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(CBS New York)   Here's a shocker: The biggest control freak in the known universe isn't a fan of Banksy   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 159
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2013-10-17 07:16:09 PM  

ManateeGag: Ricardo Klement: I'm generally not a fan of graffiti, but Banksy is an artist in the true meaning of the word.

And he should nevertheless pay for his crimes like anyone else.

B...b...b...but he's not hurting anyone and it's a stupid law anyway.  we should be able to break laws we don't agree with.


According to Martin Luther King we are not only able to break laws we disagree with, but obligated by our morality to openly break unjust laws. Imagine that.. in a country where money = speech the act of reclaiming public space for individual expression is an overtly political act, whatever you think of the artistic merits of individual works of graffiti.
 
2013-10-17 07:16:33 PM  
obglitory NY Mayor / Graffiti video

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2013-10-17 07:17:23 PM  

Inchoate: Damn, lots of sticks up lots of asses in this thread.

Most graffiti/street art shows up on surfaces that were already artless eyesores. If someone turns a drab building side or overpass or construction fence (etc.) into something colorful, cheeky or thought-provoking, I honestly don't understand why people care. Is the property-rights-über-alles boner really so amazing?

I understand that the actual authorities need to adopt a "now now, all of this is really against the rules" stance to preserve that side of the chaos-vs.-order balance, but man, you guys.


Don't be surprised. In a world where HOA's are a thing.
 
2013-10-17 07:17:52 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Giant Clown Shoe: Active buffer here.

I don't cover street art unless asked to by the property owner.  I do cover tags of every kind on all types of public property.  I always use as close to the the color paint that was originally defaced as possible (the silver buff is an example of an attention whore vandal just like the taggers he purportedly battles) and don't hesitate spending $50-$80 a night on high quality Krylon. F the vandals.  And I don't sneak around.  Three of us pull up and openly cover... sometimes it takes 15-20 minutes to take care of an entire intersection.  Police and neighbors praise us.  And w/ cc a matter of months away it won't just be a couple of aggressive looking dogs and 17% OC pepper gel for any shiatbird that has a problem with it.

We currently don't cover wheat pasting.  Unfortunately someone told me gang members are wheat pasting tags amid the art in certain communities.  If this is true I'll cover that shiat too.

/by the way to any Chicago vandals, your boy "werm" got what he deserved.  Hope you get it next.

Wow you're a regular Frank Castle.

Giant Clown Shoe: Also, almost forgot... fark Banksy.

Hope I get a chance to give him a tattoo while he's taking an roofie/ ether nap.  He's a criminal.

We've been compiling addresses of Chicago taggers w/ the help of a few cops.  We're going to deface their homes on Halloween...  "A TAGGER LIVES HERE" on the garages, doors and cars of the vandals.

/f banksy

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Nope just a property owner sick as fark of little pussies pissing their names onto my garages and buildings in the middle of the night. 

You enjoy the "art" of it? Cool... invite one of these punks to paint something you own.  If not have the balls to do it in daylight or shut the fark up and leave it to the two groups actually on the street.  You like taggers? F u.  I'm a buffer.  And unlike the taggers we have the police, the community and the law on our side.  Only one tagger fell to his death this summer here.  That's two less than last year... hoping the law of averages produces a late surge.
 
2013-10-17 07:18:51 PM  
Damnit, it dropped my image..
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-17 07:23:50 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: According to Martin Luther King we are not only able to break laws we disagree with, but obligated by our morality to openly break unjust laws. Imagine that.. in a country where money = speech the act of reclaiming public space for individual expression is an overtly political act, whatever you think of the artistic merits of individual works of graffiti.


So Martin Luther King wanted some shiatbird with $15 worth of spray paint to ruin the side of my three flat?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ziggin_breaf1/8620315407/

Doubtful...
 
2013-10-17 07:24:42 PM  
There is a bridge near me that is held up on wooden cribbing because the cement pillars are crumbling away. Tens of thousands of cars go under it every day, and there are no plans to fix it.

One day, It's going to fall down and cause a horrific accident.

But don't worry about the bridge. get rid of that farking graffiti.

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/I wish we had more stuff like this around. I like it.
//We've got murals all over walls in the city already.
 
Al!
2013-10-17 07:26:19 PM  

dehehn: ArcadianRefugee: His art was an advert for him.

His art is not an advert for him, it's an advert for his ideas, like all art.  And he has interesting ideas that make people think about the world differently, the best kind of art.

He's well aware it's illegal, and no one is disputing that he should be tried for his crimes if he's caught.  But that doesn't mean we're going to root for the authorities trying to catch him.  Most people these days would be thrilled to have his art on their building, and it would probably raise the value.  If the city wiped a Banksy off my building I would sue them for vandalism.

We get it, you don't like art or beauty or people who go beyond cultural norms to make a point and have an impact.  I'm sure you make a fine accountant and bore your wife to death.


You've been fooled.  If you don't believe it is an advert for Banksy, then what you believe is wrong.  I love art, but what he does is sensationalism.  He's not decrying the very machine that has made him very, very wealthy.  He's supporting it, and laughing all the way to the bank because hipsters and pseudo-hipsters like yourself think he's edgy and cool.  He isn't.  Van Gogh and Pollock are (were?) edgy and cool.  Banksy is advertising for people who hate advertising.  He works in advertising, and not through the murals you see in the news.  He literally sells his work to major corporations.  Look up the Bogside Artists if you want to see graffiti that portrays a social message.  Look up Banksy if you want to see someone who had made millions pretending to be someone he's not.
 
2013-10-17 07:26:56 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Agent Smiths Laugh: Giant Clown Shoe: yelling at clouds and licking of boots


God damn, you not only actually think people deserve DEATH for spray-painting walls, you're downright gleeful about it. Listen to yourself, man. You might want to talk to a mental health professional. :(
 
2013-10-17 07:30:54 PM  

Al!: He's not decrying the very machine that has made him very, very wealthy.


Someone happy to be paid for their art?

/imagine that...
 
2013-10-17 07:31:17 PM  

FTGodWin: So... what's his opinion of Omar?


I hear they're tight.
i1280.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-17 07:31:43 PM  
I'm not a fan of Banksy either.

Spray paint's a nice medium, and he's got chops, but I don't care for it. Glad he's got a career, but whateves.

Now Howard Taylor? That's sn artist.
 
2013-10-17 07:33:25 PM  
Giant Clown Shoe:

He is the root of the current problem.  Either a long fall or ass cancer... either is fine with me.


I hope you're talking about Bloomberg..
 
2013-10-17 07:33:41 PM  

Inchoate: Damn, lots of sticks up lots of asses in this thread.

Most graffiti/street art shows up on surfaces that were already artless eyesores. If someone turns a drab building side or overpass or construction fence (etc.) into something colorful, cheeky or thought-provoking, I honestly don't understand why people care. Is the property-rights-über-alles boner really so amazing?

I understand that the actual authorities need to adopt a "now now, all of this is really against the rules" stance to preserve that side of the chaos-vs.-order balance, but man, you guys.


Sadly, most tagging is mere vandalism with absolutely no artistic vision. Completely worthless trite crap, it is like a carbuncle on the face of a syphilitic hooker.
 
2013-10-17 07:35:11 PM  
Heavy in here!

I fricken love graffiti art and I find Banksy's tactics to be fascinating, but if anyone did that to my house, Giant Clown Shoe, I would lose my shiat.
 
2013-10-17 07:35:36 PM  
Banksy is more than welcome to bring his ass about 4 hours down I-95 To Richmond Virginia and diddle up anything he wants.

We have a community down here that would love to have him and would appreciate his work
 
2013-10-17 07:35:42 PM  

Inchoate: Giant Clown Shoe: Agent Smiths Laugh: Giant Clown Shoe: yelling at clouds and licking of boots

God damn, you not only actually think people deserve DEATH for spray-painting walls, you're downright gleeful about it. Listen to yourself, man. You might want to talk to a mental health professional. :(


How much money would you have to spend to repair vandalism before you wished death on the person committing it?

1K? 10K?  50K?  100K?  500K? More?

How many hours of applying acid to brick and covering it with sheeting before you spend an entire day trying to scrub the paint from each crevice with a wire brush before you'd be happy to know the specific person who'd defaced your property would never do it again?

40hrs? 160hrs? 500hrs?

How much would have to be stolen from you before you were willing to defend your property by taking a life?  I've spent the last decade dealing with this on an almost daily basis and I've had enough. 
Enough in time and money and effort and I am glad "werm" won't be ruining anymore of my property.  F him.

It's easy to be a sophisticated lover of urban art when you have no skin in the game.
 
2013-10-17 07:37:58 PM  

Salmon: Heavy in here!

I fricken love graffiti art and I find Banksy's tactics to be fascinating, but if anyone did that to my house, Giant Clown Shoe, I would lose my shiat.


So you want both sides of a coin where you can only pick one... Banksy is ok but "werm" isn't?

Pick a lane.
 
2013-10-17 07:38:57 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: Banksy is more than welcome to bring his ass about 4 hours down I-95 To Richmond Virginia and diddle up anything he wants.

We have a community down here that would love to have him and would appreciate his work


Nickel Bridge ftw
 
2013-10-17 07:40:20 PM  

Al!: Pollock [is] ([was]?) edgy and cool


Pollock is a drunk who couldn't draw a circle if his line depended on it. Everyone who ever spend millions on one of his I-drank-too-much-and-lost-fine-motor-control-so-lets-throw-some-paint- at-a-canvas-and-call-it-a-day paintings deserves to be kicked in the balls. Repeatedly.
 
2013-10-17 07:41:07 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: We've been compiling addresses of Chicago taggers w/ the help of a few cops. We're going to deface their homes on Halloween... "A TAGGER LIVES HERE" on the garages, doors and cars of the vandals.


What on earth do you think that would accomplish?
 
2013-10-17 07:41:50 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Nope just a property owner sick as fark of little pussies pissing their names onto my garages and buildings in the middle of the night.


I hope they keep doing it just to watch the vein on your forehead throb.

/I bet that's why they keep doing it in fact.
 
2013-10-17 07:42:28 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: What on earth do you think that would accomplish


Get him arrested for tagging
 
2013-10-17 07:42:34 PM  
i1280.photobucket.com
Quality varies.
 
2013-10-17 07:46:09 PM  
Vandalism is a crime, The fact that it's decent looking make no difference, the guy should be arrested and pay for removal of every piece of property he's defaced.
 
2013-10-17 07:47:10 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Giant Clown Shoe: We've been compiling addresses of Chicago taggers w/ the help of a few cops. We're going to deface their homes on Halloween... "A TAGGER LIVES HERE" on the garages, doors and cars of the vandals.

What on earth do you think that would accomplish?


I dunno, but tagging tagger's houses with bad graffiti is a fun idea.
 
2013-10-17 07:48:29 PM  
His work has sold for millions to the likes of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. But no one has ever so much as confirmed his real name.

I think if you're a multimillionaire who has made their fortune off mass marketed mainstream movies and you pay millions of dollars for a Banksy piece then you might be missing the point.

I suppose congratulations to whoever sold it to them...
 
2013-10-17 07:53:35 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Clemkadidlefark: Banksy defaces private property. Fark him. Graffiti is for 60 year old squares and so yesterday it makes Britney Spears look current.

I KNOW!!!

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue on and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there's doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

-Pete Seeger

/this is so much better, ain't it?


I love you for this, and especially for attributing it to Pete Seeger. That man is a farking legend when it comes to folk music.
 
2013-10-17 07:55:42 PM  

Al!: dehehn: ArcadianRefugee: His art was an advert for him.

His art is not an advert for him, it's an advert for his ideas, like all art.  And he has interesting ideas that make people think about the world differently, the best kind of art.

He's well aware it's illegal, and no one is disputing that he should be tried for his crimes if he's caught.  But that doesn't mean we're going to root for the authorities trying to catch him.  Most people these days would be thrilled to have his art on their building, and it would probably raise the value.  If the city wiped a Banksy off my building I would sue them for vandalism.

We get it, you don't like art or beauty or people who go beyond cultural norms to make a point and have an impact.  I'm sure you make a fine accountant and bore your wife to death.

You've been fooled.  If you don't believe it is an advert for Banksy, then what you believe is wrong.  I love art, but what he does is sensationalism.  He's not decrying the very machine that has made him very, very wealthy.  He's supporting it, and laughing all the way to the bank because hipsters and pseudo-hipsters like yourself think he's edgy and cool.  He isn't.  Van Gogh and Pollock are (were?) edgy and cool.  Banksy is advertising for people who hate advertising.  He works in advertising, and not through the murals you see in the news.  He literally sells his work to major corporations.  Look up the Bogside Artists if you want to see graffiti that portrays a social message.  Look up Banksy if you want to see someone who had made millions pretending to be someone he's not.


You don't know many artists, do you? Most are shameless self-promoters and would kill their mother if it meant someone would pay attention to their work. I don't say this as an insult, just an observation made by an art lover. Art is the ultimate exercise in self-promotion, it has to be.
 
2013-10-17 07:59:00 PM  

doglover: Noticeably F.A.T.: Giant Clown Shoe: We've been compiling addresses of Chicago taggers w/ the help of a few cops. We're going to deface their homes on Halloween... "A TAGGER LIVES HERE" on the garages, doors and cars of the vandals.

What on earth do you think that would accomplish?

I dunno, but tagging tagger's houses with bad graffiti is a fun idea.


Well, sure. I'm just a little curious as to how a person manages to compartmentalize their thoughts enough to not be suffering acute cognitive dissonance from simutaniously thinking "Vandalism is the worst crime ever, enough that I feel the need to patrol the streets as the Krylon Krusader" and "I'mma fark these guys' houses up". Unless of course he's just thinking that breaking the law for some straight-up revenge (not justice, though I'm sure he's thinking that's what it is) is A-Ok, but then that doesn't jive with the apparent attempt to convince everyone that he's some sort of moral crusader. How do you claim that breaking the law is never ok, then brag about your plans to break the law?

/In reality, I'm just wondering how he's going to spin his troll as I don't believe any part of his story.
 
2013-10-17 08:00:08 PM  

Inchoate: God damn, you not only actually think people deserve DEATH for spray-painting walls, you're downright gleeful about it.


It isn't the spray painting.  Spray paint away, Live it up. Get an MFA and express yourself!

Stay the fark away from my property.  Stay the fark away from the parks and the signs and the mailboxes and the bus stops in my community.  Your expression with your spray paint and your paint markers create an environment where property value falls and people are afraid to use areas of the city that are theirs because the average mom with a stroller doesn't know the difference between some cock's scribble and a gang claiming their alley.  We pay the property taxes.  We clean up the parkways and the alleys and the "artists" take it from us.  They take our money and our time and our neighborhoods.

So spray paint anything you legally own.  Anything else and  I hope you fall to your death.

Cumulative hatred... more than a decade. fark every one of them.
 
2013-10-17 08:01:22 PM  
This thread is good for showing who the people who own no property are since property owners would have a problem with this guy defacing someone's property, regardless of his excuse for doing so.
 
2013-10-17 08:04:43 PM  

fluffy2097: Giant Clown Shoe: Nope just a property owner sick as fark of little pussies pissing their names onto my garages and buildings in the middle of the night.

I hope they keep doing it just to watch the vein on your forehead throb.

/I bet that's why they keep doing it in fact.


Yes that's why there is poor quality scribble and websites ranking different shiatbirds as "all-city" because it makes property owners mad.  Are you serious?  These are scared little weasels, unable to assert themselves in any way in the daylight so they crawl through alleys at night and mark like a dog.  Then they come back and take pictures like an arsonist at their fire.  They then post it online for the accolades of their subculture peers.  They don't care about me or my property.  And they never will... until one gets shot in one of my alleys.  That would be a farking shame.
 
2013-10-17 08:04:47 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Inchoate: Giant Clown Shoe: Agent Smiths Laugh: Giant Clown Shoe: yelling at clouds and licking of boots

God damn, you not only actually think people deserve DEATH for spray-painting walls, you're downright gleeful about it. Listen to yourself, man. You might want to talk to a mental health professional. :(

How much money would you have to spend to repair vandalism before you wished death on the person committing


The life of a person, even a costly and annoying person, is worth more than all the vinyl siding you or I can buy.

Frankly, if you're constantly dropping multiple tens of thousands of dollars and who even knows how much stress on reversing taggers' graffiti, you may wish to relocate or at least do a CBA on your business situation.

I sympathize with people's frustration to an extent (particularly with fugly graffiti or tags that interfere with windows/other functional items), but if you really do wish death on people for freakin' graffiti, I pity you. :(
 
2013-10-17 08:07:02 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Clemkadidlefark: Banksy defaces private property. Fark him. Graffiti is for 60 year old squares and so yesterday it makes Britney Spears look current.

I KNOW!!!

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue on and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there's doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

-Pete Seeger

/this is so much better, ain't it?


No one is stopping you from buying your own property and tagging the shiat out of it. Don't do it on property that does not belong to you. Simple concept.
 
2013-10-17 08:09:56 PM  

69gnarkill69: Clemkadidlefark: Banksy defaces private property. Fark him. Graffiti is for 60 year old squares and so yesterday it makes Britney Spears look current.

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Whatever dude.


Nice works of art, and you know what?  There are plenty of other graffiti artists out there that would not hesitate for a moment to put their tags right on top of those works of art because they also see themselves as artists.
 
2013-10-17 08:09:58 PM  
As an architect, I think graffiti, both as an artistic and social expression, is important.

Graffiti helps you see certain issues that we might overlook, or help us state the obvious. Tags are a sign of desperation, rage, venting anger, signs of general displeasure of the city, how it grows and develops. Street art is, quite honestly, human expression without the constraints of certain rules.

People that usually complain about tagging have the right of it, because tags in themselves are a complain of the voiceless. Improve a community and the tags transform into graffiti, or they stop.
 
2013-10-17 08:10:12 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: fluffy2097: Giant Clown Shoe: Nope just a property owner sick as fark of little pussies pissing their names onto my garages and buildings in the middle of the night.

I hope they keep doing it just to watch the vein on your forehead throb.

/I bet that's why they keep doing it in fact.

Yes that's why there is poor quality scribble and websites ranking different shiatbirds as "all-city" because it makes property owners mad.  Are you serious?  These are scared little weasels, unable to assert themselves in any way in the daylight so they crawl through alleys at night and mark like a dog.  Then they come back and take pictures like an arsonist at their fire.  They then post it online for the accolades of their subculture peers.  They don't care about me or my property.  And they never will... until one gets shot in one of my alleys.  That would be a farking shame.


lol, I can see that vein throbbing all the way in Seattle
 
2013-10-17 08:14:22 PM  

Mija: No one is stopping you from buying your own property and tagging the shiat out of it. Don't do it on property that does not belong to you. Simple concept.


Fine, we'll do it on the sidewalk.

argotandochre.com

24.media.tumblr.com

www.sketchy.com
 
2013-10-17 08:14:59 PM  

Mija: No one is stopping you from buying your own property and tagging the shiat out of it. Don't do it on property that does not belong to you. Simple concept


I own my own property, and I'm not, nor have I ever been a tagger. Nor is Banksy.

/conform
 
2013-10-17 08:16:38 PM  

Latinwolf: This thread is good for showing who the people who own no property are since property owners would have a problem with this guy defacing someone's property, regardless of his excuse for doing so.


Almost all the people whose houses he's painted something in have been happy with it, either because they sold it for a ton of money or because they liked the piece and kept it.
 
2013-10-17 08:19:50 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: , I'm just wondering how he's going to spin his troll as I don't believe any part of his story.


So I just happen to know the tag of a guy who fell to his death this summer?  I have no vested interest?  I know what buffing is and know that the silver buff in Portland is a dick and an attention whore?  And I'm taking this position here for what? For fun?  Which part is a lie?  The property?  The buffing?  The being furious? 

And I'm not a moral crusader.  I'm a guy who is sick as fark of cleaning my properties and my neighborhood and I'm not alone.  So not alone that several other property owners and I buff (it took one of the younger guys to clue me into that term and a movie on netflix where the taggers try to paint the "buffers" as the bad guys).  And there are cops that live in my neighborhood who are also sick of the rampant tagging and have given us the addresses of several prolific taggers.  I'm not claiming any moral high ground... fark that.  I'm ready to get in the farking gutter.  Have you ever tried to remove what remains of spray paint from brick after the city sand blasts it?  It's virtually impossible. It takes hours and hours and hours and a faint outline still remains.

I'm going to ensure the families of these farks get to find out first hand how hard it is to clean, how expensive it is to clean, what a pain in the ass it is to clean and most importantly all their neighbors will know their sons are the ones ruining the neighborhood... renters are off the list.  shiatbirds who live with their parents are going to wake up to a farking mess.

I don't give a rat's ass if what I'm doing is "right".  I'm done going to CAPS meetings and asking the alderman for help.  I'm taking it out on these little farks every chance I get.  They've cost me a small fortune and hundreds of hours of cleaning.  And I hope they all fall.  I'm deadly serious.
 
2013-10-17 08:22:23 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: lol, I can see that vein throbbing all the way in Seattle


And when you grow up and live in a big boy house when someone farks with it you'll get that vein too.

/or you'll keep going to band practice well into your 50's and rent from someone like me.
 
2013-10-17 08:22:36 PM  

Earguy: [images.elephantjournal.com image 850x1202]


Did he actually say that nonsense? I was ok with him until reading that whiny crap.
 
2013-10-17 08:22:43 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Noticeably F.A.T.: , I'm just wondering how he's going to spin his troll as I don't believe any part of his story.

So I just happen to know the tag of a guy who fell to his death this summer?  I have no vested interest?  I know what buffing is and know that the silver buff in Portland is a dick and an attention whore?  And I'm taking this position here for what? For fun?  Which part is a lie?  The property?  The buffing?  The being furious? 

And I'm not a moral crusader.  I'm a guy who is sick as fark of cleaning my properties and my neighborhood and I'm not alone.  So not alone that several other property owners and I buff (it took one of the younger guys to clue me into that term and a movie on netflix where the taggers try to paint the "buffers" as the bad guys).  And there are cops that live in my neighborhood who are also sick of the rampant tagging and have given us the addresses of several prolific taggers.  I'm not claiming any moral high ground... fark that.  I'm ready to get in the farking gutter.  Have you ever tried to remove what remains of spray paint from brick after the city sand blasts it?  It's virtually impossible. It takes hours and hours and hours and a faint outline still remains.

I'm going to ensure the families of these farks get to find out first hand how hard it is to clean, how expensive it is to clean, what a pain in the ass it is to clean and most importantly all their neighbors will know their sons are the ones ruining the neighborhood... renters are off the list.  shiatbirds who live with their parents are going to wake up to a farking mess.

I don't give a rat's ass if what I'm doing is "right".  I'm done going to CAPS meetings and asking the alderman for help.  I'm taking it out on these little farks every chance I get.  They've cost me a small fortune and hundreds of hours of cleaning.  And I hope they all fall.  I'm deadly serious.


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2013-10-17 08:24:52 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: fluffy2097: Giant Clown Shoe: Nope just a property owner sick as fark of little pussies pissing their names onto my garages and buildings in the middle of the night.

I hope they keep doing it just to watch the vein on your forehead throb.

/I bet that's why they keep doing it in fact.

Yes that's why there is poor quality scribble and websites ranking different shiatbirds as "all-city" because it makes property owners mad.  Are you serious?  These are scared little weasels, unable to assert themselves in any way in the daylight so they crawl through alleys at night and mark like a dog.  Then they come back and take pictures like an arsonist at their fire.  They then post it online for the accolades of their subculture peers.  They don't care about me or my property.  And they never will... until one gets shot in one of my alleys.  That would be a farking shame.


This is sh*t and you should be able to legally shoot the dickwads as long as you can videotape them in the act:
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This is awesome and brightens up a neighborhood:
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Do you not make a distinction between the two?
 
Al!
2013-10-17 08:25:45 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: Al!: dehehn: ArcadianRefugee: His art was an advert for him.

His art is not an advert for him, it's an advert for his ideas, like all art.  And he has interesting ideas that make people think about the world differently, the best kind of art.

He's well aware it's illegal, and no one is disputing that he should be tried for his crimes if he's caught.  But that doesn't mean we're going to root for the authorities trying to catch him.  Most people these days would be thrilled to have his art on their building, and it would probably raise the value.  If the city wiped a Banksy off my building I would sue them for vandalism.

We get it, you don't like art or beauty or people who go beyond cultural norms to make a point and have an impact.  I'm sure you make a fine accountant and bore your wife to death.

You've been fooled.  If you don't believe it is an advert for Banksy, then what you believe is wrong.  I love art, but what he does is sensationalism.  He's not decrying the very machine that has made him very, very wealthy.  He's supporting it, and laughing all the way to the bank because hipsters and pseudo-hipsters like yourself think he's edgy and cool.  He isn't.  Van Gogh and Pollock are (were?) edgy and cool.  Banksy is advertising for people who hate advertising.  He works in advertising, and not through the murals you see in the news.  He literally sells his work to major corporations.  Look up the Bogside Artists if you want to see graffiti that portrays a social message.  Look up Banksy if you want to see someone who had made millions pretending to be someone he's not.

You don't know many artists, do you? Most are shameless self-promoters and would kill their mother if it meant someone would pay attention to their work. I don't say this as an insult, just an observation made by an art lover. Art is the ultimate exercise in self-promotion, it has to be.


I know lots of artists.  What I was pointing out was the fallacy that Banksy is some anti-corporate figurehead for societal change.  He's not.  He's a millionaire urbanite who does work for major corporations in order to line his pocket, then furthers his fame through his "anonymous" artwork by pretending to hate those corporations.  He's done work for Fox, Nickelodeon and numerous record labels and major musicians.  Sure, he's an artist, but there's nothing special about his art.  He's more of a corporate shill than any person or entity that I can think of.
 
2013-10-17 08:25:53 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: brainiac-dumdum: lol, I can see that vein throbbing all the way in Seattle

And when you grow up and live in a big boy house when someone farks with it you'll get that vein too.

/or you'll keep going to band practice well into your 50's and rent from someone like me.


I'm 37 and live in the densest neighborhood in Seattle, I'm familiar with tagging. It's an eyesore, I agree, but you're going to give yourself a stroke raging over the behavior of others. Graffiti is as old as humanity and will continue as long as we do. Sometimes acceptance is the best route.
 
2013-10-17 08:27:08 PM  

Al!: brainiac-dumdum: Al!: dehehn: ArcadianRefugee: His art was an advert for him.

His art is not an advert for him, it's an advert for his ideas, like all art.  And he has interesting ideas that make people think about the world differently, the best kind of art.

He's well aware it's illegal, and no one is disputing that he should be tried for his crimes if he's caught.  But that doesn't mean we're going to root for the authorities trying to catch him.  Most people these days would be thrilled to have his art on their building, and it would probably raise the value.  If the city wiped a Banksy off my building I would sue them for vandalism.

We get it, you don't like art or beauty or people who go beyond cultural norms to make a point and have an impact.  I'm sure you make a fine accountant and bore your wife to death.

You've been fooled.  If you don't believe it is an advert for Banksy, then what you believe is wrong.  I love art, but what he does is sensationalism.  He's not decrying the very machine that has made him very, very wealthy.  He's supporting it, and laughing all the way to the bank because hipsters and pseudo-hipsters like yourself think he's edgy and cool.  He isn't.  Van Gogh and Pollock are (were?) edgy and cool.  Banksy is advertising for people who hate advertising.  He works in advertising, and not through the murals you see in the news.  He literally sells his work to major corporations.  Look up the Bogside Artists if you want to see graffiti that portrays a social message.  Look up Banksy if you want to see someone who had made millions pretending to be someone he's not.

You don't know many artists, do you? Most are shameless self-promoters and would kill their mother if it meant someone would pay attention to their work. I don't say this as an insult, just an observation made by an art lover. Art is the ultimate exercise in self-promotion, it has to be.

I know lots of artists.  What I was pointing out was the fallacy that Banksy is some ant ...


Art and money are not mutually exclusive. I'm more or less apathetic about Banksy, but I see nothing wrong with an artist making money.
 
2013-10-17 08:34:37 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: I'm taking it out on these little farks every chance I get.

Giant Clown Shoe: I don't give a rat's ass if what I'm doing is "right".

Giant Clown Shoe: I hope they all fall. I'm deadly serious.

Giant Clown Shoe: until one gets shot in one of my alleys. That would be a farking shame.

Giant Clown Shoe: How much would have to be stolen from you before you were willing to defend your property by taking a life?

Giant Clown Shoe: Under all the the tributes to the now dead "werm" in Chicago people have been adding things like "had a small cock", "liked it in the ass" and "got what he deserved". It warms my heart to see others in the fight the way the transformer warmed his now dead body

Giant Clown Shoe: I'm not claiming any moral high ground... fark that. I'm ready to get in the farking gutter.



Are... Are you a murderer?

/halp. I think we need an adult or a moderator in here or something.
 
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