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(Patheos)   Love the sinner, hate the sin, and if your religious school is taxpayer-funded make the gay students stand up and apologize during an assembly before expelling them   (patheos.com) divider line 82
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2013-10-17 04:21:55 PM
Why does a religious school get tax dollars?
 
2013-10-17 04:22:48 PM
Jesus would smack your asses raw you judgmental asstards.
 
2013-10-17 04:23:20 PM
please don't be the South, please don't be the South

*checks article*

Oh for the love of....can you bigots just prove me wrong once?
 
2013-10-17 04:23:57 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:24:19 PM

Fart_Machine: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:24:41 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:25:21 PM

deeproy: sugardave: Fart_Machine: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:25:46 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:25:59 PM
Private schools can throw out and child they deem a problem so whenever you see a conservative going on and on about how much better private schools are just laugh in their face. If you can throw out every even remotely disruptive child you obviously can create a superior learning environment. These kids then go to public school who are required to take them.  These bigot schools are just using that freedom in a different way.
 
2013-10-17 04:26:13 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:26:34 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


I 'think' the idea is that these schools give scholarships, so that kids who couldn't normally afford to go to them are able to go. The government rewards them for this by covering at least part of the scholarship. I didn't even know the plan existed until this article, but I'd say that it was an example of something that sounded good on paper, but actually has no practical application.
 
2013-10-17 04:27:30 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


after creating the universe and everything in it, god fell on hard times
 
2013-10-17 04:27:32 PM

Shadow Blasko: Jesus would smack your asses raw


That sounds kinda gay.
 
2013-10-17 04:27:41 PM

wooden_badger: deeproy: sugardave: Fart_Machine: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:27:55 PM

wooden_badger: deeproy: sugardave: Fart_Machine: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

 
2013-10-17 04:28:17 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


Vouchers
 
2013-10-17 04:28:42 PM

Mikey1969: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

I 'think' the idea is that these schools give scholarships, so that kids who couldn't normally afford to go to them are able to go. The government rewards them for this by covering at least part of the scholarship. I didn't even know the plan existed until this article, but I'd say that it was an example of something that sounded good on paper, but actually has no practical application.


You would have assumed however, that "here's a taxpayer scholarship to pay for a kid's classes" would have included a "don't be an asshole" clause.
 
2013-10-17 04:28:50 PM
But don't you dare call them bigots.

/or the people who pass laws saying this is OK
//or the people who vote for those people
///you're the real bigot for thinking they're bigots
 
2013-10-17 04:29:05 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


"Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws - sometimes referred to as "neovouchers" - to grant dollar-for-dollar tax credits to people who donate money to provide children with scholarships to private schools. In theory, such a plan has the potential to help a lot of students, but in practice, especially in deeply religious places like Georgia, it has also meant that millions of dollars have been redirected from public funds to privately run Student Scholarship Organizations, which can then funnel the money to schools with strict anti-gay policies. Because the money goes straight to the SSO and never actually enters the public coffers, it's free and clear of being considered a "public fund" - allowing church and state to technically be kept separate. All of which may sound fishy, but consider this: It's fully legal because the laws make it so. And, as the school-choice movement gains ground, it's certain that other states will soon pass similar legislation.

It's unlikely, however, that any of these laws will be as freewheeling as Georgia's, where conservative Christian schools constitute the largest segment of private schools in the state. Georgia House Bill 1133, which introduced the Qualified Education Expense Tax Credit, is the only SSO legislation in the country that was formulated without requiring organizations to take family income into account when choosing who will receive a scholarship, nor does it keep track of who gets them. A 2011 amendment makes it a criminal offense to disclose who donates SSO money, how much they donate, or which schools receive these donations, making any knowledge about where the money goes so shrouded in mystery that the Society of Professional Journalists awarded HB 1133 the Black Hole Award, for "the most heinous violations of the public's right to know."

Nevertheless, after the law went into effect, more than $230 million in tax credits have been awarded to taxpayers in Georgia who have made SSO donations. And since at least 115 private schools affiliated with SSOs in the state have explicit anti-gay policies or belong to associations that condemn homosexuality, it's clear that much of that money has gone to private schools that consider homosexuality not only a sin but also a perversion from which the rest of their students must be shielded. Meanwhile, two of the seven agencies that grant private schools accreditation promote an anti-gay sentiment."

- Rolling Stone

Welcome to America, where the laws are made up and the separation of church and state doesn't matter.
 
2013-10-17 04:29:40 PM
If there is a god, he's an asshole. Look at all the monsters he rewards with power.
 
2013-10-17 04:29:47 PM
 
2013-10-17 04:30:33 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.
 
2013-10-17 04:30:49 PM

miss diminutive: please don't be the South, please don't be the South

*checks article*

Oh for the love of....can you bigots just prove me wrong once?


South = bigots is so common knowledge that even Ric Romero knows it's not worth pointing out.
 
2013-10-17 04:30:54 PM
Can we please stop letting religions get an exemption from civil rights laws?
 
2013-10-17 04:31:04 PM
www.millionaireplayboy.com
 
2013-10-17 04:31:35 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws - sometimes referred to as "neovouchers" - to grant dollar-for-dollar tax credits to people who donate money to provide children with scholarships to private schools.


Makes me wonder if the people pushing this twirl their mustache...
 
2013-10-17 04:32:04 PM
Sometimes I wish I was gay just so I could be on the opposite team from these dickheads, then I remember I already am because I get upset over this kind of crap.
 
2013-10-17 04:32:20 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


The lord works in mysterious ways
 
2013-10-17 04:33:44 PM

Karac: You would have assumed however, that "here's a taxpayer scholarship to pay for a kid's classes" would have included a "don't be an asshole" clause.


Sure would have been nice... This has happened before(The 'No Government Monies for Assholes' clause), how the Hell did it get left out this time? I would think it would be the first part crafted. Someone purposely left it out and saw it as a 'Win', I'm sure. There's no way this is an accident.
 
2013-10-17 04:33:45 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws


I'm pleasantly surprised to see that Texas is not on that list.
 
2013-10-17 04:33:47 PM

Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.


Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.
 
2013-10-17 04:34:39 PM
Hello, lawsuit.
 
2013-10-17 04:36:49 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

"Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws - sometimes referred to as "neovouchers" - to grant dollar-for-dollar tax credits to people who donate money to provide children with scholarships to private schools. In theory, such a plan has the potential to help a lot of students, but in practice, especially in deeply religious places like Georgia, it has also meant that millions of dollars have been redirected from public funds to privately run Student Scholarship Organizations, which can then funnel the money to schools with strict anti-gay policies. Because the money goes straight to the SSO and never actually enters the public coffers, it's free and clear of being considered a "public fund" - allowing church and state to technically be kept separate. All of which may sound fishy, but consider this: It's fully legal because the laws make it so. And, as the school-choice movement gains ground, it's certain that other states will soon pass similar legislation.

It's unlikely, however, that any of these laws will be as freewheeling as Georgia's, where conservative Christian schools constitute the largest segment of private schools in the state. Georgia House Bill 1133, which introduced the Qualified Education Expense Tax Credit, is the only SSO legislation in the country that was formulated without requiring organizations to take family income into account when choosing who will receive a scholarship, nor does it keep track of who gets them. A 2011 amendment makes it a criminal offense to disclose who donates SSO money, how much they donate, or which schools receive these donations, making any knowledge about where the money goes so shrouded in mystery that the Society of Professional Journalists awarded HB 1133 the Black Hole Award, for "the most heinous violations of ...


I think that's usually termed "money laundering".  I wonder what the IRS thinks about those arrangements?
 
2013-10-17 04:38:02 PM

qorkfiend: Hello, lawsuit.


It's still legal to be a Christian in America. Despite what Stalin thinks.
 
2013-10-17 04:38:29 PM
They didn't lose their virginity. They didn't advocate for gay marriage at school. Their only crime was "being gay."

So thought crime?
 
2013-10-17 04:40:41 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.

Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.


And as soon as an atheist school even opens up, the fundies will cut their nose off to spite their faces by outlawing public money going to private schools.

Atheists get cracking.
 
2013-10-17 04:41:41 PM

thurstonxhowell: qorkfiend: Hello, lawsuit.

It's still legal to be a Christian in America. Despite what Stalin thinks.


As long as Christian means "terrible bigot", that's a relevant statement to this school.
 
2013-10-17 04:41:51 PM

sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?


Because Thomas Jefferson was a secret muslim
 
2013-10-17 04:42:15 PM
And an all Gay school would it be burned down before it even opened or would there be a bomb set off after if opened.
 
2013-10-17 04:42:25 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.

Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.


Except that usually when legislators in a state decide to create a voucher program, somebody points out that a school the legislators hate would qualify for vouchers, and they either recant their position on vouchers while insulting an entire religion or try to prevent those schools from collecting those vouchers.
 
2013-10-17 04:43:46 PM

miss diminutive: please don't be the South, please don't be the South

*checks article*

Oh for the love of....can you bigots just prove me wrong once?


I dunno. Your Muslim rec center in lower Manhattan kerfuffle was entertaining

Standing by for the "that's different" posts
 
2013-10-17 04:44:43 PM

scottydoesntknow: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws

I'm pleasantly surprised to see that Texas is not on that list.


Education? In Texas?
 
2013-10-17 04:44:49 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.

Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.


You forget that separate is inherently unequal.
 
2013-10-17 04:46:30 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

"Georgia, along with 11 other states (Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida, Rhode Island, Iowa, Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and, most recently, Alabama), has adopted laws - sometimes referred to as "neovouchers" - to grant dollar-for-dollar tax credits to people who donate money to provide children with scholarships to private schools. In theory, such a plan has the potential to help a lot of students, but in practice, especially in deeply religious places like Georgia, it has also meant that millions of dollars have been redirected from public funds to privately run Student Scholarship Organizations, which can then funnel the money to schools with strict anti-gay policies. Because the money goes straight to the SSO and never actually enters the public coffers, it's free and clear of being considered a "public fund" - allowing church and state to technically be kept separate. All of which may sound fishy, but consider this: It's fully legal because the laws make it so. And, as the school-choice movement gains ground, it's certain that other states will soon pass similar legislation.

It's unlikely, however, that any of these laws will be as freewheeling as Georgia's, where conservative Christian schools constitute the largest segment of private schools in the state. Georgia House Bill 1133, which introduced the Qualified Education Expense Tax Credit, is the only SSO legislation in the country that was formulated without requiring organizations to take family income into account when choosing who will receive a scholarship, nor does it keep track of who gets them. A 2011 amendment makes it a criminal offense to disclose who donates SSO money, how much they donate, or which schools receive these donations, making any knowledge about where the money goes so shrouded in mystery that the Society of Professional Journalists awarded HB 1133 the Black Hole Award, for "the most heinous violations of ...


Jesus
 
2013-10-17 04:46:37 PM

spongeboob: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.

Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.

And as soon as an atheist school even opens up, the fundies will cut their nose off to spite their faces by outlawing public money going to private schools.

Atheists get cracking.


Nah, they know there aren't enough atheists out there who care so little about their kids education that they would send them to what is basically basketball/football camp with a daily 2 minutes of hate against Christians.

IIRC in GA (may have been LA or TN) a Muslim school tried to get in on the voucher action but people got rather upset about it. Last I heard the state was trying to come to some sort of agreement with the school that would avoid them being in the voucher program but give them something so they wouldn't sue.
 
2013-10-17 04:48:31 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Target Builder: sugardave: Why does a religious school get tax dollars?

Scalia (IIRC) justified his ruling on tax credits going to private religious schools by saying it was the parent's money coming back to them, so it was OK if they spent it on religious education.

Which is fine with me.  An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment, and the only people complaining are the ones who don't understand that fact.


Heh. Louisiana legislators freaked the fark out when a muslim school tried using the vouchers

Dont recall how that ended

Too lazy for the googles
 
2013-10-17 04:49:58 PM

thurstonxhowell: qorkfiend: Hello, lawsuit.

It's still legal to be a Christian in America. Despite what Stalin thinks.


Good thing they're not being sued for being Christian.
 
2013-10-17 04:50:06 PM

TV's Vinnie: If there is a god, he's an asshole. Look at all the monsters he rewards with power.


To be fair, I don't think most of these operations have anything to do with God. They just call themselves "Christians" to get out of paying taxes.
 
2013-10-17 04:50:51 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: An all atheist school, or an all gay school can take use the same law, so there's really no preferential treatment



Practically speaking, though, would one of those schools be allowed to not burn down in Georgia?
 
2013-10-17 04:51:34 PM
How the unholy f*ck did they pull that shiat off without CPS showing up?
 
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