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(Hudson Valley Reporter)   A natural gas pipeline, a megawatt power line, and a nuclear power plant all converge along a river upstream from New York City. What could possibly go wrong?   (hudsonvalleyreporter.com) divider line 86
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2013-10-17 12:59:52 PM
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2013-10-17 01:00:01 PM
Yes, let's NOT have high-power lines coming off of power plants.

What is this headline even trying to say?  2 pieces of infrastructure coexist?  Oh no! Are the roads there too?
 
2013-10-17 01:00:35 PM
Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.
 
2013-10-17 01:01:15 PM
Nobody brought marshmallows?
 
2013-10-17 01:02:07 PM
That "sploosh" you just heard was Michael Bay...
 
2013-10-17 01:02:23 PM
I spilled my beer?
 
2013-10-17 01:03:11 PM
Didn't Calvin and Hobbes already cover this?
 
2013-10-17 01:05:25 PM
I was going to post something, but then I got distracted.  Darkwing Duck was my jam when I was a kid.  I loved that show.
 
2013-10-17 01:06:40 PM

skozlaw: Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.


Yeah, that probably poses the single highest risk, but its coexistence with a nuke plant doesn't pose any additional risk.  Subby is kinda dumb.
 
2013-10-17 01:06:52 PM
farking Obama.
 
2013-10-17 01:07:14 PM

tommyl66: Didn't Calvin and Hobbes already cover this?


Came for this, did it myself.

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2013-10-17 01:08:31 PM
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Explosions?
 
2013-10-17 01:09:02 PM
Just one megawatt power line?  They're going to have trouble doing something with the gigawatt coming out of that nuclear plant, then.
 
2013-10-17 01:09:45 PM

ikanreed: Yes, let's NOT have high-power lines coming off of power plants.


But it is a MEGAWATT POWERLINE!!!!  MEGAWATTTTTTTT!!!!leleventy11.

It is apparently so bad that it crashs every website that dares to expose this evil conjunciton of infrastructure.
 
2013-10-17 01:09:45 PM
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Hopefully everything!
 
2013-10-17 01:12:40 PM
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2013-10-17 01:12:50 PM

skozlaw: Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.




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2013-10-17 01:13:16 PM

skozlaw: I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.


You likely have one buried out in the street outside your residence.  Gas lines are just as common as water and sewer lines.  What do you think that most folks heat thier house and water with?  Cow farts?
 
2013-10-17 01:13:39 PM
I live in Rockland County, which is just across the Hudson River from Westchester.

These are not the only projects being proposed in this area. There's also a desalinization plant proposed downstream from the Indian Point nuclear power plant, in addition to at least 2 smaller scale projects (close together) that people are up in arms about. One is a new Walmart (hell no) and one is the destruction of a farm property to build housing. If you want specifics, it's the Patrick Farms project.

The only successful project I think that has happened in Rockland recently is the overhaul at the Shops of Nanuet. The Palisades Center mall was put up way too fast, and resulted in the flooding of roads near there which needed a ton of money to fix.

Of course, a lot of the bad/failed projects in Rockland County can be attributed to bad government. Christopher St. Lawrence is the worst offender, he built Provident Bank Ballpark (where the AA Rockland Boulders play baseball) using shady tactics. I believe 71% of the voters in the district of Ramapo rejected building it.

In addition to building an unwanted building of that scale, CSL still hasn't released the accounting data for 2012 yet. It was due in March. His offices at Ramapo Town Hall got raided in May by the FBI, mostly because he didn't release the data, and partly because he is under investigation for other crap.

If you all thought politics in New York City were bad, the Hudson Valley is an absolute cesspool with filthy no good pieces of shiat like Christopher St. Lawrence.

Anyway, we Rocklanders are OK with building stuff as long as it preserves the beauty of our homes and the environment. If it doesn't, the GFY.
 
2013-10-17 01:14:20 PM
Great.  Just a couple miles from us.  In laws live right on the river there.
 
2013-10-17 01:14:25 PM
The powerplant and pipeline are over a mile apart.

If something big enough happens at one to affect the other, you're not really going to care that the other one is there.  Because its gonna be really big on its own.
 
2013-10-17 01:14:55 PM

hasty ambush: skozlaw: Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.

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That is just the transmission mainlines. If you wanted to add in the distribution lines, that map would be pretty much covered.
 
2013-10-17 01:14:57 PM
Will somebody please immanentize the eschaton? I've been waiting a lifetime and the latest political antics are the closest it's come this century.
 
2013-10-17 01:16:27 PM

hasty ambush: data-informed.com


That's the final straw!  Now I'll never move to Oklahoma City.
 
2013-10-17 01:16:46 PM
Holy shiat! I have a natural gas pipeline and high voltage power lines running in the alleyway behind my house. WE'RE ALL GUNNA DIE!!!
 
2013-10-17 01:24:32 PM
In all seriousness, the hysteria that this type of artilce tries to encite is just more reason why it is so expensive and diffuclut to get any infrastructure built in this country.  Combine the power of the NIMBYs, enviros, 'NO PORK' and 'NO NEW TAXES' crowd and it is no wonder why things are falling apart and the ASCE gives us Ds on all of our infrastrucutre.
 
2013-10-17 01:24:36 PM

skozlaw: Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.


Why ? Cheapest way to heat your home by far.
 
2013-10-17 01:26:12 PM
Worst case scenario:

The pipeline ruptures, killing a few hundred people and opening up a 1000' crater.  This trips the seismic activity alarms at Indian Point, causing Unit 3 to shutdown.  A fragment of the pipeline hits a transmission line, ripping down the tower which causes a blackout to cascade through the region.  Indian Point operators violated every single safety regulation and had all backup power systems for the unit offline for maintenance so they can't run the emergency cooling pumps.  Fortunately, Unit 2's license was not renewed so they were able to use those generators with a quick cable run.  Nothing major happens other than a slightly low water level and higher than normal temperature and pressure, but it doesn't trigger any emergency release valves.  Due to the brief temperature excursion they have to do a complete inspection of the reactor, cooling systems, heat exchanger and also do a complete change out of the fuel.  This is a very expensive operation but was necessary for the upcoming license renewal.  Unfortunately this indicated to the NRC that the plant operator should not be trusted with a nuclear power plant and it is permanently shutdown.  1200 jobs are lost and the community is devastated.  Even worse, Entergy is forced out of the nuclear power business and their stock price takes a hit, causing the pensions of every single current and former Entergy employee to evaporate overnight.
 
2013-10-17 01:26:57 PM

HeadLever: skozlaw: I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.

You likely have one buried out in the street outside your residence.  Gas lines are just as common as water and sewer lines.  What do you think that most folks heat thier house and water with?  Cow farts?


You think that most people have a 42" gas pipeline outside their house?
 
2013-10-17 01:30:01 PM

joeflood: Worst case scenario:


Worst case scenario: The natural gas pipeline comes alive (ala Ghostbusters) and decides to dominate the people of earth (ala Pacific Rim) but realizes that it unfortunately cannot move. It simmers with hatred for 30 years until the line is decommissioned.
 
2013-10-17 01:30:03 PM

HeadLever: You likely have one buried out in the street outside your residence.


kindms: Why ? Cheapest way to heat your home by far.


You know what I meant, don't be intentionally obtuse.
 
2013-10-17 01:30:57 PM

kindms: skozlaw: Lots of things could go wrong.

Probably nothing will though. Not sure why that's scary. Unless you mean the pipeline. I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.

Why ? Cheapest way to heat your home by far.


Yea I hated when my heating bill went from $300 a month in winter to $125 when I switch from oil to gas.
 
2013-10-17 01:30:57 PM

Fubini: You think that most people have a 42" gas pipeline outside their house?


No - do you have reading comprehension issues?  That was not the point I was responding to.  Please read it again.
 
2013-10-17 01:31:53 PM
oopsy ... nice planning there lou.
 
2013-10-17 01:32:20 PM
What could possibly go wrong

Lack of crowd control from all the folks skulking about hoping to pick up the stray superpower from the convergence?
 
2013-10-17 01:33:15 PM

skozlaw: You know what I meant, don't be intentionally obtuse.


The only thing that we know what you meant is from what you actually wrote in your post, "I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline."

That is pretty straightforward. If you meant something else, you should have said something else.
 
2013-10-17 01:33:32 PM
A megawatt?  The whole thing? Good God we are all going to die. Indina Point runs closer to 1400 megawatts.
 
2013-10-17 01:37:27 PM
We have Niagara Falls in our backyards, imagine that blowing up.
 
2013-10-17 01:39:28 PM
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2013-10-17 01:41:59 PM

HeadLever: In all seriousness, the hysteria that this type of artilce tries to encite is just more reason why it is so expensive and diffuclut to get any infrastructure built in this country.  Combine the power of the NIMBYs, enviros, 'NO PORK' and 'NO NEW TAXES' crowd and it is no wonder why things are falling apart and the ASCE gives us Ds on all of our infrastrucutre.


Pretty much. It reminds me of all the mysterious sicknesses people claim when windmills are put up.

Alternate 1: Hysteria anyone mentions large amounts of gas, electricity, or mentions "chemicals" at all.

Alternate 2: No brown-outs, clean water, and clean air.
 
2013-10-17 01:44:07 PM

HeadLever: skozlaw: You know what I meant, don't be intentionally obtuse.

The only thing that we know...

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you probably shouldn't speak for anyone else in this thread.

 
2013-10-17 01:48:15 PM

skozlaw: I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you probably shouldn't speak for anyone else in this thread.


And might I suggest that you shouldn't write something and then pretend that is not at all what you meant.
 
2013-10-17 01:52:38 PM

Deep Contact: We have Niagara Falls in our backyards, imagine that blowing up.


Now that's one for Michael Bay to tackle.
 
2013-10-17 01:52:48 PM
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Let's strike at their non-shiny metal techologicaly advanced asses.
 
2013-10-17 01:56:39 PM

HeadLever: And might I suggest that you shouldn't write something and then pretend that is not at all what you meant.


I know you think you're being real clever, but you're not. I didn't write "a" pipeline, I wrote "the" pipeline. "The" pipeline is the one mentioned by the submitter, which is the one from TFA, which is a massive long-distance trunk pipeline and is completely unlike the ones under the streets in front of almost anyone's house.

Now are we done here or are you going to continuing clinging to your utterly failed attempt at pedantry like a dingleberry on an ape's ass?
 
2013-10-17 02:01:36 PM
The largest pipeline leak in US history was just discovered on some dude's farm in the midwest. It is not getting a lot of play as there are so many folks who want the Keystone pipeline to get approved.
 
2013-10-17 02:11:36 PM

skozlaw: I didn't write "a" pipeline, I wrote "the" pipeline.

skozlaw: I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.


Saywat now? You understand that we can look back to your earlier post and see what you actually wrote, correct?
 
2013-10-17 02:12:58 PM
They just did a BIG natural gas line upgrade near us, here in Florida, a year and a half ago. Now, you can't even tell it was ever done.

How dare someone upgrade our crumbling infrastructure!
 
2013-10-17 02:13:31 PM

skozlaw: The" pipeline is the one mentioned by the submitter, which is the one from TFA, which is a massive long-distance trunk pipeline and is completely unlike the ones under the streets in front of almost anyone's house.


Oh, so you are just a standard NIMBY instead of a dumbass NIMBY.  Gotcha.
 
2013-10-17 02:19:23 PM

HeadLever: skozlaw: I didn't write "a" pipeline, I wrote "the" pipeline.

skozlaw: I, personally, would rather not live anywhere near a NG pipeline.

Saywat now? You understand that we can look back to your earlier post and see what you actually wrote, correct?


You're really going to be the dingleberry, aren't you? You're really going to make me sit here and explain to you how indefinite articles work, aren't you?
 
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