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2013-10-18 11:29:39 AM
I learned that a POTUS that communicates his position clearly and stands strong against extortion is showing weak leadership in the minds of some of my fellow Americans.
www.pheasantsforever.org
 
2013-10-18 11:42:00 AM
Ted Cruz is a grandstanding douchebag who has aspirations for a 2016 Presidential bid?
 
2013-10-18 11:43:11 AM
NOT A GODDAMN THING.
 
2013-10-18 11:43:56 AM

sammyk: I learned that a POTUS that communicates his position clearly and stands strong against extortion is showing weak leadership in the minds of some of my fellow Americans.
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The Authoritarians suggests maybe "leadership" to republicans is being a republican.  No more, no less.
 
2013-10-18 11:49:39 AM
I learned that much like both sides are bad, both sides really lost.  Thanks, Politico!  You're my source for unsupported political  false equivalency.
 
2013-10-18 11:50:27 AM
Suckers are suckers and everyone loves a kabuki dance?
 
2013-10-18 11:51:33 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: NOT A GODDAMN THING.


This
 
2013-10-18 11:51:55 AM
We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.
 
2013-10-18 11:52:16 AM
as usual, the lying human garbage propagandists in the GOP will learn no lessons and suffer no consequences
 
2013-10-18 11:53:03 AM
I learned that you can't underestimate the power of derp. It should be very clear that the shutdown was stupid, or that messing with the debt limit would be a terrible thing for the country. Not so for a great many Americans. Mainly because these people are living in a reality of their own, where everything the Democrats do makes them the enemy. Scary.
 
2013-10-18 11:55:22 AM
fta Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday morning. "I hope everybody walks away with a lesson that this is unnecessary, and I hope we can regain the trust of the American people."

You know I love you Uncle Joe, but that is some stupid shiat right there.
 
2013-10-18 11:56:08 AM
Lucy is a farkin biatch
 
2013-10-18 11:57:02 AM

dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.


That's what I was saying!  Both sides ARE bad.  But you did a much better job of supporting this position with blatant assertions!  And since I drink six packs, you should take my opinion and barely considered political alliances seriously.
 
2013-10-18 11:57:34 AM
1. Don't take hostages unless you're willing to shoot them.
2. If your plan includes a step 1 (shut down the government) and a step 3 (destroy the PPACA), you'd best make sure there's a step 2 connecting them.
 
2013-10-18 11:58:42 AM

dwrash: A third party would be much more preferable thought.


You have that already, they're called teabaggers.
 
2013-10-18 11:59:37 AM
Drink your Ovaltine
 
2013-10-18 11:59:59 AM

dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.


There are three parties, we just saw that, Democrats, Republicans and the tea party.

Did you not pay attention to the vote, who voted for an againts.  Democrats and republicans voted to keep the government open and to pay the bills, the tea party voted against it.

We have a coalition government right now.
 
2013-10-18 12:01:47 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-18 12:02:45 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-18 12:03:05 PM
Author seems intent on pushing the narrative that no one won in the shutdown/debt ceiling thing, doesn't he?
 
2013-10-18 12:04:18 PM

HotWingConspiracy: dwrash: A third party would be much more preferable thought.

You have that already, they're called teabaggers.


I've been assured multiple times that any third party would be preferable to the two major parties we have in power. ANY third party. Are you suggesting those were just meaningless platitudes used to appear above the fray and smarter-than-thou? I don't believe it.
 
2013-10-18 12:05:14 PM

dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.


Also: this is hilarious. Good work.
 
2013-10-18 12:05:19 PM

HotWingConspiracy: dwrash: A third party would be much more preferable thought.

You have that already, they're called teabaggers.


Teabaggers aren't a party, but they should be. Teabaggers, evangelicals, and social conservatives overlap enough that they should quit sucking the teet of the Republican party and stand on their own two feet. Damn teet sucking teabaggers.
 
2013-10-18 12:06:25 PM

dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.


Then the Tea Party should put on their big girl panties and split from the Republicans. All the derpsters can go their, Republicans can go back to being actual conservatives, blue dogs can go back to being Republicans, and the Democrats can move a tiny bit to the left.

Good for everyone
 
2013-10-18 12:06:26 PM
The TeaTards learned that it's the WHOLE WORLD against them, not just the durned libruls.
 
2013-10-18 12:07:09 PM

Skleenar: dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.

That's what I was saying!  Both sides ARE bad.  But you did a much better job of supporting this position with blatant assertions!  And since I drink six packs, you should take my opinion and barely considered political alliances seriously.


Both sides are bad but Obama is the antichrist and the ACA will destroy America and rape your grandmother.
 
2013-10-18 12:07:20 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

The Republicans on the other hand just want to make a boogie man out of it and have it repealed at all costs.

The fact is the ACA is LAW, and a very poorly written one at that.  Obama and company need to be called on why they allowed a foreign contractor to build the healthcare.gov site and never stress tested it so that it melted down... then his union cronies need to ask him why a canadian company got the job.  Republicans need to be held to the fire about why they have obstructed it so much... as it would be much smarter and better for the american people if it actually succeeded (although at this point it is looking more and more like it is going to take a miracle to make that happen).

Idiots.. all of them, and they should all be replaced.

A third party would be much more preferable thought.

Then the Tea Party should put on their big girl panties and split from the Republicans. All the derpsters can go their ther, Republicans can go back to being actual conservatives, blue dogs can go back to being Republicans, and the Democrats can move a tiny bit to the left.

Good for everyone


Goddam autocorrect and me not paying attention...
 
2013-10-18 12:07:43 PM
Passing a very basic maintenance bill through both houses of Congress and the President is shredding the Constitution and sending us down the road to Communist hell (which is worse than regular hell because they don't have nearly as many rock stars.)
 
2013-10-18 12:08:37 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Then the Tea Party should put on their big girl panties and split from the Republicans. All the derpsters can go their, Republicans can go back to being actual conservatives, blue dogs can go back to being Republicans, and the Democrats can move a tiny bit to the left.

Good for everyone


The speed and force with which the big money backers of the tea party would abandon those nutjobs and return to the pro-business GOP should be harnessed in some way to provide clean energy for the world.
 
2013-10-18 12:08:47 PM
Until we get rid of our Weeners the post system, theres little point of supporting anyone other than Democratic.

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2013-10-18 12:09:17 PM

Car_Ramrod: HotWingConspiracy: dwrash: A third party would be much more preferable thought.

You have that already, they're called teabaggers.

I've been assured multiple times that any third party would be preferable to the two major parties we have in power. ANY third party. Are you suggesting those were just meaningless platitudes used to appear above the fray and smarter-than-thou? I don't believe it.


As well you shouldn't.  I have it on good authority that "libertarian" is a fine label to attach to oneself, as it denotes a solid comprehension of governance, political acumen, and understanding of the country's problems.  It also allows one to vote for the candidate that best represents one's own interests, from either of the two major parties, when a libertarian party candidate is unavailable.
 
2013-10-18 12:10:00 PM
FTFA: "House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities."

This is a stupid statement. There's no reason why anybody would think any republicans would be willing to work with Obama on his priorities.  They are all about opposing whatever he wants to do and the only way they would "work with him" would be if he decided to completely implement their agenda.  This seems obvious.
 
2013-10-18 12:15:37 PM

wax_on: FTFA: "House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities."

This is a stupid statement. There's no reason why anybody would think any republicans would be willing to work with Obama on his priorities.  They are all about opposing whatever he wants to do and the only way they would "work with him" would be if he decided to completely implement their agenda.  This seems obvious.


The Republicans have made it crystal clear over the last 5 years that they have NO intention on working with the WH on anything.

And now the GOP whines about the WH not wanting to negotiate?  Fark them.
 
2013-10-18 12:18:21 PM

Infernalist: wax_on: FTFA: "House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities."

This is a stupid statement. There's no reason why anybody would think any republicans would be willing to work with Obama on his priorities.  They are all about opposing whatever he wants to do and the only way they would "work with him" would be if he decided to completely implement their agenda.  This seems obvious.

The Republicans have made it crystal clear over the last 5 years that they have NO intention on working with the WH on anything.

And now the GOP whines about the WH not wanting to negotiate?  Fark them.


Yeah, and the fact that every time Obama does try to completely implement the GOP agenda, they start opposing that too.
 
2013-10-18 12:18:31 PM
The single most parroted talking point:  The Republicans wasted a golden opportunity to talk about the disastrous rollout of Obamacare.

Yeah.  Sure.  Web glitches made it harder to sign up for something, in the early days anyway, that is not required for another 2-1/2 months yet.  Disaster!  Catastrophe!  Inexcusable!

In contrast, if you wanted to talk about the f*cked up bloody mess that was Iran, a full two years after we went in, the response was, "Good patriotic congressmen who are not siding with terrorists just vote for the additional $30-50 billion spending bills that pop up every three to six months, in spite of the stories that soldiers still don't even have basic body armor, in spite of the stories of contractors charging huge bills to do the shoddiest kind of work, like provide contaminated drinking water, or shower stalls that electrocute soldiers, in spite of the bloody civil war we've stirred up, in spite of the complete lack of WMDs, because KEEP AMERICA SAFE FREEDOM ISN'T FREE WITH US OR AGAINST US."

But a faulty web site:  DISASTER WHY DON'T THEY TALK ABOUT THE DISASTER.

Your liberal-biased media hard at work.
 
2013-10-18 12:19:46 PM
Washington is still mired in the zero-sum politics of slicing up a shrinking pie.

A wise man once said, in circumstances like these, we should "make the pie higher."

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-18 12:21:54 PM

Car_Ramrod: dwrash: We learned that both sides are complete idiots when it comes to the ACA.  To the democrats, its a sacred cow that cannot be touched even though it has shown to be total bullship.. it has raised rates, cost jobs, the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment.  They are the party of good intentions but do not have the brains to actually implement this stuff.

Also: this is hilarious. Good work.


I thought so too. Did you notice how, if you excise "the implementation of healthcare.gov was an embarrassment," every single word is dishonest and wrong?
 
2013-10-18 12:25:52 PM
I learned that the impressions I formed of the Republican Party during the reign of St. Reagan are as spot-on as ever.
 
2013-10-18 12:32:54 PM

born_yesterday: As well you shouldn't.  I have it on good authority that "libertarian" is a fine label to attach to oneself, as it denotes a solid comprehension of governance, political acumen, and understanding of the country's problems.  It also allows one to vote for the candidate that best represents one's own interests, from either of the two major parties, when a libertarian party candidate is unavailable.


img.fark.net
 
2013-10-18 12:39:11 PM

wax_on: FTFA: "House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities."

This is a stupid statement. There's no reason why anybody would think any republicans would be willing to work with Obama on his priorities.  They are all about opposing whatever he wants to do and the only way they would "work with him" would be if he decided to completely implement their agenda.  This seems obvious.


Even then, they wouldn't.  I mean, look at their healthcare plan.  The Heritage Foundation touted it as  a free-market approach, the Republican congress proposed it as an alternative to Clinton's healthcare plan, a Republican governor successfully implemented it in his state... and then Obama said, "OK, let's do it", and suddenly it was the most evil, communist thing ever.
 
2013-10-18 12:44:15 PM

HeartBurnKid: wax_on: FTFA: "House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities."

This is a stupid statement. There's no reason why anybody would think any republicans would be willing to work with Obama on his priorities.  They are all about opposing whatever he wants to do and the only way they would "work with him" would be if he decided to completely implement their agenda.  This seems obvious.

Even then, they wouldn't.  I mean, look at their healthcare plan.  The Heritage Foundation touted it as  a free-market approach, the Republican congress proposed it as an alternative to Clinton's healthcare plan, a Republican governor successfully implemented it in his state... and then Obama said, "OK, let's do it", and suddenly it was the most evil, communist thing ever.


Of course it was. Conservapedia defines Communism as: "any form of legislation introduced, amended, or approved by someone who is not a member of the Republican party."
 
2013-10-18 12:49:28 PM
i232.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-18 01:32:36 PM
I learned republicans are assholes.

That's not correct, my knowledge of that was confirmed.
 
2013-10-18 01:43:07 PM
House Republicans say it's not that they don't want to craft solutions on immigration and other issues, it's just that they now believe Obama is so motivated by political victory that he is unwilling to make necessary policy concessions to create broad coalitions for his priorities.

House Republicans lie.

Crewmannumber6: Lucy is a farkin biatch


And that.
 
2013-10-18 02:00:16 PM

born_yesterday: Car_Ramrod: HotWingConspiracy: dwrash: A third party would be much more preferable thought.

You have that already, they're called teabaggers.

I've been assured multiple times that any third party would be preferable to the two major parties we have in power. ANY third party. Are you suggesting those were just meaningless platitudes used to appear above the fray and smarter-than-thou? I don't believe it.

As well you shouldn't.  I have it on good authority that "libertarian" is a fine label to attach to oneself, as it denotes a solid comprehension of governance, political acumen, and understanding of the country's problems.  It also allows one to vote for the candidate that best represents one's own interests, from either of the two major parties, when a libertarian party candidate is unavailable.


Right now this thread needs Danny Trejo to come in and cut through some of this sarcasm.
 
2013-10-18 02:02:32 PM
"I got a rock."
 
2013-10-18 02:28:05 PM

clkeagle: Conservaderpedia defines Communism as: "any form of legislation introduced, amended, or approved by someone who is not a member of the Republican party."

FIFY

 
2013-10-18 02:31:34 PM
I learned what i've been knowing all along. Republicans put party before country, and this is a clear cut example of that.

I've learned that Democrats DO have a spine. Here i thought they were just invertebrates.

That the MSM LSM IN THE POCKET FOR OBAMA media can sometimes...sometimes sorta drop the both sides are teh bads and report the right information. Then again, it wasn't quite the journalism i was hoping for. And i had to go to outside sources. Like freaking Al Jazeera America.

Finally, that herp is gonna derp whether you like it or not. The only choice is to try limit how much herp's derping can really effect you in your day to day activities.
 
2013-10-18 05:20:21 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: "I got a rock."


Funny'd.

Keeping the CB analogy thing going...

I'm thinking the Dems are like Charlie Brown and the ACA and his other initiatives are like his kites and the Teatards are basically the kite eating tree albeit with a lower success rate than the one from the strip.
 
2013-10-19 04:51:14 AM
Make the world a better place.
Punch a tea partier in the face.


/Sorry.  That was the eight-year old in me getting out.
 
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