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2013-10-18 11:15:18 AM
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What a Tire Chang might look like.
 
2013-10-18 11:24:44 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-18 11:28:39 AM
I only got to "Tire cha cha" but that is because I am a deliberate speaker and stutter.
 
2013-10-18 11:43:01 AM
It's interesting to look back through the years to see how they ambled around in the pits waiting for tyres to be changed without any process streamlining.
 
2013-10-18 12:00:36 PM
That was scary fast. Obviously they didn't try and sell him the high speed balance, nitrogen in tire, four wheel alignment package.
 
2013-10-18 02:28:46 PM
Heyzues H Cryst, they actually finished faster than I do with my g/f...
 
2013-10-18 02:34:28 PM
Damn, there's a sick amount of money in F1
 
2013-10-18 02:54:23 PM

Slaxl: It's interesting to look back through the years to see how they ambled around in the pits waiting for tyres to be changed without any process streamlining.


Went to high school with this guy.
 
2013-10-18 03:05:06 PM
Was there only one bolt on the wheel?
 
2013-10-18 03:39:09 PM
yea, one big nut right in the middle
 
2013-10-18 03:49:04 PM

fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?


Most racing uses center locks.  There are even street cars that have center locks.  Mostly expensive ones, or ones where a conversion kit has been installed, but still.
 
2013-10-18 04:01:54 PM

fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?


yup, and with the car low enough, all they need to do is drop the jack handle a bit to lift the car.

I wonder if they could do something with a built in jack system on the cars, hit it with an air gun to expand, then release to drop the car back down.
 
2013-10-18 04:07:20 PM

Unoriginal_Username: fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?

yup, and with the car low enough, all they need to do is drop the jack handle a bit to lift the car.

I wonder if they could do something with a built in jack system on the cars, hit it with an air gun to expand, then release to drop the car back down.


Some of them have that, they're little rams that drop down from the bottom and lift up the car..The guys at the local Pep Boys could take some pointers from this crew, farking 2 hours to change 2 tires...
 
2013-10-18 04:08:57 PM

Unoriginal_Username: fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?

yup, and with the car low enough, all they need to do is drop the jack handle a bit to lift the car.

I wonder if they could do something with a built in jack system on the cars, hit it with an air gun to expand, then release to drop the car back down.


IndyCar uses air jacks.
 
2013-10-18 04:10:38 PM

Bruce Campbell: fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?

Most racing uses center locks.  There are even street cars that have center locks.  Mostly expensive ones, or ones where a conversion kit has been installed, but still.


Huh, learn something new every day.  That would have come in handy pulled over on the side of the freeway busting loose 5 bolts that were practically welded on.
 
2013-10-18 04:15:56 PM
if anyone watches F1, you'll see sub 3 second pit times regularly, it's absolutely insane.
 
2013-10-18 04:19:20 PM

Unoriginal_Username: fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?

yup, and with the car low enough, all they need to do is drop the jack handle a bit to lift the car.

I wonder if they could do something with a built in jack system on the cars, hit it with an air gun to expand, then release to drop the car back down.



I don't doubt it, but weight will always be king (well, prince; speed is king). Heck, they all take the risk of a single stall ending the race by not having on board starters (granted, they do have have electronic anti-stall, but still...)

I'm just not sure the gains in stop time would outweigh the risks of component failure. Heck (again), there's even been talk of setting minimum stationary time (~3 s) to avoid the wheel men accidentally sending a car out without a wheel on correctly (which nearly killed a pitlane cameraman earlier this season).The idea being that with the knowledge that they can take it 'easy', they won't be as prone to mistakes as they are when they're gunning for a sub-2 s stop.
 
2013-10-18 04:23:29 PM

StRalphTheLiar: Unoriginal_Username: fang06554: Was there only one bolt on the wheel?

yup, and with the car low enough, all they need to do is drop the jack handle a bit to lift the car.

I wonder if they could do something with a built in jack system on the cars, hit it with an air gun to expand, then release to drop the car back down.

IndyCar uses air jacks.


That's only due to coffee/smoke breaks. These guys get to smoke while the driver is having his sunday drive

I thought I remembered seeing jacks under the cars, but couldn't find anything via google to verify.

either way, these folks are pretty damn fun to watch.
 
2013-10-18 04:50:07 PM
With the new engine rules for next season is F1 staying with the no refueling rule going forward? I've heard some rumblings that certain teams don't think they'll be able to go race distance on a single tank with the v6 turbos.

Also, it's a great weekend for racing. Dega, Indycar in California, Petit Le Mans, MotoGp, WEC at COTA and V8 Supercars.
 
2013-10-18 05:56:20 PM

crotchgrabber: With the new engine rules for next season is F1 staying with the no refueling rule going forward? I've heard some rumblings that certain teams don't think they'll be able to go race distance on a single tank with the v6 turbos.

Also, it's a great weekend for racing. Dega, Indycar in California, Petit Le Mans, MotoGp, WEC at COTA and V8 Supercars.


Yeah, there will be no refuelling - the idea is to promote better fuel efficiency, so they're limited to 100kg instead of the current 150.  Ross Brawn said the numbers are working out to much better actually than the cruise-half-the-race years in the '80s, they shouldn't really be more fuel-limited than they are today.
 
2013-10-18 07:44:44 PM

michiganteddybear: yea, one big nut right in the middle


I TOLD YOU NOT TO TELL ANYONE DAMMIT!
 
2013-10-18 07:53:24 PM
The Wood Brothers nod their heads with approval.

/too obscure for young Farkers?
 
2013-10-18 08:14:06 PM

tampaflacouple: The Wood Brothers nod their heads with approval.

/too obscure for young Farkers?


Not all of us. Of course I ain't as young as I used to be, but young enough to never see the Wood Brothers when they mattered. Dad used to watch them when they came out to Riverside.
 
2013-10-18 08:30:19 PM
img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-10-18 08:40:52 PM
Lasted 3 seconds.
 
2013-10-18 09:38:48 PM
It would take me that long to realize I had a flat.
 
2013-10-18 10:15:14 PM
This.

This is how NASCAR needs to do their pits.  I am tired of waiting 13 seconds for four tires.
 
2013-10-18 11:13:56 PM
Is impressed.
bdd.worldofcars-forum.fr
 
2013-10-18 11:23:47 PM
How much time does fueling one of those up add to a pit time?
 
2013-10-18 11:49:49 PM

styckx: How much time does fueling one of those up add to a pit time?


It doesn't, F1 doesn't have in race refueling.
 
2013-10-18 11:51:03 PM
F1 is so badass. Those machines are goddamn amazing.
 
2013-10-19 12:05:52 AM
Tire Chang is my stage name when I do a Quin Woodward Pu impersonation.
 
2013-10-19 12:20:53 AM
Why don't you go around again, we're eating ice cream.  ICE CREAM!   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAnRj9e4VA

/end of the week racing thread?  love it!
 
2013-10-19 12:44:21 AM
Also, here's a hot pitstop:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6pNb5kAoXw

/1994 was the year that F1 caught locusts
//gravity refueling is safer than pressurized refueling.  Front and rear jacks are faster than pneumatic car jacks.  F1 is faster than IndyCar.

///I guess they use pneumatic jacks on Le Mans cars because it's harder to see the jack point with all that bodywork, so that makes it quicker to just hook up the hose
 
2013-10-19 02:09:24 AM
Pretty sure this has been on Fark before now, but McLaren's World Record 2.31 second pit stop:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYCODX5WnaU
 
2013-10-19 07:56:13 AM
Too bad video games don't replicate real life
www.mobygames.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FuizsIbI0U
 
2013-10-19 08:58:52 AM

Wiseass: The guys at the local Pep Boys could take some pointers from this crew, farking 2 hours to change 2 tires...


Yeah, but these guys didn't have to call their girlfriends and smoke a "cigarette"
 
2013-10-19 04:26:15 PM

styckx: How much time does fueling one of those up add to a pit time?


Back in the day ('94-'09), re-fueling would add anywhere from 3-8 seconds, depending on fuel load. The pumps operated at about 12 L/s, so if you were adding any more than 40 L (about what a modern Civic sedan holds), the hose men were the last ones standing. I can't be sure, but I think total consumption in that era (varied by track, obviously) was around 200-300 L.

So, for a 2-stop race, you're looking at, say (for easy math) 10 seconds per stop if you qualified on high fuel loads. Probably not an ideal situation for a top team, but maybe a funky strategy used by a mid-field outfit.

In the later '00s, when tires were seemingly indestructible (Indy notwithstanding), you'd have cars coming in just for fuel, which made for strange viewing as you weren't sure who was really leading 'til everyone made a stop. Which I guess is kinda like the tire situation now, though at least you can see tire degradation, both in slow-mo replay and in power oversteer/low speed  turn-in understeer.
 
2013-10-19 05:56:24 PM

AbiNormal: Is impressed.


Came for Guido leaving satisfied.
 
2013-10-19 09:28:05 PM

michiganteddybear: yea, one big nut right in the middle


(and right behind the steering wheel).

Ya gotta clarify these things.
 
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