)
 
2013-10-18 04:07:22 PM
I find the popularity of Banksy astounding. He is no different than your typical run-of-the-mill rebellious college student who spray paints political and social commentary images around campus - yet his reputation is such that anything he does, has an elevated status, not for what it is but because of his name. If Picasso pooped on the floor, it would still be considered art because hey, it is a Picasso. Art is one of the very few things where once you have made a name for yourself, pretty much anything you do has value to it despite its quality and isn't critiqued so much piece-by-piece, but reputation of the artist.

This just goes to show you that reputation far exceeds technical ability or artistic prowess.
 
2013-10-18 04:07:38 PM
I love these Banksy threads since he causes so many farkers to blow a gasket. Last night's thread had clown shoes going full ITG blood-lust warrior over some guy named "werm". Begoggle is providing the lulz in this thread.
 
2013-10-18 04:08:03 PM

ikanreed: Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?

When that property is harming the public good.


Which is basically never.

Alphakronik: Hopefully you will cite an example of someone complaining about receiving a free $500,000 piece of art on their property they can rightfully sell if they chose to? I'm sure you can produce one of those?


Talk to the police department. They've got enough complaints to satisfy you.

And why wouldn't they? The "art" you mention cannot be sold except as part of the property, and even in the rare cases where it has significant value in its own right, it is seldom if ever enough to offset the amount by which it drags down the property's value overall.
 
2013-10-18 04:10:38 PM

CJHardin: naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.

If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.


It could be one guy cutting the stencils and assistants, friends, or whomever doing the stencils.  I can't remember where I read this theory, but I want to remember reading that too many Banksy murals had shown up in places too far apart for him to physically be in both places at once.
 
2013-10-18 04:12:24 PM
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-10-18 04:17:25 PM
"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am."

Translation: "My billionaire buddies and I buy paintings as status symbols and to pretend that just because we're rich we're sophisticated."

Not a particular fan of Banksy, but fark Bloomberg.

/a few years back there was an "exhibition" of Banksy's work at the town hall in Bristol (where Banksy is from). Some intrepid Bristolian unartisically scrawled "Wanksy" in black spray paint on the town hall wall.
 
2013-10-18 04:18:06 PM

dittybopper: GBB: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?

You know who really knew how to handle vandals?   The Romans.


People called Romanes, they go, the house?
 
2013-10-18 04:18:40 PM
It's not the graffiti they're bothered about, it's the loss of city and state taxes because they're not getting a cut of his sales.

Or not.  I dunno.  Money just seems the most obvious.
 
2013-10-18 04:19:10 PM

bongon247: CJHardin: naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.

If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.

It could be one guy cutting the stencils and assistants, friends, or whomever doing the stencils.  I can't remember where I read this theory, but I want to remember reading that too many Banksy murals had shown up in places too far apart for him to physically be in both places at once.


You would be surprised how many well-known artists do little of their own work. I did a collaboration project with a guy (his work was displayed in some popular museums) had graduate students prime his canvas, tape it off, some did underpainting for him, and some did most of the paintings themselves. I was absolutely shocked to find out how little he actually did. Of course, it was an honor to be working in his studio because who he was, and he would pay the "associates" but they had zero name recognition, his name was on the piece. Now, you would expect this from the fashion industry, but fine art? It is nothing but a brand.
 
2013-10-18 04:22:26 PM

germ78: over some guy named "werm"


Is that the same guy that filled in for Joe Biden?
 
2013-10-18 04:23:57 PM

WhoGAS: It's not the graffiti they're bothered about, it's the loss of city and state taxes because they're not getting a cut of his sales.

Or not.  I dunno.  Money just seems the most obvious.


It sets a precedent that illegal graffiti is ok sometimes.
 
2013-10-18 04:26:11 PM

the money is in the banana stand: It sets a precedent that illegal graffiti is ok sometimes.


Graffiti? In New York City? Why that's unheard of! We wouldn't want to set a precedent!
 
2013-10-18 04:30:50 PM
I learned today that it's 'Banksy', not 'Bansky'.

I'm gonna keep calling him Bansky.
 
2013-10-18 04:34:05 PM
timujin: I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.

On one hand, I get the 'breaking my window with a gold brick' joke.

On the other hand, it's my door, and whether I profit from it or not is irrelevant. You had no right to do anything to it and broke the law. Further, yes, it's high-profile, and specifically, it's a high-profile statement that you can get away with things. Cracking down on that perception is actually pretty sensible and is in line with some of the tactics the city adopted that got crime down so low in the first place.

/ Maybe that door had sentimental value and you ruined it.
 
2013-10-18 04:39:26 PM
Or, you could just paint over it or sand blast it off and forget calling the cops.
 
2013-10-18 04:58:11 PM

freewill: timujin: I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.

On one hand, I get the 'breaking my window with a gold brick' joke.

On the other hand, it's my door, and whether I profit from it or not is irrelevant. You had no right to do anything to it and broke the law. Further, yes, it's high-profile, and specifically, it's a high-profile statement that you can get away with things. Cracking down on that perception is actually pretty sensible and is in line with some of the tactics the city adopted that got crime down so low in the first place.

/ Maybe that door had sentimental value and you ruined it.


I guess the difference here is that you're talking in "what ifs" and "might bes" and I'm talking about things that actually happen, that is, people who might have a sentimental attachment to a door versus what happens any time the guy tags something that can be removed and sold.  Hell, there was one a couple of weeks ago where the building owner cut out a chunk of wall so he could sell it.  And while there may be some people who have complained, there are no greater number for Banksy than any other tagger, so the whole "We're agonna git him!" push from the mayor is, I feel, a misuse of resources.
 
2013-10-18 04:59:01 PM

LeroyBourne: Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.


A full wall of Keystone Kops chasing an artist, perhaps.
 
2013-10-18 05:14:54 PM
Good luck, cops.
 
2013-10-18 05:18:19 PM
some neat pieces of art there.
 
2013-10-18 05:31:44 PM

sure haven't: germ78: over some guy named "werm"

Is that the same guy that filled in for Joe Biden?


I think so. Joe should really limit those long drug benders that cause him to wake up naked in Tijuana.
 
2013-10-18 05:49:33 PM
I learned a lot about Werm yesterday.
 
2013-10-18 06:33:02 PM

Slaxl: "Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that's exactly what the law says."

Haha, that's the best self-contradictory ramble by a politician I've heard today.


Not self-contradictory at all. Allow me clarify:

"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but even if so, it should not be permitted because it is being done to someone else's property without their permission. And I think that's exactly what the law says. Actually, that's exactly what the law says; it's called vandalism."

Clearer?
 
2013-10-18 06:35:02 PM

AgentPothead: At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target!


Another criminal? Imagine that!
 
2013-10-18 07:31:14 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: That asshole really thinks the city is his fiefdom.


But enough about Bloomberg.
 
2013-10-18 07:44:41 PM
If this is top priority, there goes my perception of NYC as a rough, tough, and piss-on-your-boot kinda city.

Think Chicago would give a flying frak about this?
 
2013-10-18 08:15:18 PM
My guess: Bloomberg flipped a coin and it came up "bad side."  Or "inept side".
 
2013-10-18 08:33:39 PM
Don't New York cops have better things to do than to make a graffiti artist the top priority?
 
2013-10-18 08:53:31 PM
Good thing they don't have any rapes or murders to solve.
 
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