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(NYPost)   Valerie Jarrett : Obama :: Karl Rove : Bush   (nypost.com) divider line 14
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2013-10-18 10:40:36 AM
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"President Obama's top adviser Valerie Jarrett was behind a plan to force a showdown" should be rewritten as "President Obama's top adviser Valerie Jarrett was behind a plan to provoke a showdown." Obama didn't force a shutdown anymore than a bullfighter forces a bull to charge. He just knew the bull would charge if he twirled his cape in front of it.
2013-10-18 10:43:46 AM
2 votes:

DamnYankees: "Valerie came up with the concept late at night, after the kids and grandma and were gone."

Sounds like totally legit reportage.


This is the same "reporter" that said that Obama rudely walked out of a meeting with Netanyahu in Isreal to go have dinner with Michelle and the kids.  The fact that Michelle and kids were still in the US was a fact that escaped this cutting edge reporter.
2013-10-18 10:42:25 AM
2 votes:
President Obama's top adviser Valerie Jarrett was behind a plan to force a showdown with Republicans over ObamaCare as part of a strategy to regain Democratic control of the House next year, claims author Ed Klein.


Yeah that rube goldbergian plan sounds real plausible... oh wait!

 "We're very excited," said Rep. Michele  Bachmann (R-Minn.). "It's exactly what  we wanted, and  we got it."
2013-10-18 10:54:01 PM
1 votes:

badhatharry: I particularly like how they changed strategy midstream. When they were getting bad press for not negotiating they simply say, "We have been negotiationg."

So then they have some negotiations. Republicans offer several deals. Obama rejects them all.


The CR they were fighting over WAS negotiated. There was a deal that it would be MUCH smaller than the Democrats wanted, and Boehner wouldn't start a fight about Obamacare. After someone has already gone back on a deal, why would you continue to negotiate with them?

/Funnily enough, the individual mandate they were biatching about? That was ALSO a compromise with Republicans, as the original bill had a true public option.
2013-10-18 11:20:49 AM
1 votes:
SlothB77: "It was Jarrett who advised Obama that voters would mostly blame Republicans if the federal government ground to a halt, providing a golden opportunity to swing back control of the House to Democrats in the 2014 mid-term elections, according to Klein."

basically this article admits



No. The word you're looking for is "alleges". Only a similar statement from Obama or Jarrett herself or someone else in the loop who chooses to forego anonymity could be an admission. Anything relying on unnamed sources or hearsay or even speculation is only an allegation. But no matter, perhaps I'm being pedantic. For the sake of argument let's take every statement in tfa at face value.


...two things: Obama and the dems were just as culpable in the shutdown as the republicans, perhaps even more so.  And they would be given a free pass - even though they were culpable, they would not be blamed.  And the media didn't blame them.


Tfa doesn't say anything about culpability for the shutdown. I read the same article and all I saw was discussions about strategy should the shutdown happen. Nothing more. The only possible way you could construe the White House actively making the shutdown happen from what's in tfa is to employ the 'begging the question' fallacy, the unspoken question being "should Obama immediately cave to the Republicans' demands should they hold the government hostage?".

And you pulled "perhaps even more so" out of your own ass.

Confirmation bias is loads of fun and all, but it's never a path to the truth, mmmkay?
2013-10-18 11:20:25 AM
1 votes:
If Jarret advised Obama that this would blow up in GOP's face, sound like he is surrounding himself with some pretty smart advisers.  So he's got that going for him.
2013-10-18 11:06:09 AM
1 votes:
So what did the Republicans do....Walked into her clever plan, pounded the desk like intransigent asshats before utterly capitulating...and took all the blame.....but it was their plan....
// Put on your big girl panties GOP
2013-10-18 11:03:38 AM
1 votes:
How very Machiavellian of Jarrett to realize that the public would blame Republicans for something the Republicans wanted to do.
2013-10-18 11:00:29 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: It was Jarrett who advised Obama that voters would mostly blame Republicans if the federal government ground to a halt, providing a golden opportunity to swing back control of the House to Democrats in the 2014 mid-term elections, according to Klein.

basically this article admits two things: Obama and the dems were just as culpable in the shutdown as the republicans, perhaps even more so.  And they would be given a free pass - even though they were culpable, they would not be blamed.  And the media didn't blame them.


I was unaware that Obama could control the actions of the House GOP.

/ I learned something new today!
2013-10-18 10:56:34 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: basically this article admits two things: Obama and the dems were just as culpable in the shutdown as the republicans, perhaps even more so.  And they would be given a free pass - even though they were culpable, they would not be blamed.  And the media didn't blame them.


And what's really funny is that you actually believe this.

I think you should go buy some of Ed Klein's books so you can get to the TRUTH.
2013-10-18 10:36:10 AM
1 votes:
NY Post?  Seems legit
2013-10-18 10:07:25 AM
1 votes:
So the republicans walked into an obvious trap and Obama is the 'Amateur'.
2013-10-18 09:40:23 AM
1 votes:
You spelled Dan Pfeiffer wrong. I like when an actual news article comes out days before that preemptively refutes a retard.
2013-10-18 09:12:40 AM
1 votes:
claims author Ed Klein.

Ed Klein is an author in the same sense that an asylum inmate writing on the wall in their own feces is.
 
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