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(The Raw Story)   Gov. Rick Perry now urging people to sign on to Obamacare   (rawstory.com) divider line 34
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2013-10-17 04:37:46 PM  
I like big butts
 
2013-10-17 04:39:08 PM  
"That is a criminal act," Perry continued. "From my perspective, to put that type of burden on them - to mortgage their future like that. America cannot stand that."

So it's a criminal act but he is ok in helping the "criminal act"?
 
2013-10-17 04:39:15 PM  
Done in one?
 
2013-10-17 04:39:38 PM  
blog.aparicio.org
 
2013-10-17 04:42:53 PM  

Corvus: "That is a criminal act," Perry continued. "From my perspective, to put that type of burden on them - to mortgage their future like that. America cannot stand that."

So it's a criminal act but he is ok in helping the "criminal act"?


Right, we all know that ending up with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills places no burden on anyone, and definitely doesn't "mortgage" anyone's future. Paying a small amount a month, and getting help to do that? It's the end of everything.
 
2013-10-17 04:44:42 PM  
[thatsthejoke.jpg]? Support something you recently didn't support, familiar tactic.
 
2013-10-17 04:45:23 PM  
Maybe he and Jan Brewer can start a club:

Republican Governors for Obamacare
 
2013-10-17 04:49:22 PM  

qorkfiend: Corvus: "That is a criminal act," Perry continued. "From my perspective, to put that type of burden on them - to mortgage their future like that. America cannot stand that."

So it's a criminal act but he is ok in helping the "criminal act"?

Right, we all know that ending up with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills places no burden on anyone, and definitely doesn't "mortgage" anyone's future. Paying a small amount a month, and getting help to do that? It's the end of everything.


Because these are the kind of morons who are absolutely sure they're gonna hit the lottery any day now, but they'll never get sick.
 
2013-10-17 04:51:22 PM  
I think Walker and Rick Scott have a bet going to see who can wreck their state more in 4 years.

Hard to say who is winning so far.
 
2013-10-17 04:52:14 PM  
 

wesmon: I think Walker and Rick Scott have a bet going to see who can wreck their state more in 4 years.

Hard to say who is winning so far.



Ehh, wrong thread.
 
2013-10-17 05:13:43 PM  
Add him to the list!
 
2013-10-17 05:15:56 PM  
Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.
 
2013-10-17 05:28:12 PM  
Given that each new user is like a new packet in a denial-of-service attack, he's probably just doing his part to crash the system.
 
2013-10-17 05:29:35 PM  

wesmon: I think Walker and Rick Scott have a bet going to see who can wreck their state more in 4 years.

Hard to say who is winning so far.


Illinois.
 
2013-10-17 05:51:02 PM  

Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.


Actually, it's the opposite.  The state program is a high risk pool, aka people with pre-existing conditions.  Each state can determine what it's going to do with their high risk pool insurance, if they have it, and Texas decided to eliminate their high risk pool and let the people in it buy insurance through the exchange, as they can no longer be denied.  The state could choose to keep it's high risk pool as is if they wanted too.
 
2013-10-17 05:56:05 PM  

Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.


Please point out how something can be "felonious" and "criminal" while being "the law."
 
2013-10-17 06:01:30 PM  
According to Rick Perry, this might be conspiracy to commit a felony.

But I bet that was more than two things, so maybe he forgot.
 
2013-10-17 06:01:44 PM  

Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.


Huh?

The article makes it clear the ACA exchange is going to give people better coverage for less. It wouldn't be illegal for the state run program to continue. It was DESIGNED for those with pre-exiting conditions. That's part of the "high risk". It just would lose out to better run, more cost effective plans, so why spend state money on the program?

That's what it comes down to. The ACA is cheaper and offers better coverage than the state plan. It's a FISCAL WIN for the state.
 
2013-10-17 06:17:53 PM  

jjorsett: Given that each new user is like a new packet in a denial-of-service attack, he's probably just doing his part to crash the system.


jjorsett: wesmon: I think Walker and Rick Scott have a bet going to see who can wreck their state more in 4 years.

Hard to say who is winning so far.

Illinois.


Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.


Wonderful.  I come into the thread, and I see three posts in road-cone "high visibility to protect them from themselves" orange.  I can always count on my road-cone orange list to increase the level of idiocy, regardless of the thread.
 
2013-10-17 07:13:36 PM  

mediablitz: Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.

Huh?

The article makes it clear the ACA exchange is going to give people better coverage for less. It wouldn't be illegal for the state run program to continue. It was DESIGNED for those with pre-exiting conditions. That's part of the "high risk". It just would lose out to better run, more cost effective plans, so why spend state money on the program?

That's what it comes down to. The ACA is cheaper and offers better coverage than the state plan. It's a FISCAL WIN for the state.



This should be repeated to Rafael "Teddy" Cruz and Rick "good hair" Perry as often as possible!
 
2013-10-17 07:23:50 PM  

sdd2000: mediablitz: Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.

Huh?

The article makes it clear the ACA exchange is going to give people better coverage for less. It wouldn't be illegal for the state run program to continue. It was DESIGNED for those with pre-exiting conditions. That's part of the "high risk". It just would lose out to better run, more cost effective plans, so why spend state money on the program?

That's what it comes down to. The ACA is cheaper and offers better coverage than the state plan. It's a FISCAL WIN for the state.


This should be repeated to Rafael "Teddy" Cruz and Rick "good hair" Perry as often as possible!


and he just wants to avoid the embarrassment of having people jump ship from the state plan to Obamacare.
 
2013-10-17 07:24:13 PM  
RINO!
 
2013-10-17 07:55:58 PM  

Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.


Out of curiosity, are you deliberately lying or are you just ignorant?
 
2013-10-17 09:58:05 PM  
Good news Democrats, maybe this will finally push Texas to the other side of this thing:

thecentristword.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-17 10:06:38 PM  

serial_crusher: Good news Democrats, maybe this will finally push Texas to the other side of this thing:

[thecentristword.files.wordpress.com image 800x588]


Pssst. Next time don't use one from 2005. There are more recent ones.
 
2013-10-17 10:11:57 PM  

grumpfuff: serial_crusher: Good news Democrats, maybe this will finally push Texas to the other side of this thing:

[thecentristword.files.wordpress.com image 800x588]

Pssst. Next time don't use one from 2005. There are more recent ones.


d'oh. did we already move?  I just googled "Red State Socialism" and it was a million copies of that one.  Where's the newer one?
 
2013-10-17 10:31:27 PM  

serial_crusher: grumpfuff: serial_crusher: Good news Democrats, maybe this will finally push Texas to the other side of this thing:

[thecentristword.files.wordpress.com image 800x588]

Pssst. Next time don't use one from 2005. There are more recent ones.

d'oh. did we already move?  I just googled "Red State Socialism" and it was a million copies of that one.  Where's the newer one?


Fark if I know, but I know there's one that's from 2012(I think)
 
2013-10-17 10:32:51 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: RINO!


Can we have a special RINO addendum to the LOPCATGOPATA?
 
2013-10-17 10:40:04 PM  

grumpfuff: Fark if I know, but I know there's one that's from 2012(I think)


shrug, this guy updated the red/blue status according to voting data, but kept the 2005 money numbers.  Turns out there were more blue states in a year that a Democratic president won the election they measures.  Go figure.

coyotestyle.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-17 10:43:37 PM  

serial_crusher: grumpfuff: Fark if I know, but I know there's one that's from 2012(I think)

shrug, this guy updated the red/blue status according to voting data, but kept the 2005 money numbers.  Turns out there were more blue states in a year that a Democratic president won the election they measures.  Go figure.

[coyotestyle.files.wordpress.com image 850x635]


I know for sure I've seen one that's current as of at least 2010, possibly 2012. And it was even more damning for Repubs. Sooo...take that for what you will.
 
2013-10-17 11:53:38 PM  

jjorsett: Given that each new user is like a new packet in a denial-of-service attack, he's probably just doing his part to crash the system

.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-18 12:16:04 AM  
Actually, this is probably a pretty shrewd political move. The longer the ACA stays in place, the more people will sign up and therefore the larger and more balanced the risk pool. If you can overwhelm it at the early stages with high risk insured you may be able to kill it. So Texas puts it's high risk pool straight into the exchange and then promptly forgets to advertise it anywhere else. It will drive the costs up, highlighting the failure of the legislation while simultaneously putting pressure on the federal budget instead of the state budget.

If I was a GOP strategist from TX that sounds like a win for me.
 
2013-10-18 02:41:36 AM  

St Gertrude of Nivelles: Actually, this is probably a pretty shrewd political move. The longer the ACA stays in place, the more people will sign up and therefore the larger and more balanced the risk pool. If you can overwhelm it at the early stages with high risk insured you may be able to kill it. So Texas puts it's high risk pool straight into the exchange and then promptly forgets to advertise it anywhere else. It will drive the costs up, highlighting the failure of the legislation while simultaneously putting pressure on the federal budget instead of the state budget.

If I was a GOP strategist from TX that sounds like a win for me.


Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-10-18 12:03:18 PM  

Hobodeluxe: sdd2000: mediablitz: Jodeo: Reads headline - disappointed.
Reads article - I see what the gov did there:

"The state has deemed the high-risk pool obsolete," the website now says, "as the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance companies participating in the federal marketplace from denying coverage to Texans with pre-existing conditions."

In other words, Obamacare left the state's program, as-is, illegal. They would either have to make an expensive program more expensive and redundant, or do away with it. He chose the latter, but that doesn't somehow change his stance on ACA. It's not just a felonious, criminal idea, it's the law.

Huh?

The article makes it clear the ACA exchange is going to give people better coverage for less. It wouldn't be illegal for the state run program to continue. It was DESIGNED for those with pre-exiting conditions. That's part of the "high risk". It just would lose out to better run, more cost effective plans, so why spend state money on the program?

That's what it comes down to. The ACA is cheaper and offers better coverage than the state plan. It's a FISCAL WIN for the state.


This should be repeated to Rafael "Teddy" Cruz and Rick "good hair" Perry as often as possible!

and he just wants to avoid the embarrassment of having people jump ship from the state plan to Obamacare.


Notice Jodeo never came back to:

1. Defend his claim
2. Admit he was wrong

A simple "oops. guess I read that wrong" is too much to ask for people who just WANT to believe the ACA is evil..
 
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