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2013-10-18 04:49:55 AM

flondrix: Huck And Molly Ziegler: I see President Obama and Sen. Reid departing the peaceful town of Rock Ridge, getting into their limo and riding off into the sunset as a triumphal orchestra plays.

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x415]

He rode a blazing saddle, he wore a shining star
His job to offer battle to bad men near and far
He conquered fear and he conquered hate
He turned dark night into day
He made his blazing saddle a torch to light the way
(Ya! <whipcrack>)


"No dash gangit goll durnit! I said the President is a n-BONG!"
 
2013-10-18 04:50:03 AM

Dimensio: log_jammin: Dimeniso didn't fool me.

I had hoped the actual intent of my posting to be obvious.

/Perhaps I should have reworked it until I could insert a "potato"




Don't change a thing... Being subtle, satire and trollish worked really well.
 
2013-10-18 05:06:13 AM
I think the turning point for President Obama was how the GOP attempted to throw him under the bus rather than have his back when he was dealing with Syria. He realized there was no working with them or compromises to be made by them no matter how far he goes on his half of the deal. He realized it wasn't political posturing but hate on a personal level. So he turned the tables on them and decided to be a dick back to them. In the end, the majority of Americans finally saw the Tea Party thugs for what they are and President Obama won.
 
2013-10-18 05:08:02 AM
/looks at 2010 results

Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"

Elections have consequences when liberals win them in the mind of Obama.
 
2013-10-18 05:08:29 AM

heavymetal: I think the turning point for President Obama was how the GOP attempted to throw him under the bus rather than have his back when he was dealing with Syria. He realized there was no working with them or compromises to be made by them no matter how far he goes on his half of the deal. He realized it wasn't political posturing but hate on a personal level. So he turned the tables on them and decided to be a dick back to them. In the end, the majority of Americans finally saw the Tea Party thugs for what they are and President Obama won.


I think it might have been the Fiscal Cliff fight... but regardless of the trigger, I think we agree on the result.
 
2013-10-18 05:09:25 AM

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"

Elections have consequences when liberals win them in the mind of Obama.


I don't recall liberals shutting down the government or shutting down default when they couldn't enact their primary policy goal in 2005.
 
2013-10-18 05:10:02 AM

Rhino_man: randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"

Elections have consequences when liberals win them in the mind of Obama.

I don't recall liberals shutting down the government or shutting down threateningdefault when they couldn't enact their primary policy goal in 2005.


Preview is my friend.
 
2013-10-18 05:15:05 AM
How's that n***erdick taste, Republicans? Don't forget to work the shaft and muck out the taint.
 
2013-10-18 05:17:37 AM

heavymetal: I think the turning point for President Obama was how the GOP attempted to throw him under the bus rather than have his back when he was dealing with Syria. He realized there was no working with them or compromises to be made by them no matter how far he goes on his half of the deal. He realized it wasn't political posturing but hate on a personal level. So he turned the tables on them and decided to be a dick back to them. In the end, the majority of Americans finally saw the Tea Party thugs for what they are and President Obama won.


not being up for reelection helped a lot.
 
2013-10-18 05:18:13 AM

JesusJuice: How's that n***erdick taste, Republicans? Don't forget to work the shaft and muck out the taint.


wow....
 
2013-10-18 05:24:17 AM

log_jammin: JesusJuice: How's that n***erdick taste, Republicans? Don't forget to work the shaft and muck out the taint.

wow....


Yeah.  I don't even...


www.troll.me
 
2013-10-18 05:27:40 AM
I've had JesusJuice on ignore for a while, but IIRC, he seemed to be a troll in the style of preaching the Gospel of Supply Side Jesus.
 
2013-10-18 05:30:24 AM

Rhino_man: log_jammin: JesusJuice: How's that n***erdick taste, Republicans? Don't forget to work the shaft and muck out the taint.

wow....

Yeah.  I don't even...

[www.troll.me image 554x376]


*blink*

Okay, yeah, I'm going to bed now.

Too much whargaarble is just too much.
 
2013-10-18 05:30:24 AM
I'm sure it's just a difference of opinion is all....
 
2013-10-18 05:32:13 AM

Lando Lincoln: That's true, Grover. You guys DID win 30 Governorships. And 26 of those Governors rejected the Medicare expansion for their states, purely out of spite. And now 26 states of our Union have a lot of poor people scratching their heads, wondering why their state insurance exchanges are so crappy. And a lot of them are probably blaming it on Obama, because they don't know how their own Governors farked them over.

So...uh...good job, I guess.


It's not just that. Just as a for-instance, our Republican governor is so genuinely awful that he's pretty much locked Republicans out of the Governorship for a GENERATION. Every single Republican who runs after him is going to have to run against him. We're going to go back to rocking back and forth from two-term Democrats to two-term Independents again.
 
2013-10-18 05:35:09 AM

NeoCortex42: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: what_now: I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

If the first female president follows the first black president, the exploding heads will be oh so delicious

Don't forget, first Native American president, too.


The Super Chief
 
2013-10-18 05:51:31 AM

Shostie: A
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ALWAYS

BE

LEGISLATING


I chuckled.
 
2013-10-18 06:17:06 AM

GardenWeasel: what_now: p>Obama urged Congress to "stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers, the talking heads on radio and the professional activists who profit from conflict" --

Damn.

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You know, I was waiting for someone to post Vir's excellent rant at Morden in one of the threads on the ongoing "negotiations".  A bit late, but f%$# it, why not:

I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would gaze up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this.

upload.wikimedia.org

Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden McConnell?
 
2013-10-18 06:47:15 AM
They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.
 
2013-10-18 06:51:28 AM
The GOP farked themselves in this whole debacle... If their asses are sore, they have no one to blame but themselves.

They gave the most extreme elements in their party the keys to the bus, refused to take them away and now they're all scratching their heads trying to figure out how the bus got run into a ditch.

The GOP is nothing but a gaggle of proudly ignorant ideologues.
 
2013-10-18 06:55:10 AM

doyner: DamnYankees: At some point he's gonna write one hell of a post-Presidency memoir describing these nutjobs.

What the hell can he say that isn't already blatantly obvious?

And it'll only get worse.  From Carter hate, to the Clinton impeachment, to seekrit muslin, this is the new normal.  EVERY Democrat president will go through this for the foreseeable future.


This is why if they have a great female candidate for President at some point in the near future, the Democrats would really benefit long term if they could get her elected President - you just know they will pile on the misogyny so thick for years they GOP couldn't fail to permanently alienate millions of women
 
2013-10-18 07:00:03 AM

Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.


They did not win enough elections to choose how the nation is run.  And even if they did, refusing to do their jobs for the past 3 years, and trying to bring down the nation from within is not appropriate.
 
2013-10-18 07:02:26 AM
peasandcarrots:
It's not just that. Just as a for-instance, our Republican governor is so genuinely awful that he's pretty much locked Republicans out of the Governorship for a GENERATION. Every single Republican who runs after him is going to have to run against him. We're going to go back to rocking back and forth from two-term Democrats to two-term Independents again.

And at the federal level, running complete nuts lost them at least three Senate seats in 2010. They doubled down on the derp in 2012, and it cost them at least two more that they ought to have won. They'll probably run more unelectable candidates in 2014, which will allow the Democrats to keep the Senate until 2016, which should be a bloodbath given the seats being defenderd. And they've turned the House -- which, structurally, should be theirs for a decade -- into a possible contest in the next cycle.

All they had to do after Obama was elected for the first time: oppose, to the extent that the minority party always opposes, and wait for the correction to the 2008 landslide that was always going to happen, given that the economy was always going to continue sucking short-term. But nope, they had to go full retard, and now they have at least eight years of a Democratic president, potentially a decade or more of Democratic Senate control, a bloody civil war and a bunch of purple states that likely won't be electing Republican governors for many years to come.

And such is the irony of Obama's tenure, that a guy who was elected with the genuine intention of getting shiat done even if it meant major concessions in the spirit of bipartisanship may be on his way to being remembered as the president who crushed his opponents beneath his heel, simply by existing.
 
2013-10-18 07:15:08 AM

DamnYankees: At some point he's gonna write one hell of a post-Presidency memoir describing these nutjobs.


I would read the HELL out of that book.
 
2013-10-18 07:19:24 AM

Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.


You don't seem to understand that 78 representatives from 30 states signed a letter to Boner insisting that he go along with their cunning plan. He did, even though the house had the votes to pass the clean CR and debt ceiling without them. Boner refused to schedule a vote because he was using the Hastert Rule, which says that the (R) rethuglickers have to have a majority of their people on board with any given piece of legislation in order to bring it to a vote - the "majority of a majority" rule.
He did it until things started to explode, then just ignored it and allowed a vote, which passed the bills hastily at the very last moment.

This is all on Boner's head.
 
2013-10-18 07:33:54 AM

what_now:  I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren


Bout time for a teddy Roosevelt corporate monopoly busting president...
 
2013-10-18 07:37:19 AM

Virulency: what_now:  I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

Bout time for a teddy Roosevelt corporate monopoly busting president...


I'd prefer to keep her on the Senate Banking Committee.  It's where she can do the most good.
 
2013-10-18 07:38:45 AM

what_now: NeoCortex42: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: what_now: I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

If the first female president follows the first black president, the exploding heads will be oh so delicious

Don't forget, first Native American president, too.

And an actual liberal.


Who cares if they call her a super liberal; she actually is (by today's standards).  It only perturbs me that they use that language with Obama because he's centrist if not center-right.
 
2013-10-18 07:40:05 AM

Alphax: Virulency: what_now:  I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

Bout time for a teddy Roosevelt corporate monopoly busting president...

I'd prefer to keep her on the Senate Banking Committee.  It's where she can do the most good.


OK, how about Russ Feingold?


/I read "While America Sleeps" a few months back.
 
2013-10-18 07:41:26 AM

Yes please: Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions.


or you don't understand how laws are passed and repealed.
 
2013-10-18 07:42:58 AM

EyeballKid: Alphax: Virulency: what_now:  I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

Bout time for a teddy Roosevelt corporate monopoly busting president...

I'd prefer to keep her on the Senate Banking Committee.  It's where she can do the most good.

OK, how about Russ Feingold?


/I read "While America Sleeps" a few months back.


Since he's not in office now, sure.
 
2013-10-18 07:52:11 AM
He's just echoing what the head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh, said a few years back when liberals complained about Bush the Lesser.

Win some elections, until then SHUT UP!
 
2013-10-18 07:53:54 AM

Czechzican: Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Duckworth in 2016.. that'd be epic..


It would be fun to see the Republican outrage against Duckworth ("She never apologized to America for getting her legs blown off, so this is just another reason why women shouldn't be in the military. Oh, and gays, too, for good measure").

Granted, we already saw a bit of this with Joe Walsh: "God, all she talks about is her military service. True Heroes...that's the last thing in the world that they want to talk about."
 
2013-10-18 08:00:21 AM

Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.



Your analogy is a loaded statement.
The President is a dictator or he is stupid to understand constitutional procedure.

Everyone seems to gloss over the procedural maneuver the Republicans used to bring the government to a halt.

Looked like the Republicans unionized and stopped worked until their demands were met.
I know several companies in the south that would shutter a plant, fire all employees and start a rehiring than give in to those tactics but that's a parliamentary system. That's a mixed metaphor.

So the GOP for unions and striking huh?
 
2013-10-18 08:08:16 AM
I seem to recall kinda vaguely some guy named...uh....Greg or George or Walker or was that Wanker, possibly joking about himself being some sorta non-elected type of head of state, or whatever, because heh heh heh it would make his job easier as long as it was him.

Can anyone fill me in on specific details, or am I just hallucinating?
 
2013-10-18 08:13:24 AM

Kittypie070: I seem to recall kinda vaguely some guy named...uh....Greg or George or Walker or was that Wanker, possibly joking about himself being some sorta non-elected type of head of state, or whatever, because heh heh heh it would make his job easier as long as it was him.

Can anyone fill me in on specific details, or am I just hallucinating?


None of the libertarians on Fark know this enigmatic, nameless character of whom you speak. Maybe, they propose, he only existed in our imagination.
 
2013-10-18 08:14:28 AM
Okay folks, you have until Monday to get this celebration out of your systems, then we need to focus.  The nation is still redistricted all to hell and back, the teabaggers are TALKING about "just not voting, in protest" but they specialize in talking big before marching to the nearest authoritarian's orders.

Come January this shiatstorm rolls in again.  Ted Cruz is still in office, the Republicans haven't allowed a budget to pass in 5 years, and the media is still droning "BSABSVR, BSABSVR, BSABSVR," like cultists on acid.
 
2013-10-18 08:15:31 AM

EyeballKid: Kittypie070: I seem to recall kinda vaguely some guy named...uh....Greg or George or Walker or was that Wanker, possibly joking about himself being some sorta non-elected type of head of state, or whatever, because heh heh heh it would make his job easier as long as it was him.

Can anyone fill me in on specific details, or am I just hallucinating?

None of the libertarians on Fark know this enigmatic, nameless character of whom you speak. Maybe, they propose, he only existed in our imagination.


I have no idea who you're talking about. Besides, he was a RINO and no one supported him, and he was the best president of the last 20 years so shut your mouth.
 
2013-10-18 08:16:34 AM

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"

Elections have consequences when liberals win them in the mind of Obama.


You're correct.  They complained, and loudly.  Then, after they had used the system to compromise on what they could and cast a no vote where they wanted to, they let the policy stand.  They did not attempt to shut down the government in order to defund the war in Iraq.
 
2013-10-18 08:18:12 AM

NeoCortex42: Well, he's not wrong.

When the Republicans win, it's a mandate by the people to follow through on their policies.
When the Republicans lose, it's only because the will of the people was ignored and it's up to them to push through their policies.

Once the GOP embraces reality, maybe they'll have more success.

 
2013-10-18 08:22:20 AM

Bocasio: NeoCortex42: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: what_now: I don't know he the leading candidate would be right now.  I'm not sure if there's any obvious front-runners for it, other than maybe Biden?


Elizabeth Warren

If the first female president follows the first black president, the exploding heads will be oh so delicious

Don't forget, first Native American president, too.

The Super Chief


She's a Super Chief, Super Chief, she super-chiefy...
 
2013-10-18 08:23:23 AM

Alphax: Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.

They did not win enough elections to choose how the nation is run.  And even if they did, refusing to do their jobs for the past 3 years, and trying to bring down the nation from within is not appropriate.


So if you're not in the majority, you (and by extension, the people you represent) don't matter? If that was what I was being told I wouldn't show up for work either.
 
2013-10-18 08:31:33 AM

Yes please: Alphax: Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.

They did not win enough elections to choose how the nation is run.  And even if they did, refusing to do their jobs for the past 3 years, and trying to bring down the nation from within is not appropriate.

So if you're not in the majority, you (and by extension, the people you represent) don't matter? If that was what I was being told I wouldn't show up for work either.


You're intentionally conflating "shutting down everything" with "normal legislative process". They can do as much of the latter as they want, be as vocal as they want. But they can't just oppose everything and shut the government down.

Those are the only limits being proposed. Nobody is trying to disempower the minority.
 
2013-10-18 08:32:11 AM
ABC

ALWAYS

BE

...Congressing?
 
2013-10-18 08:34:33 AM

randomjsa: Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"


No, the 2004 election resulted in me saying "Why did these paperless voting machines in Ohio report more votes for Bush than there were people in the precinct?  Could it have something to do with the president of Diebold publicaly promising to deliver Ohio to president Bush?"
 
2013-10-18 08:40:39 AM

LasersHurt: Yes please: Alphax: Yes please: They did win elections. That's precisely why they're able to cause such difficulty for Obama. Either he's suggesting this should be a dictatorship or he doesn't understand how congressmen get their positions. I doubt it's the latter.

They did not win enough elections to choose how the nation is run.  And even if they did, refusing to do their jobs for the past 3 years, and trying to bring down the nation from within is not appropriate.

So if you're not in the majority, you (and by extension, the people you represent) don't matter? If that was what I was being told I wouldn't show up for work either.

You're intentionally conflating "shutting down everything" with "normal legislative process". They can do as much of the latter as they want, be as vocal as they want. But they can't just oppose everything and shut the government down.

Those are the only limits being proposed. Nobody is trying to disempower the minority.


I'm not conflating. I actually agree with you in general, up until your last sentence. But in his words yesterday Obama seems to be explicitly saying that.
 
2013-10-18 08:42:30 AM

NeoCortex42: doyner: nmrsnr: RedPhoenix122: "Can we trust her not to gamble away our future?"

That's tame. I'm thinking photoshop and feathered headdresses, and for the more esoteric, photoshop and Custer's Revenge references. But maybe I'm just a terrible person.

"We have reservations"

"Why does she insist on destroying the TP?"
"She says she's going to ______.  I have one question: How?"


Blanket statements.
 
2013-10-18 08:42:45 AM

TheBigJerk: Okay folks, you have until Monday to get this celebration out of your systems, then we need to focus.  The nation is still redistricted all to hell and back, the teabaggers are TALKING about "just not voting, in protest" but they specialize in talking big before marching to the nearest authoritarian's orders.

Come January this shiatstorm rolls in again.  Ted Cruz is still in office, the Republicans haven't allowed a budget to pass in 5 years, and the media is still droning "BSABSVR, BSABSVR, BSABSVR," like cultists on acid.


Dude...you think I'm gonna forget?

I'll be keeping an eye on the ^VIX come January anyhow so the regular media doesn't farking Hitler me again.

^VIX reading at 20 and under = good, approaching 30 = not good, over 30 = EVERYBODY RHUMBAAAAAAAA.

I just need to know specifics on what to do other than this.
 
2013-10-18 08:46:09 AM

flondrix: randomjsa: Yeah, about that. I don't recall the 2004 election results resulting in liberals nation wise saying "Oh well we just have to do what Bush wants then"

No, the 2004 election resulted in me saying "Why did these paperless voting machines in Ohio report more votes for Bush than there were people in the precinct?  Could it have something to do with the president of Diebold publicaly promising to deliver Ohio to president Bush?"


Crazy, 'cos it had me saying, "Wait a minute. Isn't Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell also co-chairman of the Bush Cheney campaign? Didn't he throw out a lot of votes? How is that legal in any allegedly democratic republic?"
 
2013-10-18 08:47:22 AM
The mishigoss in Washington apparently cost the country $24 billion. My personal loss comes to $80, which is not so much when you think about it. If you are a Tea Party/Republican/supporter of the shutdown, I'd appreciate reimbursement. Check or money order is fine. I also accept PayPal.
 
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