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(World Review)   A referendum for Catalan independence is looking ever more likely. Basques could then follow suit. The unthinkable could happen and Spain could fall apart   (worldreview.info) divider line 16
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2013-10-18 11:21:26 AM
2 votes:
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2013-10-18 10:30:35 AM
2 votes:

neversubmit: 1. Transfer all of Spain's debt to Catalan

2. Grant them independence

3. Profit!


You missed a few steps:

2A Catalan defaults on all the debts

2B Spain works out some kind of balanced budget deal now that they don't have interest payments to make

2C Creditors scrape up whatever they can get, but amazingly Catalan hasn't much in the way of assets that are portable

2D Catalan bankruptcy is finalized

2E Catalan applied for re-union with Spain, where they are greeted as the returning prodigal son

Then you get your 3.

Oh, and 4:  Everyone sees straight through this, can't do anything about it, but Spain never gets foreign credit again.
2013-10-18 10:18:32 AM
2 votes:

YixilTesiphon: Prophet of Loss: Maybe we can negotiate to have one of the new countries take Arizona, Texas, and Florida in exchange for something useful.

I'd rather we not lose 16% of our GDP, but good thought.


If we keep letting them elect people to Congress we may suffer that fate AND still have them around.
2013-10-18 10:18:28 AM
2 votes:
Nobody expects the Spanish decomposition.
2013-10-18 11:58:31 AM
1 votes:
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What the future borders on the Iberian Peninsula may look like.

nanim: Would an independent Catalan even be in the EU?


Probably. Scotland's holding a referendum as well and their First Minister has said that if Scotland does become independent they would join the EU.
2013-10-18 11:48:25 AM
1 votes:

adamatari: Countries are not forever things. Borders change, regions become part of it, regions break away. In the past this was usually a very violent process, at least this one is unlikely to lead to a bloody civil war.

When the US breaks up it will really be a mess... Probably another good 100 years to go, but that's what people said about the USSR too.


The US is much different.

These folks are upset about things that happened in the 1600s. All of Europe is like that.

I think Belguim will split in half since the Flemish hate the French speakers. Probably the UK will split as Scotland and Wales leave.

Eventually, Europe will be a collection of small villages that hate all outsiders.
2013-10-18 10:19:28 AM
1 votes:
1. Transfer all of Spain's debt to Catalan

2. Grant them independence

3. Profit!
2013-10-18 10:15:18 AM
1 votes:
521 years? Pretty good run.
2013-10-18 10:14:32 AM
1 votes:
I don't see this effecting a good tapas crawl.
2013-10-18 10:12:51 AM
1 votes:
Don't put all your Basques in one exit.

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2013-10-18 10:12:01 AM
1 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Maybe we can negotiate to have one of the new countries take Arizona, Texas, and Florida in exchange for something useful.


I'd rather we not lose 16% of our GDP, but good thought.
2013-10-18 10:08:29 AM
1 votes:
I was in Spain not long ago and it was very interesting to chat with people in Madrid and Barcelona about current events.

The day we left Madrid we had to fight through a violent protest to get to the train.  I always find it interesting when you go to a region of a country and never see the nation flag, but instead the flag for the region is EVERYWHERE.

/thoughts
//good luck, Spain. I like you
2013-10-18 10:07:47 AM
1 votes:
Why is it unthinkable?
2013-10-18 10:07:46 AM
1 votes:
They should've traded their sheep for more stone when they had the chance.
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2013-10-18 09:56:47 AM
1 votes:

ZAZ: With the EU taking more and more power, is there any need for intact member states?


That seems to be the thinking, but the EU doesn't seem all that powerful to me.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-10-18 09:22:50 AM
1 votes:
With the EU taking more and more power, is there any need for intact member states?
 
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