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(Washington Post)   Quick tip: If your dad is letting you host huge parties at your gun-filled house and sell marijuana to your friends, don't post hundreds of pictures online. 'Cause, you know, the cops look there sometimes   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 37
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2013-10-18 11:34:22 AM
Unfortunately I feel the need to brag to the whole world about all the sh*t I'm into....so it's a bit of a conundrum.
 
2013-10-18 11:35:00 AM
Evolution in Action™
 
2013-10-18 11:37:00 AM
Gun nuts are going to start to negatively impact property values.
 
2013-10-18 11:37:26 AM
FTA:   "The father, Darel Gettier, 63, was charged with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded gun, keeping a disorderly house and "maintaining a common nuisance" by allowing his son to sell marijuana, according to court records."


WTF?
 
2013-10-18 11:37:48 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Gun nuts are going to start to negatively impact property values.


Don't be a douche...
 
2013-10-18 11:39:01 AM
The father, Darel Gettier, 63, was charged with ... keeping a disorderly house...

uh-oh.  I'm in trouble.
 
2013-10-18 11:39:44 AM
The kid is charged as an adult and the father is charged with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded guy.  It's a mystery, wrapped up inside a riddle inside an enigma.
 
2013-10-18 11:40:03 AM

Click Click D'oh: FTA:   "The father, Darel Gettier, 63, was charged with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded gun, keeping a disorderly house and "maintaining a common nuisance" by allowing his son to sell marijuana, according to court records."


WTF?


He didn't pick up that can.


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2013-10-18 11:40:07 AM
Let the pants wetting terror begin:

"Police said that many of the weapons in the house were unloaded in an upstairs closet but that there was ammunition in the same closet."

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!  THE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE SAME CLOSET!!!!!
 
2013-10-18 11:40:17 AM
The Internet: Allowing us to identify stupid people.
 
2013-10-18 11:44:04 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Gun nuts


Oh, how clever you are!
 
2013-10-18 11:44:15 AM
Since they recovered no money sold marijuana in this case means this kid had the hookup and he got it for his buddies.
 
2013-10-18 11:44:42 AM

Rivetman1.0: HotWingConspiracy: Gun nuts

Oh, how clever you are!


That's what they call themselves.
 
2013-10-18 11:45:23 AM
Best dad ever.
 
2013-10-18 11:45:38 AM

Click Click D'oh: Let the pants wetting terror begin:

"Police said that many of the weapons in the house were unloaded in an upstairs closet but that there was ammunition in the same closet."

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!  THE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE SAME CLOSET!!!!!


So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?
 
2013-10-18 11:58:35 AM
Oh crap 'keeping a disorderly house' is now a crime -> I have 2 choices a.) clean or b.) become a criminal.

Meh passed the douchie to the left hand side.
 
2013-10-18 11:59:46 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?


Nice straw man.

But since you want to go down that road, why don't you remind me what quantity of drugs were seized from the house...

FTA:  "Later that day, police and SWAT team members moved in on the house. Five juveniles were having a party.
"The house smelled strongly of marijuana," police wrote, "and there is no way that Darel Gettier did not know that his son and juvenile friends" were smoking marijuana."


So, the house just smelled like weed.  No actual weed seized.

How about that car they chased from the property:

FTA: "On Oct. 11, officers staking out the home saw a 2010 Hyundai pull up and watched the two occupants enter the house and come out. Officers trailed the car, saw it run a stop sign and pulled it over, according to court records."

Uh...so, a traffic citation.

Damn.  That's some hard core stuff there...  Ammo in the closet with unloaded guns and a smell of weed...
 
2013-10-18 12:02:22 PM

uncleacid: Best dad ever.


He hired a hooker for his 16th birthday?
 
2013-10-18 12:05:10 PM

Click Click D'oh: FTA:   "The father, Darel Gettier, 63, was charged with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded gun, keeping a disorderly house and "maintaining a common nuisance" by allowing his son to sell marijuana, according to court records."


WTF?


In Maryland, a Disorderly House is a specific legal issue: CR 10-202 "A person who keeps a disorderly house is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not less than 10 days and not exceeding 6 months or a fine not less than $50 and not exceeding $300 or both.

A house is disorderly if kept as a place where acts prohibited by statute are habitually indulged in or permitted.   Speaks v. State, 3 Md. App 371,  cert. denied 251 Md. 752 (1968).

In other words: make your home a den of crime, then  that is a crime.
 
2013-10-18 12:10:09 PM
Oes Noes!!   45 death dealing machines of destruction!!!  and M16 high capacity pistol grippy assault thingies!!
I'll be he had a case of pop tarts which can be bitten in to various assault shapes.

Anti gun douchery at its finest again.

Keeping a disorderly house?  Isn't that a womans job, to clean the house?
 
2013-10-18 12:21:05 PM
"------ -------, 16, was charged as an adult with firearms and drug offenses. Four others - a 20-year-old and three 18-year-olds - also were charged in the case."

Sucks when you're 20 and you have to go party at a 16 year old's house to score weed.

(Well, if it's a 16 year old dude anyway)
 
2013-10-18 12:27:03 PM
Where's the mother?
 
2013-10-18 12:28:35 PM

Truther: HotWingConspiracy: Gun nuts are going to start to negatively impact property values.

Don't be a douche...


You are a few years late with that advice.
 
d3
2013-10-18 12:40:20 PM
I live pretty close by. Overall, you really wouldn't expect to find this in the area, crime is pretty low. But there seems to always be one house in the neighborhood everyone knows is trouble.

mattharvest:

In Maryland, a Disorderly House is a specific legal issue: CR 10-202 "A person who keeps a disorderly house is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not less than 10 days and not exceeding 6 months or a fine not less than $50 and not exceeding $300 or both.

A house is disorderly if kept as a place where acts prohibited by statute are habitually indulged in or permitted.   Speaks v. State, 3 Md. App 371,  cert. denied 251 Md. 752 (1968).

In other words: make your home a den of crime, then  that is a crime.


So double crime then? It is illegal to deal drugs and it is illegal to deal drugs out of your home. Can't believe that passes the double jeopardy standard.
 
2013-10-18 12:43:59 PM

Click Click D'oh: HotWingConspiracy: So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?

Nice straw man.

But since you want to go down that road, why don't you remind me what quantity of drugs were seized from the house...

FTA:  "Later that day, police and SWAT team members moved in on the house. Five juveniles were having a party.
"The house smelled strongly of marijuana," police wrote, "and there is no way that Darel Gettier did not know that his son and juvenile friends" were smoking marijuana."

So, the house just smelled like weed.  No actual weed seized.

How about that car they chased from the property:

FTA: "On Oct. 11, officers staking out the home saw a 2010 Hyundai pull up and watched the two occupants enter the house and come out. Officers trailed the car, saw it run a stop sign and pulled it over, according to court records."

Uh...so, a traffic citation.

Damn.  That's some hard core stuff there...  Ammo in the closet with unloaded guns and a smell of weed...


Why are you trying to be dishonest? You know damn well they don't arrest somebody on drug charges if the house just smells like weed, they would have had to find enough weed to bring felony charges.

And the guy they pulled over, that is a common tactic used by police. If you are seen leaving a suspected drug house, they will follow you and if you make a traffic violation, they pull you over and search you. If they find anything they threaten you with jail and confiscation of your car to get you to tell them where you got your drugs from. Then they have probable cause to get a warrant to search the house you told them you bought from.

And one more thing about the guns. In many states having guns, whether they are legal or not, in the same house you are dealing drugs from is a huge no no and will earn you a huge enhancement on your sentence if you get convicted.

And here is a better article, and yes they did find a large amount of marijuana at the home.

Just a bunch of lowlife thugs.
 
2013-10-18 12:52:40 PM

d3: I live pretty close by. Overall, you really wouldn't expect to find this in the area, crime is pretty low. But there seems to always be one house in the neighborhood everyone knows is trouble.

mattharvest:

In Maryland, a Disorderly House is a specific legal issue: CR 10-202 "A person who keeps a disorderly house is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not less than 10 days and not exceeding 6 months or a fine not less than $50 and not exceeding $300 or both.

A house is disorderly if kept as a place where acts prohibited by statute are habitually indulged in or permitted.   Speaks v. State, 3 Md. App 371,  cert. denied 251 Md. 752 (1968).

In other words: make your home a den of crime, then  that is a crime.

So double crime then? It is illegal to deal drugs and it is illegal to deal drugs out of your home. Can't believe that passes the double jeopardy standard.


That's not what double jeopardy means.

The standard throughout the US is that if you have two crimes, and each crime has one or more elements that are not present in the other crime, then there is no double jeopardy.

So, Crime 1 is "Distribution of CDS".  That requires that the defendant (i) possess CDS, (ii) physically dispense that CDS to a third person, and (iii) that he do so knowingly.

Crime 2 is "Disorderly House".  That requires that the defendant (i) repeatedly, to the point of habit (ii) engage in any crime, CDS or otherwise) (iii) in a house.

If we compare the elements, there is no overlap at all.  Disorderly House is unconcerned with what crime is occurring, so long as it is in a house and habitual.  Distribution of CDS is unconcerned with where it occurs, and requires CDS itself.

There's nothing remotely like double jeopardy occurring.
 
2013-10-18 12:55:37 PM
What's the big deal? It's not like any kid is going to grab a gun and head down to the local elementary school, right?
 
2013-10-18 01:28:43 PM
d3:Can't believe that passes the double jeopardy standard.


You don't even know what that means, do you?
 
2013-10-18 01:31:16 PM
Came looking for piccies of Soprano cast members -leaving disappoint.
 
2013-10-18 01:41:25 PM

d3: So double crime then? It is illegal to deal drugs and it is illegal to deal drugs out of your home. Can't believe that passes the double jeopardy standard.


Return your GED in law to the toilet you got it from.
 
2013-10-18 01:47:44 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Click Click D'oh: Let the pants wetting terror begin:

"Police said that many of the weapons in the house were unloaded in an upstairs closet but that there was ammunition in the same closet."

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!  THE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE SAME CLOSET!!!!!

So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?


You may want to go grab the pampers before you read the next sentence:  That describes the average american household, probably yours or your neighbors.


And WTF on the being charged as an adult and a SWAT raid?  Reeks of post 9/11 small town LEO boredom.
 
2013-10-18 02:00:47 PM

IRQ12: HotWingConspiracy: Click Click D'oh: Let the pants wetting terror begin:

"Police said that many of the weapons in the house were unloaded in an upstairs closet but that there was ammunition in the same closet."

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!  THE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE SAME CLOSET!!!!!

So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?

You may want to go grab the pampers before you read the next sentence:  That describes the average american household, probably yours or your neighbors.


Gallup says 36% as of 2011 in the US.  It also says that owner is most likely a white male over 50 with a HS education or less.

So, his name is most likely "Elmer".
 
2013-10-18 02:03:37 PM

noitsnot: IRQ12: HotWingConspiracy: Click Click D'oh: Let the pants wetting terror begin:

"Police said that many of the weapons in the house were unloaded in an upstairs closet but that there was ammunition in the same closet."

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!  THE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE SAME CLOSET!!!!!

So you're cool with a drug house filled with weapons in your neighborhood?

You may want to go grab the pampers before you read the next sentence:  That describes the average american household, probably yours or your neighbors.

Gallup says 36% as of 2011 in the US.  It also says that owner is most likely a white male over 50 with a HS education or less.

So, his name is most likely "Elmer".


I guess the ownership % is most likely per capita, so that means the per household is actually higher.

Elmer, Sue Ann, and the kids.
 
2013-10-18 03:18:38 PM
Here in the peoples republic of montgomery county we frown on gun ownership. Looks like Gaithersburg is trying to become Germantown.

/lives in Germantown
 
2013-10-18 04:21:24 PM
Protip:  Disorderly house has nothing to to with cleanliness.  It's has to do with the conduct of the occupants.

What I don't get is how they're charging the dad with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded gun yet they're charging the kid as an adult.
 
2013-10-19 06:00:06 PM

KidneyStone: Protip:  Disorderly house has nothing to to with cleanliness.  It's has to do with the conduct of the occupants.

What I don't get is how they're charging the dad with allowing a minor to have access to a loaded gun yet they're charging the kid as an adult.


Minor per the Public Safety Article means "Less than 21 years or Age."

Meanwhile, by  law, someone 16 or older charged with certain offenses (such as these) must be charged as an adult.  There is no discretion by the police there.  The defendant can file to be waived down to juvenile court, and a Circuit Court judge will determine whether or not that waiver-down is appropriate.
 
2013-10-19 10:53:36 PM
best dad of the year. not only does he allow his kid to sell medicine to the locals, but he protects them too from the confines of his own house with his own guns. the only problem i see here, is the pictures that the kid uploaded to instagram. biggest mistake of his life i bet, and his dad, is probably giving him so much crap for it.
 
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