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2013-10-18 08:57:54 AM  
He argues like an alt.

Oh, where to begin?

Without his guns and curses, Kessler questioned who would listen.

Try having a strong position to argue from, and making cogent and well thought out arguments?

I know...I'm cuckoo bananas.
 
2013-10-18 09:03:16 AM  
Another Rugged Conservative who sounds like an 11-year-old girl and doesn't understand that what you put on the intartubes is there forever for all to see
 
2013-10-18 09:07:50 AM  
So this police chief is kind of an idiot then?
 
2013-10-18 09:13:18 AM  
The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?
 
2013-10-18 09:16:27 AM  
Don't you libtards understand he was doing these videos for shock value to bring attention to the real issues going on in this country? There are cops out there that are literally out to get you if you're not up to snuff on their definition of a quality citizen. If it wasn't for this brave, patriotic American using his power as a law enforcement official to threaten those he disagrees with then how would we be aware of brave, patriotic American law enforcement officers threatening those they disagree with?
 
2013-10-18 09:18:05 AM  

Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?


Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.
 
2013-10-18 09:18:36 AM  
What a dirtbag scrubtard.

"There's a lot more going on than people realize."

No shiat, mentally ill person!
 
2013-10-18 09:19:43 AM  
That there's even a question about his professional fitness is sickening.
 
2013-10-18 09:20:40 AM  
I thought Fark's favorite cop was Sheriff Joe.

Although this guy sounds like he's trying to give Joe a challenge.  We'll have to see if he's got the stamina to keep up the act for years.
 
2013-10-18 09:22:40 AM  
"Officer's discretion" is a fancy way of saying I can do whatever the hell I want to.

Hear a disturbance call at an enemy's house? Sorry dispatch I can't respond.

See a little roach in some non-important person's car? Arrest and throw in jail.

The mayor or a senator is 12 times over the legal limit and slamming into cars? Let me just drive you home without anyone hearing about it.
 
2013-10-18 09:24:07 AM  
"Do you think I should be shot?" Morrill asked.
"Did I say that?" Kessler said.
"You said libtards should be shot. ... You have a video called Shoot Libtards from a Tree."


I foresee this guy's comments coming back to haunt him VERY QUICKLY, even without poring through all of the trash talk on the videos... Here's one of his "non-violent" descriptions for a video:

still busting out rounds , & SHOVING IT UP LIBTARDS A$$ CRACKS !!!!!

Oh, here's another:
While visiting the great state of Texas, I rented a Thompson submachine gun , or what true American Patriots who actually believe in our constitution, would call 
("THE TOMMY GUN" ) used during WWII by our brave men & women fighting dictators, NAZIS, Fascist, you know, much like what we have here, but I like call them Democrats, Republican, liberals, libtards! or pretty much whatever comes to mind !


He's right though. He makes no violent statements whatsoever, the "liberal media" obviously makes it all up, right?
 
2013-10-18 09:24:33 AM  
He doesn't sound so tough without a gun and a camera.
 
2013-10-18 09:25:00 AM  

Diogenes: He argues like an alt.

Oh, where to begin?

Without his guns and curses, Kessler questioned who would listen.

Try having a strong position to argue from, and making cogent and well thought out arguments?


img.fark.net
 
2013-10-18 09:25:30 AM  
I bet he has some sort of list, and anyone that doesn't conform to his ideals goes on that list and is subject to extra special attention, harassment and arrest.

Meanwhile, his cronies get free rides home when caught DUI or vandalizing the home of a known "Libtard"

This man has no business being a LEO
 
2013-10-18 09:30:23 AM  
Do you think I should be shot?" Morrill asked.
"Did I say that?" Kessler said.
"You said libtards should be shot. ... You have a video called Shoot Libtards from a Tree."
"Let me see it."
"It's on YouTube," Morrill answered.


If you were debating this guy, why would you not come prepared with an iPad and the videos already loaded, ready for you to hit play?
 
2013-10-18 09:30:40 AM  
Dude's also a walking lawsuit, since he's made his proclivities clear for the world to see.
If he ever mistreats a person whose political views oppose his own, it'll be federal lawsuit time.
 
2013-10-18 09:33:08 AM  

Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?


Remember, we had that case in NY where the cops watch someone get the shiat stabbed out of himself on the subway, and the judges ruled they were in no way duty bound to step in and protect the man. Not sure WHY we have cops now...

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-s ub way-hero-who-subdued-killer/
 
2013-10-18 09:34:14 AM  
This guy thinks driving drunk is protected by the Constitution?
 
2013-10-18 09:35:05 AM  

LittleSmitty: I bet he has some sort of list, and anyone that doesn't conform to his ideals goes on that list and is subject to extra special attention, harassment and arrest.

Meanwhile, his cronies get free rides home when caught DUI or vandalizing the home of a known "Libtard"

This man has no business being a LEO


This is the second time in about 5 posts, someone has thrown this out there. I'm curious if this is just a throwaway or if I missed a story about him somewhere in the mix.
 
2013-10-18 09:35:43 AM  
He comes off as having a very small penis. I would imagine it looks like a wasp bite with an afro.
 
2013-10-18 09:37:04 AM  
"Do you think I should be shot?" Morrill asked.
"Did I say that?" Kessler said.
"You said libtards should be shot. ... You have a video called Shoot Libtards from a Tree."
"Let me see it."
"It's on YouTube," Morrill answered.
Kessler challenged him to produce the video


Oh look, another conservative that doesn't understand how this whole internetting thing works.


"I can use whatever term I want," Kessler said. "Freedom of speech."
.....
"What we're talking about here is not swearing," Morrill said. "This is not about being able to shoot guns or have videos. This is about whether or not somebody has the temperament of a police officer."

 No sh/t, you can say whatever you want.  That doesn't mean people can't say "what a crackpot.  I don't want him leading law enforcement in my town because he's obviously got some serious problems and can't control himself."


Without his guns and curses, Kessler questioned who would listen. Now, his message has gone viral and news media across the country have reported on it.

If you need to yell curse words and shoot guns to get people to listen, then you don't have a reasonable argument worth listening to.  Also, I guess if you want your message to get more attention your insanity got it, and probably made your argument seem even thinner since the guy making it needed to act like a lunatic in the process.
 
2013-10-18 09:37:25 AM  

Kit Fister: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.


Thank you for that response.

Well, at the risk of parsing this nut's words too closely, I would have to say I doubt that's the first thing they teach you at the academy.
 
2013-10-18 09:42:29 AM  

Diogenes: Kit Fister: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.

Thank you for that response.

Well, at the risk of parsing this nut's words too closely, I would have to say I doubt that's the first thing they teach you at the academy.


I saw a documentary on police officer training called Police Academy. Apparently the first thing taught at the academy is hijinks and second is shenanigans.
 
2013-10-18 09:42:36 AM  
"He argued that political leadership - by both Democrats and Republicans - is ineffective"

 BSAB so Shoot Libtards from a Tree?
 
2013-10-18 09:44:17 AM  

Mikey1969: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Remember, we had that case in NY where the cops watch someone get the shiat stabbed out of himself on the subway, and the judges ruled they were in no way duty bound to step in and protect the man. Not sure WHY we have cops now...

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-s ub way-hero-who-subdued-killer/


Same reason we have always had cops: They are there to enforce the law and catch those who have broken it.  They are not there, and never have been there, to protect individuals and otherwise act as body guards.

The supreme court has ruled the same thing.

The duty to protect yourself falls on you, or those hired for that specific purpose. Police will, at their discretion, also protect you, but as you can see here, they are not obligated to do so.  In most cases, police protection has come when there is an overriding interest in doing so, such as to protect key witnesses to a crime.

This is also why in cases of stalking or domestic violence, etc., police will generally offer to fast-track a concealed carry permit and assist the individual in securing a firearm for personal protection.

And the source of the age-old saying "When seconds count, 911 is only minutes away..."
 
2013-10-18 09:44:37 AM  
what an unbelievable piece of shiat
 
2013-10-18 09:45:48 AM  
"I said that I would literally shoot liberals? On YouTube? Prove it, libtard"
 
2013-10-18 09:48:12 AM  

max_pooper: Diogenes: Kit Fister: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.

Thank you for that response.

Well, at the risk of parsing this nut's words too closely, I would have to say I doubt that's the first thing they teach you at the academy.

I saw a documentary on police officer training called Police Academy. Apparently the first thing taught at the academy is hijinks and second is shenanigans.


"Hey Farva, what's the name of that place you like, with the cheese sticks and that crazy shiat all over the walls?"

"Shenanigans?"

"Oooooooooooh..."
 
2013-10-18 09:48:45 AM  
If you Google "Shoot libtards from a tree," the video in question pops up immediately. First result. (Though that specific phrase comes from Kessler's Twitter feed when he posted a link to the video...technicality)  Kessler's a dumbass.

Didn't he get fired? Isn't he now just "private citizen Mark Kessler?"
 
2013-10-18 09:50:20 AM  

Mikey1969: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Remember, we had that case in NY where the cops watch someone get the shiat stabbed out of himself on the subway, and the judges ruled they were in no way duty bound to step in and protect the man. Not sure WHY we have cops now...

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-s ub way-hero-who-subdued-killer/


To serve and protect, duh!

Just like all those investment bank commercials where the firm goes on and on about they put their customers first!


LMFAO ...
 
2013-10-18 09:50:55 AM  
FTFA: One of his supporters dropped a loaded gun during the hearing, causing officials to abruptly suspend it until it could resume in the more secure Schuylkill County Courthouse


Responsible gun owner.
 
2013-10-18 09:51:55 AM  
It's the ship that made the Kessler  run in less than 12 parsecs
 
2013-10-18 09:52:22 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: If you Google "Shoot libtards from a tree," the video in question pops up immediately. First result. (Though that specific phrase comes from Kessler's Twitter feed when he posted a link to the video...technicality)  Kessler's a dumbass.

Didn't he get fired? Isn't he now just "private citizen Mark Kessler?"


That dumbass trucker dude who was going shutdown the beltway referred to Kessler as "Constitutional Police Chief" on his website.
 
2013-10-18 09:52:38 AM  

Mikey1969: LittleSmitty: I bet he has some sort of list, and anyone that doesn't conform to his ideals goes on that list and is subject to extra special attention, harassment and arrest.

Meanwhile, his cronies get free rides home when caught DUI or vandalizing the home of a known "Libtard"

This man has no business being a LEO

This is the second time in about 5 posts, someone has thrown this out there. I'm curious if this is just a throwaway or if I missed a story about him somewhere in the mix.


Since I led off with "I bet", yes, this is just a throwaway.

However, having grown up in a small Southern town, I can assure you that such things do indeed happen. Locals, friends and "supporters" of the local LEO do indeed get a pass and a free ride home when DUI, while non-locals, successful-and-attractive-african-americans and people that have crossed the local LEO get the doo-doo end of the stick.

I have no evidence he does this, but I doubt I'd go broke betting against it.
 
2013-10-18 09:53:43 AM  

Kit Fister: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.


bullshiat. pure and utter bullshiat.
 
2013-10-18 09:54:01 AM  

Kit Fister: Mikey1969: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Remember, we had that case in NY where the cops watch someone get the shiat stabbed out of himself on the subway, and the judges ruled they were in no way duty bound to step in and protect the man. Not sure WHY we have cops now...

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-s ub way-hero-who-subdued-killer/

Same reason we have always had cops: They are there to enforce the law and catch those who have broken it.  They are not there, and never have been there, to protect individuals and otherwise act as body guards.

The supreme court has ruled the same thing.

The duty to protect yourself falls on you, or those hired for that specific purpose. Police will, at their discretion, also protect you, but as you can see here, they are not obligated to do so.  In most cases, police protection has come when there is an overriding interest in doing so, such as to protect key witnesses to a crime.

This is also why in cases of stalking or domestic violence, etc., police will generally offer to fast-track a concealed carry permit and assist the individual in securing a firearm for personal protection.

And the source of the age-old saying "When seconds count, 911 is only minutes away..."


Of course, sitting back and watching a stabbing has nothing to do with enforcing the law. Unless it was a mandatory stabbing law of some kind.
 
2013-10-18 09:54:04 AM  

Loud_Mouth_Soup: FTFA: One of his supporters dropped a loaded gun during the hearing, causing officials to abruptly suspend it until it could resume in the more secure Schuylkill County Courthouse


Responsible gun owner.


What were they going to do?  Shoot a farking judge if they didn't get their way?
 
2013-10-18 09:54:33 AM  

Kit Fister: The supreme court has ruled the same thing.


And yet we still see a rise in 'duty to rescue' laws.  Weird.
 
2013-10-18 09:54:51 AM  

LittleSmitty: Since I led off with "I bet", yes, this is just a throwaway.

However, having grown up in a small Southern town, I can assure you that such things do indeed happen. Locals, friends and "supporters" of the local LEO do indeed get a pass and a free ride home when DUI, while non-locals, successful-and-attractive-african-americans and people that have crossed the local LEO get the doo-doo end of the stick.

I have no evidence he does this, but I doubt I'd go broke betting against it.


I just wasn't sure, I thought maybe there'd been a story I missed. I wouldn't have been surprised at all.
 
2013-10-18 09:55:54 AM  
There's more going on than most Americans realize.
That's the nature of reality, Mr. Stupid Cop.

There's nothing like a philosopher with a badge.
 
2013-10-18 09:57:59 AM  
So this loser in the middle of freaking nowhere is certain there's things going on we don't know about.

Do tell.
 
2013-10-18 09:58:39 AM  
Anyone who uses libtard seriously shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns.
 
2013-10-18 10:00:16 AM  

born_yesterday: Loud_Mouth_Soup: FTFA: One of his supporters dropped a loaded gun during the hearing, causing officials to abruptly suspend it until it could resume in the more secure Schuylkill County Courthouse


Responsible gun owner.

What were they going to do?  Shoot a farking judge if they didn't get their way?


Suffice it to say, we're all over the map with regard to guns and gun laws in this country.  Use a toy gun to commit a crime?  Carries the full penalty of using a real gun.  Carry a gun to a public hearing?  Nope - no intimidation there.  Kids get suspended for playing cops and robbers, but you can open carry to bars and churches.

I'm not trying to make a statement of my feelings about gun laws.  I'm really not.  I'm just saying we have no consistency at all.
 
2013-10-18 10:02:02 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: So this loser in the middle of freaking nowhere is certain there's things going on we don't know about.

Do tell.


Things like culture, society, world events, and education.
 
2013-10-18 10:04:14 AM  

Karac: Do you think I should be shot?" Morrill asked.
"Did I say that?" Kessler said.
"You said libtards should be shot. ... You have a video called Shoot Libtards from a Tree."
"Let me see it."
"It's on YouTube," Morrill answered.

If you were debating this guy, why would you not come prepared with an iPad and the videos already loaded, ready for you to hit play?


Where's Candy Crowley when you need her?
 
2013-10-18 10:05:20 AM  

Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?


thestorydept.thestorydepartme3.netdna-cdn.com
 
2013-10-18 10:06:14 AM  

UberDave: So this police chief is kind of an idiot then?


That's not fair to idiots who generally keep a lower profile. He's more of an attention whore idiot.
 
2013-10-18 10:07:17 AM  

Kit Fister: Diogenes: The big shame in all this is that he really exemplifies all the worst things that some people believe about the police.  If I were a cop, I'd want his ass canned, too.  Regardless of my political view or ideology (which shouldn't even enter the picture with regard to the performance of your duties).

"The first thing in the police academy that you're taught is officer's discretion," Kessler said. "We don't even have to respond to your home."

Any Fark law enforcement folks want to weigh in on that one?

Well, I am not personally a police officer but know several, train with several, and have several in my family.

Technically speaking, this is true. Police do not have an obligation to respond to calls if they have reasons otherwise.  They are obligated to respond to dispatch calls in general, however depending on the situation, they may not be able to, or have other business to attend to.

This goes along with the well known and settled point that police officers are also under no obligation to protect individuals, only enforce law.


So, even in a  case where a drug-fueled madman is literally trying to bust down your bathroom door to get at you and your kids, the cop can go Ayn Rand and just have 911 tell you to be more bootstrappy?

Must be nice to have a job where you eat donuts all day, bully people on a  whim, murder them and get a paid vacation for a reward, and not even have to help anyone if you just don't feel like it. All while on the taxpayer's dime.
 
2013-10-18 10:07:57 AM  

Mikey1969: LittleSmitty: Since I led off with "I bet", yes, this is just a throwaway.

However, having grown up in a small Southern town, I can assure you that such things do indeed happen. Locals, friends and "supporters" of the local LEO do indeed get a pass and a free ride home when DUI, while non-locals, successful-and-attractive-african-americans and people that have crossed the local LEO get the doo-doo end of the stick.

I have no evidence he does this, but I doubt I'd go broke betting against it.

I just wasn't sure, I thought maybe there'd been a story I missed. I wouldn't have been surprised at all.


Those type stories rarely see the light of day, since most small town locals tend to support their LEO, and tend to be fine with such conduct. He does seem to enjoy such support and is only in hot water due to posting his antics on the Interwebs and drawing national attention to it. If he weren't such an AW, he'd likely have gone all the way to retirement with honors.
 
2013-10-18 10:10:50 AM  

Hobodeluxe: bullshiat. pure and utter bullshiat.


Really? I asked three seperate cops before making the post. What data do you have?
 
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