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(Gothamist)   "Banksy may be the hero Gotham deserves, but he's not the one it needs right now, or something, according to the NYPD, which is making his arrest a top priority"   (gothamist.com) divider line 159
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2013-10-18 02:11:08 PM
"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that's exactly what the law says."

Haha, that's the best self-contradictory ramble by a politician I've heard today.
 
2013-10-18 02:11:37 PM
Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.
 
2013-10-18 02:15:22 PM
Bloomberg spoke out against him and now the NYPD are hunting for him. Is anyone surprised. I sure as hell am not.

That asshole really thinks the city is his fiefdom.
 
2013-10-18 02:16:05 PM
Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.
 
2013-10-18 02:16:34 PM
Can someone post the GOOD cat?
 
2013-10-18 02:17:33 PM
 There was no caption for the photo. Is that him?
 
2013-10-18 02:19:06 PM
Generally I have little time for garden-variety taggers and "muralists" but there does seem to be something a bit above the ordinary in Banksy's stuff.  It may be illegal but I would still call it art.

Maybe building owners could post "art here plz" signs?  Or would that just ruin it altogether?
 
2013-10-18 02:19:54 PM
Yippeeee!! More publicity!!!
 
2013-10-18 02:19:56 PM
Someone broke my window by throwing a solid gold brick through it!
 
2013-10-18 02:20:43 PM
Boxxy should be brought to justice.
 
2013-10-18 02:20:53 PM
Well, if they can catch him, the quality of prison tattoos will go up.
 
2013-10-18 02:21:32 PM
Zimmerman flew and tyler knew!!
 
2013-10-18 02:22:22 PM
 
2013-10-18 02:22:48 PM
TURK TURK TURK TURK
 
2013-10-18 02:23:19 PM

timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.


you said 'rape' twice.
 
2013-10-18 02:23:23 PM

Spartapuss: Someone broke my window by throwing a solid gold brick through it!


and I lol'd
 
2013-10-18 02:24:03 PM
Made me think of this

tribwpix.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-18 02:25:18 PM
Watch him get shot to death.
 
GBB
2013-10-18 02:26:20 PM

timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.


I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?
 
2013-10-18 02:27:53 PM

timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.


Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?
 
2013-10-18 02:28:36 PM

Slaxl: "Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that's exactly what the law says."

Haha, that's the best self-contradictory ramble by a politician I've heard today.


Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
 
2013-10-18 02:28:59 PM
I think that the most appropriate response for Banksy is to put a mural of him being arrested near the police substations.  All of them.
 
2013-10-18 02:30:28 PM

Kensey: Generally I have little time for garden-variety taggers and "muralists" but there does seem to be something a bit above the ordinary in Banksy's stuff.  It may be illegal but I would still call it art.

Maybe building owners could post "art here plz" signs?  Or would that just ruin it altogether?


What the heck.  Let's try it.  If it all goes sideways (and it likely would), you just whitewash the whole mess and pretend it never happened.
 
2013-10-18 02:30:39 PM
www.banksycanvasprints.com

fark you Bloomberg.
 
2013-10-18 02:30:47 PM
mindofthegeek.com

Graffiti is for pussies.
 
2013-10-18 02:30:54 PM

GBB: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?


You know who really knew how to handle vandals?   The Romans.
 
2013-10-18 02:31:23 PM

Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?


When that property is harming the public good.

//Pro ad-defacement
 
2013-10-18 02:31:53 PM
Should I support vandalism or not? I guess I'll wait to see how the majority of Farkers feel before offering an opinion.

In the meantime, here's Banksy's picture:

 img.fark.net
 
2013-10-18 02:32:22 PM
There's some pretty cool murals in my town, but they were done with permission:

crpbayarea.org
www.tampabay.com
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-10-18 02:32:22 PM

GBB: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?


I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.
 
2013-10-18 02:34:10 PM

tricycleracer: There's some pretty cool murals in my town, but they were done with permission:

[crpbayarea.org image 607x403]
[www.tampabay.com image 746x497]
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x427]


That's pretty astonishing.  Someone is actually riding a segway.  Even the dog seems puzzled.
 
2013-10-18 02:34:39 PM
"Art is anything you can get away with."  ~  Marshall McLuhan (often misattributed to Andy Warhol)
 
2013-10-18 02:35:23 PM
For those that are interested (and don't already know about this), the blog Melrose & Fairfax (occasional NSFW language) has had the best coverage of the Banksy New York residency out of any site I've seen.  They've been documenting the works, even posting pics of some of them before Banksy's site does, as well as showing the interactions between the public & the artworks (often by fame-jocking attention-whores & haters).  Kind of interesting, and well-worth a bookmark for folks that dig street art.
 
2013-10-18 02:35:24 PM

LeroyBourne: Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-18 02:35:30 PM

fireclown: tricycleracer: There's some pretty cool murals in my town, but they were done with permission:

[crpbayarea.org image 607x403]
[www.tampabay.com image 746x497]
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x427]

That's pretty astonishing.  Someone is actually riding a segway.  Even the dog seems puzzled.


In St. Pete, if you're old and can still stand, you get a Segway instead of a Hoveround.
 
2013-10-18 02:35:56 PM
Who is this Art guy everyone is talking about? And why is a bank painting in his name?
 
2013-10-18 02:36:18 PM
www.streetartutopia.com
 
2013-10-18 02:37:43 PM

FatherChaos: [mindofthegeek.com image 800x446]

Graffiti is for pussies.


Don't tell that to Batsy

www1.pcmag.com

at least Banksy's art doesn't blow holes in the wall.
 
2013-10-18 02:38:37 PM

timujin: GBB: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?

I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.


Someone commented on a street art blog that if the folks running NYC were intelligent, they'd embrace Banksy's project, as it's bringing thousands of extra tourist dollars to NYC this month.  The person mentioned that they traveled across the country and spent thousands on food, lodging, etc. while there ONLY BECAUSE of Banksy's project.
 
2013-10-18 02:39:16 PM
Does he plan on having the NYPD brutalise Banksy in a bathroom with batons or does he have to be black for that? Perhaps they are assuming him to be black instead of your regular wobbly toothed Brit with skin like uncooked bread dough.
 
2013-10-18 02:40:42 PM
There are plenty of building owners that would give Banksy carte blanche, but that wouldn't be as "edgy",  and he'd lose all his "cred", because he's dangerous or something.

/rolls eyes
 
2013-10-18 02:40:56 PM
I'm not in doubt of his art skills and the ability to make a humorous point,but buy your own canvas dude. No one wants gawkers hanging out taking pictures and attracting no-talent taggers getting in on the act.
 
2013-10-18 02:41:24 PM
Only sissies do things after they've gotten permission
 
2013-10-18 02:43:11 PM
I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.
 
2013-10-18 02:46:42 PM

Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.


Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.
 
2013-10-18 02:47:14 PM
One time I asked Brasky to dress up as Santa for a Christmas party I was having for my children. Anyway, Brasky shows up as Santa, says I've got goodies for you kids. He reaches into his bag and proceeds to hand out scrap metal and cigarettes to them. Then he takes off his beard and says There's no Santa cause I ate him!

That Brasky guy needs to be locked up and I for one support the NYPD in this endeavor.
 
2013-10-18 02:47:28 PM
Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.
 
2013-10-18 02:47:36 PM

oh_please: There are plenty of building owners that would give Banksy carte blanche, but that wouldn't be as "edgy",  and he'd lose all his "cred", because he's dangerous or something.

/rolls eyes


It might be worth trying just to see how many imposters show up.

/I am Sparticus!
 
2013-10-18 02:47:39 PM

LeroyBourne: Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.


So destruction of other people's property is OK with you?
 
2013-10-18 02:47:58 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.


If you buy his house, why would he care what you paint on it?
 
2013-10-18 02:48:20 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.


I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.
 
2013-10-18 02:48:21 PM

Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.


And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.
 
2013-10-18 02:48:42 PM

SubBass49: For those that are interested (and don't already know about this), the blog Melrose & Fairfax (occasional NSFW language) has had the best coverage of the Banksy New York residency out of any site I've seen.  They've been documenting the works, even posting pics of some of them before Banksy's site does, as well as showing the interactions between the public & the artworks (often by fame-jocking attention-whores & haters).  Kind of interesting, and well-worth a bookmark for folks that dig street art.


Cool, thanks.
 
2013-10-18 02:48:46 PM
i half wonder if it's a clever marketing ploy on bansky's behalf.
 
2013-10-18 02:48:52 PM

Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?



Hopefully you will cite an example of someone complaining about receiving a free $500,000 piece of art on their property they can rightfully sell if they chose to?  I'm sure you can produce one of those?
 
2013-10-18 02:48:56 PM

Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.

I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.


Where is your address?
You might like my art too.
 
2013-10-18 02:49:27 PM
"Graffiti does ruin people's property and it's a sign of decay and loss of control"

Is there any example of a case where his graffiti was done in a place that wasn't already in a state of decay?  It's not like he's doing it on some brand spanking new white marble government building.  Most of the stuff I've seen have been on walls and building that are already crumbling to peices through neglect and age.
 
2013-10-18 02:49:41 PM

tb tibbles: I'm not in doubt of his art skills and the ability to make a humorous point,but buy your own canvas dude. No one wants gawkers hanging out taking pictures and attracting no-talent taggers getting in on the act.


The locations chosen are integral to what he does.
 
2013-10-18 02:50:08 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.


Let's see what happens, bootlicker.
 
2013-10-18 02:50:09 PM

flynn80: "Graffiti does ruin people's property and it's a sign of decay and loss of control"

Is there any example of a case where his graffiti was done in a place that wasn't already in a state of decay?  It's not like he's doing it on some brand spanking new white marble government building.  Most of the stuff I've seen have been on walls and building that are already crumbling to peices through neglect and age.


Whatever lies you have to tell yourself to make it OK in your mind, I guess.
 
2013-10-18 02:50:56 PM
If graffiti art stops being illegal and dangerous, it's going to stop being what it is.  Go ahead and turn it into the hipster version of scrapbooking and see how you like it then.
 
2013-10-18 02:51:10 PM
>which is making his arrest a top priority"

So all other crime in NYC is solved, then?
 
2013-10-18 02:51:41 PM

Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.


Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS
 
2013-10-18 02:52:16 PM
weknowmemes.com
 
2013-10-18 02:52:52 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS


Apparently, they are looking for Banksy.
 
2013-10-18 02:53:20 PM

bubo_sibiricus: >which is making his arrest a top priority"

So all other crime in NYC is solved, then?


So all crimes must be addressed in order?
So since all murders are not solved, ignore all other crime?
You sound like those people who hate that we spend money on NASA because there are other problems on Earth.
 
2013-10-18 02:54:15 PM

Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

Apparently, they are looking for Banksy.


Good one?  HURP DURP
 
2013-10-18 02:54:22 PM

flynn80: It's not like he's doing it on some brand spanking new white marble government building.


You might not want to use that as an example, because it makes it sound like you think those are the only buildings that shouldn't be damaged.
 
2013-10-18 02:54:52 PM

Begoggle: bubo_sibiricus: >which is making his arrest a top priority"

So all other crime in NYC is solved, then?

So all crimes must be addressed in order?
So since all murders are not solved, ignore all other crime?
You sound like those people who hate that we spend money on NASA because there are other problems on Earth.


And you sound like you'd be real fun at a party.
 
2013-10-18 02:55:12 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

Apparently, they are looking for Banksy.

Good one?  HURP DURP


Hurp durp indeed.
 
2013-10-18 02:55:50 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS


If Banksy wants to put something on the wall of my house that I can sell for over a million bucks then he's more than welcome to.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280431/Banksy-Slave-Labour- mu ral-torn-London-wall-US-art-auction-website-450k.html
 
2013-10-18 02:57:25 PM

Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.


So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"
 
2013-10-18 02:57:50 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.

I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.

Where is your address?
You might like my art too.


I understand your point.  I enjoy his art.  Sorry.
 
2013-10-18 02:58:58 PM
Most of the 'tagging' I see from the train on my way into work is nothing more than a bunch of ugly spray-painted initials, nicknames or stylized signatures (which is more akin to a dog pissing on a wall than art), not the colorful murals or humorous / thought-provoking works like Bansky.
 
2013-10-18 02:59:07 PM

oh_please: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"


If he was arrested and charge, I wouldnt have an issue with it either.  I like his art.  I feel bad for the owners of the property.

That is allowed, correct?
 
2013-10-18 02:59:56 PM
I'm neutral on the position of his actual art, but I support anyone who can piss off the NYPD this much without hurting anyone.
 
2013-10-18 03:00:51 PM
"Or they could pull over one of the drivers of Banksy's trucks and transfer him to a CIA black site until Banksy turns himself in."??? I disagreed with, but understood the emotions around terrorism that cause people to gleefully throw out the rule of law, but what's the justification here?
 
2013-10-18 03:02:33 PM
I saw him once. 
He was Exiting Through the Gift Shop.
 
2013-10-18 03:04:23 PM
Say what you like about his art (I actually think some of it is pretty great and thought provoking and some of it pretty dull and obvious) but the guy is a genius when it comes to marketing and I respect that possibly even more. Whether you love him or hate him you're here talking about him, and getting the mayor of NYC in on the act? Brilliant.
 
2013-10-18 03:04:38 PM
sinanju: img.fark.net

Fake. I can tell because he's starting at the bottom. Unless if he's a city worker, who is required to do the work in the least efficient way possible.
 
2013-10-18 03:05:09 PM
Begoggle: [...]

You could save yourself a lot of effort by just typing "harrumph."
 
2013-10-18 03:05:27 PM

Gunny Highway: oh_please: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"

If he was arrested and charge, I wouldnt have an issue with it either.  I like his art.  I feel bad for the owners of the property.

That is allowed, correct?


Completely allowed. Carry on.
 
2013-10-18 03:06:44 PM
Pimps, pushers, and gang-bangers can afford police bribes more easily than can Banksy. Thus, Banksy is a priority.
 
2013-10-18 03:09:16 PM

Begoggle: LeroyBourne: Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.

So destruction of other people's property is OK with you?


If that's your definition of 'destruction', then sure.  Bloomberg is calling Banksy out, and I don't think can resist.  Check out "Exit Through the Gift Shop", it might put that word 'destruction' into a different light.
 
2013-10-18 03:11:01 PM

Brosef Stalin: Say what you like about his art (I actually think some of it is pretty great and thought provoking and some of it pretty dull and obvious) but the guy is a genius when it comes to marketing and I respect that possibly even more. Whether you love him or hate him you're here talking about him, and getting the mayor of NYC in on the act? Brilliant.


I wouldn't be surprised if Bloomberg is in with him and they're just playing it up for publicity.
 
2013-10-18 03:12:01 PM
it's not my definition of art. Or it may be art

So it is, except when it isn't? Or is it?
 
2013-10-18 03:12:13 PM

oh_please: Completely allowed. Carry on.


Rock and roll, cheers, and have a good weekend!
 
2013-10-18 03:12:24 PM

oh_please: Brosef Stalin: Say what you like about his art (I actually think some of it is pretty great and thought provoking and some of it pretty dull and obvious) but the guy is a genius when it comes to marketing and I respect that possibly even more. Whether you love him or hate him you're here talking about him, and getting the mayor of NYC in on the act? Brilliant.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bloomberg is in with him and they're just playing it up for publicity.


That would be hilarious. And not a bad idea, come to think of it.
 
2013-10-18 03:12:38 PM
good.

if someone likes his stuff, they should let him put stuff on their walls.

'not having permission' does not make it art.  art is outside the artist and the confines of the moment.  if it is completely temporal and needs a backstory, it isn't art, it's a statement.

although, i fell for the trap. it doesn't matter if it is art or is not.  it affects someone else's property. you have no right to fark with someone else's property (save under a few exceptions, which do not apply here).
 
2013-10-18 03:18:02 PM

pute kisses like a man: good.

if someone likes his stuff, they should let him put stuff on their walls.

'not having permission' does not make it art.  art is outside the artist and the confines of the moment.  if it is completely temporal and needs a backstory, it isn't art, it's a statement.

although, i fell for the trap. it doesn't matter if it is art or is not.  it affects someone else's property. you have no right to fark with someone else's property (save under a few exceptions, which do not apply here).


Remember though, not all of his work deals with walls.

There's this one:
1.bp.blogspot.com
A delivery truck with a "garden" inside travelling the city...

This one:
editorial.designtaxi.com
Travelling around town (started in the meatpacking district)

This one:
i.cbc.ca
Selling his art in Central Park for $60 a pop on canvases...

And this one:
www.adweek.com
Which is traveling to different McDonald's locations
 
2013-10-18 03:18:06 PM

FunkOut: Does he plan on having the NYPD brutalise Banksy in a bathroom with batons or does he have to be black for that? Perhaps they are assuming him to be black instead of your regular wobbly toothed Brit with skin like uncooked bread dough.


I'm guessing that had he been black, he'd have 90% less fans here on Fark.
But he's white, probably rich and is authoritative so the Fark Libertarians love him, so much for their respecting of people's property rights.
 
2013-10-18 03:19:42 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS


I think it's pretty funny how you refer to his artwork as damaging and destroying property given how much his art sells for and the value it would potentially add to its location so it's kinda the complete opposite thing. Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.
 
2013-10-18 03:20:19 PM
Is this where the HOA officers come to spread their contagion?

Sure seems like it.
 
2013-10-18 03:20:50 PM

Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?


I have no problem with him painting on property when he has permission from the owner, and the cops can't do a damn thing about that.  Painting on someone's without their permission, that's vandalism.
 
2013-10-18 03:21:07 PM

Brosef Stalin: Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.


The artist, yes, because I'd want proof that Michaelangelo was somehow still alive and I rediscovered him. The turtle, hell no, always be friends with ninjas and never ever turn them in.
 
2013-10-18 03:21:39 PM

Latinwolf: Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?

I have no problem with him painting on property when he has permission from the owner, and the cops can't do a damn thing about that.  Painting on someone's property without their permission, that's vandalism.

Bad proofreading.
 
2013-10-18 03:21:56 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.

I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.

Where is your address?
You might like my art too.


Because of a few violations of the Fark policy about not publishing personal information, Drew has implemented a filter that blocks out anything that looks like an address, replacing it with stars.  Here is my home address:

*** ********** **
**********, **  ****

It also works with traditionally formatted phone numbers:

(***) ***-****

Pretty cool, huh?  Try it yourself.
 
2013-10-18 03:22:02 PM

oh_please: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"


I'd like that.

/Mimes had better watch out
 
2013-10-18 03:22:27 PM
The ICA in Boston recently featured the art of Barry McGee.  Really interesting exhibit and cool stuff.

/sort of related
 
2013-10-18 03:22:44 PM
I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.
 
2013-10-18 03:23:51 PM

Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.


Bootlicker = anti-cop version of n****er lover.
 
2013-10-18 03:24:46 PM

Gunny Highway: The ICA in Boston recently featured the art of Barry McGee.  Really interesting exhibit and cool stuff.


Did they have the harp and the dirty red bandana?
 
2013-10-18 03:26:06 PM

Latinwolf: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker = anti-cop version of n****er lover.


worldofpopculture.com
 
2013-10-18 03:26:58 PM
Caught! I've obtained this exclusive GIF of the police apprehending him...

Link

Sorry it had to be a link instead of posting the GIF but Fark has this repressive policy of art over a certain arbitrary Kb size dictated by the man being posted directly on their walls.

/Farking Fark fascists!
 
2013-10-18 03:27:55 PM

doubled99: There was no caption for the photo. Is that him?


Most likely.  There are other photos online rumored to be him, and they look just like the guy in article.   But, I wouldn't bet against the possibility that the guy in the photographs is a long-time assistant.
 
2013-10-18 03:29:23 PM

dittybopper: Gunny Highway: The ICA in Boston recently featured the art of Barry McGee.  Really interesting exhibit and cool stuff.

Did they have the harp and the dirty red bandana?


No!  There are a giant sculpture made of televisions when you walked in, a cool "wave wall" featuring his work, some crude machines that were made to took like taggers spraying the walls. the bottles with the faces, and lots of little sketches from notebooks and pads.

It was a really fun day.  I would definitely go see his work again.
 
2013-10-18 03:29:48 PM

naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.


If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.
 
2013-10-18 03:32:10 PM
I think this is awesome. We're here in the spying/internet age, and no one knows who he is. His work is intelligent and accurate, and no one knows who he is. How does that even happen??

And it's beyond retarded that the cops are trying to "DERR SHUT 'IM DOWN". Are they afraid the peasants will 'wake up' or something?

Also, how does this guy make money? Wikipedia tells me he has an agent?? For what? How does he pay his crew? Social activism alone doesn't put food in the mouth.
 
2013-10-18 03:35:40 PM

Kensey: Maybe building owners could post "art here plz" signs? Or would that just ruin it altogether?


Actually Stephen Colbert ran a piece where he posted photos of the wall outside his "building" with a picture frame that said Art Here.  LOL
 
2013-10-18 03:37:45 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.


No, but I'd give Banksy my address. My house would look much nicer with one of his works on it.

And it would really annoy my neighbours.
 
2013-10-18 03:38:08 PM

dittybopper: ecause of a few violations of the Fark policy about not publishing personal information, Drew has implemented a filter that blocks out anything that looks like an address, replacing it with stars. Here is my home address:

*** ********** **
**********, ** ****

It also works with traditionally formatted phone numbers:

(***) ***-****

Pretty cool, huh? Try it yourself.


123 Fake Street
Faketown, IL 12345

Huh.
 
2013-10-18 03:41:44 PM
This all amuses me.

We've got a world where cruelty and violence by all sides of civilization is rampant. We have governments, religions, businesses, collectives, and individuals of every sort actively acting to oppress, exploit, and/or destroy their fellow humans. We have people not directly involved cheering them on. We have rape, murder, theft, and abuse, and misuse of power every single day.

And yet some of you come here and spend such spiteful vitriol on a graffiti artist.

Don't you have better things to be indignant about? Haven't you been looking at the behavior of your species? Is your sense of proportion so badly hobbled? Is your outrage so grievously misdirected?

Poor sad, angry, little monkeys. You have so much more dangerous things to be worried about.
 
2013-10-18 03:43:17 PM

jocutus: dittybopper: ecause of a few violations of the Fark policy about not publishing personal information, Drew has implemented a filter that blocks out anything that looks like an address, replacing it with stars. Here is my home address:

*** ********** **
**********, ** ****

It also works with traditionally formatted phone numbers:

(***) ***-****

Pretty cool, huh? Try it yourself.

*** **** ******
********, ** *****

Huh.


Neat how that works, isn't it?

One caveat:  It may appear to *YOU* because it's *YOUR* address (or more properly, the address you typed in).  But the rest of us can't see it.
 
2013-10-18 03:43:38 PM

Latinwolf: Painting on someone's without their permission, that's vandalism.



As said towards the beginning of this thread, Banksy's vandalism is the equivalent of someone throwing a 20lb gold ingot through your window pane. Yeah, your property was damaged, but are you really unhappy about it?

I assume the neighbors complaining about the broken window are just annoyed that it wasn't theirs that had the gold thrown through it.
 
2013-10-18 03:44:11 PM

Brosef Stalin: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

I think it's pretty funny how you refer to his artwork as damaging and destroying property given how much his art sells for and the value it would potentially add to its location so it's kinda the complete opposite thing. Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.


so, what if it was the same art, but not worth a dime.  No one wanted to buy it?  Would it be vandalism then, or still an artistic work?
 
2013-10-18 03:45:37 PM
At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target! I, for one, feel safer already with these terrible graffiti artists locked up.
 
2013-10-18 03:47:19 PM

AgentPothead: At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target! I, for one, feel safer already with these terrible graffiti artists locked up.


At last, then, our long nightmare will be over.
 
2013-10-18 03:47:49 PM

tricycleracer: There's some pretty cool murals in my town, but they were done with permission:

[crpbayarea.org image 607x403]
[www.tampabay.com image 746x497]
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x427]


I think that is the point and its one I agree with. Street art can be amazing and beautiful if an building owner wants to offer up his building for it, then proceed with blessings. If you do this without permission in a faux attempt to be edgy you are no different than any suburban wannabe that paints a phallus on a stop sign.

Banksy  probably should be arrested.
 
2013-10-18 03:49:52 PM

Begoggle: Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

Cool, post your address so I can come buy and paint crap on your house.

I understand that, I still like his art.  Sorry.

Where is your address?
You might like my art too.


Just for the record, your a farking tool.
 
2013-10-18 03:54:01 PM

ManateeGag: Brosef Stalin: Begoggle: Bslim: Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.

Let's see what happens, bootlicker.

Bootlicker until somebody damages your property, then you're all WHERE ARE THE COPS

I think it's pretty funny how you refer to his artwork as damaging and destroying property given how much his art sells for and the value it would potentially add to its location so it's kinda the complete opposite thing. Would you also have called the cops if Michaelangelo decided to leave his mark on your property? The artist not the turtle btw.

so, what if it was the same art, but not worth a dime.  No one wanted to buy it?  Would it be vandalism then, or still an artistic work?


It's still vandalism when Banksy does it. It's just vandalism that you can sell for a whole lot of money. The question of whether it is art or not is separate, and up to the beholder.
 
2013-10-18 03:58:16 PM
Well apparently he was in Chelsea a moment ago because some woman felt the need to tell me and my coworkers that BANKSY IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY IT'S A COMPLETE MOB SCENE!....


Anywayyyyyy.....*continuing conversation that she interrupted*
 
2013-10-18 04:05:38 PM
dittybopper, you so crazy :-)
 
2013-10-18 04:07:22 PM
I find the popularity of Banksy astounding. He is no different than your typical run-of-the-mill rebellious college student who spray paints political and social commentary images around campus - yet his reputation is such that anything he does, has an elevated status, not for what it is but because of his name. If Picasso pooped on the floor, it would still be considered art because hey, it is a Picasso. Art is one of the very few things where once you have made a name for yourself, pretty much anything you do has value to it despite its quality and isn't critiqued so much piece-by-piece, but reputation of the artist.

This just goes to show you that reputation far exceeds technical ability or artistic prowess.
 
2013-10-18 04:07:38 PM
I love these Banksy threads since he causes so many farkers to blow a gasket. Last night's thread had clown shoes going full ITG blood-lust warrior over some guy named "werm". Begoggle is providing the lulz in this thread.
 
2013-10-18 04:08:03 PM

ikanreed: Millennium: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

Because artists should be allowed to deface and destroy others' property without their permission in the name of Art(tm), right?

When that property is harming the public good.


Which is basically never.

Alphakronik: Hopefully you will cite an example of someone complaining about receiving a free $500,000 piece of art on their property they can rightfully sell if they chose to? I'm sure you can produce one of those?


Talk to the police department. They've got enough complaints to satisfy you.

And why wouldn't they? The "art" you mention cannot be sold except as part of the property, and even in the rare cases where it has significant value in its own right, it is seldom if ever enough to offset the amount by which it drags down the property's value overall.
 
2013-10-18 04:10:38 PM

CJHardin: naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.

If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.


It could be one guy cutting the stencils and assistants, friends, or whomever doing the stencils.  I can't remember where I read this theory, but I want to remember reading that too many Banksy murals had shown up in places too far apart for him to physically be in both places at once.
 
2013-10-18 04:12:24 PM
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-10-18 04:17:25 PM
"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am."

Translation: "My billionaire buddies and I buy paintings as status symbols and to pretend that just because we're rich we're sophisticated."

Not a particular fan of Banksy, but fark Bloomberg.

/a few years back there was an "exhibition" of Banksy's work at the town hall in Bristol (where Banksy is from). Some intrepid Bristolian unartisically scrawled "Wanksy" in black spray paint on the town hall wall.
 
2013-10-18 04:18:06 PM

dittybopper: GBB: timujin: Hey, now that they've taken care of all of the armed robberies, rapes, murders, kidnappings and rapes, they can focus on the really important crimes like unlicensed art installations.

I don't think the Vandal Squad works those kinds of cases.   But, what do I know?

You know who really knew how to handle vandals?   The Romans.


People called Romanes, they go, the house?
 
2013-10-18 04:18:40 PM
It's not the graffiti they're bothered about, it's the loss of city and state taxes because they're not getting a cut of his sales.

Or not.  I dunno.  Money just seems the most obvious.
 
2013-10-18 04:19:10 PM

bongon247: CJHardin: naughtyrev: I'm still not convinced that Bansky is just one person. I think it's a collective.

If it is a collective then I'm going to assert that the styling is just too similar and that it is almost impossible to replicate the same applications.  Just my opinion.

It could be one guy cutting the stencils and assistants, friends, or whomever doing the stencils.  I can't remember where I read this theory, but I want to remember reading that too many Banksy murals had shown up in places too far apart for him to physically be in both places at once.


You would be surprised how many well-known artists do little of their own work. I did a collaboration project with a guy (his work was displayed in some popular museums) had graduate students prime his canvas, tape it off, some did underpainting for him, and some did most of the paintings themselves. I was absolutely shocked to find out how little he actually did. Of course, it was an honor to be working in his studio because who he was, and he would pay the "associates" but they had zero name recognition, his name was on the piece. Now, you would expect this from the fashion industry, but fine art? It is nothing but a brand.
 
2013-10-18 04:22:26 PM

germ78: over some guy named "werm"


Is that the same guy that filled in for Joe Biden?
 
2013-10-18 04:23:57 PM

WhoGAS: It's not the graffiti they're bothered about, it's the loss of city and state taxes because they're not getting a cut of his sales.

Or not.  I dunno.  Money just seems the most obvious.


It sets a precedent that illegal graffiti is ok sometimes.
 
2013-10-18 04:26:11 PM

the money is in the banana stand: It sets a precedent that illegal graffiti is ok sometimes.


Graffiti? In New York City? Why that's unheard of! We wouldn't want to set a precedent!
 
2013-10-18 04:30:50 PM
I learned today that it's 'Banksy', not 'Bansky'.

I'm gonna keep calling him Bansky.
 
2013-10-18 04:34:05 PM
timujin: I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.

On one hand, I get the 'breaking my window with a gold brick' joke.

On the other hand, it's my door, and whether I profit from it or not is irrelevant. You had no right to do anything to it and broke the law. Further, yes, it's high-profile, and specifically, it's a high-profile statement that you can get away with things. Cracking down on that perception is actually pretty sensible and is in line with some of the tactics the city adopted that got crime down so low in the first place.

/ Maybe that door had sentimental value and you ruined it.
 
2013-10-18 04:39:26 PM
Or, you could just paint over it or sand blast it off and forget calling the cops.
 
2013-10-18 04:58:11 PM

freewill: timujin: I understand going after some kids because they tagged a train.  I don't get spending a lot of resources going after someone for painting a stencil on a door when the owner of that door then takes it off the hinges and asks $200,000 for it.  They're doing this because he's "high profile", not because of the actual damage he's causing.

On one hand, I get the 'breaking my window with a gold brick' joke.

On the other hand, it's my door, and whether I profit from it or not is irrelevant. You had no right to do anything to it and broke the law. Further, yes, it's high-profile, and specifically, it's a high-profile statement that you can get away with things. Cracking down on that perception is actually pretty sensible and is in line with some of the tactics the city adopted that got crime down so low in the first place.

/ Maybe that door had sentimental value and you ruined it.


I guess the difference here is that you're talking in "what ifs" and "might bes" and I'm talking about things that actually happen, that is, people who might have a sentimental attachment to a door versus what happens any time the guy tags something that can be removed and sold.  Hell, there was one a couple of weeks ago where the building owner cut out a chunk of wall so he could sell it.  And while there may be some people who have complained, there are no greater number for Banksy than any other tagger, so the whole "We're agonna git him!" push from the mayor is, I feel, a misuse of resources.
 
2013-10-18 04:59:01 PM

LeroyBourne: Can't wait for the follow-up, I hope he gets away with it, and puts up a scathing piece that really puts their undies in a wad.


A full wall of Keystone Kops chasing an artist, perhaps.
 
2013-10-18 05:14:54 PM
Good luck, cops.
 
2013-10-18 05:18:19 PM
some neat pieces of art there.
 
2013-10-18 05:31:44 PM

sure haven't: germ78: over some guy named "werm"

Is that the same guy that filled in for Joe Biden?


I think so. Joe should really limit those long drug benders that cause him to wake up naked in Tijuana.
 
2013-10-18 05:49:33 PM
I learned a lot about Werm yesterday.
 
2013-10-18 06:33:02 PM

Slaxl: "Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that's exactly what the law says."

Haha, that's the best self-contradictory ramble by a politician I've heard today.


Not self-contradictory at all. Allow me clarify:

"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but even if so, it should not be permitted because it is being done to someone else's property without their permission. And I think that's exactly what the law says. Actually, that's exactly what the law says; it's called vandalism."

Clearer?
 
2013-10-18 06:35:02 PM

AgentPothead: At least the NYPD has solved all the crime and is now focusing on their next most important target!


Another criminal? Imagine that!
 
2013-10-18 07:31:14 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: That asshole really thinks the city is his fiefdom.


But enough about Bloomberg.
 
2013-10-18 07:44:41 PM
If this is top priority, there goes my perception of NYC as a rough, tough, and piss-on-your-boot kinda city.

Think Chicago would give a flying frak about this?
 
2013-10-18 08:15:18 PM
My guess: Bloomberg flipped a coin and it came up "bad side."  Or "inept side".
 
2013-10-18 08:33:39 PM
Don't New York cops have better things to do than to make a graffiti artist the top priority?
 
2013-10-18 08:53:31 PM
Good thing they don't have any rapes or murders to solve.
 
2013-10-18 08:59:52 PM

Begoggle: Bslim: Standard Operating Procedure for NYPD manual dictates that he be summarily executed. Afterwards he will be cuffed, raped with batons, shot for resisting while his lifeless corpse moves during the rape. Sent to Rikers, raped, beaten, then shot again while trying to escape. The police union will then stage protests to defend the heroes.

And when that doesn't happen will you apologize for being an idiot?
Nah.


You first.
 
2013-10-18 09:02:42 PM

Gunny Highway: oh_please: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"

If he was arrested and charge, I wouldnt have an issue with it either.  I like his art.  I feel bad for the owners of the property.

That is allowed, correct?


You feel bad that the owners of the 'vandalized' property received hundreds of thousands of dollars in free equity?

I would pout if that happened to me, too.
 
2013-10-18 10:31:24 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Latinwolf: Painting on someone's without their permission, that's vandalism.


As said towards the beginning of this thread, Banksy's vandalism is the equivalent of someone throwing a 20lb gold ingot through your window pane. Yeah, your property was damaged, but are you really unhappy about it?

I assume the neighbors complaining about the broken window are just annoyed that it wasn't theirs that had the gold thrown through it.


Apples and oranges, at this point you're doing nothing more than kissing his ass when you attempt this excuse.
 
2013-10-18 10:46:26 PM
In the meantime, the owners of the wall Banksy defaced yesterday are so pissed off about it, they've covered it in plexiglass and are putting a rolling door in front of it to protect it at night:

www.majhost.com
 
2013-10-18 11:10:06 PM
People STILL get worked up over Banksy?  Really?
 
2013-10-19 01:29:52 AM

oh_please: Gunny Highway: I am sure there are people out there that dont like him but Banksy is awesome in my opinion.

So, it's ok to just go around and spray paint other people's property? Do we have judges on when that's cool and when it's not? If it's called "art" by the panel, then you're a hero, but if the panel doesn't like it, you go to jail:

"Sorry, Dante, this is just tagging, in my opinion...it's trite and derivative...cuff him, Officer."

"Aw, man, it's MINIMALIST! You just don't get it! See, it's reduced to its necessary ELEMENTS! It's raw, man!"


I'm all for this, and think it should extend to all artwork.

"Nice painting, pass. You over there, what is your art? Crapping into tin cans, sealing them and then selling that off?? Book him."


/look it up
//yes, I know not all art was accepted at the time it was done
///yes, I know some art is meant to be controversial
////doesn't mean there isn't a lot of crap out there that isn't an affront against humanity
:;/:/ the art of slashies
 
2013-10-19 02:08:05 AM

Resident Muslim: "Nice painting, pass. You over there, what is your art? Crapping into tin cans, sealing them and then selling that off?? Book him."



Are you aware that you just described a critically acclaimed TV show from the early '90s

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2013-10-19 09:28:18 AM
We gotta catch Banksy. He's gonna take us seriously when we do. Show him who's boss. Security rules the message, Banksy!! If it's extra-official, it's terror. We decide, Banksy! Individualism cannot be risked in this country, Banksy -- we're founded on control!! You better get in line, boy.
 
2013-10-19 12:55:41 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Slaxl: "Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that's exactly what the law says."

Haha, that's the best self-contradictory ramble by a politician I've heard today.

Not self-contradictory at all. Allow me clarify:

"Art is art, and nobody's a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody's property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but even if so, it should not be permitted because it is being done to someone else's property without their permission. And I think that's exactly what the law says. Actually, that's exactly what the law says; it's called vandalism."

Clearer?


Art is art regardless of the legality of it. Art can be vandalism, and illegal but that doesn't mean it's not art.
 
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